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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

It depends on what kind of players you are if you are playing for money, then reputation is very important, are you going to play on a gambling site with a bad reputation but with a well design graphic or on a gambling site or with minimal design but always pays their players on time I prefer the latter than the former, one example is 1XBIT it has a good design but there are so many complaints.

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There are a lot of different preferences regarding getting more customers if it's on the video games such as slot games of course if you want to get more players mostly they are using animations to make more fun the game, also their boost reward like the headstart offer so they can get already a multiplier and having a higher chance of winning lastly additional is the design depends on the game some slot games there's a lewd imaginations still depends on the theme of the game and the player's preferences.

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Quote from: michellee on August 06, 2021, 08:41:03 PM

Between that small fish, there will be the whales but the casino owner will not know who is the whales on his casino. When the casino owner can have thousands of members, that doesn't mean all members will be small fish. The percentage of the whales on that casino will not be too many but that is worth it if they still give them comfortable playing many games and give the best services to them.

The casino owner will likely have more members, no matter if they are small fish or whales because if the casino owner can give the best services, sooner or later, the whales will show up to them and play using the big money that was already before.

But what the casino wants is addicted people to gambling who will gamble on their site day by day and of course, they will use so much money to gamble. These members will enjoy on that site and playing many games and if there are new games, they will play longer than the other, especially if they like the games.

The reason gambling sites do promotions as attractive as possible and provide the best service, this is done to attract the attention of many people.
So that many people come to play, gambling site owners sometimes spend quite a lot of money on promotion costs. It was done to attract
whales, because as you said from many people who join gambling sites, there must be some whales that will join in as well. The problem is
that it is not easy to detect the presence of whales, unless the whales are comfortable playing on the gambling site and finally make a very large
deposit. It would be even better if eventually there were whales who were addicted and spent a lot of money on the gambling site.

This is why many gambling site owners do various ways to make their platforms popular, and provide the best service to its users. That is to
make gamblers comfortable and not think about moving to other gambling sites, especially if the gambling site manages to get whales on their
platform, it is a jackpot for gambling site owners.

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Quote from: michellee on August 06, 2021, 05:36:16 AM

Maybe that gambling site needs to improve their game, interface, or bonuses, something like that, to attract more customers. I guess that will work to get more attention from them so the number of visitors on their site can grow. Yes, I admitted that every gambling site wants to get as many members as possible because that will make them make much profit and grow to be the top of gambling sites among the other sites. But that needs time and constantly update their site to gain that thing.

I think it is not just about being crowded, I rather have 10 whales gambling on my website than a million small fish. Obviously the more people you have on your casino that means there is a good chance that you could end up with a lot more chance to get whales as well.

However since we do not have any sort of method to only get whales, people (casino owners) usually focus on getting as many as possible with hopes that many whales will come that way as well. Once again, this is not because they want a million people, sure that is a good thing as well but if none of them are whales then it is not a good thing, only good if you are brand new casino.

A place like stake for example do not need a thousand new gamblers who will not gamble even 10k a month, they would rather have a guy who bets 10k per bet, this is a fact and I am sure of it (did marketing for 2 casinos in my life). So, the "hook" is basically stuff that attracts whale customers.

Between that small fish, there will be the whales but the casino owner will not know who is the whales on his casino. When the casino owner can have thousands of members, that doesn't mean all members will be small fish. The percentage of the whales on that casino will not be too many but that is worth it if they still give them comfortable playing many games and give the best services to them.

The casino owner will likely have more members, no matter if they are small fish or whales because if the casino owner can give the best services, sooner or later, the whales will show up to them and play using the big money that was already before.

