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Desperation for people and government mostly.

For the most part, people will remain with what's comfortable for them. For a while people are happy with the MBS (mortgage-backed securities), when things went to shitter everyone panicked and agreed that something like MBS shouldn't be done anymore not for any reason. People agreed to not have anymore world wars after the second war obliterated Japan's cities. It's through these desperate measures that we see the most change in legislations and how the government attacks things.

With crypto it couldn't be any more similar. For a while they are letting it run free, some countries even supporting it, but when things go south and government finds out how it undermines the profit streams of the richest, they are trying to circumvent the process and ban it. yet another sign of desperate times calling for desperate measures.
I agree. Desperation to survive and be backed up by a stronger and more powerful country. In my country we are always trying to be updated and follow what is trending in the West for reasons that be believe that they are the ones that can help us lead the country to a better status. Moreover, there is still the underlying effect of the colonialism that happened years ago, hence the influence of those powerful countries that took control of the country I live is still present in various aspects, especially in political matters. Hence, it doesn't take much for our government to adapt changes and practices provided by these countries.
Especially if you're a developing country, you can't really blame your country for relying upon these outside forces for protection and help. For one it's so tough to make it out of the poverty hole for a country, since you can't expect every politician with the power to change the country to be inherently honest and good enough to put the people's welfare above others. It's just one of those things really. Another would be the fact that most countries (I'm not sure where you particularly live but this goes for every country who asks for aid in the west) are either marginalized by private companies abusing their manpower or their resources for personal benefit, or they are just flat-out resource-dry.
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One thing is thirst of money because making millions is easy but making billions is not easy and we all know that how big the difference is. So, are these platforms and governments being only after money, or other power to control people's life they are already manipulating people's thought through internet like news of Fire in Lahaina and fire in Dubai and fire in Saudia Arabia. These might be consequences but back in time Ford Car company also took loan before 2008 recession and all other companies go bankrupt why they attract money just few months before recession and why big companies are after BTC and trying there hard best to collect BTC and still delaying the process? That's all my confusions are if anyone love to share their thoughts then i am grateful to you all.
Wherever they may be, governments must always possess the authority to regulate their populace, as they bear the responsibility for the welfare of their citizens. In my view, this isn't a significant issue as long as the government effectively manages its duties by ensuring fairness while leading and maintaining a commendable vision. However, in practice, the lack of transparency often leads to disappointing abuses of power.

The strength of a nation comprises various elements, but governance stands as the most crucial element, which must take the forefront when engaging in collaborations or relations with other countries. Leadership's power must be present and capable of fostering a populace that adheres to the government.

Perhaps this is one reason why governments or large corporations aspire to dominate the market. It all ties back to strength and authority.
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.


If your country is a sovereign nation with all the paraphernalia that makes it independent country and it is still having such interference, that makes your country is being recolonized and that is called neocolonialism. I think the reason is that your leaders have kept being stooge to other countries who are mingling with the affairs of your country and that means your country will not experience a total freedom and your growth rate economically, technologically and otherwise will be limited. Your country need to experience real freedom to grow.

For the fact that we have one cardinal meeting point makes it important for leaders of various countries to take conscious steps toniodate themselves and using acceptable economic tools to take advantage and negotiate the interest pf the country in the international communities, so the bottom line is that,  leaders of most third world countries such as countries from Africa struggle so much with neo colonialism and that have left the to depend on the west for economic supports meanwhile those elies are mostly their former colonial masters,  so this have made it very obvious and clear that there is a deliberate attempt to saburtsge the economic potential of most former colonized countries,  this also give birth to corruption because the reason why most countries who have experienced that level of economic meltdown and recessions to the point that the country now survive on importation and heavily indebted this are all features of a failing country.

Trades are determine by the amount of a countries GDP and if anyone failed to meet up with that GDP demand am afraid that such countries will experience all the crisis that we have all pointed out,  so that lead us to the question as to what make up for an independent country,  and how far have those countries who just got independent have done in term of developments.
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Desperation for people and government mostly.

For the most part, people will remain with what's comfortable for them. For a while people are happy with the MBS (mortgage-backed securities), when things went to shitter everyone panicked and agreed that something like MBS shouldn't be done anymore not for any reason. People agreed to not have anymore world wars after the second war obliterated Japan's cities. It's through these desperate measures that we see the most change in legislations and how the government attacks things.

