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Quote from: Betwrong on July 20, 2021, 06:15:22 AM

I'm afraid I'm not getting your point. I know you are experienced gambler, and I can't believe you are saying that losing makes people leave the game. I mean, it would be great if it were so, and good-tempered and responsible gamblers are doing exactly that, but for many people it's practically the main attraction, they think "I can't be losing all the time, I should win big very soon!", and they keep playing, and the more they lose, the more they are hooked.

Sometimes during holiday, or special celebration, I invite friends/relatives to my place and we play for the lul (they are not gambler) as a side entertainment. If the sessions were average or good, some of them show some interest in gambling. However, if the sessions were bad, they seem turned off, and start bitching about gambling is bad, only eat your money, bla bla... And those were with 3rd party slots! Imagine if I played low budget games. That's how hard it is to make newbies to get involved into the game.

If you watch slots documentary, people keep playing because their brain is forced to love the game. The music, the near miss, the intermediate wins, etc., and not the money per se. But it needs users to play long enough for the dopamine mechanism to kick in. That's just my opinion that money can't be the only recipe to hook people. It's not enough.

I've lost some $$$ in dice, roulette, etc., but it is not enough to make me play every week.

I agree. Absolutely. That's why providers keep improving their slots: playing just for the money is boring for many people, and I even suspect - for most gamblers. You are right, if the game wasn't interesting by itself, people would play only if they were winning money all the time, but, well, there are no such games in this Universe.

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Quote from: STT on July 19, 2021, 07:48:39 PM

A hook requires an emotional response, hopefully enjoyment of the game and also risk reward which is a core emotion for human beings going many thousands of years. Removing gambling will never rid humans of that need to take risks, compete and enjoy rewards and its all natural imo. Hooked can mean good or bad gameplay though in terms of gambling I'm pretty sure you want to remain in control to achieve best results money wise.

It is true that a hook requires an emotional response and taking into account that people can get very emotional when they earn and lose money then it is easy to see that every single gambling game has the chance to hook up a player, which game people tend to prefer will depend on their personality, personally I prefer games in which I have to think so games in which I have to play against other players like poker or sport bets are the games that I prefer.

Those are just after effects or events that could be seen on a certain person on a gambling site.The question is, how you would be able to hook up those users or players in the first place?
Of course gambling businesses would really be that serious in terms of bonuses and perks which would spark out peoples interest which is already a very common thing to see.
This is where this market is really fierce when it comes to competition.We had seen lots of types of gimmicks but all of those are just for the sake of hooking up people.
As an owner then you would do all sorts of things.

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Quote from: STT on July 19, 2021, 07:48:39 PM

A hook requires an emotional response, hopefully enjoyment of the game and also risk reward which is a core emotion for human beings going many thousands of years. Removing gambling will never rid humans of that need to take risks, compete and enjoy rewards and its all natural imo. Hooked can mean good or bad gameplay though in terms of gambling I'm pretty sure you want to remain in control to achieve best results money wise.

It is true that a hook requires an emotional response and taking into account that people can get very emotional when they earn and lose money then it is easy to see that every single gambling game has the chance to hook up a player, which game people tend to prefer will depend on their personality, personally I prefer games in which I have to think so games in which I have to play against other players like poker or sport bets are the games that I prefer.

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A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

Of course, offline casinos have a very different feel, casinos offer a lot of perks just so you can stay longer in their casinos, they offer free drinks, free foods, free lounge, and free entertainment, you have heard and read stories of people who stay in casinos for days because they enjoy the atmosphere, every day you have a new experience.

When you have a hard time leaving the casinos and always want to get back there, that's the start of gambling addiction.

I agree.

But of course it's not literally "free" you have to pay a certain amount of price before you could enter or play in a certain casino, if I'm not mistaken, you need to be a member for you to have those kind of perks that you mentioned. The only thing I don't like about offline casinos is that they don't care if players would smoke and drink at the same time, no healthy precautions at all, so unfair to those players that are not smoking.

they sure can attract lots of people with all those nice offers but they will go bankrup if they will provide it all for free but in reality the people that can avail it are either a vip or they have payed before they enter .
they can also loose a player if they will allow other players do what they want but there must be an area to smoke and to do things other than gambling .

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Quote from: zanezane on July 08, 2021, 01:24:32 AM

For me, the immersion and the experience is going to be the biggest reason why people get hooked in a game, in the case of gambling, the game gets people hooked by making sure that they are left wanting more out of the game.

Have you considered people who gambled with all the had let say the had a budget and left their homes with let's say $400 and had in mind to gamble $100 and maybe the got lucky twice and doubled the money but instead of leaving dicided to gamble more and in the process lost everything until it's left with $100 he/she would want to get back at the market until such losses everything. Been greedy has left so many people hooked until the can't afford their way home.