But what the casino wants is addicted people to gambling who will gamble on their site day by day and of course, they will use so much money to gamble. These members will enjoy on that site and playing many games and if there are new games, they will play longer than the other, especially if they like the games.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 03:46:41 PM

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

I would call such games as dice and slots boring not only in term of graphic. They're boring in any kind of activity and entertainment. But yeah, in mass people like them very much. In mass, people are not so clever to play something more complicated so they ignore it. Situation the same in any kind of gambling. In 19th century the most popular was 5 card poker, but now it's all about Hold'Em because the last one less complicated and people more stupid than they was 200 years ago.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 03:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

Not all are like that but there's truth with what you've said that we look to the games and with less knowledge and research, we're wanting to play as soon as we're able to see it.
The graphical reason is also part of why people are being hooked so that's the graphics and as well as the simplicity yet there are those that who would still choose those skill required games.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 03:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

^ I don't think if that is all about simplicity, but the thing the comes up in my mind is that all about the promotions and events that have a free airdrop that could able the gambler play for a while. I noticed that here in bitcointalk forum if you are a gambling site owner that has a promotion, giveaways, or event such as tournaments will most likely people will hook and not just because purely on the game. Games like beating the house edge or those based on luck games are also considered as one people got hooked into that game.

Agree with you, simplicity is only good if the website is already established, but even the most popular websites, still run a lot of promotions as they continue to compete with a very competitive market, and this benefits the gamblers as they have a lot of option on where to gamble. Whether the site offers a lot of promotion or not, it still depends on the gamblers as there are gamblers who are easily hook and the sad truth is that some of them can easily get addicted as well.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 03:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

^ I don't think if that is all about simplicity, but the thing the comes up in my mind is that all about the promotions and events that have a free airdrop that could able the gambler play for a while. I noticed that here in bitcointalk forum if you are a gambling site owner that has a promotion, giveaways, or event such as tournaments will most likely people will hook and not just because purely on the game. Games like beating the house edge or those based on luck games are also considered as one people got hooked into that game.

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I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

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Quote from: michellee on August 06, 2021, 05:36:16 AM

Maybe that gambling site needs to improve their game, interface, or bonuses, something like that, to attract more customers. I guess that will work to get more attention from them so the number of visitors on their site can grow. Yes, I admitted that every gambling site wants to get as many members as possible because that will make them make much profit and grow to be the top of gambling sites among the other sites. But that needs time and constantly update their site to gain that thing.

I think it is not just about being crowded, I rather have 10 whales gambling on my website than a million small fish. Obviously the more people you have on your casino that means there is a good chance that you could end up with a lot more chance to get whales as well.

However since we do not have any sort of method to only get whales, people (casino owners) usually focus on getting as many as possible with hopes that many whales will come that way as well. Once again, this is not because they want a million people, sure that is a good thing as well but if none of them are whales then it is not a good thing, only good if you are brand new casino.

A place like stake for example do not need a thousand new gamblers who will not gamble even 10k a month, they would rather have a guy who bets 10k per bet, this is a fact and I am sure of it (did marketing for 2 casinos in my life). So, the "hook" is basically stuff that attracts whale customers.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on July 31, 2021, 06:45:21 AM

For me first of all is the gameplay, if you enjoy the gameplay of course there's no way you would be hooked for that particular game just like bomb sweeper like game, I don't know but I do like that game for unknown reason, probably because there's thrill and you are the one to choose your destiny? The next one of course is the prize, the higher the prize the more people will be hooked for that game and lastly promotion, this is the powerful one I think. Who doesn't like promotion? but of course with low wagering requirement.

Enjoying the games will be one thing that can hook gamblers back to the casino more often than they can realize. It feels like when we play games or do something too often, and if we do not do that, something is gone from us. Yes, the thrill will be there inside the games and that makes us always curious about the games and finally, in the long run, that can make us addicted to that games. If the casino can update many times and always try to be the best casino, that will hook people to stay at that site since they find a new thing that they do not get from the other site.

Games offered and bonuses will be the primary things that will hook up players and make them stay to play on the site or gambling place.This is something which is hard to attain

considering that gambling industry does have fierce competition and it is something that gambling owners should really think off the best way for them to retain their players

and would able to make revenue on longer runs or duration. Games should be catchy and same goes with the design too.

Maybe that gambling site needs to improve their game, interface, or bonuses, something like that, to attract more customers. I guess that will work to get more attention from them so the number of visitors on their site can grow. Yes, I admitted that every gambling site wants to get as many members as possible because that will make them make much profit and grow to be the top of gambling sites among the other sites. But that needs time and constantly update their site to gain that thing.

