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sr. member
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May 28, 2024, 03:27:28 AM
#27
Many crypto casinos that have a good reputation in this forum, why play on a less well-known platform?
And Im sure those 2 platforms never post or promote their casinos in this forum, sorry to say but it seems they will not respond to your complaint here.
How about bring the dispute to casinoguru, because if I look at Wazamba rating on casinoguru it is considered a good casino.

For sure there are many reasons why OP still wants to play on those online casinos, even though as you said that they aren't well-known platforms. Based on my own experience, one of the reason why I still play on casinos that aren't even trusted is because of the promotions they offered like free spin without any deposits requirements. But even so, it is of course best to avoid these kinds of sites as much as possible for also to avoid this kind of problem, even if they offer good promo.
hero member
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May 27, 2024, 11:30:42 AM
#26
Many crypto casinos that have a good reputation in this forum, why play on a less well-known platform?
And Im sure those 2 platforms never post or promote their casinos in this forum, sorry to say but it seems they will not respond to your complaint here.
How about bring the dispute to casinoguru, because if I look at Wazamba rating on casinoguru it is considered a good casino.
I still wonder why ops keep making the mistakes of choosing less popular casinos and sport bookings site when we already have a lot of them here in the forum the gambling board is big enough to serve as resource place to make decisions on which Casinos to trust and how their operates.


Some casinos have manual withdrawal which takes a lot of days and weeks week days only, this make their transactions processing very slow, we don't have such casinos around the forum a lot of them off the forum have such weird terms and conditions as regards to withdrawal, kyc, and others.
hero member
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May 27, 2024, 11:20:30 AM
#25
Thank you for bringing this to my attention by mentioning me. I rarely roam the gambling board, so cases like this [which should belong to scam accusations board] are easily missed. I really appreciate the helping hand to monitor cases for accusation on this board and bringing it to my awareness.
I knew you did it recent years and did great works so I am sure when you have time, you can look at the accusations.

I knew that accusations, if published in wrong boards, will easily not be noticed and already recommended OP to move this thread to Reputation board.

Your thread can help as a record for active accusations but without their brand representatives in the forum, it's hard to judge accusation is valid or invalid. Anyway, having a place, your thread, as a record or raw warning is not too bad.
legendary
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May 27, 2024, 10:54:47 AM
#24
There’s still no solid connection for this speculation but it’s true that OP money has a high chance that already lost since these 2 casino in subject are completely unknown here.
No chance to contact staffs or owners of the platform through the forum because they don't have announcement threads or any promotion here.

OP can still move this accusation thread to Reputation board. It can help other members as a warning, but I don't say this accusation is valid.

Let holydarkness knows about your accusation too.
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention by mentioning me. I rarely roam the gambling board, so cases like this [which should belong to scam accusations board] are easily missed. I really appreciate the helping hand to monitor cases for accusation on this board and bringing it to my awareness.



OP, as others have mentioned, these two casinos are sadly don't have any account here, so I can't pursue them to get your case resolved like other cases against casinos who have their representative present on this forum.

However, reading that your main goal here is to warn the community [we thanked you for that], I will gladly add them to my list, under the section of "casinos with no representative". At least that way, the case will easily come to anyone's awareness who do their DD instead of being drowned by other threads.

I am urging you to move this thread to scam accusations board where it'll be more appropriate.
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May 26, 2024, 06:33:49 PM
#23

I’m doubtful if you notice that the casino involved here is 22bet.com and not B2B like what stated on the post that you share. Is there any proven connection between this 2 casino or you just overlooked it when you share the post made on 1xbit thread?

The image said, “BetB2B by 1xbet.com” and that already shows that both 1xbet and BetB2B are owned by the same company and according to the list shared above all the casinos present in that list are currently making use of BetB2B software - and as long as they are connected to BetB2B in anyway then it’s safe to say that they are all in the same boat.

