What do we benefit in lies in forum - page 2.

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Quote from: 3kpk3 on September 10, 2023, 07:30:07 AM

Which world are you living in op? Liars are everywhere and they usually do whatever it takes to survive in this world. Some of them lie for merit while some others lie for an ego boost.

Easiest way to tell whether anyone is lying about their story or not is by checking their post history carefully.

Many people lie for so many reasons, some cook up stories maybe just to stay relevant and to been seen as a dedicated bitcoiner in the forum. One thing I know is that people will always lie in the forum to gain just their interest from lies, as far as human are concerned their are some who can not do without lies. What I know is that forum members are not dumb, we will be able to fish out whenever we come across stories that are not real by the content of the story.

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Quote from: Mame89 on September 12, 2023, 03:08:14 AM

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In essence, if you ask what are the benefits of the lies they make on forums? none at all.

If lying doesn't bring any benefits, then why do they waste time creating false stories? Everything has a purpose, even true stories, and most of the purpose is the desire to receive merit from others. The same reason why we are often active on this forum and not others is because signature campaigns can be profitable for us. Everything has its purpose, no one has free time to do something without a specific purpose. Our goals on this forum are the same, but everyone has different ways to achieve their goals.

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This forum is large and free for everyone to discuss so it is not surprising that you will find lots of various types of posters, of course it is difficult for us to prevent this. If you really like reading, maybe you can sort out which posts are fictional or real. These two posts are sometimes useful for motivating ourselves, maybe this is a positive thing we can take away.

The negative thing is for those who like to make lying posters so that they give birth to fictional stories, they are not only lying to other people, but they are lying to themselves too. they don't know that lying is a disease, if you keep doing it it will become a habit, once it becomes a habit you will never feel guilty, of course if you keep doing this kind of thing you will be at a loss to yourself. In essence, if you ask what are the benefits of the lies they make on forums? none at all.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on September 10, 2023, 05:01:17 AM

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Yes, actually, many newbies engage in the act of creating a fiction story just to gain merit. In short, let's call them merit hunters because that is what they are, but actually, some stories are not fiction but real stories that are hard to believe because when you hear something that happens to someone about bitcoin or how literate a few people are about bitcoin, you will be surprised and might not believe because I also have a thread that I created on educating and also advising a friend of mine about bitcoin, but many members that discuss it don't believe; some are saying it was just a friction, while some believe my story. Click here to see more

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on September 11, 2023, 05:01:32 AM

I don't worry myself about fake stories on the forum because I always believe that many things are happening in this world today, even if that story is not real, it could have happened to someone in the real life, so just relax and enjoy it.

You don't have to merit any posts if you don't believe in them, it's not a must.

That is the point: fake stories are all over, and by hearing some, you can testify, so I also see no reason that we will be disturbed because most of these stories usually come from newbies that are hunting merit.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on September 10, 2023, 05:01:17 AM

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

Many individuals lie to gain merits because they're finding it difficult to get merit when they tell the truth, they present their stories like they're succeeding from Bitcoin because this will appeal those reading their stories but that doesn't make them successful. The internet is full of individuals pretending to be who they're not and also the forum will be full of them as well because everyone wants to look good on the internet while their life isn't going so well.

When you read a topic that isn't looking real but false like most of the achievement topics and accepting bitcoin in their locality, it's better if we don't post on those thread and allow the OP to be telling himself lies. We can't stop lies on the forum but we can stop encouraging them.

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In some cases, if you look at some posts, it seems that maybe this post is baseless or this post is made with some false dialogue. The reason for lying in the forum may be to increase the rank of one's account. By sharing some false story, many times it is seen that he is getting some merit for that post. However, although some posts are false, most of the posts are about people's real experiences or true events. The difference between truth and falsehood is easy to understand, when a person makes a post with false dialogue, it can be understood by looking at the type of his post. The subject and object of the post are true.

