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Topic: What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ? - page 12. (Read 9060 times)

legendary
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I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.
So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...



What fish can you eat which are surely from the sea? - and i dont mean the ones you catch yourself.  I know salmon is from a farm pretty much always.
newbie
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Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat Smiley. A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

http://vegaprocity.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/dietarydifferences.jpg

That diagram is a bit funny. Bears and rats are both considered (according to their natural diet) as omnivores, however their teeth couldn't be more different. According to what we know about our ancestors diet, most hominids never been clearly herbi- or frugivores. Even our most closely related "relatives" the chimps are hunting for other primates. (BTW gorillas and orangutans are not meat eaters but they are eating considerable amounts of insects and eggs, so they are also consuming animal proteins.)
Actually the best argument against veganism is the B12 vitamin. Vitamin B12 is an absolutely essential thing, to keep our machine ticking. There are plenty of B12 in meat, but scarce in plants therefore vegans need vitamin supplements. Same thing applies to iron, iodine, zinc, calcium, vitamin D, Omega fatty acids, and so on. So, if being vegan is so natural, fine and dandy and we don't need no stinkin' meat then why they have to take artificial stuff like vitamin and mineral pills?
I think this chart is BS, and the author(s) cherry picked a few things to support their claims, but ignored a lot more what doesn't fit to their views.

the real question is : what do aliens eat...

second question at which point there isn't enough trace mineral to sustain human life on earth? burning the dead may be the only solution to disperse... solient green is untasty.

I prefer wild fish, there is a better pollution dispersion. you eat farmed fish... you get mono-accumulation quickly. Unless they are feeded with quality feed, but most of the time it's sewer sludge recompacted with rest of fishes. (again thx RT).

the euro trash would never have told us.
newbie
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I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

If you are not living next to a fishing port, and used to shop from the local fishmonger then probably most of your fish, and other swimming/crawling see-stuff came from an industrial fish farm, where they using quite similar methods like in a "chicken factory".

I buy fish in the local market, fisherman here just take the fish out of the sea, he does not breed them or is actually limiting their freedom as long as they aren't taken out of water.
legendary
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And you know that how? They don't print that info on cans.
You'd have to get it straight from a fisherman to be sure.

In almost every bigger shops or chains you can buy "wild-caught fish". If you have a good and trustworthy fishmonger then you will also have the option to get real fish. Of course in both cases you have to pay a premium price Smiley.
legendary
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Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.
So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

http://egyfodder.com/Files/Images/512%D9%85%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%20%D9%81%D9%89%20%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA.jpg

I don't buy breeded fish
And you know that how? They don't print that info on cans.
You'd have to get it straight from a fisherman to be sure.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.

If you are not living next to a fishing port, and used to shop from the local fishmonger then probably most of your fish, and other swimming/crawling see-stuff came from an industrial fish farm, where they using quite similar methods like in a "chicken factory".
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
Nothing wrong with vegan food as a side-dish for a nice chunk of meat Smiley. A bit more seriously, we are designed to be omnivores. That "omni" thingy includes meat and fat as well. BTW the first and last fully vegan humanoids, the Paranthropus robustus chewed nuts, roots and bulbs and got extinct eventually, while their scavenging cousins the Australopithecus africanus happily turned to our progenitors.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:



That diagram is a bit funny. Bears and rats are both considered (according to their natural diet) as omnivores, however their teeth couldn't be more different. According to what we know about our ancestors diet, most hominids never been clearly herbi- or frugivores. Even our most closely related "relatives" the chimps are hunting for other primates. (BTW gorillas and orangutans are not meat eaters but they are eating considerable amounts of insects and eggs, so they are also consuming animal proteins.)
Actually the best argument against veganism is the B12 vitamin. Vitamin B12 is an absolutely essential thing, to keep our machine ticking. There are plenty of B12 in meat, but scarce in plants therefore vegans need vitamin supplements. Same thing applies to iron, iodine, zinc, calcium, vitamin D, Omega fatty acids, and so on. So, if being vegan is so natural, fine and dandy and we don't need no stinkin' meat then why they have to take artificial stuff like vitamin and mineral pills?
I think this chart is BS, and the author(s) cherry picked a few things to support their claims, but ignored a lot more what doesn't fit to their views.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.
So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

http://egyfodder.com/Files/Images/512%D9%85%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B9%20%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B3%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%83%20%D9%81%D9%89%20%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%83%D8%A7%D8%AA.jpg