I wouldn’t expect much from a site that shares the same software with a known scam site.
legendary
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May 26, 2024, 05:50:30 PM
#22
Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit.

Look at this

..

If you are convinced that they are link, I would suggest that you get yourself ready to accept the reality that you might not be able to get your money because they probably have the same reputation since they are link with each other. Sorry for your loss mate but I hope your problem will resolve.

I’m doubtful if you notice that the casino involved here is 22bet.com and not B2B like what stated on the post that you share. Is there any proven connection between this 2 casino or you just overlooked it when you share the post made on 1xbit thread?


I'm just trying to connect the dots here as I've read this post above and I think there was a connection with B2B and 1xbit.

By the way, I don’t know how much this is relevant to this thread but I read somewhere that both 1xbit.com and 22bet.com are using the same type of software - which is “BetB2B” - you really need to be careful when dealing with site that has anything to do with 1xbit.com, for what we know they could have other sites that are theirs but not yet linked and exposed to the public.

They are really everywhere, making similar casinos that are coming from one software provider or operator, we dont know anymore but we should consider that when there is a linkage, we have to doubt its reputation already, must possible not to gamble anymore and this community should be a tool for the users to be aware of their possible connection.
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May 26, 2024, 05:36:26 PM
#21
I’m doubtful if you notice that the casino involved here is 22bet.com and not B2B like what stated on the post that you share. Is there any proven connection between this 2 casino or you just overlooked it when you share the post made on 1xbit thread?

22Bet.com is one of the casinos that has been identified to use the BetB2B platform, there by meaning the casinos of the list is linked to 1xbit as well. Let me quote the list by shield132. i think that's what freedomgo  was trying to point out.

I'll write down the list of casinos that use BetB2B platform so many don't become the victim of their scam and you'll get what you want OP too.

Quote
1xBet.com
1xBit.com
1xStavka.ru
22Bet.com
bet-1xsport.com
betwinner.com
casino-z.com
lordbetting.com
melbet.com
playwetten.com
pnxbet.com
sapphirebet.com
megapari.com
This is the source, published by FatFork.
legendary
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May 26, 2024, 11:26:24 AM
#20
If you are a forum member, I suggest you play at a casino that is reputable on the forum.
The forum has provided the opportunity for forum members to not just get easily scammed by playing in dubious casinos because there are many options of reputable casinos to choose from in the forum. The only people who should be having this kind of issue are people who are outside the forum not we that are forum members.

@OP, Sorry about the situation you have found yourself in and I like to say to you that if you are not a member of this forum yet, maybe this should be a good reason for you to join so that you do not fall prey to any predator casino again in the future .

hero member
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May 26, 2024, 11:24:20 AM
#19
There’s still no solid connection for this speculation but it’s true that OP money has a high chance that already lost since these 2 casino in subject are completely unknown here.
No chance to contact staffs or owners of the platform through the forum because they don't have announcement threads or any promotion here.

OP can still move this accusation thread to Reputation board. It can help other members as a warning, but I don't say this accusation is valid.

Let holydarkness knows about your accusation too.
[LIST] Scam Accusation Cases Against Betting Platform on The Forum
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May 26, 2024, 11:02:08 AM
#18
Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit.

Look at this

..

If you are convinced that they are link, I would suggest that you get yourself ready to accept the reality that you might not be able to get your money because they probably have the same reputation since they are link with each other. Sorry for your loss mate but I hope your problem will resolve.

I’m doubtful if you notice that the casino involved here is 22bet.com and not B2B like what stated on the post that you share. Is there any proven connection between this 2 casino or you just overlooked it when you share the post made on 1xbit thread?



Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit.

Ah, this is something bad.
but this is good information for us to be more careful in choosing a casino, or even just trying to get a bonus from a casino with tempting promos.

OP, sorry for your loss. but maybe you won't get your withdrawal. If you are a forum member, I suggest you play at a casino that is reputable on the forum. losing money due to defeat is not a problem. but when you win and can't withdraw it, it's really annoying.

