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There are certain times you will need to incorporate the initiative of bonus to gamblers just like in the case of this recent ongoing one for the black friday promo, some casinos have done that and make their gamblers happy in the festive season, you can as well pick some specific dates that has unique special holiday to mark with and introduce your own bonus promo for that same period, this will help make some pull on your casino because of those that are really fans to bonus will ensure they give your casino a try for the bonus hunt.

Promos or offers like this have become a tradition for every casino. Indeed, usually it is only on holidays or certain days. The bonuses offered sometimes also vary depending on the initial requirements for the promo being announced. So that is an important factor for anyone looking to set up a new casino.

We should ask our selves why most of the casino games is using this method, because it's the shortest way of getting people to patronize or patterned with them, and most people do go into such platforms of casino gambling sites because of the bonus that they give, you are right by saying that some of the sites always give bonus to the weekend so that it will attract more people to come into their gambling website.

Yes, both parties benefit from holding such an offer. I myself am a person who really likes bonus offers and often take advantage of the opportunity. Sometimes I can get more profits because my funds have multiplied with bonuses.

bonuses from legit businesses but the sad thing is that not everything has this offers and also there are several chances that we failed than earning .

and every opportunity to earn is what we must have and what we must settle , casino are here to take money from players but will spend for those who helped them get money from.

And we are already at the end of the year, where there will definitely be many casinos offering many attractive bonuses. New casinos must pay attention to this to attract more gamblers who will visit their casino. By providing more bonuses, the casino can hope to earn more income because surely gamblers will use this opportunity to get it. And if there are a lot of unlucky gamblers, it's the casinos that will get that advantage. So let's see which casino will provide more attractive bonuses.

actually what new can casino offers when with all of them actively sharing those? i think there is nothing that can be a new or unique to a casino because the competition had been there all these years.
maybe what will make them good into compete? that is about their services and their action towards issues and problems .

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I'm sure they are using cryptography in their games, because hash function is cryptography, right? But regarding blockchain technology, how, in your opinion, it can be used in slot games, for instance? You mean using blockchain technology instead of RNG, right? In the case of slots it's thousands various outcomes per second worldwide. How can blockchain technology be of a help here?

Yes, you are right. Most casinos use cryptography in their provably fair algorithms and this is common especially on in-house games such as dice, roulette, crash.. Like Coinbox1 already explained.
Regarding the blockchain technology, I meant omething like smart contracts (like the difference between CEXs and DEXs). The player interacts directly with the smart contract and everything is recorded on the blockchain. It's going to ba a challenge but still feasible.

Too many scalability problems IMO, the blockchain has certain uses but a private casino recording in a blockchain seems like overdoing it. Provably fair is an interesting application, but that is pretty much it. There is not much benefit from having tokens or records, I would even think that some people would rather not have any records of their activity Grin

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Whether it is competitive or not, gamblers are more interested in having a better experience rather than bonuses that has lots of restrictions do that gamblers or gamers will not have the opportunity to make a good fortune out of the bonus system. Bonus should not have a strict rules that will make our experience more difficult to make some profits.

The bonus is what makes up the experience, no? I think the bonus structure is an essential part, especially if you're a VIP.

I'm not talking about free no deposit bonuses that have a gazillion times wagering requirements.

You probably didn't understand well what's the experience he is pertaining. Any casino can offer a fancy bonus to attract customers but it's useless if it's bound with shitty ToS rules and games on the casino is not that good. You are playing in the casino to have a good gambling experience and not with bonus alone. Bonus is introduced as extra reward for your activity in the casino. It's useless to focus on bonus if you are losing all your bankroll on the shitty game play or worst games rigged.

Do you think bonus is existing to give free money to players?

This is a good point, I mean sometimes I see gamblers that seem to be more worried about the bonuses they can get than about the fun they can get out of gambling, and to me this is the wrong approach to gambling, as the fun should always be the priority, and if you can get a bonus or two while gambling the way you do then that is great, after all several of the bonuses that you can get are tied to very difficult conditions and it is for the best to not even claim them.

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Quote from: Desmong on December 05, 2022, 06:19:16 PM

Whether it is competitive or not, gamblers are more interested in having a better experience rather than bonuses that has lots of restrictions do that gamblers or gamers will not have the opportunity to make a good fortune out of the bonus system. Bonus should not have a strict rules that will make our experience more difficult to make some profits.

The bonus is what makes up the experience, no? I think the bonus structure is an essential part, especially if you're a VIP.

I'm not talking about free no deposit bonuses that have a gazillion times wagering requirements.