With crypto it couldn't be any more similar. For a while they are letting it run free, some countries even supporting it, but when things go south and government finds out how it undermines the profit streams of the richest, they are trying to circumvent the process and ban it. yet another sign of desperate times calling for desperate measures.
I agree. Desperation to survive and be backed up by a stronger and more powerful country. In my country we are always trying to be updated and follow what is trending in the West for reasons that be believe that they are the ones that can help us lead the country to a better status. Moreover, there is still the underlying effect of the colonialism that happened years ago, hence the influence of those powerful countries that took control of the country I live is still present in various aspects, especially in political matters. Hence, it doesn't take much for our government to adapt changes and practices provided by these countries.
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.


If your country is a sovereign nation with all the paraphernalia that makes it independent country and it is still having such interference, that makes your country is being recolonized and that is called neocolonialism. I think the reason is that your leaders have kept being stooge to other countries who are mingling with the affairs of your country and that means your country will not experience a total freedom and your growth rate economically, technologically and otherwise will be limited. Your country need to experience real freedom to grow.
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Desperation for people and government mostly.

For the most part, people will remain with what's comfortable for them. For a while people are happy with the MBS (mortgage-backed securities), when things went to shitter everyone panicked and agreed that something like MBS shouldn't be done anymore not for any reason. People agreed to not have anymore world wars after the second war obliterated Japan's cities. It's through these desperate measures that we see the most change in legislations and how the government attacks things.

With crypto it couldn't be any more similar. For a while they are letting it run free, some countries even supporting it, but when things go south and government finds out how it undermines the profit streams of the richest, they are trying to circumvent the process and ban it. yet another sign of desperate times calling for desperate measures.
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There's nothing that money and power cannot drive, people believed that when they are in power, it drives their motives to a realistic experience to being fulfilled, there are more other things that can hasten the people's decision but oney and power are the major key factors that triggers these, sometimes when we do not have money, we become so obsolete that the way we think is being affected and the way people view our opinion becomes less effective that they give priority to them just because we aren't with money or in power.
money is absolute power in this era, with money you can move the government of a region, you can change history and you can disrupt or improve the world.  Look around you, do poor groups get good respect? Of course, that will never happen, whether individuals, groups or even countries compete to become rich and have influence over those around them.  anyway, dissatisfaction is one of human nature, maybe there are some who are satisfied with what they have achieved today, but some don't feel enough because their ambitions haven't been achieved or they have other big dreams, so we will never stop see people trying to control other people.

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It may sound a bit clichéd but I agree with what you're saying because in the end it all comes down to how money and power monopolise everything.
As long as we have money and power then everything will be easy, although in this case there will definitely be many opinions and arguments that blame each other, still when we draw a big line when someone has a very good financial condition then power will be easy for him to achieve and when power and money are already used then no matter how difficult such problems will become easy to do.

On the other hand, in this case, of course, the privilege of differences in each strata also applies, indeed everyone can survive but not all will get their portion according to them because again money and power remain the difference in this case.
Yes, because money is so much equivalent to power. Many people tend to go wrong in their decision because they did not see the consequences they only thought that they need to do that thing for the sake of money and power. We need to be ahmmm aware to those little things because sometimes it can fool us, the higher the effort that we want to have money and power the more greedy we become.

There's nothing that money and power cannot drive, people believed that when they are in power, it drives their motives to a realistic experience to being fulfilled, there are more other things that can hasten the people's decision but oney and power are the major key factors that triggers these, sometimes when we do not have money, we become so obsolete that the way we think is being affected and the way people view our opinion becomes less effective that they give priority to them just because we aren't with money or in power.
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It may sound a bit clichéd but I agree with what you're saying because in the end it all comes down to how money and power monopolise everything.
As long as we have money and power then everything will be easy, although in this case there will definitely be many opinions and arguments that blame each other, still when we draw a big line when someone has a very good financial condition then power will be easy for him to achieve and when power and money are already used then no matter how difficult such problems will become easy to do.

On the other hand, in this case, of course, the privilege of differences in each strata also applies, indeed everyone can survive but not all will get their portion according to them because again money and power remain the difference in this case.
Yes, because money is so much equivalent to power. Many people tend to go wrong in their decision because they did not see the consequences they only thought that they need to do that thing for the sake of money and power. We need to be ahmmm aware to those little things because sometimes it can fool us, the higher the effort that we want to have money and power the more greedy we become.
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It's complex, but the short answer is money and power.

When you have money and power, you can control anyone else as you can do anything and the other people can't. Every human can live as long as they have food and a place to sleep, but due to current modern era where it make most of people trying to become rich, they started to become selfish and not care with the others.

Not everyone can win in the race to become rich, but everyone can survive.
It may sound a bit clichéd but I agree with what you're saying because in the end it all comes down to how money and power monopolise everything.
As long as we have money and power then everything will be easy, although in this case there will definitely be many opinions and arguments that blame each other, still when we draw a big line when someone has a very good financial condition then power will be easy for him to achieve and when power and money are already used then no matter how difficult such problems will become easy to do.