There’s still no solid connection for this speculation but it’s true that OP money has a high chance that already lost since these 2 casino in subject are completely unknown here.
hero member
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May 26, 2024, 10:46:29 AM
#17
Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit.

Ah, this is something bad.
but this is good information for us to be more careful in choosing a casino, or even just trying to get a bonus from a casino with tempting promos.

OP, sorry for your loss. but maybe you won't get your withdrawal. If you are a forum member, I suggest you play at a casino that is reputable on the forum. losing money due to defeat is not a problem. but when you win and can't withdraw it, it's really annoying.
sr. member
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May 26, 2024, 10:00:11 AM
#16
        -   How long have you been in the crypto space? Because if you have been in this crypto business field for a long time, why didn't you play cryptocurrency casinos like Duelbits, Stakescom, Rollbit, LivecasinoLivecasino, Betcoin, Sportsbetio, Fortunejack,Fortunejack, and others that have been here for a long time,time,as well as as well as bcgames and Bk8?? 

I'm not family in the casino that you mentioned,, to be honest;; I just heard that now. And obviously,obviously, that casino is a scam because it was said that you should use everything you deposit on their gambling platform.. ThatThat is immediately wrong andand a short red flag tome, and me, and then the processing of your issue takes longer and longer. That's where it's really doubtful, so don't expect to get your money back there;; you'll be lucky if you get it back.
legendary
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May 26, 2024, 09:01:24 AM
#15
Look at this post from the 1xbit announcement thread so you can see how its link to 1xbit.

Look at this

If you right click on image and open in a new tab, you'll see it in higher resolution. There is a text under BetB2B logo -> by 1xBet <-. BetB2B and 1xBet had the same color on their logo for years. If you ask them, they'll deny but I strongly believe that they are the same. BetB2B creates a CMS, runs casino 1xBet and probably the same team also creates dozens of casinos under BetB2B CMS and run casinos to try and scam as many people as possible. Isn't it strange that almost every casino that runs BetB2B CMS, are scams? I think it's the same team.
I posted the list of casinos in that thread that you are talking about - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63995737
I personally wouldn't gamble in any casino that runs betb2b cms.

If you are convinced that they are link, I would suggest that you get yourself ready to accept the reality that you might not be able to get your money because they probably have the same reputation since they are link with each other. Sorry for your loss mate but I hope your problem will resolve.
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May 26, 2024, 02:27:30 AM
#14
So long story short, i made some winnings in sports betting in a few casinos, out of them all, only 22Bet.com and Wazamba.com arent allowing me to withdraw (22Bet.com) and "are processing the withdrawal" for over 8 days already.

22Bet.com did tell me i need to bet whole deposit, which i did, after i had $1.300 on that casino, tried to withdraw and got rejected, on live chat was told to email their support, they told me i had multiple accounts and i need to do verification (I dont have multiple accounts, why would i?) i sent ID Card, after 3 days they asked for selfie of me holding my ID card and a screen showing our email conversations, i somehow did that and sent them, in meantime i played two more sportsbet and got to $2.547, now they are asking for 3 last monthly utility bills, which i sent them just now, i highly doubt they will pay out, but lets see.

Wazamba.com, i won $450 there, requested a withdraw and contacted live chat to see the time needed for processing, they told me "We aim to process withdrawal requests in about 3 business days, from the next day that the request was made, or from the day of the last processed withdrawal." its been 8 days since and when i contact live chat again they tell me they need 1-3 business days Cheesy and payment is still on hold, lets see what happens there also.

Will post screens if needed, just posted this here to raise some awarness, so people avoid those, maybe i get paid out, maybe i wont, but i dont have high hopes, its around $3k.