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Quote from: STT on August 05, 2021, 07:01:52 PM

I only return to a game if I like or feel like I understand it, part of the hook to any gameplay will be the winnings and nature of how the game delivers that performance back to you. Its probably a really important of the game design and how successful it is with customers, I think alot of people like the mad streak multiplier effects where it can string together into a bigger win. For me something as simple as the music and sound design could be why I like it, this doesn't relate to winnings at all just I don't like games that bug with their noise or if I have to mute it. I quickly lose my affection for the game if I dont like the design sound and graphics tbh, I will likely look for another one.

Yes, noise will certainly disturb concentration but it is different from the sound of music, which of course makes players feel relaxed which makes them comfortable in the game. But for me it's not too important either because I prefer silent mode if I don't use headphones and yes, the main factor that can certainly hook many people is the easy game with eye-catching graphics and of course about the bonuses provided.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

As a gambler trying a new gambling site I'll check the reputation and their trust grade you are putting money and you want to get that money out if you win, you are playing to get entertain and at the same time win money if luck hits you, if you are just playing and don't care about winning money then design and good difficulty grading are worth looking, I've seen gambling site with bland design but still getting a lot of players because of bonus and easiness of cashing out.

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I only return to a game if I like or feel like I understand it, part of the hook to any gameplay will be the winnings and nature of how the game delivers that performance back to you. Its probably a really important of the game design and how successful it is with customers, I think alot of people like the mad streak multiplier effects where it can string together into a bigger win. For me something as simple as the music and sound design could be why I like it, this doesn't relate to winnings at all just I don't like games that bug with their noise or if I have to mute it. I quickly lose my affection for the game if I dont like the design sound and graphics tbh, I will likely look for another one.

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Quote from: michellee on August 05, 2021, 07:01:09 AM

Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on July 31, 2021, 06:45:21 AM

For me first of all is the gameplay, if you enjoy the gameplay of course there's no way you would be hooked for that particular game just like bomb sweeper like game, I don't know but I do like that game for unknown reason, probably because there's thrill and you are the one to choose your destiny? The next one of course is the prize, the higher the prize the more people will be hooked for that game and lastly promotion, this is the powerful one I think. Who doesn't like promotion? but of course with low wagering requirement.

Enjoying the games will be one thing that can hook gamblers back to the casino more often than they can realize. It feels like when we play games or do something too often, and if we do not do that, something is gone from us. Yes, the thrill will be there inside the games and that makes us always curious about the games and finally, in the long run, that can make us addicted to that games. If the casino can update many times and always try to be the best casino, that will hook people to stay at that site since they find a new thing that they do not get from the other site.

Games offered and bonuses will be the primary things that will hook up players and make them stay to play on the site or gambling place.This is something which is hard to attain

considering that gambling industry does have fierce competition and it is something that gambling owners should really think off the best way for them to retain their players

and would able to make revenue on longer runs or duration. Games should be catchy and same goes with the design too.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on July 31, 2021, 06:45:21 AM

For me first of all is the gameplay, if you enjoy the gameplay of course there's no way you would be hooked for that particular game just like bomb sweeper like game, I don't know but I do like that game for unknown reason, probably because there's thrill and you are the one to choose your destiny? The next one of course is the prize, the higher the prize the more people will be hooked for that game and lastly promotion, this is the powerful one I think. Who doesn't like promotion? but of course with low wagering requirement.

Enjoying the games will be one thing that can hook gamblers back to the casino more often than they can realize. It feels like when we play games or do something too often, and if we do not do that, something is gone from us. Yes, the thrill will be there inside the games and that makes us always curious about the games and finally, in the long run, that can make us addicted to that games. If the casino can update many times and always try to be the best casino, that will hook people to stay at that site since they find a new thing that they do not get from the other site.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

The real reason in casino games that hook the people is the simpleness and the reward combination in game. For example, Dice is a very simple game, you just have to roll low or high but at the same time, within a second you get a chance to double your money, to get 100% profit in just a second. This is what hooks people, just see what kind of games are popular: Roulette, BlackJack, Dice, Bustabit, etc... All of them are easiest to play and all of them offer you the great rewards within a seconds.
But there also come games like Poker that hugely depend on your bluff skills and this bluff is what hooks people too (cheat, lies).