On the other hand, in this case, of course, the privilege of differences in each strata also applies, indeed everyone can survive but not all will get their portion according to them because again money and power remain the difference in this case.
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.


Developing country are often guided by the developed and stronger country especially when the country have debt to that country.  I am sure there is an agreement that those interfering with your government has been allowed by this agreement.  One example is forbidding a country to manufacture military items.  There is always a catch whenever a country is helping another country.



As far as I understand, people and government are driven to adopt new Ideas and bold decision if it will benefits them or  one of the requirement of a country that will grant the government  the help it needed.
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So, the point i was trying to make here is, even after getting our own country other countries are still interfering in governments rules and taking things over. I don't like to mention names but many already knew. And just to clear i am not saying these statements to put my problems (my means my country) in front of you guys instead i am just using it as an example.

When something happens and continue to happen in government even after successive administrations, it will begin to look like norms to people. It will become a way of life even if is bad. If a government transfers impunity to the government, impunity continues to linger and at a time it will look as if impunity is part of the government. At this point it is near impossible for anyone to make laws that will fight this impunity that rather look foundational.
However, a time like now will come as it is seen in some West African countries as military coup. It is at this point you have to make the bold decision as seen in the title of this thread. Just a few countries is totally independent, the majority are still dependent on other countries who manipulate them knowingly and unknowingly.
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Government is scammer, it makes rules for its benefit . Government does not care public situation. After COVID  many government blamed COVID, they did not change their policies. They take a debt from IMF  and IMF said that you have to increase prices of things if you want to give debt to me. Political people make their houses big, they cut agricultural land and cut into plots , they make a calonies, they build a huge huge factories for their own purpose, they do not concern with poor people or who give vote to them. They came into politics only for power and money. They make all type of sins. They are involved in all type of corruption. Many of the government employees are in power, they are because of political persons. Political persons take money and give high level post to a person who is not eligible for this.

A priori, most politicians steal from the budget by inventing various fictitious activities. Therefore, many of them go into politics to be at the trough. If a person goes against the system, the system absorbs him. This applies to any state and any political system
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The ultimate goal is to maintain its existence, either as an individual or a country. Money and power are the tools used to achieve these goals, regarding competition and domination over others are an integral part of achieving goals. Some Individuals and Countries will put peace first, they prioritize their ambition to rule and gain profits.

All these complex problems, can only be overcome by holding back a little ambition to dominate others and put peace first, that's better.
Yes, with money and power, survival will always be possible. Not just for an individual, but for the whole country’s government. And wherein people achieved money and power, thus making them controlled their lives, even the lives of other people. That’s why with money and power, I personally think peace is mostly overlook. But it comes with greed and selfish desires where manipulation comes next to it.
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It's complex, but the short answer is money and power.

When you have money and power, you can control anyone else as you can do anything and the other people can't. Every human can live as long as they have food and a place to sleep, but due to current modern era where it make most of people trying to become rich, they started to become selfish and not care with the others.

Not everyone can win in the race to become rich, but everyone can survive.
Government is scammer, it makes rules for its benefit . Government does not care public situation. After COVID  many government blamed COVID, they did not change their policies. They take a debt from IMF  and IMF said that you have to increase prices of things if you want to give debt to me. Political people make their houses big, they cut agricultural land and cut into plots , they make a calonies, they build a huge huge factories for their own purpose, they do not concern with poor people or who give vote to them. They came into politics only for power and money. They make all type of sins. They are involved in all type of corruption. Many of the government employees are in power, they are because of political persons. Political persons take money and give high level post to a person who is not eligible for this.
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The ultimate goal is to maintain its existence, either as an individual or a country. Money and power are the tools used to achieve these goals, regarding competition and domination over others are an integral part of achieving goals. Some Individuals and Countries will put peace first, they prioritize their ambition to rule and gain profits.

All these complex problems, can only be overcome by holding back a little ambition to dominate others and put peace first, that's better.
Human ambition and greed, this can encourage an individual or a country to continue to expand its power and continue to intervene against other countries whose power is lower than their own. And money is a tool used to expand or seize existing power.