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I think it also has a lot to do with you general mental setup. Everyone knows this friend that is always willing to take risks, jumping from a bridge 15 meter high into a river, skydiving etc. That's probably one thing. Others are extreme competitors, they might rather fall for poker. And some are just having a bad time in life and look for something that substitutes whatever they lack.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 17, 2021, 05:26:00 AM

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

Of course, offline casinos have a very different feel, casinos offer a lot of perks just so you can stay longer in their casinos, they offer free drinks, free foods, free lounge, and free entertainment, you have heard and read stories of people who stay in casinos for days because they enjoy the atmosphere, every day you have a new experience.

When you have a hard time leaving the casinos and always want to get back there, that's the start of gambling addiction.

I agree.

But of course it's not literally "free" you have to pay a certain amount of price before you could enter or play in a certain casino, if I'm not mistaken, you need to be a member for you to have those kind of perks that you mentioned. The only thing I don't like about offline casinos is that they don't care if players would smoke and drink at the same time, no healthy precautions at all, so unfair to those players that are not smoking.

All those perks are to be paid because that's their strategy to make their clients stay. They always make sure to give the best services so they could attract more players but that also benefits them at the same time. If offline casinos would know how to take care of their users as well, I'm sure that they could also make their clients stay by offering bonuses.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 20, 2021, 06:15:22 AM

I'm afraid I'm not getting your point. I know you are experienced gambler, and I can't believe you are saying that losing makes people leave the game. I mean, it would be great if it were so, and good-tempered and responsible gamblers are doing exactly that, but for many people it's practically the main attraction, they think "I can't be losing all the time, I should win big very soon!", and they keep playing, and the more they lose, the more they are hooked.

Sometimes during holiday, or special celebration, I invite friends/relatives to my place and we play for the lul (they are not gambler) as a side entertainment. If the sessions were average or good, some of them show some interest in gambling. However, if the sessions were bad, they seem turned off, and start bitching about gambling is bad, only eat your money, bla bla... And those were with 3rd party slots! Imagine if I played low budget games. That's how hard it is to make newbies to get involved into the game.

If you watch slots documentary, people keep playing because their brain is forced to love the game. The music, the near miss, the intermediate wins, etc., and not the money per se. But it needs users to play long enough for the dopamine mechanism to kick in. That's just my opinion that money can't be the only recipe to hook people. It's not enough.

I've lost some $$$ in dice, roulette, etc., but it is not enough to make me play every week.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 15, 2021, 04:18:24 AM

If we are talking about what's hooking people to this or that kind of gambling game, then yes, very low house edge can be one of the attractions. But if you play for fun, and you are not planning to constantly make money on gambling, the difference between 1% and 0.5% shouldn't bother you at all, because you will hardly notice it unless you play millions of games. And yes you can lose everything even with 0% HE, why not? Nobody's guaranteed to win a coin flip, after all.

I'm one of those people who gamble for entertainment, so the very low house edge doesn't really interest me. Except for people who are obsessed
with making money when playing gambling, the very low house edge will attract attention to them. Despite the fact that there is no effective strategy
in gambling, whatever strategy we use can make us lose a lot of money if we gamble excessively. So gamblers playing 0% house edge can lose
a lot of money too, as long as gamblers can't limit themselves when playing gambling.

Gamblers hate to lose. It doesn't matter if you are playing for fun or for money, in the end, everybody wants to win. Yeah if the question is "hooking" which means only attract existing gamblers to try, then yes, low HE can work, especially for "making money" dudes. But there is nothing to keep them engage when losing, so they can easily leave the game (FYI there are more losers than winners).

If hooking people also includes "repeat order" then there have to be methods to entertain losers. It can be via graphic/animation, gameplay, intermediate wins, etc.

I'm afraid I'm not getting your point. I know you are experienced gambler, and I can't believe you are saying that losing makes people leave the game. I mean, it would be great if it were so, and good-tempered and responsible gamblers are doing exactly that, but for many people it's practically the main attraction, they think "I can't be losing all the time, I should win big very soon!", and they keep playing, and the more they lose, the more they are hooked.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 20, 2021, 04:20:04 AM

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Can't avoid to keep playing if you feel that adrenaline that you are almost on that kind of hypes,

That's exactly what I was talking about, the feeling of wanting more is what makes the players hooked in a game and to add an assurance that they will get in is that you let them win something considerable so they will play more and recklessly which ends up with them having to spend more thinking that they can get back on track.

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Quote from: Obito on July 20, 2021, 03:18:09 AM

Quote from: Lordhermes on July 19, 2021, 10:39:46 PM

I think For a game to hook people means that a game you bet on is on playing,and has already gotten to it climax of play,and the side you bet on to win is either loosing or having a draw,the tension created in the heart during that period is what is refered to as a game hook. And I think this is so much related to your mindset and your emotions towards the game.

So what you're saying is that for a game to hook someone is to make them get excited then get blue balled in a sense because you destroy the climax but at the same time creating the need to chase that climax, that's basically drugs in my opinion although I hate to agree but you are right about how to hook people, you make them an addict.

