Topic: What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ? - page 13. (Read 9037 times)

There is one way to make every one a vegan
we need to feed our kids with just veggies from when they have there first meal from a child
and learn them about animals have feeling just like you and me ..
but also they will lead a healthy long life ..
BUT i love a bacon butty and i have tried quorn and its not nice ..
so no chance for me to be a vegan or my child i fed her meat so to late ..
but  MASSIVE RESPECT TO YOU FOR BEING A VEGAN YOU ARE SUPERSTARS IN MY EYES..

 so av a nice day all you vegans and may you live long and prosper

Humans can survive on a wide variety of diets including a vegan diet. I personally think it is healthy to base my diet around vegetables, starches and only a tiny bit of meat.

What you say is intolerant. So now I'm on your ignore list and you won't see this post ? I don't care because that's because you close your eyes to don't see the plague that it doesn't exist ! People who don't eat meat are stupid because their body need it.

No, it's just that people who know better are aware that:

1 - These forums are full of Russians and eastern Europeans with a stone age mindset.

2 - Even worse, these forums are also full of dog eating Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese and other subhuman Asian scum.

3 - There's no point in trying to argue with individuals from groups 1 and 2.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the holy rollers and other assorted religious fundamentalists. It still amazes me that crypto gave birth to a "community" that's essentially a disgusting living cesspool.

It's scum like you who needs to - and eventually will - be wiped out from the face of the earth. Anyways, I love these threads, they help my already huge ignore list to grow even more.

I was brought up a vegan, but since living away from parents, i've become a regular meat eater.

I must say, i hate being skinny and that's something that parents don't tend to think about too much for a growing lad!

Some of my friends gone vegan. So now I know there are two types of vegans: the first one includes those who do not eat meat and all meat related products for their reasons but they do not enforce their ideology; the second one includes those who can't help but enforce their views on everyone around.

I can easily get along with the first type. I respect their views and I never eat meat if they can watch I'm eating and they never talk about  "poor animals which get slaughtered by evil humans".

And with the second type ... Well, we are not friends anymore.

Someone that don't eat meat is just an hippie. And hippies are like faggots : unnaturals !  And as you know, everything that is unnatural need to be cleaned... Maybe you'll tell I'm hard, but go tell to the fox that he has no right to eat rabbits ! That's just ridicule !

i agree with this. and when im not respected on this subject , i think i dont want to be a fool by being forced by a herd of fools so i reject. it is everyones own choice and problem

Yup, thats what my cat did when he got into a fight and got wounded in his neck (it was pretty nasty) and when I was gonna take to the vet he left house for a week.
And then i saw him eating some grass next to our neighbor.

I respect their opinion and belief but also expect that they respect my opinion and that don't try to force people around them to follow their life style or give them ''guilt'' feeling because they are responsible for ''killing animals''.
I don't like such attitude and sometimes they act as some religious sect, pushing their agenda and don't accepting other people's opinions.

Cats eat grass. Yes they do. They are meat eaters, but they eat grass at times for enzymes and phytonutrients. You can vary your diet and still be the kind of being that falls into a specific group... especial if you are a human, and have free will, rather than being controlled by instinct.

I guess the vegans would argue that the animal still gets killed at some point in their life even if free range against their will.  Probably in a period of being in their prime also.  Just saying.  Agree on some of the points for sure.

Currently im mostly a pescetarian fwiw but had a chicken burger a month ago 


So the overall feeling here is that the chart is total horsecrap?

Note that in the diagram, below, humans are almost exactly the same as frugivores. This match is Biblically correct. In the Beginning, God commanded people to eat fruit (tomatoes are fruit). He didn't seem to say anything about vegetables or animals. Yet, after the Great Flood of Noah's day, God told Noah that people can eat animals, as well.

Presently, people's digestive systems are designed to digest fruit or meat best. We can, and should eat various forms of vegetables, grasses, and herbs in small quantities, according to what our individual systems can handle, mostly as digestive tract stimulants, but also for phytonutrients and some trace minerals.

Definitely, if we can find a source of extremely healthy fruits and vegetables, where we don't need the special nutritional help that we get from eating meat, this would be best.

Warning to meat eaters. Eating excessive amounts of meats can be habit forming, and can cause bad health if fruit and vegetables are not consumed, or only consumed in very small quantities. Older adults should be especially wary about consuming large amounts of processed milk.

Funny they skip about the use of our canines? this chart is made for a unwinnable argument again`ts meat lovers.

Vegan can be a delicious meal but im not going to do it for the rest of my life, going vegan doesnt mean your going to be healthy anyways.
so id rather eat both so i can be benefit from the nutrients they give.

Lots of vegans will try and push this argument, that humans are not technically omnivores. It's complicated, but we know that humans have eaten meat for at least 10,000 years (probably much longer) and our physiology points towards us being omnivorous. It seems silly to say we're not omnivorous, because we can digest vegetables and meat (we have the enzymes present in our gut to break down meat). Just because we don't need meat, doesn't mean we are herbivores/frugivores.

Anyway, I've never thought this argument mattered much, because we know that you CAN survive as a vegan (albeit with a little difficulty). And most intelligent vegans will use another, more compelling argument - The reason, they say, that we shouldn't eat meat is because we know that we don't need it, and we also know that animals are suffering as a result of our meat-eating.

Now personally I think most vegans are shooting themselves in the foot when they try and recruit others, by saying that killing animals is morally wrong. This is because most people won't make such a drastic change to their diet (like many people, I love meat too much to give it up).

What they should be doing, is getting people to eat free-range, outdoor reared animals rather than cheap shitty battery animals. This way, everyone wins - The animals don't suffer and have a happy life, the farmers get paid more, and the consumer gets tastier, healthier meat. If every vegan did this instead of trying to guilt trip everyone into giving up meat, there would be more happy animals in the world.

I've seen this chart below been passed around vegan circles saying that we aren't omnivores, any thoughts on the chart since you seem to know some stuff on the matter:

i agree.thinking of being vegan is the beginning of foolness  and being vegan is the complete form of foolness.

we are designed to eat meat, i do feel bad for the farm animals but not bad enough that i'd accept being weak and skinny like plant eaters