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Topic: WeeklyPonzi.com 'v3' | 100% Automated | Secure | 130% Return | 700+ BTC Invested - page 48. (Read 115086 times)

newbie
Activity: 47
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Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game.   Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.  

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?

I don't know, but I can make a guess.    

* Betters send transactions without fees.  These take a very long time to confirm.  (TX A)
* A transaction including a unconfirmed transaction get made and sent to a player
* That transaction won't confirm until after the first transaction (TX A) confirms, but the player has wallet set up to spend unconfirmed coins and reinvests with that (TX A)
* Now the game creates a new transaction with the unconfirmed (TX A) and sends it out to another player.

I think that looks like a double spend.   If (TX A) ever confirms the whole thing should clear up, in in the mean time, 3 wallets are messed up.    The only way to avoid the problem is not to spend unconfirmed transactions.  

In my case it never cleared up but was eventually purged from the blockchain so I wouldn't be holding my breath in a case like this...
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 510
Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game.   Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.  

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?

I don't know, but I can make a guess.    

* Player 1 sends transactions without fees.  These take a very long time to confirm.  (TX A)
* A transaction including a unconfirmed transaction gets made and sent to a player 2.
* That transaction won't confirm until after the first transaction (TX A) confirms, but the player has wallet set up to spend unconfirmed coins and reinvests with that (TX A)
* Now the game creates a new transaction with the unconfirmed (TX A) and sends it out to play 3.

I think that looks like a double spend, the game has sent the same unconfirmed BTC to player 2 and player 3.   If (TX A) ever confirms the whole thing should clear up, in in the mean time, 3 wallets are messed up.    The only way to avoid the problem is not to spend unconfirmed transactions.  
newbie
Activity: 47
Merit: 0
@wp.coimtemp Do you have any comment about the disproportionately large amount of Double Spends that seems to surround the weekly and 24 hour games? We've seen numerous reports from people losing their payouts due to double spends. The blockchain.info address for the Weekly Ponzi game even has a warning on the topic:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/doublespend.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Week8mnAJwgaW5xJoBZo1UfhE8LYVJYk

I've lost my own payout from Day #2 of the 24 Hour Ponzi, apparently due to a Double Spend:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9

I've tried emailing you about this a couple times, but haven't received a response.

+1

I'm currently waiting for a resolution to this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10207111

My payment was cancelled due to a double spend and now appears to be back in the waiting list in the weekly game:(
sr. member
Activity: 422
Merit: 250
DEV should turn off the system and come back with a v4 without bugs.

In other way this game will be dead this weak.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game.   Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.  

My own lost payout was from the 24 Hour Ponzi, so maybe they should both get new addresses.

What's actually happening that's causing the payouts to be double spent? Is it that previous "betters" are sending bogus transactions that, once sorted leave the Ponzi addresses essentially sending out payouts with bitcoins that don't exist?
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 510
Seems like there should be a new address for the weekly game.   Double spends and unconfirmed transactions after days isn't a good sign.

Transactions shouldn't be created from unconfirmed deposits.  
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
@wp.coimtemp Do you have any comment about the disproportionately large amount of Double Spends that seems to surround the weekly and 24 hour games? We've seen numerous reports from people losing their payouts due to double spends. The blockchain.info address for the Weekly Ponzi game even has a warning on the topic:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12472870/Misc/doublespend.jpg
https://blockchain.info/address/1Week8mnAJwgaW5xJoBZo1UfhE8LYVJYk

I've lost my own payout from Day #2 of the 24 Hour Ponzi, apparently due to a Double Spend:

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/ed88835ca9171b38cfdee344eac91f59607ec14c88c0210d66fbb401f146a4d9

I've tried emailing you about this a couple times, but haven't received a response.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 510
I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid!

I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer?

Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now.

Since there was 3 seconds left in the round when you sent that payment, there was not enough time for the payment cronjob to run (runs every 60 seconds). That is what sends out the payments. Hence, the 1 BTC went towards paying the deposits from day 4.

I take 5% fees from the 130% payout. So 130% of 1 Bitcoin is 1.3 Bitcoin. 5% of 1.3 Bitcoin is 0.065.

Make sense?


It is good to know what happen to the 1 BTC.   Does that always happen with the leftovers?   If so I didn't realize that.

About the fees, it seems the fee is collected at the time of deposit and it is 6.5% of the deposit.   That works out to 5% of the 130% payout, but it has typically been collected before that.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 510
fk this bullsh1t i will never play this ponzi again u better gamble on blackjack or roulette or play this nonsense

Based on how you you've been playing (from your talk on the thread) I am fairly sure you are in the black in a big way overall even if you have had some rough patches.. Sure 30% lose but that is the name of the game...

