What does it take for a game to "hook" people - page 9.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 04:26:00 AM

Quote from: acener on July 16, 2021, 04:22:00 PM

For me I got hook on gambling games when it is fun, thrilling and exciting.
Come on it isn't just the profit sometimes it is also the feeling of those excitement and fun when gambling.
And also there are times that the environment would also affect it for example lively community where gamblers enjoy to have a little chat with other gamblers.
Those are the ones some of us consider when searching for a site to gamble.

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

This is correct, when you are gambling online you are the one that is in perfect control as you have complete authority over your environment and the online casino only has a limited control over you, but in a physical casino this is different, every single thing is under their control, this is why people lose a lot more money in physical casinos than in online casinos as they lose control and everything is against them if they try to make any attempt to regain it.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on July 16, 2021, 05:35:46 PM

I read up some of factors which its not likely been mentioned on this thread.

Uncertainty as its own reward in the brain
Lights and sounds egg you on
Feeling like a winner while you’re losing
Almost: Near-miss effect and chasing your losses
Gambling and its games

Source: https://theconversation.com/designed-to-deceive-how-gambling-distorts-reality-and-hooks-your-brain-91052

Majority of this is on offline casinos.

Instead of getting us same sub-titles, you would have better shared your own opinion about the topic and at the end shared the link. The article you linked by the way, is about how gambling creates its place in our brain and how we start getting hooked by gambling in general while this topic is about what games hook players and why.

Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 04:26:00 AM

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

That's right and also the reason why despite online casinos evolving so much but still have to operate at a much lower house edge and still doesn't attract the same number of players as an online casino does. The real experience of gambling actually lies in offline casinos but because of the pandemic and all the recent problems, we are slowly watching the trend change from offline to online.

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Quote from: robelneo on July 19, 2021, 05:30:13 AM

When you have a hard time leaving the casinos and always want to get back there, that's the start of gambling addiction.

And if you keep thinking of it, that's one of the signs that you're actually into gambling and you're becoming addicted to it. They all add up to the cause of your addiction and becoming addicted to it.

Quote from: acener on July 16, 2021, 04:22:00 PM

For me I got hook on gambling games when it is fun, thrilling and exciting.

How about when you're winning with most of your bets? there's money and that adds to the fun.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 04:26:00 AM

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

Of course, offline casinos have a very different feel, casinos offer a lot of perks just so you can stay longer in their casinos, they offer free drinks, free foods, free lounge, and free entertainment, you have heard and read stories of people who stay in casinos for days because they enjoy the atmosphere, every day you have a new experience.

When you have a hard time leaving the casinos and always want to get back there, that's the start of gambling addiction.

I agree.

But of course it's not literally "free" you have to pay a certain amount of price before you could enter or play in a certain casino, if I'm not mistaken, you need to be a member for you to have those kind of perks that you mentioned. The only thing I don't like about offline casinos is that they don't care if players would smoke and drink at the same time, no healthy precautions at all, so unfair to those players that are not smoking.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 04:26:00 AM

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

Of course, offline casinos have a very different feel, casinos offer a lot of perks just so you can stay longer in their casinos, they offer free drinks, free foods, free lounge, and free entertainment, you have heard and read stories of people who stay in casinos for days because they enjoy the atmosphere, every day you have a new experience.

When you have a hard time leaving the casinos and always want to get back there, that's the start of gambling addiction.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 04:26:00 AM

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

People who play in physical casinos and people who gamble on online casinos are not different type of people, it is just that not many of us have legal casinos around us, if I want to gamble in a casino I have to move to a whole another nation, spend about 2-3 hours for both going to airport, then fly to other nation, then drive to casino from that airport, that is just reaching there, it is usually a multi day vacation type of thing.

So, should I not even gamble at all right now just because I am not close to a casino? Should I stop gambling all together and not look at online places that I can gamble at home? I do love the physical casinos, but that doesn't change the fact that I have to gamble online if I want to when I am at home, the best I can do is once a year for physical one whereas I can gamble at home every single day, it is just a whole another beast.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on July 16, 2021, 12:24:26 PM

It really based on what most people like about video games. Some may think that FPS videogames are good even if the graphics are jot that good as long as the story line is very good or very convincing to know the next event that will happen. Some wantes a videogames that provides good graphics, good storyline, many people like/love the game. Some people wanted a game that made you think a strategy you want to use to defeat the enemy.

Actually paxmao already talked about video games in OP and we are trying to discuss the casino games like slots, dice,etc instead of multiplayer games.

I personally feel that different games attract different gamblers and that's why you would see someone playing a particular game more than other games, that's because not everyone has the same liking and feeling about the game.