Each bonus has a requirement that every gambler should follow to get it. If they can't do that, it's better not to try to get the bonus and play as usual because that can also give a win. By playing gambling, they will gain experience and when they try to get a bonus by depositing a certain amount, they will know which one will be in their favor. But not everyone is chasing bonuses to get bigger returns because some gamblers who only play gambling for fun are more concerned with limiting their money deposit. In addition, by chasing bonuses, they have to spend more money.

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Quote from: Desmong on December 05, 2022, 06:19:16 PM

Whether it is competitive or not, gamblers are more interested in having a better experience rather than bonuses that has lots of restrictions do that gamblers or gamers will not have the opportunity to make a good fortune out of the bonus system. Bonus should not have a strict rules that will make our experience more difficult to make some profits.

The bonus is what makes up the experience, no? I think the bonus structure is an essential part, especially if you're a VIP.

I'm not talking about free no deposit bonuses that have a gazillion times wagering requirements.

You probably didn't understand well what's the experience he is pertaining. Any casino can offer a fancy bonus to attract customers but it's useless if it's bound with shitty ToS rules and games on the casino is not that good. You are playing in the casino to have a good gambling experience and not with bonus alone. Bonus is introduced as extra reward for your activity in the casino. It's useless to focus on bonus if you are losing all your bankroll on the shitty game play or worst games rigged.

Do you think bonus is existing to give free money to players?

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Quote from: Desmong on December 05, 2022, 06:19:16 PM

Whether it is competitive or not, gamblers are more interested in having a better experience rather than bonuses that has lots of restrictions do that gamblers or gamers will not have the opportunity to make a good fortune out of the bonus system. Bonus should not have a strict rules that will make our experience more difficult to make some profits.

The bonus is what makes up the experience, no? I think the bonus structure is an essential part, especially if you're a VIP.

I'm not talking about free no deposit bonuses that have a gazillion times wagering requirements.

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There are certain times you will need to incorporate the initiative of bonus to gamblers just like in the case of this recent ongoing one for the black friday promo, some casinos have done that and make their gamblers happy in the festive season, you can as well pick some specific dates that has unique special holiday to mark with and introduce your own bonus promo for that same period, this will help make some pull on your casino because of those that are really fans to bonus will ensure they give your casino a try for the bonus hunt.

For those bonus hunters, they will leave the casino once there is no more bonus that they can try. I think it's better to make some regular bonuses other than the seasonal ones only to retain those types of players. Bonus hunters are not only aiming for the free money but professional bonus players do also risk good amounts of capital in order to make their attempts more successful.

In this world, we are living, the more you can make money if you have a big capital with you. This is why casinos should start valuing those players and not by discriminating them like the normal players who don't totally depend on the bonus. They think bonus hunters are all leechers but no, that's not true.

I understand your insinuation mate, let's consider having bonus as not an occasional occurrence, it what should be incorporated into a well developed gambling casinos budget both on the seasonal and occasionally plan from time, having a giveaway or promo should not be in guise for competition or quest for something, it should be with the understanding that gamblers need to earn something back from the gambling casinos on annual or occasional basis and both are a welcome idea they can adopt doing as long as they are capable.

Whether it is competitive or not, gamblers are more interested in having a better experience rather than bonuses that has lots of restrictions do that gamblers or gamers will not have the opportunity to make a good fortune out of the bonus system. Bonus should not have a strict rules that will make our experience more difficult to make some profits.

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There are certain times you will need to incorporate the initiative of bonus to gamblers just like in the case of this recent ongoing one for the black friday promo, some casinos have done that and make their gamblers happy in the festive season, you can as well pick some specific dates that has unique special holiday to mark with and introduce your own bonus promo for that same period, this will help make some pull on your casino because of those that are really fans to bonus will ensure they give your casino a try for the bonus hunt.

For those bonus hunters, they will leave the casino once there is no more bonus that they can try. I think it's better to make some regular bonuses other than the seasonal ones only to retain those types of players. Bonus hunters are not only aiming for the free money but professional bonus players do also risk good amounts of capital in order to make their attempts more successful.

In this world, we are living, the more you can make money if you have a big capital with you. This is why casinos should start valuing those players and not by discriminating them like the normal players who don't totally depend on the bonus. They think bonus hunters are all leechers but no, that's not true.

I understand your insinuation mate, let's consider having bonus as not an occasional occurrence, it what should be incorporated into a well developed gambling casinos budget both on the seasonal and occasionally plan from time, having a giveaway or promo should not be in guise for competition or quest for something, it should be with the understanding that gamblers need to earn something back from the gambling casinos on annual or occasional basis and both are a welcome idea they can adopt doing as long as they are capable.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 05, 2022, 05:42:44 AM

I'm sure they are using cryptography in their games, because hash function is cryptography, right? But regarding blockchain technology, how, in your opinion, it can be used in slot games, for instance? You mean using blockchain technology instead of RNG, right? In the case of slots it's thousands various outcomes per second worldwide. How can blockchain technology be of a help here?