Stop lying, way more than 30% of people lost.

All I can say is that I just bought ~0.35 BTC with some of my paycheque and I'm not going to be putting it in a stupid ponzi ever again. The original comment is right, playing blackjack or roulette is a much better idea than playing this.

I think it is fair to question where that 1 BTC went.  
hero member
Activity: 522
Merit: 500


It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol

Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC!

You were the last one to deposit in round 3. Why would you expect to see a payment txid? Do you even understand how this game works?

As you can see from this screenshot below, the payment was detected since it triggered a payment to the fees address. So your payment was detected and it was entered into the database for day 3, not day 4 because it was early.




I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid!

I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer?

Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now.

That is probably because he takes 5% after 130% is calculated.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000


It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol

Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC!

You were the last one to deposit in round 3. Why would you expect to see a payment txid? Do you even understand how this game works?

As you can see from this screenshot below, the payment was detected since it triggered a payment to the fees address. So your payment was detected and it was entered into the database for day 3, not day 4 because it was early.




I know the last deposit won't get a payment. Don't try to talk stupid!

I'm talking about the payment for the next in line. Only 0.6xxx BTC were required to pay the next person. Where's the TXID of that payment scammer?

Secondly, isn't the fee 5%? The numbers don't match up! Explain this too now.
hero member
Activity: 602
Merit: 501
good write up @ wp.comtemp
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
https://i.imgur.com/ed5HADX.png

It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol

Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC!

You were the last one to deposit in round 3. Why would you expect to see a payment txid? Do you even understand how this game works?

As you can see from this screenshot below, the payment was detected since it triggered a payment to the fees address. So your payment was detected and it was entered into the database for day 3, not day 4 because it was early.

https://i.imgur.com/nDDrCKb.png

Dear OP can you please use some other BTC that you earn on fees to put on Weekly 2 in order to refund the error of your script on payout ?

I know that you have just use 20BTC, thanks for that, but the missing BTC are more than 50 !!!

Thanks

The 20 BTC wasn't just to pay back those missing payments, it was to jumpstart the round. It obviously didn't work, I'm not prepared to waste away another exorbitant amount from my own personal wallet. The 20 BTC was more than anyone else would have done in the same circumstances.

BTW, I'm not short of sight. I can read normally formatted text.
sr. member
Activity: 456
Merit: 250
Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
Dear OP can you please use some other BTC that you earn on fees to put on Weekly 2 in order to refund the error of your script on payout ?

I know that you have just use 20BTC, thanks for that, but the missing BTC are more than 50 !!!

Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000


It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above didnt prove anything, it could be easliy edited / updated / deleted... even a noob can do it lol

Exactly! Please show TXID of payment for Round#3 or accept that you tried scamming and refund my BTC!
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 256


It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

screenshot above doesnt prove anything, it can be easliy edited / updated / deleted using phpmyadmin ... even a noob can do it lol
hero member
Activity: 522
Merit: 500
fk this bullsh1t i will never play this ponzi again u better gamble on blackjack or roulette or play this nonsense

Based on how you you've been playing (from your talk on the thread) I am fairly sure you are in the black in a big way overall even if you have had some rough patches.. Sure 30% lose but that is the name of the game...

Stop lying, way more than 30% of people lost.

All I can say is that I just bought ~0.35 BTC with some of my paycheque and I'm not going to be putting it in a stupid ponzi ever again. The original comment is right, playing blackjack or roulette is a much better idea than playing this.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
Ok guys OP has probably scammed me.

I sent my BTC for this round when the time hit 0 on the website. https://blockchain.info/tx/cc83657b55bfa8f5764b8e629f7e7c667769c7b0b4ab2c78729e15e0f9784978

Now I know it shows 3 seconds early on the blockchain but here's what I have to say.

1) In the previous round the first transaction was 2 seconds early on the blockchain and was still counted for and paid. This proves that the website and blockchain time are not perfectly in sync. So it is in fact possible that my transaction was sent when the site timer hit 0 and hence it should have been counted like in the previous round.

2) His script is NOT running perfectly and this is 100% clear from above posts. Again proves there might be a difference between site time and blockchain time.

3) Most importantly if my transaction was early why was it not counted in the previous round? It can either be in the previous round or this round. It cannot just disappear because a new round begins immediately after the previous round ends.

4) Since it was not counted in any round, OP just kept it. Basically scammed me 1 BTC.

5) Now he has stopped replying to my emails stating these facts.

6) Now I'm not asking for the 130% payment but I think it deserve a refund since the 1 BTC has just been kept by the OP.

