Topic: Western Conference Finals (Warriors vs Mavericks) - page 3. (Read 3735 times)

Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 23, 2022, 08:43:10 PM

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Luka now experiencing what Lebron has experienced when they were dominated by the Warriors. They'll be lucky if they will win one game, and game 4 is their only chance of winning, so they should not waste that opportunity as they are at home, at least give their fans one game to enjoy.

In my own opinion, Luka is slow,he's good but he's not unstoppable.

He's not actually slow, it's his style of play that looks like he slow coz he's using his size and strength as he is a bit oversized for a point guard position.
Anyways, it's not Luka who's the problem why Warriors are beating them. It's the whole Mavs team without no experience in the big stage against a veteran team who's been living in the Finals since 2015.

Right, that is deceiving, but what Luka do is control his phase and see how the defense will react, if the defense is slow, then he might take advantage to go to the basket or shot long distance. If the defense is close then he will go for an outside pass. And he is having a good series, but the rest of the whole Mavs are struggling at this high level of basketball, and maybe that is because they don't have the experience yet. So this is their last game to proved or at least get one win.

It's not about the experience, Warriors are just the better team and that's the real reason why they beat the Mavs 3 in a row. Curry and company are too composed in the game, they never panic, they always follow the game plan and everyone is contributing.

And that's why they are the better them because they have the experience. Just like they beat the Memphis, for sure we can call them the better team because they are the second seed but the Warriors beat them.

Game 4 though was a good game for the Mavs, no sweep at least getting 1 victory might be a complement for them against a very experience and caliber team in Warriors.

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Mavericks finally won a game in this series. I was even waiting to see them winning the third game but they failed. They have a very difficult work to do now even though they won the fourth game. Because Warriors are already 3-1 ahead in the series and all of the remaining games are like a series point for them. Doncic had a solid game too by the way. He had 30 points, 14 rebounds and 9 assists. He just continues to take the most of the responsibility for his team as always. But it looks like this is the end of the road for Mavericks.

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Quote from: Johnyz on May 25, 2022, 08:33:38 AM

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Dallas Mavericks still managed to hold off a GSW late rally and snatched game 4. Some eyebrows raised and were curious especially when GSW bench players managed to rally in the last few minutes but were pulled out by Steve Kerr. The same curiosity on GSW before this series when Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies buried GSW and then closed their series when they played at home. I think GSW will also close this series in game 5 at home in San Francisco.

I'm also shocked that the bench players did a very great job chasing the lead, but its just that the decision making of the coaches affects the players and may the star players are really off in game 4. Many already place their bet for Warriors in Game 5, and there's no that that Warriors will have a huge chance here to take the win. Mavs on the other hand should continue to play their game and maybe, luck will be on their side this time. This is still basketball, and we know everything is possible to happen.

Follow the trend and you'll be alright. Actually, even if the Warriors are -10.5, I would still take them as I believe they'll win game 5. Things should favor the Warriors, they are on their home court and they have the fans to support them so they'll celebrate after the game.

Right now the handicap for the Warriors is -7 and that's already good, however, it's still too early for me to bet and I'll wait for the tip-off first for Game 5.

I agree, a -10.5 spread is still reasonable as I know that they will be the ones who will advance to the Finals and that will happen on their next game at their homecourt.

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Quote from: Johnyz on May 25, 2022, 08:33:38 AM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 25, 2022, 06:54:18 AM

Dallas Mavericks still managed to hold off a GSW late rally and snatched game 4. Some eyebrows raised and were curious especially when GSW bench players managed to rally in the last few minutes but were pulled out by Steve Kerr. The same curiosity on GSW before this series when Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies buried GSW and then closed their series when they played at home. I think GSW will also close this series in game 5 at home in San Francisco.

I'm also shocked that the bench players did a very great job chasing the lead, but its just that the decision making of the coaches affects the players and may the star players are really off in game 4. Many already place their bet for Warriors in Game 5, and there's no that that Warriors will have a huge chance here to take the win. Mavs on the other hand should continue to play their game and maybe, luck will be on their side this time. This is still basketball, and we know everything is possible to happen.