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Quote from: fruktik on September 11, 2023, 01:55:39 AM

Quote from: Bananington on September 10, 2023, 03:19:16 PM

It is evidently so, but what an individual Bitcoin forum member can do from their own end is to be genuine and remember that there are eyes and bots here that know when one is spamming or using A.I generated text. I don't need to stress on the repercussion of such act, but anyone who does so has no interest of learning about BTC in the slightest bit, mostly when the lies told here is not on point or related to what is discussed or related to what the idea of this forum stand to promote.

I find it incredibly annoying that people use artificial intelligence to generate text. Well, sooner or later, this fact will become known. Don't they understand this? What type of head do you need to be in order to use it here?
I have already written more than once that this will lead to a similar situation. There are benefits from AI somewhere, but certainly not in our case. This requires live communication, not machine communication.

I reckon that loads of this depends on the degree of information one has which literally translates to the amount of DYOR been put into considerationby a user.

If one is properly informed about the blockchain space, I see no reason why one will call up the use of AI for a brief live contribution that will make more meaning, even an excerpt is welcomed with a reference tagged.

Telling lies or deploying AI texts and/or comments is highly irrelevant in this forum's growth or sensitisation.

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on September 11, 2023, 04:17:32 PM

You shouldn't be angry, BTW, for what others have been writing around the forum. You may control yourself, not someone else's posts. We know a lot of unnecessary threads have been created on the forum. A few people want to express their thoughts and experiences. Due to freedom of speech here, we can't prevent them. But likely, we can ignore those kinds of users who have been creating bogus threads. Everyone has a Bitcoin story, of course, but it's not necessary to share each story. But keep in mind that from a few stories, newbies would learn a lesson if the story was real and constructive.

Yes, in my opinion too, it would be better for OP to just stay calm and relax if someone makes a post that according to OP is a lie, and of course it would be even better if OP focused on himself because in this forum are moderators who will of course monitor forum member activity.

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I am not so sure why would anybody in this forum would be sharing fictitious story but maybe they just want to be on the limelight using their creativity so as to impress people. As for me, I really don't care since we are all bombarded with fictions anyway everyday. Just look at the entertainment products we are consuming - they are almost all based on fictions and nobody is complaining. Let these people share here the things they want to share...because at the end of the way we are not really that stupid to be hoodwinked easily.

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You've made a lot of posts that are made up like completely fictitious events, many people make up and post false stories like that. I think people who post such fictitious events only do so for merit. I saw a long time ago that many people make up and post various stories about Bitcoin investment with such fictitious events. However, they wrap the story around in a variety of ways so that people who know a lot about Bitcoin can master their skills. But many people post positive and well researched replacements about Bitcoin, and they are really awesome and people can learn a lot from there. If you can craft a story about Bitcoin with good research, it will definitely benefit a person, and it is possible to teach about Bitcoin by doing this kind of research.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on September 10, 2023, 05:01:17 AM

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

You should really be aware at least that we are on a forum and everyone or anyone could really post up whether its real or not and i do agree on some post earlier or responses that they might be doing this just to earn some merit since we know that ranking your account here would really be bringing out some benefit on which it could give out that chance for you to be able to join up some signature campaigns on which it is really just that normal that they would really be aiming on earning merit more. We cant really generally tell or say about such purpose because there are really people who do truly experience those things and since this is a market which it is really that hard to prove out if its real or not then its up to you whether you do believe or not.

It is really indeed sometimes obvious that those stories had been made or said by someone is fake or something that in fiction but it turns out that it do get that kind of recognition basing up on the merits
that had been gained. Well, this is how this forum works and the people around which it isnt really that totally that we could control on what are the things been posted
or on what things in speaking about reaction.

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You shouldn't be angry, BTW, for what others have been writing around the forum. You may control yourself, not someone else's posts. We know a lot of unnecessary threads have been created on the forum. A few people want to express their thoughts and experiences. Due to freedom of speech here, we can't prevent them. But likely, we can ignore those kinds of users who have been creating bogus threads. Everyone has a Bitcoin story, of course, but it's not necessary to share each story. But keep in mind that from a few stories, newbies would learn a lesson if the story was real and constructive.

