Topic: Way to get round the 5 post limit... - page 20. (Read 10381 times)
5 post is ok, but the 4 hours of staring is a bit too much
5 Posts is nothing. But four hours is a long wait.
Do the 4 hours count even if you are afk all the time?
5 Posts is nothing. But four hours is a long wait.
Do the 4 hours count even if you are afk all the time?
The 5-post limit isn't too hard. You just have to not care about the quality of what you say (counterproductive conditioning?).
What's a killer is clicking on pages to keep the total-time-logged odometer going. I've put at least a few hours reading on bitcointalk recently, but I didn't know I should be logged in.
What's a killer is clicking on pages to keep the total-time-logged odometer going. I've put at least a few hours reading on bitcointalk recently, but I didn't know I should be logged in.
A test quiz on scams, spamming, trolling, etc?
Or a hero member must vouch for someone?
Or a hero member must vouch for someone?
if you have a way to get around it, I'd like to try it!
...it's so simple!
All you have to do is join in this thread and provide a better solution to the 5 post + time limit. If it works, it'll get implemented.
Please note, you have to fully explain why it's better than the existing system and explain how it'll work whilst being no more time intensive for Mods to implement.
Good luck everyone!
[Other newbies should feel free to discuss any solutions - pitch in, it's a community!]
All you have to do is join in this thread and provide a better solution to the 5 post + time limit. If it works, it'll get implemented.
Please note, you have to fully explain why it's better than the existing system and explain how it'll work whilst being no more time intensive for Mods to implement.
Good luck everyone!
[Other newbies should feel free to discuss any solutions - pitch in, it's a community!]
without newbie jail, this place would be spammed to hell and back. need signal not static
Post count and staring at these forums does nothing to solve the bot or spammer problem
There are other methods of stopping bots in place. This is to stop people from coming in and going to every thread and advertising something a million times and just being a general pain, they aren't going to wait 4 hours on a heap of accounts just to do that a couple of times. 
Being someone who tends to read just about everything before I add my two cents I don't mind the current setup.
The only thing I could say to make it better would be to allow new users to post on the regular board as well but limit how often they can post to say a couple times a hour that way they are still forced to do a lot of reading but if they want they can still add their two cents where they feel they are needed.
The only thing I could say to make it better would be to allow new users to post on the regular board as well but limit how often they can post to say a couple times a hour that way they are still forced to do a lot of reading but if they want they can still add their two cents where they feel they are needed.
What i should post here? +1 ? XD
for some reason, reddit is able to function without a 5-post incubation period.
5 posts seems fair to me
i agree 
Yea il just post 5 times
You had to think of a work around ... for getting five posts?
Seriously?
smh
You can't just go post 5 times?
Seriously?
smh
You can't just go post 5 times?
5 Posts is nothing. But four hours is a long wait.
the limit is perfectly fair, I still enjoy coming on the newbie section myself. Can always learn a few new things.
There's nothing wrong (nor anything especially right) with the 5 post thing. The problem is in the 4 hour restriction. Why? Here is my experience to date:
Let's say you've made your 5 posts... now you go on to a more interesting forum, and have something interesting to contribute, you go looking for the reply or quote button, but it's not there. What do you do? Say "screw it, that's right, I'm still a newb", then surf to another site. You come back the next day, thinking, ok, i'm gonna put in my time. You read a number of threads, maybe for 10 minutes or so, then you feel like you have something to contribute. But still, no quote or reply buttons. Grumble, grumble, rinse repeat. Time goes up by only 10-20 minutes a day.
I completely understand the need for some newbie vetting process - I have moderated other forums, and know the challenges mods and admins face. But the 4 hour thing is chafing my you-know-whats.
Let's say you've made your 5 posts... now you go on to a more interesting forum, and have something interesting to contribute, you go looking for the reply or quote button, but it's not there. What do you do? Say "screw it, that's right, I'm still a newb", then surf to another site. You come back the next day, thinking, ok, i'm gonna put in my time. You read a number of threads, maybe for 10 minutes or so, then you feel like you have something to contribute. But still, no quote or reply buttons. Grumble, grumble, rinse repeat. Time goes up by only 10-20 minutes a day.
I completely understand the need for some newbie vetting process - I have moderated other forums, and know the challenges mods and admins face. But the 4 hour thing is chafing my you-know-whats.