I don't buy breeded fish
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I could care less about the ethics. The cruelty makes it taste better. Why do you think veal tastes so good. Or pate de foi gras?

And my wife looks fantastic in fur

The regrettable fact that you exist is actually your cunt mother's fault for not having aborted you.

I strongly agree, no to veal, no to foi gras, fuck it, it's suffering, insane, typical of plant prohibitionist bent on alcoholizing the people to have them be docile slaves.

I agree fur is hot, when it's not the last for a sustainable dna diversity. everything in measure.
legendary
Activity: 1049
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I could care less about the ethics. The cruelty makes it taste better. Why do you think veal tastes so good. Or pate de foi gras?

And my wife looks fantastic in fur

The regrettable fact that you exist is actually your cunt mother's fault for not having aborted you.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
my donkey is vegan too Smiley.
legendary
Activity: 2478
Merit: 1360
Don't let others control your BTC -> self custody
I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.
So you haven't heard of fish breeding ponds or industrial breeding...

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1010
Ad maiora!
I know of people who have cured various ailments by going vegan, I believe it can be quite healthy.

My health is fine and I like meat and dairy so I won't bother for now.

I could care less about the ethics. The cruelty makes it taste better. Why do you think veal tastes so good. Or pate de foi gras?

And my wife looks fantastic in fur
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
I eat just fish cause fishes can live their lives freely in the sea and they're just killed once when we need to eat them, without all the caged life that a chicken or a similar animal need to do in a modern food industry.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
I voted YES. Crazy times has come, and what meat industry doing to animals its not nice at all. What we buy in stores its not healthy for sure. Just for high quality food u need money, its expensive to eat healthy.

I've found this site to be quite reasonable prices and I always end up with free shipping: vitacost.com They've got some really good, tasty, healthy stuff there.
legendary
Activity: 3346
Merit: 1191
I voted YES. Crazy times has come, and what meat industry doing to animals its not nice at all. What we buy in stores its not healthy for sure. Just for high quality food u need money, its expensive to eat healthy.
hero member
Activity: 555
Merit: 507
My better half is vegan. I am not. I don't think I would have any problems going vegan since a lot of it is really good food, but I like meat too and don't have any plans to stop eating it
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
I have nothing against Vegetarians of Vegans. Except when they feel the need to get in my face about my choice to eat meat, an tell me how wrong I am. Those people are fanatical. Fanaticism is never good. I understand and respect their opinion and choice, I just want the same in return.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1000
I dont have any issues regarding people being vegans, I consider that as a very healthy lifestyle as for me I even tried being a vegetarian for almost a year and it did have an positive effect on one's own physical body.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1027
Someone that don't eat meat is just an hippie. And hippies are like faggots : unnaturals !  And as you know, everything that is unnatural need to be cleaned... Maybe you'll tell I'm hard, but go tell to the fox that he has no right to eat rabbits ! That's just ridicule !

It's scum like you who needs to - and eventually will - be wiped out from the face of the earth. Anyways, I love these threads, they help my already huge ignore list to grow even more.

What you say is intolerant. So now I'm on your ignore list and you won't see this post ? I don't care because that's because you close your eyes to don't see the plague that it doesn't exist ! People who don't eat meat are stupid because their body need it.
Losvienleg ..go and jump off the roof head first you plant pot ..
DUMB ASS  Grin
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