Follow the trend and you'll be alright. Actually, even if the Warriors are -10.5, I would still take them as I believe they'll win game 5. Things should favor the Warriors, they are on their home court and they have the fans to support them so they'll celebrate after the game.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 25, 2022, 06:54:18 AM

Dallas Mavericks still managed to hold off a GSW late rally and snatched game 4. Some eyebrows raised and were curious especially when GSW bench players managed to rally in the last few minutes but were pulled out by Steve Kerr. The same curiosity on GSW before this series when Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies buried GSW and then closed their series when they played at home. I think GSW will also close this series in game 5 at home in San Francisco.

I'm also shocked that the bench players did a very great job chasing the lead, but its just that the decision making of the coaches affects the players and may the star players are really off in game 4. Many already place their bet for Warriors in Game 5, and there's no that that Warriors will have a huge chance here to take the win. Mavs on the other hand should continue to play their game and maybe, luck will be on their side this time. This is still basketball, and we know everything is possible to happen.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 25, 2022, 06:54:18 AM

Dallas Mavericks still managed to hold off a GSW late rally and snatched game 4. Some eyebrows raised and were curious especially when GSW bench players managed to rally in the last few minutes but were pulled out by Steve Kerr. The same curiosity on GSW before this series when Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies buried GSW and then closed their series when they played at home. I think GSW will also close this series in game 5 at home in San Francisco.

Same scenario happened during the first round against the Nuggets. I think this will be over in game 5 and the Warriors will not allow anymore that Mavs will dictate the temp, they will be dominating the game and will end with a huge margin, that's my prediction because it's a bounce back.

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Dallas Mavericks still managed to hold off a GSW late rally and snatched game 4. Some eyebrows raised and were curious especially when GSW bench players managed to rally in the last few minutes but were pulled out by Steve Kerr. The same curiosity on GSW before this series when Ja-less Memphis Grizzlies buried GSW and then closed their series when they played at home. I think GSW will also close this series in game 5 at home in San Francisco.

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 25, 2022, 05:08:51 AM

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I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

Mavericks won and lucky to those who took the risk on betting with them.
Warriors are off in game 4, some says they are affected by the current incidents in Texas but I think its ok to give credit sometimes to Mavericks since they did their best today and the result is really good for them. Though I doubt about them winning, but at least they show a good match. Game 5 is the home court advantage of Warriors, they should finish this already.

The Mavs performed well on this game, and I don't think it's just lucky of them that they pulled through. However the next game I don't think they will be having enough fuel in the tank left to go against the Warriors on their home court. We need some kind of miracle from Luka and the gang to make this series extend even further and for us to watch for more games before the series finale. I'm betting something for the Mavericks for me to have a reason to root for them, but I don't see this going any further than game 5.

Even though they win, still very close, I mean they have a huge lead but the Warriors was able to cut it into single digits in the 4th with three minutes and they made a final push.

Fortunately, for the Mavs, they were able to hold the late spurt of the Warriors and win by 10 points. But the score didn't tell the whole story. So yes, probably in the next game, the Warriors are going to close out the show.

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Quote from: dothebeats on May 25, 2022, 05:08:51 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on May 25, 2022, 05:08:51 AM

I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

Mavericks won and lucky to those who took the risk on betting with them.
Warriors are off in game 4, some says they are affected by the current incidents in Texas but I think its ok to give credit sometimes to Mavericks since they did their best today and the result is really good for them. Though I doubt about them winning, but at least they show a good match. Game 5 is the home court advantage of Warriors, they should finish this already.

The Mavs performed well on this game, and I don't think it's just lucky of them that they pulled through. However the next game I don't think they will be having enough fuel in the tank left to go against the Warriors on their home court. We need some kind of miracle from Luka and the gang to make this series extend even further and for us to watch for more games before the series finale. I'm betting something for the Mavericks for me to have a reason to root for them, but I don't see this going any further than game 5.

