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snakecoin

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Quote from: bombardir on January 21, 2015, 10:49:34 AM

Quote from: snakecoin on January 21, 2015, 06:47:00 AM

Quote from: Fairbanks on January 21, 2015, 05:55:00 AM

@wp.coimtemp Do you have any comment about the disproportionately large amount of Double Spends that seems to surround the weekly and 24 hour games? We've seen numerous reports from people losing their payouts due to double spends. The blockchain.info address for the Weekly Ponzi game even has a warning on the topic:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/doublespend.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Week8mnAJwgaW5xJoBZo1UfhE8LYVJYk

I've lost my own payout from Day #2 of the 24 Hour Ponzi, apparently due to a Double Spend:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9

I've tried emailing you about this a couple times, but haven't received a response.

+1

I'm currently waiting for a resolution to this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10207111

My payment was cancelled due to a double spend and now appears to be back in the waiting list in the weekly game:(

now your address is clean. i mean there`s no "Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address", as it was earlier. now my address has this warning.

by the way, i contacted with op. now (~35 hours) waiting for his reply.

https://i.imgur.com/nlEkUgI.jpg

I'm waiting on a response from him as well since my payment did not confirm (it was dropped by the network) and appears to be paid forward the next guy...

padrino

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Quote from: kashish948 on January 21, 2015, 10:53:54 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: kashish948 on January 21, 2015, 04:06:06 AM

I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid!

I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer?

Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now.

Since there was 3 seconds left in the round when you sent that payment, there was not enough time for the payment cronjob to run (runs every 60 seconds). That is what sends out the payments. Hence, the 1 BTC went towards paying the deposits from day 4.

I take 5% fees from the 130% payout. So 130% of 1 Bitcoin is 1.3 Bitcoin. 5% of 1.3 Bitcoin is 0.065.

Make sense?

Quote from: wp.comtemp on January 21, 2015, 03:10:04 AM

No does NOT make any bloody sense! If that 1 BTC went into paying the deposits from day 4, it was NOT included in day 3 and you were lying about that with your screenshot! Guys DO NOT DEPOSIT ANYTHING here. OP has been caught lying clearly. OP refund me my money and stop scamming people!

Perhaps I am missing something, OP said what happened because you were early, am I off base, where is the lie? The rules are quite clear, upside is the OP didn't "take" your 1 BTC for himself, but let it be part of the game..

kashish948

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: kashish948 on January 21, 2015, 04:06:06 AM

I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid!

I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer?

Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now.

Since there was 3 seconds left in the round when you sent that payment, there was not enough time for the payment cronjob to run (runs every 60 seconds). That is what sends out the payments. Hence, the 1 BTC went towards paying the deposits from day 4.

I take 5% fees from the 130% payout. So 130% of 1 Bitcoin is 1.3 Bitcoin. 5% of 1.3 Bitcoin is 0.065.

Make sense?

Quote from: wp.comtemp on January 21, 2015, 03:10:04 AM

No does NOT make any bloody sense! If that 1 BTC went into paying the deposits from day 4, it was NOT included in day 3 and you were lying about that with your screenshot! Guys DO NOT DEPOSIT ANYTHING here. OP has been caught lying clearly. OP refund me my money and stop scamming people!

bombardir

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Quote from: snakecoin on January 21, 2015, 06:47:00 AM

Quote from: Fairbanks on January 21, 2015, 05:55:00 AM

@wp.coimtemp Do you have any comment about the disproportionately large amount of Double Spends that seems to surround the weekly and 24 hour games? We've seen numerous reports from people losing their payouts due to double spends. The blockchain.info address for the Weekly Ponzi game even has a warning on the topic:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/doublespend.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Week8mnAJwgaW5xJoBZo1UfhE8LYVJYk

I've lost my own payout from Day #2 of the 24 Hour Ponzi, apparently due to a Double Spend:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9

I've tried emailing you about this a couple times, but haven't received a response.

+1

I'm currently waiting for a resolution to this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10207111

My payment was cancelled due to a double spend and now appears to be back in the waiting list in the weekly game:(

now your address is clean. i mean there`s no "Warning! this bitcoin address contains transactions which may be double spends. You should be extremely careful when trusting any transactions to or from this address", as it was earlier. now my address has this warning.

by the way, i contacted with op. now (~35 hours) waiting for his reply.

https://i.imgur.com/nlEkUgI.jpg

padrino

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Quote from: bufa on January 21, 2015, 10:17:45 AM

This is really not correct from my point of view.
This is a game with high risc, but really clear rules for investment and payment.
If your script didn't worked correctly (for whatever reason) and you did double payments without any checks before this was not our fault.
So it is not okay, if we have to pay for it.
Please think about your big profits in the past and hopefully in the future and correct these things.
Maybe at least with another 10-20BTC

The game is just over 30 BTC off based on what OP pushed in, and the returned BTC from one honest player.. It's tough because there are a number of services at play to make a site like this work, in the case of the double payouts other players were boasting about keeping the extra, perhaps you should chat with them....

