Topic: What do we benefit in lies in forum - page 5. (Read 691 times)

Well, this forum is considered as a haven for everyone who seeks to learn about all the information regarding cryptocurrencies. Unfortunately, some abuse this freedom by providing fake stories/information who ultimately deceives everyone. From this point, it is now the responsibility of the person to at least understand and depict which stories to believe or not.

Personally, lots of users have been faking their claims in order to fish for "merit" for them to rank-up. I just hope that every person should be held accountable for all of their statements in order to prevent any form of abuse and deception as it goes contrary on why the forum was created in the first place.

I don't even give credits to such low effort post and topics as merely looking at them you could connotes the simple action towards the composition of those topics which I say no to types of topic, but whenever the open seems to be real or trying to use their selves as a case study then we can it's a personal experience gained from whatever lesson they might have learnt subsequently.

I can easily gets those real posters and fake people trying to impressed the people around here while they are going worst in their own way of creating superstitious stories.

It's easier to lie online and get away with it. Any thread that centers on things regarding money, bragging or show off most a times tends to be lies. But how can we verify this? That's the problem. The only way out is to avoid such threads and move ahead to read relevant discussion that'll worth your time. The story you reffered to above might be complicated, in either to believe it or not. Yet its attributed to lack of contents to share in the forum. Because such serious problems shouldn't require an uncalculated question; if the Op's friend should sell their bitcoin. That's not pure, since nobody will joke with the lives of their loved ones because of bitcoin. So, if a reader is in doubt of a thread, they can try to verify or ignore it.

You have made a good topic here, as many members are telling lies and creating fictional stories just to get some attention and, of course, merit. That's why we only see such posts or topics coming from newbies. Why legendary members do not create such fictional stories? In my time here, I also read some, and one of the most strange stories was the following:

I was not able to find the link, but the context was that OP's neighbor's daughter was kidnapped, and the kidnappers asked for payment in BTC, and OP was asking whether his neighbor should sell his BTC or not. I mean, what! Many people at that time indicated that it was a fictional story, but such stories are sometimes hard to forget and leave some sad impact too. I mean, what if the OP is telling the truth, but still, I and many others think that's also a fictional story?

We all should really avoid it. If we really want to gain some trust, we cannot get it from anyone, either in BTT or in real life. We cannot earn trust by telling lies. That truth will be temporary, so please, all newbies should avoid it.

Without even fabricating your own story, without even giving some threads a second reading, and without even digging deep into some threads, you can tell that the whole story is fiction from the beginning. I also view things from the OP's point of view.
 
I have read so many posts like that in the forum that most times I don't even have to comment on them; I just have to look at them and pass them by. That is why most times I tell the OP's face that they are all fabricated stories.
 
One thing that baffles me most times is what they think of the reader sometimes. Is it that they think people in this forum have a little level of reasoning that we can just swallow whatever anyone comes up with without any single doubt? Because some of the stories I read around here, the OPs don't even give it any effort to make it appear real. At least if the story is not real, we can applaud the OP for a nice storyline.
 
Most times, I don't really think the stories formulated by the OP are only for merit fishing alone, like others might have pointed out. Sometimes they use their stories to indirectly promote their beliefs, promote other projects, or advertise their side business, whatever gives them enough reason to come up with any kind of story.

Your point is valid! Why tell tales when there are so many Bitcoin adventures? Some may use the forum as their stage, telling stories taller than Bitcoin price increases. Is it the digital age's allure? Stories are fluid like digital currencies today. Anonymity makes it simple to become lost in the story. Please lead this ship back to authenticity. How about a "Fact-check" badge or "Community Verified" stamp? It will highlight real sharers and help beginners traverse crypto's perilous waters.

Apart from merit fishing I think some of them fabricate the  stories to attract the attention of readers to commend and congratulate them for a job well done since the stories are in connection with the importance and usefulness of bitcoin and it's promotion.

Most of the threads no longer  get merits  because most forum most members has discovered their new tricks of getting attention so they will rather advice them to stop spreading fake stores.

I think there isn’t any prohibition against it, ideally it would have been moved to off topics but with the inclusion of the word bitcoin in this stories it is left on this board. The moderators might miss some of them because they can’t possibly be reading everything on the forum. So as someone who wants the board and the forum entirely to be clean you could just report some of these posts and the moderators will look at them and decide maybe it should moved.


Other members have actually seen some of these posts as merit fishing posts and I agree with them because most newbies might have seen threads and  how in the past merit were distributed to them and as such they wish to follow same route to see if they would get there’s. Recently the lack of merit distributed to such threads has actually reduce the number of such posts which actually makes it obvious that some were certainly for fishing of merits

Also I would advice that you shouldn’t be worried about such post and if you notice that a user persists then you can ignore such member if you feel uncomfortable with there posts

As you said especially "newbies" it's either they are telling the truth cause they might have the experience but only new in the forum and they are posting such story so they could get merits. If you are just a newbie and you've read such a positive story, of course it would have a great affect to you that could motivates you to pursue this industry but if you are an old member of the forum you could already tell the truth and the fake by just providing proofs and based on facts information. Some people also love new topics since they would have a new discussion especially the people in the signature campaign which they have to post informative interaction with people. Still the best to interact is when it is actually real.