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Quote from: uneng on September 11, 2023, 01:58:13 PM

We can't stop such testimonies because they are personal and people are free to share them with forum members. Anyway, it's not a big issue. I don't know why it would prejudice someone to hear a fake personal story involving Bitcoin and a random person you don't even know.

The chances are that these fake stories can do more good than bad, since they are motivational, despite being fictional. It's like watching a movie or reading a book: it's still fictional, but you don't feel mad for that reason. It's quite the opposite, as you feel encouraged and entertained.

Exactly, since this is a forum everyone are free to share whatever they like to share only the mods could do anything about it such as delete it since it's part of the rules in the forum to post such threads with informative information and much better based on fact. Fake or not it would really depends on the person on how they would apply it to themselves because if you've been here in the forum for too long maybe you'll get tired of false stories.

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We can't stop such testimonies because they are personal and people are free to share them with forum members. Anyway, it's not a big issue. I don't know why it would prejudice someone to hear a fake personal story involving Bitcoin and a random person you don't even know.

The chances are that these fake stories can do more good than bad, since they are motivational, despite being fictional. It's like watching a movie or reading a book: it's still fictional, but you don't feel mad for that reason. It's quite the opposite, as you feel encouraged and entertained.

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Quote from: hugeblack on September 10, 2023, 06:11:40 AM

The forum allows you the freedom to share your ideas as long as you respect others and do not conflict with bitcointalk rules. So unless the story is completely fictional, you are allowed to share it.
The problem lies in lying and trying to fabricate stories to attract, arouse sympathy, or obtain donations or merits, and sometimes this may be to complete paid posts.
I understand that such posts are not good, but trying to ban them will require us to fully verify them, and sometimes that is difficult, such as the stories that I built my house with Bitcoin or bought my first phone or computer with my posts in this forum.

Just click on ignore and people will stop when no one intract with them

I think that the best thing to do is just to ignore such posts, then concentrate time and energy on the ones that you think are worth your attention. I agree that if you cannot verify with facts that a post is fabricated, then the best thing is to leave it and move on. Despite how we feel that a post might be exaggerated or fabricated, the story may still be true, except you have a valid fact to prove it otherwise.

This is an anonymous forum, and as you have said, the forum allows it's members to share ideas and personal experiences that is related and relevant to bitcoin. So even if I feel that a post is full of lies, i can ignore, report it.

Although I would have loved it if the OP had elaborated more by sharing some examples of fabricated posts.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on September 10, 2023, 05:01:17 AM

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with bitcoin without proven the evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experience's of bitcoins to each other not to give a fake information of what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

In fact, a forum is a place for communication, which is used not only for the exchange of knowledge and experience, but also a place where you can express your opinions and thoughts about various events in the field of cryptocurrencies. Not all discussions are a storehouse of useful knowledge, and often even simple chatter on about bitcoin and other cryptocurrency topics. There is nothing wrong with this; in principle, the forum format implies this and doesn't prohibit it. Regarding some dubious stories told here, I have more than once had suspicions of lies, which, in fact, I expressed in some topics. They are too implausible. Perhaps the benefit for false storytellers is the desire to thereby receive merit from the bitcointalk community. I also don’t like this kind of behavior on the forum and I think that lying is unacceptable purely for ethical and moral reasons. There is nothing good in this kind of misinformation, because some users and forum guests may believe dubious stories. Which, in turn, will form a misconception

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Quote from: cafter on September 11, 2023, 07:22:07 AM

I also think some of them are false stories and achievements, and they get more merits in a single post than many of good contributors to this forum .
maybe they are only some people making multiple accounts and sharing stories like this to earn merit faster or rank up fast and join signature campaigns with multiple accounts and can earn with multiple accounts by signature campaigns .

In a virtual platform, you could be anything or anyone you would want to and that includes creating false images and statements. Now, how could we prevent it? Unfortunately there's no way 'coz we won't be able to easily check if something is true in this forum or not. Best thing to do is to avoid relying with other's statement especially if it is far from the reality or if no proof on those claims. It is okay to consider their thoughts especially those which could be of any help in your end but to completely rely and regret it eventually is something we should avoid. Yes ofcourse they could make up stories depending on their purpose but if it is to get merits, I quite cannot blame them from doing so. Fortunately, those who gives in this forum, are also strict with the quality so it won't always get through with that kind of goal.