Yes, you are right. Most casinos use cryptography in their provably fair algorithms and this is common especially on in-house games such as dice, roulette, crash.. Like Coinbox1 already explained.
Regarding the blockchain technology, I meant omething like smart contracts (like the difference between CEXs and DEXs). The player interacts directly with the smart contract and everything is recorded on the blockchain. It's going to ba a challenge but still feasible.

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Im fan of old games like table tops games, Plinko and color games and of course with a twist it depends on you now how you will add, also the crash game but with the genre of horse race game or if there's a chance you could support this better because there's a lot of people still missing the old era of their games and of course they are the gambler who have money to play to satisfy their child hood games during the stage they cant afford having this.

Am also a fan of this kinds of old era games because we've enjoyed seeing and playing them long time ago, but more often now we see them being played on the tv but casinos could as well choose some varieties of them and add to their list for gamblers to enjoy, so in addition to this, a standard casino is expected to have games it support in categories, this will make the broadening of gamblers choice whenever they wanted to gamble by selecting a number of varieties including the ones they have played last since childhood.

Thank you for the excellent idea! Those are definitely something we can consider to develop and I have forwarded them to the product team already.
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Hello Bitcointalk community,

TrustDice team here. As we continually improve our platform, we think it is crucial that we also seek some genuine inputs from Bitcointalk community, so we can better involve you all in this creation process and better cater to your needs. This fits what Blockchain truly stands for!

What extra do you expect from a (somewhat established) crypto casino? A few aspects we can think of include:
- More crypto original games. Minesweeper and plinko, so we've heard, are getting trendy. Any more thoughts and would these interest you?
- More cryptos accepted as payment options. We currently support BTC, ETH, EOS, USDT and USDC. More has been requested - but will it make depositing easier for you? And which cryptos should we add, in your opinion?
- Additional features for our chat room?
And feel free to tell us anything else you really want!

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I have yet to try out Trustdice but I can think of a few improvements for any serious casino platform. Especially if they are serious about community management and quality control, as I assume that you are.

Maybe you could add some games which are an exact mirror copy of the original games but these will only be "practice" or "tutorial" games. That way newbies would be able to understand how the game works and develop their strategies and skills without worrying about losing real money?

Also, perhaps revise your user experience design? I have found it quite difficult to navigate many casinos during the newbie stages of gambling, because of bad user experience design of the website itself.

Hi,

TrustDice team here.

As the matter of fact, we do offer demo games. Just come to our casino page and hover over a game you like, then click "Demo" button you see on the game card.

With regard to user experience, we do care a lot about it and in fact, we constantly optimize it. Please always feel free to spill out any suggestions/frictions!

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My answer for this question is always trustless betting without deposits or the need for an account and verifiably honest games. When you can make a bet without an account or making a deposit, verify the game was honest without having to trust anyone, and get paid out immediately on the blockchain, then I will feel like crypto gambling has been done correctly. Right now there are so many different points of failure in most casinos it’s amazing they’re able to run so smoothly.

I remember back then when DirectBet became the most popular crypto casino at that time. Everything processed automatically and instantly, no deposits needed, and their customer support staffs were pretty quick to respond any question and issue by their players. I don't really know the exact reasons why they closed the company, but yeah seems their system is likely not ideal for current casinos.

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casino are here to take money from players but will spend for those who helped them get money from.

Maybe you didn't mean it, but your statement makes it look like casinos are stealing money from the players. This is not true. They are offering a service (entertainment) and they are getting paid for it. Besides, there is a chance for the player to earn more than what he spent. So, it's more than fair to me.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 04, 2022, 03:29:07 PM

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This is why I don't quite agree with calling them crypto casinos. They are online casinos that accept crypto payments. A real crypto casino is the one that uses cryptography and the blockchain technology in their games.

Hi!

TrustDice team here.
As a matter of fact, we have been contemplating turning our platform into a fully on-chain casino for a very long time. We are fully capable of it as a team, but the real-world challenge is, would players be willing to play on a site where each bet costs gas fee? Mathematically, it is reducing the odds of winning for all players. In addition, would players be willing to play on a site where they might need to wait between each bet so it can be confirmed on-chain? That is in no way user-friendly.
So the workaround crypto operators all settled for now, is provably fair games like Dice and Crash. We do hope game developers like Evolution can implement provably fair mechanism as well so the fairness can be verified on their games that we carry.

