Bitcoin is super natural coin it will not fall that higher whales are only spreading bad news there is no need to trust on them. Just make research and follow the market trend I am sure after few years everything will be normal. Whales are spoiling the market to take advantage from unawareness of New investors and traders.
Funny, nowadays, bitcoin hardly fall for any bad news again, there are several news that I have read in the past and I think will fall bitcoin, but it never did, and I looked at it from my own angle also, when I heard such news, why did I not react and take steps to take my money out? I didn’t because I know that we have very foolish people in the market that likes to create FUD news for bitcoin because they hate it and we have whales that want to manipulate people into dumping their coin so that they can accumulate this, and I think virtually all the present investors knows this and they will never allow themselves to be used or manipulated by all the whales any longer, which is why we don’t see much responses again. 
Topic: Whales Every time change the market?? (Read 2378 times)
Whales are given too big influence compared to those they really have. If they really can such power that would mean they controll the market. And Bitcoin is decentralized and independent, right?
So, to my opinion they can influence market in some very limited scope.
So, to my opinion they can influence market in some very limited scope.
nobody controls the market but sometime, a dangerous sell off can affect the market. also market movement can trigger a bull or bear market. thats why you need to follow the market thrends, news and TAs to know when to sell off and when to buy.
some time, it is not the whales.
some time, it is not the whales.
All right. To be a successful trader now, you need not only to predict the trend, you need to understand the whales will lead the trend and when, and most importantly why.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Have you ever considered that not every activities or Bitcoin price changes is been caused the whales?
Funny enough, most Bitcoin prices can be an influence of fellow traders like him too.
Market moves to the direction of buying and selling.
Yes they can do anything pumping and becoming a dumper. they are able to manipulate prices.
this is the fact they can even manipulate trading volumes in the market.
this is the fact they can even manipulate trading volumes in the market.
Guys i have a serious problem. Most of the time whales are controlling the market with big profits. But how we can sell the bitcoin at correct time? Someone can say me please learn aboth the trading.But the my idea is trading is just some patterns of market changes. Not rules. The market just can be changed by whales and news anytime.
One thing we can be sure of is that we cannot predict what a good price to sell. We need to learn about signals based on charts and news.If bad news is released, there is no doubt that bitcoin will fall sharply. or the buyer is unable to create a buying zone, then the seller is sure to sell off, ... and there are many examples.
Therefore, you should have a reasonable profit to take profits after a period of hold. That's the best way to not fall into the shark trap.
All right. To be a successful trader now, you need not only to predict the trend, you need to understand the whales will lead the trend and when, and most importantly why.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Have you ever considered that not every activities or Bitcoin price changes is been caused the whales?
Funny enough, most Bitcoin prices can be an influence of fellow traders like him too.
Market moves to the direction of buying and selling.
All right. To be a successful trader now, you need not only to predict the trend, you need to understand the whales will lead the trend and when, and most importantly why.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
We mostly blame whales for market change but we also thankful how they make hypes and then be profitable. They are also a market player, investors just like us and blaming them because of our losses isn't a good idea. Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Whales did their best also in order to make money and somewhat so-called market manipulation but it doesn't mean that they are the one controlling the entire market, only they are capable of changing market trends.
All right. To be a successful trader now, you need not only to predict the trend, you need to understand the whales will lead the trend and when, and most importantly why.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Perhaps this is the most difficult of all that I have ever learned about trading.
Guys i have a serious problem. Most of the time whales are controlling the market with big profits. But how we can sell the bitcoin at correct time? Someone can say me please learn aboth the trading.But the my idea is trading is just some patterns of market changes. Not rules. The market just can be changed by whales and news anytime.
If me i will always use pattern buy at rumour, sell at news. Usually when bitcoin pumped, it followed by big news and before that, people usually know the rumour first. And then on bitcoin pumping phase will start to buy but not wait for news come, after i think it is enough, i sell my coins and take profit. Because usually when news come, people start to sell their coins, if we late, we will trapped when price already dumped.
I can only give you a hint. In order to understand which way the market will go, or rather, which way the whales will lead, you need to have access to whale deals,
the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
Do we know who they are so we can make a deal with them? But we're not and surely we can't find them in here.the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
Instead, of finding them and spending a lot of time, it is better to focus on our own strategies. Whales did their job also, they have that advantage to manipulate the market price and for us, to not be affected so much we will also be versatile in every market change.
Whales play a massive role in the manipulation of crypto prices no doubt. Until regulation comes into effect, whales can do almost anything they want to pump and dump whatever they want. All we small fish can do is to ride the waves. Buy low and sell high.