If you guys feel I am right and the problem was with his site, please email, tweet and PM him to refund me the BTC he has tried scamming. Also please post here in support.


OPs twitter: https://twitter.com/RealWeeklyPonzi
OPs email: [email protected]
OPs PM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=409927


Oh boy. This is quite funny.

Feast your eyes:



The only valid point you have is the deposit should have been included in the prior game.    How do you know it wasn't?   Most games have some leftover and the OP has been keeping that.   

As for the site timer, it is off because your computer is off.  Set the time on your computer. 

It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.

I am not lying or cheating! Your screenshot just shows the timestamp. Where's the proof that it was included in Round#3 ? Just that screenshot proves nothing! Round #3 last payment required only 0.6xxxx BTC. My 1 BTC should have fulfilled that. Where's the TXID for that payout? I could not find it on the blockchain!
donator
Activity: 3228
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Ok guys OP has probably scammed me.

I sent my BTC for this round when the time hit 0 on the website. https://blockchain.info/tx/cc83657b55bfa8f5764b8e629f7e7c667769c7b0b4ab2c78729e15e0f9784978

Now I know it shows 3 seconds early on the blockchain but here's what I have to say.

1) In the previous round the first transaction was 2 seconds early on the blockchain and was still counted for and paid. This proves that the website and blockchain time are not perfectly in sync. So it is in fact possible that my transaction was sent when the site timer hit 0 and hence it should have been counted like in the previous round.

2) His script is NOT running perfectly and this is 100% clear from above posts. Again proves there might be a difference between site time and blockchain time.

3) Most importantly if my transaction was early why was it not counted in the previous round? It can either be in the previous round or this round. It cannot just disappear because a new round begins immediately after the previous round ends.

4) Since it was not counted in any round, OP just kept it. Basically scammed me 1 BTC.

5) Now he has stopped replying to my emails stating these facts.

6) Now I'm not asking for the 130% payment but I think it deserve a refund since the 1 BTC has just been kept by the OP.

If you guys feel I am right and the problem was with his site, please email, tweet and PM him to refund me the BTC he has tried scamming. Also please post here in support.


OPs twitter: https://twitter.com/RealWeeklyPonzi
OPs email: [email protected]
OPs PM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=409927

You need to sync your clock, When I sent a transaction without syncing, your computer clock can be up to 5 seconds inaccurate in one day.
Syncing 30mins before the round starts fixes this issue.

I am pretty sure yours is just a sync issue.

And the first transaction 2 seconds early wasn't supposed to be paid. From what others said of OP later saying he is making sure to not pay any early again, and only right at round start sharp. And that was a mistake.

Yes his script isn't that great, and it has issues. But I am pretty sure your transaction was legitimately before the round started. I personally tested this out on blockchain
and fixed it by syncing my clock.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
Ok guys OP has probably scammed me.

I sent my BTC for this round when the time hit 0 on the website. https://blockchain.info/tx/cc83657b55bfa8f5764b8e629f7e7c667769c7b0b4ab2c78729e15e0f9784978

Now I know it shows 3 seconds early on the blockchain but here's what I have to say.

1) In the previous round the first transaction was 2 seconds early on the blockchain and was still counted for and paid. This proves that the website and blockchain time are not perfectly in sync. So it is in fact possible that my transaction was sent when the site timer hit 0 and hence it should have been counted like in the previous round.

2) His script is NOT running perfectly and this is 100% clear from above posts. Again proves there might be a difference between site time and blockchain time.

3) Most importantly if my transaction was early why was it not counted in the previous round? It can either be in the previous round or this round. It cannot just disappear because a new round begins immediately after the previous round ends.

4) Since it was not counted in any round, OP just kept it. Basically scammed me 1 BTC.

5) Now he has stopped replying to my emails stating these facts.

6) Now I'm not asking for the 130% payment but I think it deserve a refund since the 1 BTC has just been kept by the OP.

If you guys feel I am right and the problem was with his site, please email, tweet and PM him to refund me the BTC he has tried scamming. Also please post here in support.


OPs twitter: https://twitter.com/RealWeeklyPonzi
OPs email: [email protected]
OPs PM: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=409927


Oh boy. This is quite funny.

Feast your eyes:

https://i.imgur.com/ed5HADX.png

The only valid point you have is the deposit should have been included in the prior game.    How do you know it wasn't?   Most games have some leftover and the OP has been keeping that.   

As for the site timer, it is off because your computer is off.  Set the time on your computer. 

It was included in the previous game as you can see in the image. That's the funny part. This guy, a Hero member btw, is lying to get his money back because he CHEATED by trying to deposit too early.
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