Maybe that will make them become addicts slowly and once they become real addicts, they will come back and give their time to chase the win. Hmm, yes, that makes them passionate about coming back because they will have curiosity about how to win the games. If they lose control, that will become the time for the casino to play their balls and keep that player coming back again in the next few days.

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Quote from: Obito on July 20, 2021, 03:18:09 AM

Quote from: Lordhermes on July 19, 2021, 10:39:46 PM

I think For a game to hook people means that a game you bet on is on playing,and has already gotten to it climax of play,and the side you bet on to win is either loosing or having a draw,the tension created in the heart during that period is what is refered to as a game hook. And I think this is so much related to your mindset and your emotions towards the game.

So what you're saying is that for a game to hook someone is to make them get excited then get blue balled in a sense because you destroy the climax but at the same time creating the need to chase that climax, that's basically drugs in my opinion although I hate to agree but you are right about how to hook people, you make them an addict.

Can't avoid to keep playing if you feel that adrenaline that you are almost on that kind of hypes,

Wanting to complete the win and take the money out from the house, this kind of climax really play well for the house,

once a gambler hooked up they'll going to keep coming back along the way the person will realized that he already addicted, bad for many who can't work it out in the early stages and suffer a lot.

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What kind of rush does a casino need to have so that they can make people hook to them? Many create a casino but they failed and close down there business.

The casinos closing isn't just the fact that they don't have any games that makes people get hooked but there's another problem which is the number of competition and the funds left in their bankroll.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on July 19, 2021, 10:39:46 PM

I think For a game to hook people means that a game you bet on is on playing,and has already gotten to it climax of play,and the side you bet on to win is either loosing or having a draw,the tension created in the heart during that period is what is refered to as a game hook. And I think this is so much related to your mindset and your emotions towards the game.

So what you're saying is that for a game to hook someone is to make them get excited then get blue balled in a sense because you destroy the climax but at the same time creating the need to chase that climax, that's basically drugs in my opinion although I hate to agree but you are right about how to hook people, you make them an addict.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 19, 2021, 07:46:00 PM

What control you do mean? When it comes to odds or winning chance then there might be some difference since HE is almost the same so this simply implies that everything is just the same.

It is just different on total environment or how its been set-up but games offered is just the same or overall concept.

Hooking up people? For physical then those perks would really be in mind and on online then vip and other bonuses as well.

The atmosphere of a physical casino contributes to the fact that a person has a good mood and a kind of euphoria, which means a passion for risk/additional spending. These are old and well-known marketing moves, and no matter how confident a person is that he can resist them, on average, many people succumb to such influence.

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I think For a game to hook people means that a game you bet on is on playing,and has already gotten to it climax of play,and the side you bet on to win is either loosing or having a draw,the tension created in the heart during that period is what is refered to as a game hook. And I think this is so much related to your mindset and your emotions towards the game.

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A hook requires an emotional response, hopefully enjoyment of the game and also risk reward which is a core emotion for human beings going many thousands of years. Removing gambling will never rid humans of that need to take risks, compete and enjoy rewards and its all natural imo. Hooked can mean good or bad gameplay though in terms of gambling I'm pretty sure you want to remain in control to achieve best results money wise.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 19, 2021, 04:29:32 PM

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Quote from: acener on July 16, 2021, 05:22:00 PM

For me I got hook on gambling games when it is fun, thrilling and exciting.
Come on it isn't just the profit sometimes it is also the feeling of those excitement and fun when gambling.
And also there are times that the environment would also affect it for example lively community where gamblers enjoy to have a little chat with other gamblers.
Those are the ones some of us consider when searching for a site to gamble.

A visitor is much more likely to be mesmerized by gambling in an offline casino. There really is always a great holiday and adventure atmosphere and the staff competently maintains this atmosphere. I think a lot of casino players are more likely to nostalgic the thrill of adventure than gambling itself.

This is correct, when you are gambling online you are the one that is in perfect control as you have complete authority over your environment and the online casino only has a limited control over you, but in a physical casino this is different, every single thing is under their control, this is why people lose a lot more money in physical casinos than in online casinos as they lose control and everything is against them if they try to make any attempt to regain it.

What control you do mean? When it comes to odds or winning chance then there might be some difference since HE is almost the same so this simply implies that everything is just the same.

It is just different on total environment or how its been set-up but games offered is just the same or overall concept.

Hooking up people? For physical then those perks would really be in mind and on online then vip and other bonuses as well.

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Well, gambling with regards to the video games comes from two different worlds. For sure they are both engaging in a way and there factors to this but then, one has got everything to do with your finance and you apparently have a lot to loose while the other could just take only your time and perhaps if uour good at it, you might win something in the process.

One factor that always tends to hold individuals to a platform is the graphis about it. The first time i attempted playing baccarat on an online Casino platform, I was so amused at what the programmers had done. It was so real what the programmers had done. The card shuffling and casino attendants were just on point but then, I don't like being sucked in so, I just find a way not to be a regular or stay for so long.

Mean while, the video games are often about the story line and graphics about it. In a few, there might be prices but, mot so many persons are aware or even care so much about it.

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