I can only give you a hint. In order to understand which way the market will go, or rather, which way the whales will lead, you need to have access to whale deals,
the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
Do we know who they are so we can make a deal with them? But we're not and surely we can't find them in here.the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
Instead, of finding them and spending a lot of time, it is better to focus on our own strategies. Whales did their job also, they have that advantage to manipulate the market price and for us, to not be affected so much we will also be versatile in every market change.
I can only give you a hint. In order to understand which way the market will go, or rather, which way the whales will lead, you need to have access to whale deals,
the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
the volumes that are now pouring into the market creating a pump or dump.
With the naked eye, such things are usually visible only post factum.
Just buy and hold, only whales know where the price will go.
Probably you are right because we all know how the market price is been determined by the whales but even at that, that shouldn't deter anyone from be able to trade to make profits rather than hold. Those who hold are liable to look unto the whales but as a trader you take the profit bit by bit. 
Guys i have a serious problem. Most of the time whales are controlling the market with big profits. But how we can sell the bitcoin at correct time? Someone can say me please learn aboth the trading.But the my idea is trading is just some patterns of market changes. Not rules. The market just can be changed by whales and news anytime.
If me i will always use pattern buy at rumour, sell at news. Usually when bitcoin pumped, it followed by big news and before that, people usually know the rumour first. And then on bitcoin pumping phase will start to buy but not wait for news come, after i think it is enough, i sell my coins and take profit. Because usually when news come, people start to sell their coins, if we late, we will trapped when price already dumped.
The right answer is never wait for them to have the big plays in the market because if you are part of the waiting game chances are Bitcoin already had dropped and you will just think and think about it until you see that your portfolio isn't green anymore. Never play with the big guys if you aren't willing to risk it all, there is really no point on waiting on a higher number if you are already happy with the gain you will receive. When you have loads of cash already then it's the perfect time to see how the whales will do a profit taking and see Bitcoin go down again which will be a perfect entry point for you. You can always ride with the whales but you can never match on when and where they will sell.
The real question is, how can we stop them from affecting the market so much. We all know bitcoin is decentralized and we all know bitcoin can't be controlled by a government, so we all know bitcoin can move however it wants and we can't do anything about it.
So, whales take advantage of this fact and they move the market however they want without worrying about anything in the world since they can't be "caught" here in bitcoin for something illegal, in other stuff like stocks speculation and manipulation is often illegal (unless you bribe some politicians of course) but here its all legal so you can do any movement you want. We need to find the balance between whales doing freely whatever they want but still keep it a decentralized ecosystem for us as well.
So, whales take advantage of this fact and they move the market however they want without worrying about anything in the world since they can't be "caught" here in bitcoin for something illegal, in other stuff like stocks speculation and manipulation is often illegal (unless you bribe some politicians of course) but here its all legal so you can do any movement you want. We need to find the balance between whales doing freely whatever they want but still keep it a decentralized ecosystem for us as well.
Just buy and hold, only whales know where the price will go.
Is it only one whale that we have in the market that they will know the price direction of bitcoin, dot forget that we dint have a single whale in the market, there are whales from different locations with different order mind set, as one whale is thinking of putting money into the market, another whale may actually be thinking of how to withdraw large amount of money, and whales also depends on FOMO also, the reason why they pump money is for the value to shoot up a little bit with the hope that many people will see it as bull run and start investing in it for their own investment to appreciate, but they are also with doubts too, as they don’t know if their strategy will work or not, so it is not every whales that can determine the price of a crypto, except all those smaller cryptos. when the whales appear to be free in moving prices, they also have strategies that sometimes benefit us, the market sometimes needs them especially if the trend is sideways.
Although our capital is not as much as they have, there is no harm in understanding how they think and we just need to adjust, because trends sometimes emerge with patterns that are similar to things that happened before.
I do discuss with people sometimes that without these whales, maybe the price of bitcoin may not have even had that record of $19800 that made majority of people super reach because it was when whales pumped money into the market that it created FOMO for the value to reach that high because if we are to be sincere to our self, it is still because many people wants to multiply their money that made them really put in money into the capitalization of bitcoin.Although our capital is not as much as they have, there is no harm in understanding how they think and we just need to adjust, because trends sometimes emerge with patterns that are similar to things that happened before.
There is not much people that are really concerned about utility that much except some few first that uses it to kind of evade tax, but whales have much more money which we have also benefited from, and the best is just to try and learn when they enter the market and when they plan to exit like some of the forum mates has already suggested.
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