It's not possible eliminating such stories in the forum and as unpleasant as they might be to us we can assert that a host of these fiction stories breed discussions in the forum which in the process generate real life discussions from members comments as the discussion builds up.
 Without forensic we can't decide for sure that a particular story is fiction because not all those stories that may be classified as fiction might end up been cooked up stories.

Just like in the movie industry where we have fictional stories framed up to make  a movie with fascinating characters but being fiction  doesn't mean they don't send informative message same goes with some of those fictional stories created in the forum.

The important thing is to pick whatever information you can get from those fictive stories that might be of value to you, if there's nothing there for you then ignoring them would be a great option.

why do you think that people sharing their story and success in bitcoin ia not real? have you know the personal life of each member whose sharing story here? you are thinking that because of your understanding and without any proof how can we say that they are sharing fake story?

This forum is open for everyone until one not break the necessary rules, you will see many scammers also just with negative trust and still not banned for posting. I am not agree that just because of our doubt we say that someone should be prohibited. First we assume for reality and suppose if newbie are sharing false story then it is place of learning and we will try to gives our opinion on thats case.

The question to be asked are as followed;
1. How did you know they are fiction?
2. Have you tried to also formulation your own stories and you were caught?
3. Was your stories not convincisible enough?
4. Did you create any and you weren't give credits to it?
5. Did you in anyway go their various ways in community (Countries Precisely) to know if they are telling the fake story?

There where more questions i would have loved to asked you but lemme rest it all above.


I think this completely gives the best answers to op's post..
The time spent in phising out fake post why not use those time to share his or her own stories instead of busy looking for fake stories.

That's what the above users already answer to your question, click ignore in the profile that you think is a liar.

What do you think those people can give you benefit? let's imagine if those story are real e.g. Bitcoin save the poor, accepting Bitcoin as a currency in their store despite their country not yet accept it, teaching people to understand and adopt Bitcoin etc.

What's the difference if those story are real or fake if we talk about the benefit you can earn?

Even though liars are being doing it for personal greediness that does not mean that they make any other person to emulate them, what we should be learning in the forum is something that is meaning and something that will educate us also, maybe so people have gotten the reason some people can lie, me giving false information to fish a merit is inappropriate and it will not benefits me anything because is it's not real, maybe since forum accept any other person opinion, that means that everyone will be giving informations that lacks reasoning and can not be transparent to another

In addition to being a hub for exchanging knowledge and discussing topics like cryptocurrency and economics. Besides, the forum also has the function of making money and many people are doing everything they can to gain people's trust and take "merit" to serve their money-making work. Therefore, you should not be surprised when there are many people who flatter or write novels to please certain people to achieve their goals. Much like a microcosm of society, the forum houses factions and groups engaged in fierce competition and battles, each striving for personal victory. You should get used to everything if you want to survive here.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with op, there are indeed several stories people share on this forum generally, not just on this Bitcoin discussion board, that are nothing but pure fiction, many have done this for several years using it to amass a lot of merits for themselves, and personally, I think merit fishing is the sole purpose why most of those who created fake stories do so here..

There was a time when a day won't pass without seeing a thread of someone claiming to be teaching people about Bitcoin either in school or some other places, and such thread do amass a lot of merits for the creator of the thread, though small percentage of this stories were indeed true, but most of it were lies and nothing but lies , but then, what can we really do?, if you try to ask the creator of such thread to post evidence, it will look as if you are envious of him or her and a hate, so the best one can do is to either just ignore, or put up a comment acting like you believe the op and in support of what ever him or her claim to be doing..

Anyways, I am not surprised, on a forum like this where the higher your rank, the more you are open to several monetary opportunities, rest assured many will do what ever it takes them to rank up, even if it means cheating, posting fake stories every day, as long as someone believe them and merit the post.

It is useful for all storytellers to know that if you are creating a profile of a successful person who has his own business, which is paid in Bitcoins, or any achievements that could be boasted here, you should not deviate from your role. We are all on the Internet, and everyone can, if he suddenly wants, introduce himself as anyone. But at the same time, how often are newcomers here disgraced, declaring today a cool business, although yesterday he wrote that he doesn’t know a damn thing about Bitcoin?
Not only does the Internet remember everything, but the forum is also very good at archiving posts, and sometimes the travel story of a storyteller on the forum goes beyond all boundaries of lies, which ultimately affects the user’s reputation.
You shouldn’t treat those present here as people who don’t know how to read; vivid stories are remembered, and then, most often, you want to know more about the writer.
Therefore, if you want to play a fairy-tale millionaire, match it with both knowledge and posts.

Which world are you living in op? Liars are everywhere and they usually do whatever it takes to survive in this world. Some of them lie for merit while some others lie for an ego boost.

Easiest way to tell whether anyone is lying about their story or not is by checking their post history carefully.

I'm also thinking with the same reason. This kind of post typhically get atleast one merit if the story is real good even if it's obviously fictional. I don't hate this kind of things or iritates me, sometimes it's quite entrtaining to read some newbie stories. There are just stories that are quite repetitive which makes it boring and makes us think it's a made up story.

Should we demand for proofs of their story or atleast demand a disclaimer that it's a fictional story that they want to portray?

It depends a lot on the topic.
Some are wrong because they were misled or have been believing others' lies.
Some have their own agenda.
Some want to see how many people they can fool/want to feel smart by insulting our intelligence.
And yes, some are merit fishing.

Probably I've even missed some categories.

OP, keep in mind that the forum is like in real life: not everyone deserves your time. Use the ignore feature well.