Since we have touched the multiplayer gaming thing, some players will like an assault rifle while some like AWP in Counter-Strike so it all depends on the gambler similarly what they like and suits them.

I like any casino game or slots that doesn't has too many flashy themes and all that, a simple game is better for me.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.

I believe games are already out there so I do not know if there could be a correct answer aside from "many people do play it" and nothing more. Surely you pick your own poison but they are out there, there is nothing new, you give it a try for each of them and play them a bit and then you find the one you like so much and continue to gamble with that.

Video games also do not require a great design or anything like that, I have seen a ton of text based games that got a ton of attention as well, as long as it is "good" people will be hooked, it is not just about one aspect of it being good it is about all of it feeling fun for people. Look at stardew valley it has 8bit graphics that is probably 20+ years old by now and it sold insane amount of copies because it is a great and fun game.

There isn't anything that is so challenging for it neither, it is quite simple, probably the simplest game I have seen while having very old design, and yet it is still fun. Same goes for gambling, as long as it is fun nobody cares about anything else.

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Quote from: acener on July 16, 2021, 04:22:00 PM

For me I got hook on gambling games when it is fun, thrilling and exciting.
Come on it isn't just the profit sometimes it is also the feeling of those excitement and fun when gambling.
And also there are times that the environment would also affect it for example lively community where gamblers enjoy to have a little chat with other gamblers.
Those are the ones some of us consider when searching for a site to gamble.

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

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I read up some of factors which its not likely been mentioned on this thread.

Uncertainty as its own reward in the brain
Lights and sounds egg you on
Feeling like a winner while you’re losing
Almost: Near-miss effect and chasing your losses
Gambling and its games

Source: https://theconversation.com/designed-to-deceive-how-gambling-distorts-reality-and-hooks-your-brain-91052

Majority of this is on offline casinos.

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For me I got hook on gambling games when it is fun, thrilling and exciting.
Come on it isn't just the profit sometimes it is also the feeling of those excitement and fun when gambling.
And also there are times that the environment would also affect it for example lively community where gamblers enjoy to have a little chat with other gamblers.
Those are the ones some of us consider when searching for a site to gamble.

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Quote from: bakasabo on July 13, 2021, 03:12:23 PM

I think that emotions are the thing that hook people for a game. The joy, excitement or even stress before winning are what people seek. In rare times when I gamble, I seek for "Aaahhhh!" moment in every game. For example in popular game such as mines music plays that "Aaahhh!" moment, when it makes a little pause before opening a new tile. Or on plinko, I like how I just got hypnotized when lots of balls fall down and I try to predict where each ball will go.

You are not wrong however if the reason we like to gamble is that adrenaline rush that we feel when we win or the letdown we feel when we lose then that is a dangerous path as this could lead to a gambling pattern in which you begin to bet more and more in order to achieve this effect, which as we know it could lead to losing more money than what you wanted, which leads you to chase your losses and suddenly you find yourself trapped in a pattern from which it is difficult to escape.

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It really based on what most people like about video games. Some may think that FPS videogames are good even if the graphics are jot that good as long as the story line is very good or very convincing to know the next event that will happen. Some wantes a videogames that provides good graphics, good storyline, many people like/love the game. Some people wanted a game that made you think a strategy you want to use to defeat the enemy.

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For me to get hooked up to a game that game has to offer a lot otherwise it will not engage for me a lot of time.The game that hooks me the most is Swords and the Holy Grail slot machine from Play n Go provider and the reasons I am listing below:

1.Good medieval music
2.Good medieval theme/graphics
3.Really good hit frequency
4.Progressive bonus round
5.Awesome bonus round frequency,once every 137 Spin in average (it can go up to 350 spins without falling though)

The sixth point is what many of us love but is not part of this game.
6.Progressive jackpot

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Reward is the hooking factor casino games, casino has more deering players that can't cope with failure and loss after much boast. There are different psychological play that differs with age, financial status, education and games accessibility.

And out from continuous and regular losing, a casino player wants to have a shortcut on how to chase losses.

They will now found a casino that offers the best of the best promotions compare to usual and will try their best there hoping for a comeback.

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Quote from: lienfaye on July 14, 2021, 01:36:18 AM

Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

What do these games have to have for you?

For me its a must that the game is not boring, easy to play and of course there's a chance to win. The fact that you can double your money in snap is attractive because its effortless though not easy (we all know most games are based on luck). Crypto casinos became popular especially during lockdown as an alternative to satisfy ourselves. I think the good thing about playing online is the convenience that even we're lying in the bed, we can still access the game as long as we have a gadget.