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Quote from: minime0105 on December 05, 2022, 07:56:19 AM

I just want state my feeling or correct an impression base on my understanding, so what i observe concerning op, is that how would people believe that all the information presented is coming from or directly from the Trustdice teams, because i was expecting this particular platform to follow directly or present anything with their own bitcointalk account with their name as Trustdice, but nevertheless if it's not matter for people or it's okay by people, it's okay by me.

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TrustDice team here, and hereby we confirm this account is our sole official representation on Bitcointalk, and is owned by TrustDice team. To verify it, you can always talk to our live chat support.
"Coinbox" was in fact the name of our Faucet program but we later realized that it had caused some confusion so we stopping calling it "coinbox". It turns out that when it comes to naming your product/features, there should be a balance between innovation and customer familiarity.

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I just want state my feeling or correct an impression base on my understanding, so what i observe concerning op, is that how would people believe that all the information presented is coming from or directly from the Trustdice teams, because i was expecting this particular platform to follow directly or present anything with their own bitcointalk account with their name as Trustdice, but nevertheless if it's not matter for people or it's okay by people, it's okay by me.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 04, 2022, 03:29:07 PM

My answer for this question is always trustless betting without deposits or the need for an account and verifiably honest games. When you can make a bet without an account or making a deposit, verify the game was honest without having to trust anyone, and get paid out immediately on the blockchain, then I will feel like crypto gambling has been done correctly. Right now there are so many different points of failure in most casinos it’s amazing they’re able to run so smoothly.

It sounds nice if a casino let's us gamble without a deposit and without creating an account first. But where is the initial balance coming from for us to gamble with? One option could be for the casino to offer playmoney for people to try out the games without actually spending money. This will not really solve the initial trust issue for the customer to know if the casino is legit or not. There will be no withdrawal process as we can't win anything with playmoney. The customer has to make the first step and deposit money if he wants to gamble for real money. I don't mind creating accounts at casinos as long as there are positive review for the casino. For example, if I read here on the forum that other users has a positive experience at a new casino, then I would also give it a try. In case someone raises red flags here on the forum than I would probably stay away from the casino. When it comes to playing at a new casino I will always first try out the services with a very small amount to see how legit the casino is and if there are any issues.

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Quote from: OgNasty on December 04, 2022, 03:29:07 PM

My answer for this question is always trustless betting without deposits or the need for an account and verifiably honest games. When you can make a bet without an account or making a deposit, verify the game was honest without having to trust anyone, and get paid out immediately on the blockchain, then I will feel like crypto gambling has been done correctly. Right now there are so many different points of failure in most casinos it’s amazing they’re able to run so smoothly.

Those are good feats of a casino, the trustless and verifiable games. I think there are some casinos that are into it and those that don't need some login details.
However, there are also some good things about having accounts. But, it's better if the users have the option for these feats as they seem really good to have.
And what all of us mostly like is always about the deposits and withdrawals, like having a quick deposit and withdrawal and it won't be cut by any representative but from an almost to an instant transactions and withdrawals.

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This is why I don't quite agree with calling them crypto casinos. They are online casinos that accept crypto payments. A real crypto casino is the one that uses cryptography and the blockchain technology in their games.

I'm sure they are using cryptography in their games, because hash function is cryptography, right? But regarding blockchain technology, how, in your opinion, it can be used in slot games, for instance? You mean using blockchain technology instead of RNG, right? In the case of slots it's thousands various outcomes per second worldwide. How can blockchain technology be of a help here?

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 04, 2022, 03:22:33 PM

Maybe you could add some games which are an exact mirror copy of the original games but these will only be "practice" or "tutorial" games. That way newbies would be able to understand how the game works and develop their strategies and skills without worrying about losing real money?

You mean like demo games that some fiat brands have? Yeah I was wondering why this isn't the norm with crypto casinos. Most fiat brands have them and you can play the demo version without even registering, you just open it up and spin the slots for a few minutes. I remember that CasinoEuro did a whole review series on YouTube by only using demo games: https://www.youtube.com/@casinoeurochannel

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Quote from: Reatim on December 03, 2022, 02:18:07 AM

casino are here to take money from players but will spend for those who helped them get money from.

Maybe you didn't mean it, but your statement makes it look like casinos are stealing money from the players. This is not true. They are offering a service (entertainment) and they are getting paid for it. Besides, there is a chance for the player to earn more than what he spent. So, it's more than fair to me.

Quote from: OgNasty on December 04, 2022, 03:29:07 PM

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This is why I don't quite agree with calling them crypto casinos. They are online casinos that accept crypto payments. A real crypto casino is the one that uses cryptography and the blockchain technology in their games.

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