5 posts seems fair to me
At first when I noticed I could not reply to posts, I thought I missed a verification email or something. Then I found out about this 5 post + time limit thing.
It's kind of annoying, but I'm sure it cuts down on the spammers, trolls and noobs posting questions that have been answered 200 times already. So I guess if I have to troll the newb forum for a bit and do some research, then so be it.
It's kind of annoying, but I'm sure it cuts down on the spammers, trolls and noobs posting questions that have been answered 200 times already. So I guess if I have to troll the newb forum for a bit and do some research, then so be it.
So I'm an Enginner in real life, so you have to look at it from a problem perspective.
The problems you are trying to solve are (correct me if I am wrong):
1) Newbies who post worthless crap on the other subforums because they haven't taken the time to read
2) People who sign up to just spam and troll
So solutions are:
1) Some people simply don't have that much to say. At a certain limit, (say maybe 1 hour of reading?), allow newbies to take a short quiz. No more than 20 questions that tests their knowledge on bitcoins and forum policies. If they pass, they get early parole, if they fail, current restrictions apply (no retakes). This allows those people who may already have been bitcoining for some time or people who have legitimately read the announcements to get on with their life here. People like these will want to contribute to the community and aren't going to be your "What is a wallet?" guys.
2) For the first few hours, posts by newbies are moderated everywhere but the newbie forum. If they are of decent quality, they are released from newbie jail. If they are not, all pending posts are deleted and they must follow current policies. To cut down on moderator work, they are only allowed to have 4 pending posts at any one time, and if one of them is spammy/trolly, then all pending posts are deleted and they are subjected back to newbie jail (or banned, we don't want spammers and trolls around here anyways right?)
And I'm already out of jail but if you want to donate some btc my way, PM me and I'll be more than happy to give you an address
The problems you are trying to solve are (correct me if I am wrong):
1) Newbies who post worthless crap on the other subforums because they haven't taken the time to read
2) People who sign up to just spam and troll
So solutions are:
1) Some people simply don't have that much to say. At a certain limit, (say maybe 1 hour of reading?), allow newbies to take a short quiz. No more than 20 questions that tests their knowledge on bitcoins and forum policies. If they pass, they get early parole, if they fail, current restrictions apply (no retakes). This allows those people who may already have been bitcoining for some time or people who have legitimately read the announcements to get on with their life here. People like these will want to contribute to the community and aren't going to be your "What is a wallet?" guys.
2) For the first few hours, posts by newbies are moderated everywhere but the newbie forum. If they are of decent quality, they are released from newbie jail. If they are not, all pending posts are deleted and they must follow current policies. To cut down on moderator work, they are only allowed to have 4 pending posts at any one time, and if one of them is spammy/trolly, then all pending posts are deleted and they are subjected back to newbie jail (or banned, we don't want spammers and trolls around here anyways right?)
And I'm already out of jail but if you want to donate some btc my way, PM me and I'll be more than happy to give you an address
I wish that post had come from a newbie.
In that vein, I think another reason for the 5-post count is to gently change the newbie mindset:
from something like "I've got to make five stupid posts when all I want to do is make a really important post as soon as I'm out of this stupid prison. What a dumb place this is that I really really want to join. They're obviously a bunch of idiots and I demand my right to join them right now or I'll hold my breath and turn blue..."
to something like "I can't think of anything useful to say right now, so I'll go and do some reading and when I have something interesting to say I'll say it and perhaps if readers find my post interesting we'll engage in conversation about it and I'll learn some stuff and... hey, I just noticed I've got more than five posts already so I'd better start to think seriously about how I can contribute to the other discussions that I'll be getting access to."
The present system isn't foolproof but it's better than many fora have. Lotta noise on the Interwebz.
My problem with the newbie restriction was that I had already been doing bitcoin related stuff for years when I joined the forum about a month or two ago. It was stupid for me to have to post 5 times and for four hours with useless crap so I could post the one questions I came here to post. But since I had knowledge of my aspect of bitcoining, I felt those questions I shuld have been able to post to the correct forums. As you can see, I still post in this forum even though I am not a newbie anymore for questions for areas I am new to. I have been mining for years, but I'm relatively new to trading for example).
The problem is that not all of us on this forum are adults (or at least act like adults) and can self triage their posts to the right subforum.
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