It's very unfortunate, but next time you must do a Google search. Just type the name of the casino + review, and you will find out if it is recommended to bet at this casino.
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May 26, 2024, 02:12:11 AM
#13
This is the best example of when you don’t do thorough research about the site and keep on depositing your hard-earned money there. I meant there are already many reputable casinos and sportsbooks available in the market, but you still went for these two, whose names I bet many of us haven’t heard of either. These sites don’t have a thread here in the forum either. Nothing can really be done, sadly. Just contact the support team and keep providing the documents that they are asking for. Yes, one way it helped is that, from your case now, people will become more cautious about these sites and will be saved from getting scammed.
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May 25, 2024, 07:49:51 PM
#12
regarding Wazamba.com, it's my first time seeing that gambling site
I guess we are in the same boat  Grin

I checked them on casino.guru, they have a very high rating of 9.7/10 though they have a lot of complaints, 173 in total, 59 of them solved, 0 unresolved cases and the rest are rejected. even though what's going on is annoying I suggest lengthening your patience.
Maybe the high safety index is because they promptly respond to the complaints and don't abandon them. Most of the unresolved cases are due to the complainants abandoning the threads

Most of the resolved cases have also resulted into the players getting back their money. So definitely the safety index stays high.

On the contrary, if you look at the reviews, they are very low/bad on casinoguru

On trust pilot as well - https://www.trustpilot.com/review/www.wazamba.com
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May 25, 2024, 04:33:26 PM
#11
Since many dont believe, https://i.imgur.com/Gm8FYrg.png screenshot of wazambas withdrawal and the date, btw. 22Bet.com paid me out the first time i requested a payout, it was around $30, but it was almost instant, that baited me to deposit more and play, and there i can only screenshot balance, since withdrawal history is for past week maybe, and i requested before that and got rejected.

I haven't heard of this Wazambas casino either.  As for 22Bet casino, from what I read on gambling forums, it might actually be the same owners as 1xbet and 1xbit.  Those guys apparently have a real bad rep for not letting players withdraw winnings and things like that.  Selective scamming, I think they called it.  So yeah no wonder you're having issues getting your money back from them.  I'd stay away from sites like that if I were you.  Stick to the more well known places that have been around a while.  At least that way youve got some shot at cashing out when you win. 
legendary
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May 21, 2024, 06:25:24 PM
#10
Since many dont believe, https://i.imgur.com/Gm8FYrg.png screenshot of wazambas withdrawal and the date, btw. 22Bet.com paid me out the first time i requested a payout, it was around $30, but it was almost instant, that baited me to deposit more and play, and there i can only screenshot balance, since withdrawal history is for past week maybe, and i requested before that and got rejected.

It's good that you posted a screenshot of your evidence, but we do have a dedicated section for this kind of complaint, and you have a better chance of getting the attention that you need for your issue.

You can go here
Scam Accusations and there is a format to follow to highlight your complaint. Casinos will be alarmed if they have complaints filed in that section, then two casinos will not have an announcement here or a representative, but at least people will know their status here in this forum and on the internet.
newbie
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May 21, 2024, 05:42:24 PM
#9
Since many dont believe, https://i.imgur.com/Gm8FYrg.png screenshot of wazambas withdrawal and the date, btw. 22Bet.com paid me out the first time i requested a payout, it was around $30, but it was almost instant, that baited me to deposit more and play, and there i can only screenshot balance, since withdrawal history is for past week maybe, and i requested before that and got rejected.
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May 21, 2024, 05:08:58 PM
#8

Will post screens if needed, just posted this here to raise some awarness, so people avoid those, maybe i get paid out, maybe i wont, but i dont have high hopes, its around $3k.

As mentioned above this won’t help your case as there are no representatives here to help process your withdrawal request faster.

By the way, I don’t know how much this is relevant to this thread but I read somewhere that both 1xbit.com and 22bet.com are using the same type of software - which is “BetB2B” - you really need to be careful when dealing with site that has anything to do with 1xbit.com, for what we know they could have other sites that are theirs but not yet linked and exposed to the public.

If you are able to get your money - make sure you turn to a known site and stop using those that are still being hidden in the internet.
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