OP tossed half of the total take from all games in with the 20 BTC thrown back, and the systems cost money to keep running, all things considered a heck of a lot more upstanding then many of the players...

bufa

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Quote from: wp.comtemp on January 21, 2015, 03:55:08 AM

Quote from: kashish948 on January 21, 2015, 03:41:12 AM

Quote from: arieq on January 21, 2015, 03:38:42 AM

Quote from: wp.comtemp on January 21, 2015, 03:10:04 AM

It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol

Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC!

You were the last one to deposit in round 3. Why would you expect to see a payment txid? Do you even understand how this game works?

As you can see from this screenshot below, the payment was detected since it triggered a payment to the fees address. So your payment was detected and it was entered into the database for day 3, not day 4 because it was early.

Quote from: brizio71 on January 21, 2015, 03:50:55 AM

Dear OP can you please use some other BTC that you earn on fees to put on Weekly 2 in order to refund the error of your script on payout ?

I know that you have just use 20BTC, thanks for that, but the missing BTC are more than 50 !!!

Thanks

The 20 BTC wasn't just to pay back those missing payments, it was to jumpstart the round. It obviously didn't work, I'm not prepared to waste away another exorbitant amount from my own personal wallet. The 20 BTC was more than anyone else would have done in the same circumstances.

BTW, I'm not short of sight. I can read normally formatted text.

This is really not correct from my point of view.
This is a game with high risc, but really clear rules for investment and payment.
If your script didn't worked correctly (for whatever reason) and you did double payments without any checks before this was not our fault.
So it is not okay, if we have to pay for it.
Please think about your big profits in the past and hopefully in the future and correct these things.
Maybe at least with another 10-20BTC

Minnlo

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Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 09:26:13 AM

Quote from: Minnlo on January 21, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

All these 3 transaction have zero fee and low priority. They will most likely be dropped in the nodes' mempool in a few days before they are confirmed.

If I will rebroadcast these transactions, for example, every day then they will not forget? xD

Correct. Make sure you don't just rebroadcast the transaction to you, but also rebroadcast all the unconfirmed inputs.

bloodyboy

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Quote from: Minnlo on January 21, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

All these 3 transaction have zero fee and low priority. They will most likely be dropped in the nodes' mempool in a few days before they are confirmed.

If I will rebroadcast these transactions, for example, every day then they will not forget? xD

lamela

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Quote from: Minnlo on January 21, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

All these 3 transaction have zero fee and low priority. They will most likely be dropped in the nodes' mempool in a few days before they are confirmed.

with zero transaction fee they might take upto few days..you never know..as the priority is low.!

Fairbanks

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Quote from: fearlesscat10 on January 21, 2015, 08:27:31 AM

Quote from: james.lent on January 21, 2015, 08:04:37 AM

yeah, not bots. i was watching the clock too today like hawkeye . sent in transaction at 0.00 gmt. Shows top 5 on blockchain but not even in the top 15 on site Grin

not gonna try my luck again tomorrow. lol

Good luck.

I prefer the weekly, but I might give the daily one a try.

You're going to need to be VERY fast with your "bet". On Day #4, half of the total BTC sent was done so in the 00:00:00 time period.

If the OP has indeed fixed the random sort order bug on the site, you're really going to need to get your bet registered on the blockchain before the 00:00:01 time period for the best chance of receiving a payout. Then you have to worry about your payout being double spent and disappearing from your balance several hours later. Sad

Minnlo

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Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

All these 3 transaction have zero fee and low priority. They will most likely be dropped in the nodes' mempool in a few days before they are confirmed.

bloodyboy

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Quote from: padrino on January 21, 2015, 08:47:10 AM

Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

There is a chance it won't however I have seen things confirm days/weeks after the fact a number of times..

cool... maybe when BTC will be at 1mln $ this will confirm for me... Roll Eyes

padrino

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Quote from: bloodyboy on January 21, 2015, 08:19:45 AM

Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

There is a chance it won't however I have seen things confirm days/weeks after the fact a number of times..

fearlesscat10

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Quote from: james.lent on January 21, 2015, 08:04:37 AM

yeah, not bots. i was watching the clock too today like hawkeye . sent in transaction at 0.00 gmt. Shows top 5 on blockchain but not even in the top 15 on site Grin

not gonna try my luck again tomorrow. lol

Good luck.

I prefer the weekly, but I might give the daily one a try.

bloodyboy

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Is there any chance this inputs confirms over time...?

https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/f6788bab412cc833e0d8a767723002d09dd05e452800700ef472765b30f388de
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/a81deb4386ffe7e003d33816840a82d3acaa0eaac4e923482afc90a4b6b41ac8
https://blockchain.info/pl/tx/da5013194f8a040671a4f1b686be7477a4f8aded3dedece53f1bc8b5609e4f1c

my payment from 24h not confirm since serveral hours because this inputs not confirm... >.>

james.lent

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yeah, not bots. i was watching the clock too today like hawkeye . sent in transaction at 0.00 gmt. Shows top 5 on blockchain but not even in the top 15 on site Grin

not gonna try my luck again tomorrow. lol

dyask

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Quote from: everlast25 on January 21, 2015, 07:42:39 AM

So, lets draw a line.