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Quote from: Riginac111 on September 10, 2023, 05:01:17 AM

I'm not creating this thread to wrong or offend anyone, because i have read so many post that is like fiction, even though cooperate with system, so many thread in Bitcoin discussion mostly newbies like me do frame a story that is not real in Bitcoin and also said a story of what they achieve in Bitcoin that is not real and present to the public to read and take as real story whereas it's a fiction, I want the reason behind someone given a fiction story to the forum. I want ask a question as an old forum user, is it not prohibited when someone discussed something that is not contrary to bitcoin education in this board.

Instead of formulating what is not real to write, it's better to make research of bitcoin and educate others through your research, some people make some posts without making it to be informative, some gives testimonies of their achievement with Bitcoin without proven evidence. I think we are to exchange of bitcoin knowledge and share experiences of Bitcoins with each other not to give fake information about what Bitcoin has done to you without evidence.

I mean we can't do anything about that if someone wanted to lie about something we can't do about it, they can lie all they want but I dont see how they are going to benefit from that. I guess there are some with the intentions of getting merits, since most of the posts about being successful or achievement could probably earn a good amount of merits, For sure it wasn't really that worth it I mean you can't lie everytime about something and most of the members are gonna smell that something is fishy if he always lies about something and for sure this post should at least have evidence as well of there achievement. I just doesnt see the point if they are going to continue lying about something just to make a single post.

There was no obligation here since merits are subjective you could merit anyone if you feel like it, I guess all we can do is avoid meriting this kind of post since it doesnt have some kind of knowledge unless they share their experiences and knowledge at the same time of the post, with that I guess it's already worthy of a single merit at least.

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They are many things I have been benefits here in these forum, including merits to rank up in Bitcoin profile rank up
from newbie to Jr. Member, which is one day I will become Senior member, secondly the forum share or Post a relevant information with a proof and since ever find my self here in forum I have been learning new things with other people idea contribution on a post.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on September 11, 2023, 03:28:18 AM

They make up stories to gain sympathy and everyone’s attention I guess. Some do this to get merits for their amazing and inspirational stories. I don’t judge whether these stories are real or fake, I just enjoy them and believes them. As long as Bitcoins are associated, I find it very interesting to read about these stories and their life lessons that they got from Bitcoins. I know those stories might not be completely true, but the satisfaction that you get when someone says “My dream came true due to Bitcoins “ excites me a lot.

We may be able to judge which stories are fake and true from someone on the forum, but even so, we also ultimately don't know the true reality, because maybe the person behind it is not good at putting together stories, and he is reluctant to show himself to make people here believe in their achievements with bitcoin, it is subjective, whether it is wanting to get attention or whatever, only that person knows the purpose of making a post.
But it's true, I personally really like people who attribute their success to bitcoin, somehow that's much more motivating and interesting, even though I don't know the reality.

Quote from: bayu7adi on September 11, 2023, 03:59:45 AM

It's possible that they are seeking attention. It is true that sometimes people try to make something overly appealing to read and respond to, but I believe engaging with these false narratives adds no value.

Some engaging stories might be more compelling if the thread creator provides evidence as well, such as censored balance screenshots or photos that prove the authenticity of the subjects and objects being described.

Honestly, my respect diminishes slightly when I read a thread recounting a personal experience that appears to be fake.

Yes, that might be the other side, and this is subjective, what you say is true, useful or not, it seems there are some people who use it to fulfill their posting quota, there is a correlation of usefulness even though the story seems made up in cases like that.

It is indeed very beautiful if what he tells is like the evidence he attached to his post, but maybe there are other thoughts, people's level of success is different, including in their achievements after getting to know bitcoin, maybe they are afraid that what they get from bitcoin is of small value in the eyes of people on this forum, thus making him insulted.

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