Through money an individual or a state can seize power. and through power a country can intervene against other countries. and we can see for ourselves what is done by large countries which continue to intervene and manipulate other countries to obtain the natural resources they have. For example, in the Middle East, they continue to receive interception so that big countries can get the oil in that country. and likewise, countries in Southeast Asia continue to receive intervention from other countries so that large countries/superpowers can obtain natural resources in the Southeast Asia region.
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Well yeah the sad truth, just like companies, not all companies is good companies, not all government is good government, and I don't mean good like in decent, I just mean that some government do not really know how to be more profitbale and be sustainable. Any government that don't invest in education to make their people more intelligence will be left behind by other country, and they will not survive so long, people will be poor and extremely dissatisfied to the state that they want a revolution.
That would be true if the government in turn had as a goal the progress of their nation and its people, however the goal of many politicians out there is simply to keep themselves in power, and in that case keeping their citizens ignorant and poor works best for them, this is why the literacy rate was so low back on the Medieval age, books were expensive and almost no one could read them as they were written in a different language than the one people spoke, and this is why as soon as this changed thanks to the movable type printing press people began to aks questions and change their way of thinking, which lead to the Renaissance.

That's what I mean as a not good government, if they want to keep themselves in power the only way to do is to keep the people work for them, and also make the people work harder and better. If they don't do that, eventually there will be no country to rule, no one to be exploited, and there will be no power to be held anymore, they will not sustain. A good government will keep most of the profit of their country to themselves, while sharing small amount of the money just enough to keep the people working and earning more profit for the government.

If the government succeed in doing this, they will keep generating wealth and much more, while their people will trap in the middle-class, but these middle class will still happy with their life and keep working for the government.
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Well yeah the sad truth, just like companies, not all companies is good companies, not all government is good government, and I don't mean good like in decent, I just mean that some government do not really know how to be more profitbale and be sustainable. Any government that don't invest in education to make their people more intelligence will be left behind by other country, and they will not survive so long, people will be poor and extremely dissatisfied to the state that they want a revolution.
That would be true if the government in turn had as a goal the progress of their nation and its people, however the goal of many politicians out there is simply to keep themselves in power, and in that case keeping their citizens ignorant and poor works best for them, this is why the literacy rate was so low back on the Medieval age, books were expensive and almost no one could read them as they were written in a different language than the one people spoke, and this is why as soon as this changed thanks to the movable type printing press people began to aks questions and change their way of thinking, which lead to the Renaissance.
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I know most people thing that government is all evil and cruel, but the truth is government is just like a big company. Each and everyone of them want to make profit for themself while at the same time maintain the government and the nation to survive and keep running. Government won't make a huge policy that will sink the nation, kill most of the citizen or make them very poor and stop working, they need to make the citizen able to work so the economy is not stop. Most of their decision will be made to increase productivity and nation income thus increase their own income, those decision will most likely dictate by the stakeholders or some of us call them Oligarch, some of the decision will be based on good research, but then again even if the decision is based on research the goal is still to increase productivity and income so the stakeholders get richer, and the government get more bonuses. In some special case, like in the country where I live, the Oligarch is also the government, most of the new laws that made are actually benefitting their business.

I wish this were true, but it can only be true in some countries. There are countries where the leaders do not care if the country or its citizens get better. The whole country can be burning for all they care as far as their accounts will get fat.

Illiteracy and poverty is a very strong tool for politicians. They can country the masses if the masses don't need them so they make sure the masses are never free.
The leaders keep giving them crumbs so they keep coming back for more.
During campaigns, they promised them electricity and better transport systems and better education and security, blah blah blah. Now imagine if all these things are already what these people have and they have good jobs that pay them well, what would these politicians use as bargaining chips to win votes?


Well yeah the sad truth, just like companies, not all companies is good companies, not all government is good government, and I don't mean good like in decent, I just mean that some government do not really know how to be more profitbale and be sustainable. Any government that don't invest in education to make their people more intelligence will be left behind by other country, and they will not survive so long, people will be poor and extremely dissatisfied to the state that they want a revolution.
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There is no single country in the world that can be completely independent which is why there is international trade. allies, helping the underdeveloped country financially and thousands of others which all nothing means they need one other to keep running their government but the influence of one country depends on their financial and military state.

True that since different resources are scattered in the world, not a single nation has it as have them all.  So a country can either invade or have trade to other country in order to have access to its natural resources.

Now, talking about the people what else choice do they have?

If you are against the policy you can vote against it but it is not going to stop them from ruling which is the power/flaw of democracy. And people are even tired of their day-to-day life by chasing money to pay their bills and meet financial requirements so they don't actually have time to think beyond themselves.

Voting? LOL, is it really effective?  Most corrupt politician cheats.  They ensure their dominance through cheating.  These corrupt official make it easier to cheat when the digital system is implemented.  Honestly, I believe the true result of national election has never been published, it is always been modified by "add and omit" system.

In case there are some people go intense then they will be badged as terrorist groups by the government.

Intensely aggressive resulting in damage to human lives and properties, being intense alone should not label people as terrorists as long as they don't have a negative impact on the government and its sovereignty.

As for the government and people, oftentimes times it is the calculated benefits that make them bold in their decisions.
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