Topic: Well, well, well, now we know what Jihan Wu’s been up to. - page 18. (Read 19997 times)

@gmaxwell assumes but isn't sure:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/63otrp/gregory_maxwell_major_asic_manufacturer_is/dfvvcdv/

And another interesting comment:

What's the sound of the tent getting fucked?
"*flap*... *flap*... *flappppp*..... *FLAPPPPPPPPPPPP*......!!"

Guess we now know why KNCminer went kaput. 

Read here:
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.00575

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/63otrp/gregory_maxwell_major_asic_manufacturer_is/dfwb8nu/?context=3

Doesn't sound to be exactly the case. I think it will be good for everyone to wait and see what Core suggests as far as implementing these suggestions, and what Jihan has to say on the topic. All we have are deleted tweets (possibly fake) on his behalf at this point:
https://twitter.com/neo_blogr/status/849803261444067328

probably fake and it doesn't make sense, if anyone use that boost it's like they are doing nothing, and the result would be the same earnig as before

also the only boost you can get is by adding or having better hardware, via software there is no optimization that can be done anymore on the mining scene

just look at this https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--1843662, cgminer for bitcoin asic, is as optimized as it get there is no room for anything

So you are arguing that Core developers in all their perfect wisdom mucked with the game theory Satoshi made and now they want to muck with it some more.


You're turning Bitcoin into a government. It is the mucking precedent that is creeping in through the crack under the door.

Once the camel gets his nose under the edge of tent, run because the tent is fucked.

If miners had been using this tech prior to the p2sh (multisig) softfork, then that softfork would not have been possible in it's current form.


In this case, because the secret method makes miners do strange things, the secret method can likely still be detected on the blockchain once more is understood about it. A patent holder would have little problem doing this.

You are correct.

None of those issues are a problem. Empty blocks go away later. Litecoin offers a platform for experimentation. Bitcoin will remain immutable. You've been warned. Mine or hodl tokens on a fork, and you will lose.


Yes he is. He is banning the optimization of using secrecy to avoid patents and gain market share covertly. In short, he is blocking the free market. @gmaxwell has always believed the world would be better if he could be in charge of organizing it "better".

Bitcoin is not a government. It is a protocol. We trust the protocol not to change based on a democratic majority human opinion. The economic majority are the whales. They will not defect from the contract of the protocol and will defend it.


You and your fellow communists are hereby banished to Litecoin forever. You will not be allowed back to Bitcoin. If you try to furk, you will get fucked. Watch and observe.

I remember from my courses in intellectual property that there's a fundamental difference between the way US and for instance, European patent offices work ; even though the end result is the same.  The US patent office actually accepts almost any patent that is not blatantly inappropriate (in form or in content).  It works mainly as a kind of attorney, where they act the fact that you've deposited a patent.  But it has no legal standing, apart from the fact of being deposited.  It is only on the very first case in court that the validity of the patent is really tested.
European patent offices are much more restrictive in their attribution of a patent, and they essentially only accept a patent if they think that it has good chances to be considered valid the first time it is tested in court.  
Ultimately, all patents are only tested in court.  Only, a US one is totally open and can just as well be rejected as accepted by the judge as valid ; in principle that's the same in Europe, except that the patent office already looked in much more detail at it, and so it has much more chance to be upheld in court if ever the patent was granted.  Although, in the end, it is always the judge who decides.

So it is probably much easier to patent the trademark "Face" in the US than in Europe, but that doesn't mean that it will be upheld in court.

Is @gmaxwell about to cause a HF war on Bitcoin with his nonsense?


I can see the butthurt for Gregory and he is getting desperate because he knows soon he is going to be working for the Chinese doing work on Litecoin.

Haha. Believe what ever nonsense you want to believe dimwit.


Except that I do it every time on crypto-currency speculation (except once). It's all documented.

Jimmy Song live on MadBitcoins right now to discuss this news. (edit: oops, not live.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay4jDJSK3_Q

Nah, LOL 

WhalePanda is the one posting the Panda Pics.

Once saw WhalePanda blow ~$50,000 on Pandacoin. 

 

In my thinking he doesn't require a centralized system. He needs to have the controllability of the entire network in his hands. The first block mining with BU all of that happened unexpected and he tried to use it as an chance to keep hold of the control authority. Now everything went out of hands.

Still one big problem with Patents in China.  

https://www.chinabusinessreview.com/obtaining-and-enforcing-design-patents-in-china/


 

I had started a topic that became a redundancy to this one so I've locked it. Will just join you guys here.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-jihan-wu-cheating-other-miners-with-exploit-that-could-be-fixed-with-segwit-1857167



So Jihan has oddly started coping with the latest revelations by posting repeated panda pictures.


https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/849837547891023873

This is getting weird.

Here is bitmains ASICBoost patent in China:
http://211.157.104.77:8080/sipo_EN/search/detail.do?method=view&parm=16b414c21a2f19d11b2c18401bcd1a5f183a19561ad91be11a501c4805792c231f5421b222572195236c20482755275723ca24be2221222525702494250d26c0274025822c3f29092a7c29a02d6d2d6f28fa2ed62bd12c892f482c34330947932f5c2c0a2ac731b9333c316c366534e7318235ee337934f1360837f03747371b371a34e231bf38f13b04390c3e0d3f6f39ea3dc63c573d6d3e683e4c26d918c33ffe3c523c273e354334405c47c545774302408e4423458d47b04688462b46a846c246aa436f47554bcc49784a2d

That one patent covers foundries in China, which make up ~80% of foundries in the world.

Hmm, Nope,

Show me a Patent # with a link.

The Patent Process is very expensive, even LTC dropped their patent a few years ago.
ASICBoost says Patent Pending, but no patent is on file , unless you have a link, the US Patent office did not list them at all.