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The fact that someone is winning many times in a row all the time does not mean anything. This happens simply due to randomness, some gamblers guess 10 times in a row the color that will appear in the roulette wheel, but this does not mean that they could predict it Wink

Yeah, but ... you know the case: he's definitely getting tips, and that's why he wins. As for the theory that among millions and millions of players there can be several winning all the time - I used to believe in the past that even in poker and sports betting this often the case, but then I changed my mind. In fact, it's very rare.

There is such a widespread fraud (not only in gambling, but also in trading and in other areas where there is forecasting): a fraudster gives opposite clues to many players and continues to give them to those for whom they turned out to be winning, so out of 100 people (for example) there remain 3 who received 5 correct tips in a row. After that, the fraudster demands a payment for the next hint, or makes a hint that will somehow bring profit to the fraudster (for example, buying some shares if we are talking about trading).
Perhaps the OP is getting hints from such a scammer and I would advise him to be as careful as possible.

I suspected something like this from the very beginning. Only it's not OP, it's this guy, @goinmerry, who posted earlier in this thread:

Quote from: goinmerry on July 26, 2021, 03:34:43 AM

~Like in my case, I don't like to bet on online cockfighting, trending gambling here in our region, but since luck is hitting me and able to get a good profit already, I still continue to gamble there up to date. I'm affiliated with a premium group there so we have a tip on who will win.

and after that he never showed up here.

Since we are talking about "What does it take for a game to "hook" people", I think posting about his progress would be relevant here. Now he is definitely "hooked", but it would be interesting to know how those guys made him believe that they are just helping him to earn money.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 31, 2021, 11:39:46 AM

I suppose that those bonuses are in fact good for the casino otherwise they will not give them, it is true that there are people that could try to abuse those bonuses especially in this market in which people do not want to identify themselves as they want to gamble in an anonymous way, but it is unlikely this is going to be a problem because many of those websites are going to use cookies and other technologies to keep track of who has used their services and if they see any suspicious activity then they are going to ban your account.

There will always be those who will try to take advantage of the system. Especially when it comes to free money. I'm sure casinos are well prepared for such situations and have well-developed methods of detecting abusers. It is very unlikely that cheaters will escape detection thanks to cookie tracking, IP logging, browser fingerprinting, and who knows what else.

The free trial or bonus given to beginners to play, are the other ones hooks people. Whom so ever it would be, would make a try for the first play unless and until he has heard of the websites faking or he is an experienced. So the new registered player is always given a chance to win on their first swing which in turn pulls them in mentally to try with case on the second swing or when the free amount gets over. Here one just has to decide if to move further or not after their free trial is over.

The bonuses that the casino gives are without a doubt one of the main attractions for many gamblers, however that only attracts the gambler to that specific casino but it doesn't tell us anything about why the person decided to gamble on the first place and why it keeps doing it, personally I think there are many reasons for this to happen, some people just like the excitement, some people want to get fun, some just want to make money while others are just curious about it and want to try it.

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Quote from: decodx on July 31, 2021, 02:43:29 PM

Quote from: Silberman on July 31, 2021, 11:39:46 AM

I suppose that those bonuses are in fact good for the casino otherwise they will not give them, it is true that there are people that could try to abuse those bonuses especially in this market in which people do not want to identify themselves as they want to gamble in an anonymous way, but it is unlikely this is going to be a problem because many of those websites are going to use cookies and other technologies to keep track of who has used their services and if they see any suspicious activity then they are going to ban your account.

There will always be those who will try to take advantage of the system. Especially when it comes to free money. I'm sure casinos are well prepared for such situations and have well-developed methods of detecting abusers. It is very unlikely that cheaters will escape detection thanks to cookie tracking, IP logging, browser fingerprinting, and who knows what else.

The free trial or bonus given to beginners to play, are the other ones hooks people. Whom so ever it would be, would make a try for the first play unless and until he has heard of the websites faking or he is an experienced. So the new registered player is always given a chance to win on their first swing which in turn pulls them in mentally to try with case on the second swing or when the free amount gets over. Here one just has to decide if to move further or not after their free trial is over.

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