They don't even win a close game in chase center, so I think the Warriors will have a blowout win in game 5.

Warriors cannot lose that game, otherwise, they'll have the pressure as the game could reach game 7. And yes, it's a miracle, as the Mavericks need to win 3 straight games in order for them to beat the Warriors, and since it has not happened in the history of the NBA, I would not believe they'll achieve that big success.

So yeah, Warriors it is. GAME 5, no more games.

I believe that as well, and I think that win by the Mavs would already attract bettors to place their bet on them as they think that Mavs could win or at least cover the spread if they lose. Me, I'm not buying their last performance, thing is, the Warriors have not lost a game yet on their home court, so I'd go with the trend.

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I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

Mavericks won and lucky to those who took the risk on betting with them.
Warriors are off in game 4, some says they are affected by the current incidents in Texas but I think its ok to give credit sometimes to Mavericks since they did their best today and the result is really good for them. Though I doubt about them winning, but at least they show a good match. Game 5 is the home court advantage of Warriors, they should finish this already.

The Mavs performed well on this game, and I don't think it's just lucky of them that they pulled through. However the next game I don't think they will be having enough fuel in the tank left to go against the Warriors on their home court. We need some kind of miracle from Luka and the gang to make this series extend even further and for us to watch for more games before the series finale. I'm betting something for the Mavericks for me to have a reason to root for them, but I don't see this going any further than game 5.

They don't even win a close game in chase center, so I think the Warriors will have a blowout win in game 5.

Warriors cannot lose that game, otherwise, they'll have the pressure as the game could reach game 7. And yes, it's a miracle, as the Mavericks need to win 3 straight games in order for them to beat the Warriors, and since it has not happened in the history of the NBA, I would not believe they'll achieve that big success.

So yeah, Warriors it is. GAME 5, no more games.

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I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

Mavericks won and lucky to those who took the risk on betting with them.
Warriors are off in game 4, some says they are affected by the current incidents in Texas but I think its ok to give credit sometimes to Mavericks since they did their best today and the result is really good for them. Though I doubt about them winning, but at least they show a good match. Game 5 is the home court advantage of Warriors, they should finish this already.

The Mavs performed well on this game, and I don't think it's just lucky of them that they pulled through. However the next game I don't think they will be having enough fuel in the tank left to go against the Warriors on their home court. We need some kind of miracle from Luka and the gang to make this series extend even further and for us to watch for more games before the series finale. I'm betting something for the Mavericks for me to have a reason to root for them, but I don't see this going any further than game 5.

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Quote from: Yogee on May 24, 2022, 05:30:01 PM

I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

Mavericks won and lucky to those who took the risk on betting with them.
Warriors are off in game 4, some says they are affected by the current incidents in Texas but I think its ok to give credit sometimes to Mavericks since they did their best today and the result is really good for them. Though I doubt about them winning, but at least they show a good match. Game 5 is the home court advantage of Warriors, they should finish this already.

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I'm expecting that Dallas Mavericks at least will have underdog odds this Game 4. I think this is the first time I saw a team behind 0-3 that still listed as a slight favorite to win the game. Bookies might think that Mavericks can still able to pull this one even though it's clear from the previous 3 games that Mavericks can't handle the much more dominant Warriors.

The Mavs strategy in this series is quite clear. Keep shooting outside and pray that it will go in. The problem is most of Luka's teammates are missing a lot of those shots even though they have clean looks.

That's one of their problems even back in Game 1. Even though there's no defender, some of Luka's teammates can't still make a shot.

His teammates need to adjust at all costs. The later game will be their last game if they still didn't step up.

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Quote from: ultrloa on May 24, 2022, 05:06:37 PM

Quote from: rdbase on May 24, 2022, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 23, 2022, 08:43:10 PM

Quote from: ultrloa on May 24, 2022, 05:06:37 PM

Luka now experiencing what Lebron has experienced when they were dominated by the Warriors. They'll be lucky if they will win one game, and game 4 is their only chance of winning, so they should not waste that opportunity as they are at home, at least give their fans one game to enjoy.