I think it is all about the overall experience as a whole. Of course, the experience varies between an online casino vs a physical one but it all boils down on one's preference.

Personally, what got me 'hooked' into gambling was the nature of the gambling from the very start. The game that I played involved in-game skins (Dota 2) where you can bet them and from there, my inner addiction to gambling awoken. In addition to what you have mentioned, the interface of the gambling website plays a vital role into hooking people especially if it is easier to navigate in the website.

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Quote from: Genemind on July 06, 2021, 11:24:31 PM

I guess casino games and rpg games have their different factprs for hooking people. I've played several RPG games and it seems that unique game mechanics, design, grinding and luck maoes people being hooked to it. Most people spend their time playing games where they can loot rare items while grinding. Games with ranking makes it competitive, all gamers are competitive only few play for fun. They want to be on top and they want to own items as exclusive and rare as it could be.

Reward is the hooking factor casino games, casino has more deering players that can't cope with failure and loss after much boast. There are different psychological play that differs with age, financial status, education and games accessibility. So time with such games build the addiction

Addiction would be mold up if you arent really that good on controlling up yourself towards gambling and its true that several factors would really be mainly affecting things mainly on financial status.
Reward system is a common or typical thing for casinos to look upon since this is the main tool on hooking up people to stay up into their site or place where it might really look to be some advantage
but if you do really mind of with the terms then you would surely realize that its really impossible on beating up the house in long term unless if you are really extremely
lucky then there would be some exclusions in some point or situations.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on July 15, 2021, 03:43:36 AM

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If we are talking about what's hooking people to this or that kind of gambling game, then yes, very low house edge can be one of the attractions. But if you play for fun, and you are not planning to constantly make money on gambling, the difference between 1% and 0.5% shouldn't bother you at all, because you will hardly notice it unless you play millions of games. And yes you can lose everything even with 0% HE, why not? Nobody's guaranteed to win a coin flip, after all.

I'm one of those people who gamble for entertainment, so the very low house edge doesn't really interest me. Except for people who are obsessed
with making money when playing gambling, the very low house edge will attract attention to them. Despite the fact that there is no effective strategy
in gambling, whatever strategy we use can make us lose a lot of money if we gamble excessively. So gamblers playing 0% house edge can lose
a lot of money too, as long as gamblers can't limit themselves when playing gambling.

Gamblers hate to lose. It doesn't matter if you are playing for fun or for money, in the end, everybody wants to win. Yeah if the question is "hooking" which means only attract existing gamblers to try, then yes, low HE can work, especially for "making money" dudes. But there is nothing to keep them engage when losing, so they can easily leave the game (FYI there are more losers than winners).

If hooking people also includes "repeat order" then there have to be methods to entertain losers. It can be via graphic/animation, gameplay, intermediate wins, etc.

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Quote from: batako on July 14, 2021, 05:50:40 AM

Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

The game that caught my attention are the games that of course proved to be fair, and had a good multiplier range, eg up to 1 million times. An attractive design but not necessarily with heavy graphics. And one more thing, roll speed that doesn't disappoint (fast and smooth).

The roll speed is one thing that can hook a gambler to stay and enjoy the game because they do not get any delay and if they feel that can satisfy them, it will drag them to play longer.
I think the multiplier range in gambling sites is almost the same, so that can still make us not think about that, but maybe you like that.
The bonus can hook a gambler back again in the next few days because sometimes, the casino can surprise them by sending an invitation email to them.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 15, 2021, 03:18:24 AM

Quote from: mu_enrico on July 13, 2021, 10:43:15 AM

Quote from: hahay on July 13, 2021, 10:31:30 AM

0% house edge

The thing is, there are losers even if gamblers play 0% HE games. The 0% HE only moves the gambling nature from negative-sum into zero-sum. Losers will get more pain because they lost the money playing shitty games. They will not come back if the game is really crap.

If we are talking about what's hooking people to this or that kind of gambling game, then yes, very low house edge can be one of the attractions. But if you play for fun, and you are not planning to constantly make money on gambling, the difference between 1% and 0.5% shouldn't bother you at all, because you will hardly notice it unless you play millions of games. And yes you can lose everything even with 0% HE, why not? Nobody's guaranteed to win a coin flip, after all.

I'm one of those people who gamble for entertainment, so the very low house edge doesn't really interest me. Except for people who are obsessed
with making money when playing gambling, the very low house edge will attract attention to them. Despite the fact that there is no effective strategy
in gambling, whatever strategy we use can make us lose a lot of money if we gamble excessively. So gamblers playing 0% house edge can lose
a lot of money too, as long as gamblers can't limit themselves when playing gambling.

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