Day | Total deposited BTC | Number of deposits
Day#1 93,6 127
Day#2 75,6 94
Day#3 72,9 77
Day#4 58,4 74

Basically, every day volume of 24ponzi will be less and less because of few factors:
a) Bots, that starting round in first 0-1 seconds
b) Decreasing amount of investors that quit because of money loss
c) Decreasing amount of people that quit because they think that the game is unfair (59:59 payouts, double spend, wrong addresses order, etc.)

Less volume - more risky game. In fact few next rounds we will see only bots vs bots competition.
But op can save the situation making for example some king of reward for last 3 deposits like it was in weekly one, etc. People need to be interested in participation, not only bots/smart asses.

This is nuts. It isn't bots, it is people carefully watching the clock. For the first deposit, there isn't any advantage for a bot. If you don't believe me, just write one yourself and see.

everlast25

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So, lets draw a line.

Day | Total deposited BTC | Number of deposits
Day#1 93,6 127
Day#2 75,6 94
Day#3 72,9 77
Day#4 58,4 74

Basically, every day volume of 24ponzi will be less and less because of few factors:
a) Bots, that starting round in first 0-1 seconds
b) Decreasing amount of investors that quit because of money loss
c) Decreasing amount of people that quit because they think that the game is unfair (59:59 payouts, double spend, wrong addresses order, etc.)

Less volume - more risky game. In fact few next rounds we will see only bots vs bots competition.
But op can save the situation making for example some king of reward for last 3 deposits like it was in weekly one, etc. People need to be interested in participation, not only bots/smart asses.

dyask

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Quote from: Salmon1989 on January 21, 2015, 06:54:43 AM

Quote from: dyask on January 21, 2015, 06:50:59 AM

Quote from: Fairbanks on January 21, 2015, 06:34:40 AM

Quote from: dyask on January 21, 2015, 06:24:21 AM

Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game. Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?

I don't know, but I can make a guess.

* Betters send transactions without fees. These take a very long time to confirm. (TX A)
* A transaction including a unconfirmed transaction get made and sent to a player
* That transaction won't confirm until after the first transaction (TX A) confirms, but the player has wallet set up to spend unconfirmed coins and reinvests with that (TX A)
* Now the game creates a new transaction with the unconfirmed (TX A) and sends it out to another player.

I think that looks like a double spend. If (TX A) ever confirms the whole thing should clear up, in in the mean time, 3 wallets are messed up. The only way to avoid the problem is not to spend unconfirmed transactions.

AFAIK, it is not like that. There seems to be a bug in the script causing the ponzi to create conflicting payments with the same tx output.

For example, someone deposited 0.00533372 to the ponzi address with standard fee (https://blockchain.info/tx/974e0e8b975631667986af2696a90b3538877ff198ef95965dd889aebb0e2837?show_adv=true), but then weeklyponzi made a douple spend attempt (https://blockchain.info/tx/12eb51cadb849136ebb02d29af775c8d64bea13e9c851351c39b75e8de16c657 and https://blockchain.info/tx/46d0de69db635ceb8dc9d5bca0dc8badb87f7aed6cdedb8526a4270ca42c58ab).

That looks a lot more serious. Embarrassed

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Quote from: dyask on January 21, 2015, 06:50:59 AM

Quote from: Fairbanks on January 21, 2015, 06:34:40 AM

Quote from: dyask on January 21, 2015, 06:24:21 AM

Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game. Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?

I don't know, but I can make a guess.

* Betters send transactions without fees. These take a very long time to confirm. (TX A)
* A transaction including a unconfirmed transaction get made and sent to a player
* That transaction won't confirm until after the first transaction (TX A) confirms, but the player has wallet set up to spend unconfirmed coins and reinvests with that (TX A)
* Now the game creates a new transaction with the unconfirmed (TX A) and sends it out to another player.

I think that looks like a double spend. If (TX A) ever confirms the whole thing should clear up, in in the mean time, 3 wallets are messed up. The only way to avoid the problem is not to spend unconfirmed transactions.

AFAIK, it is not like that. There seems to be a bug in the script causing the ponzi to create conflicting payments with the same tx output.

For example, someone deposited 0.00533372 to the ponzi address with standard fee (https://blockchain.info/tx/974e0e8b975631667986af2696a90b3538877ff198ef95965dd889aebb0e2837?show_adv=true), but then weeklyponzi made a douple spend attempt (https://blockchain.info/tx/12eb51cadb849136ebb02d29af775c8d64bea13e9c851351c39b75e8de16c657 and https://blockchain.info/tx/46d0de69db635ceb8dc9d5bca0dc8badb87f7aed6cdedb8526a4270ca42c58ab).

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