In my own opinion, Luka is slow,he's good but he's not unstoppable.

He's not actually slow, it's his style of play that looks like he slow coz he's using his size and strength as he is a bit oversized for a point guard position.
Anyways, it's not Luka who's the problem why Warriors are beating them. It's the whole Mavs team without no experience in the big stage against a veteran team who's been living in the Finals since 2015.

I am thinking the exact same thing. Mavericks don't have the experience to make any sort of comeback by a seasoned team like the Warriors.
They will get swept in this series and Golden state will want to end it early so to have a rest when they met the next team to move on to the finals.
I am going to guess and put Golden State to win by a wide margin as Luka couldn't start anything last match and is distraught he doesn't have any players who can match his skill so to back him up in this playoff run, which fell flat way to quickly.

For what we see on what currently have with perfect execution on offensive and defensive end Mavs really don't have anything to push back this series in favor to them and most provably they will be sweep by GSW because I actually don't see some major adjustment as they keep relying on Luka in terms of offensive matters. Maybe they should start to look for the weakness of the death 5 line up and maybe they should insert Boban inside to establish inside presence and might this will give a hard time for Warriors to penetrate inside the paint.

If they would really be having that kind of behavior on which too much relying on Luca will really not work if you do compare on how Warriors do execute plays and teamwork then you could actually see the difference in between teams.He carries too much on his shoulders unlike on the other side which each player do function out well and could really make out move both defense and offense
GSW is really just too good when it comes to outside/3pt shooting which do really gradually make the lead gap even more wider as timer counts.

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Mavs really don't have anything to push back this series in favor to them and most provably they will be sweep by GSW because I actually don't see some major adjustment as they keep relying on Luka in terms of offensive matters. Maybe they should start to look for the weakness of the death 5 line up and maybe they should insert Boban inside to establish inside presence and might this will give a hard time for Warriors to penetrate inside the paint.

The Mavs strategy in this series is quite clear. Keep shooting outside and pray that it will go in. The problem is most of Luka's teammates are missing a lot of those shots even though they have clean looks. Changing their strategy like inserting Boban won't work either since he's not that mobile. The Warriors are quick on the inside and can rely on their outside shooting anytime.

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Quote from: rdbase on May 24, 2022, 04:54:48 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 23, 2022, 08:43:10 PM

Luka now experiencing what Lebron has experienced when they were dominated by the Warriors. They'll be lucky if they will win one game, and game 4 is their only chance of winning, so they should not waste that opportunity as they are at home, at least give their fans one game to enjoy.

In my own opinion, Luka is slow,he's good but he's not unstoppable.

He's not actually slow, it's his style of play that looks like he slow coz he's using his size and strength as he is a bit oversized for a point guard position.
Anyways, it's not Luka who's the problem why Warriors are beating them. It's the whole Mavs team without no experience in the big stage against a veteran team who's been living in the Finals since 2015.

I am thinking the exact same thing. Mavericks don't have the experience to make any sort of comeback by a seasoned team like the Warriors.
They will get swept in this series and Golden state will want to end it early so to have a rest when they met the next team to move on to the finals.
I am going to guess and put Golden State to win by a wide margin as Luka couldn't start anything last match and is distraught he doesn't have any players who can match his skill so to back him up in this playoff run, which fell flat way to quickly.

For what we see on what currently have with perfect execution on offensive and defensive end Mavs really don't have anything to push back this series in favor to them and most provably they will be sweep by GSW because I actually don't see some major adjustment as they keep relying on Luka in terms of offensive matters. Maybe they should start to look for the weakness of the death 5 line up and maybe they should insert Boban inside to establish inside presence and might this will give a hard time for Warriors to penetrate inside the paint.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 23, 2022, 08:43:10 PM