Topic: What happened to the forum plagiarism rules? (Read 1502 times)

But by the right you supposed quote all the sites the information were gotten so that the readers can go to the sites and confirm the information by themselves if it is correct because nobody is an island. Nobody came to this world and know everything the day she or he came to the world. Everyone learned from one another therefore, where you learned from most be given reference to honor the author. And also when you are taking information from another person, you should also contribute to knowledge. That is your suggestions and criticism will also help the author to improve on his writings.


I hope DdmrDdmr has said all. Because there is no way one wrote 100 articles even on his initiative that he or she would not have similarities with another person article, sometimes the topics are different but the ideas are the same or the ideas are the same but some of the topics would be the same. Even sometimes words would be the same. So there will be homographs, homograms, the same phrases and clauses. Why is it like that? Because we use the 44 English symbols and the rules of english. But if I am to use my language (mother tongue) to write there will no longer homographs, the same clauses and phrase, even at that tribal language level, there must be similarities (synonyms) in the writing.

Therefore, always honour the author of the article to avoid plagiarism.

If one is to simply put statements that are extracted as copy/paste from a given source, although providing a link will let you off the hook from a plagiarism point of view, it would be better (though not mandatory) to place the text in a quoted block/s. That would allow the reader to discern what part of the post is originated elsewhere from what are the OPs own words (if conducted properly).

Often, we come across posts that are literally, or very close to being literally, providing content from a given site, with no other added value (i.e. opinion, criticism, questions, complementary cross-references, etc.). That kind of post tends to have some clear drawbacks:

-   It does not help meriters (if applicable) to discern what’s what, and although the post may catch some stray merits, it is kind of deceiving, and likely counter-productive in the long run.

-   It denotes that the OP has made no real additional effort to dissect the information (so why bring it forward in the first case – other than to merit phish or to comply with campaign quotas).

-   It tends to relate to people that then do not interact with the posters that add their perspective on the thread.

-   It could be reported as low value content if it brings nothing of added value.

No it is not. But you ought to be careful when doing this, when summarizing an original text, you must ensure that you have understood it very well, if you have, summarizing it in your own words would be very easy and will be original too. But if you do not understand the text and you try to do it, you will only be paraphrasing it, which is plagiarism. There are users who just paraphrase original texts from somewhere else and post it here without any link to the source, and thus claim ownership, that is plagiarism, so make sure whenever you want to share knowledge, you are actually knowledgeable about it; and if you are not so sure of yourself/to remove all doubts, just add the link to the original text in the end.

This cleared my concern about creating a thread, I thought that putting a summary is still considered as plagiarizing offense.


Those are the rules I'm already aware of but creating a thread is a different level for me, you need to be very careful doing it because it has more content from multiple sources compared to what you do regularly.

As long as you include all the sources and didn't missed any source you used on your thread, you're fine. Plagiarism is you're claiming the words/sentence is from yours and didn't include the original sources, this forum doesn't have any strict rules how to write someone words.

There's a 3 kind users in this forum about the way they mention about the sources:
1. A user that mention the news on his post e.g. based on this news bla bla bla
2. A user that quoting the whole words and sentences that didn't belong to him
3. A user that didn't mention the news and only put all the sources on the bottom thread.

Either 1, 2 or 3 you wouldn't get banned.

No. In the forum including a link is quite enough for a post not to be considered as being plagiarized. But why would you just make a thread that is word for word/exactly the same with the original source, only to add a link in the end, without including your own thoughts/ideas nor putting it in such as way that it becomes one other users can discuss about.

Having said that, the best thing to do to keep discussions flowing is if you have a useful link/source about an information you want to share, you should read it up first, and then post somewhat of a summary of it here, with your own thoughts/ideas, in your own words, and then include the link in the end for users to know where you got the larger knowledge from and might want to visit the original source to get more knowledge.

Anyone can enlighten me what really are these rules? Sometimes I want to make a thread but I'm afraid to actually do it because of this rule that can result to my account being banned forever.

Let's say I create a thread "Different strategies in trading" and gather info on different sources. Post some of those information while including the links where I got them, is that considered plagiarizing because the statements are not from me even though I gave credits?

Surely he has plenty more accounts in the pipeline. Looking at his history alone, we can conclude it was just another alt from his account pool. The account was registered in 2017, but he didn't start actively using it until the end of 2021, mostly in the WO thread, where he wrote several dozen posts a week while "building" the account. Although he accidentally exposed his alt, Dic3L0v3r, it would be naive to believe that it was his only one.

Iirc there are couple of low rank accounts that had same M.O.; they both active in Bangladesh local thread and trying to farm merit in WO thread so maybe he already has an alt account ready. Keep in mind that an average monthly salary in Bangladesh is ~$150  and he was making almost double that in his signature campaign so if he doesn't already have an alt account ready, he is making a new one as we speak.

Thank you for showing Naim027's true face and bringing this liar to light. Watching his unscrupulous behavior, I was disappointed by some of the accounts I respected earlier, who categorically did not see his lies.

But after such words, instead of feeling some kind of shame, he continued to lie and invent stories, thereby feeling his impunity. I did not double-check his account, hoping that after the discovery of plagiarism, the owner would have to check every word in his account. But that did not happen. Whatever one may say, justice has triumphed.

Yep, that's how you get users with notification bots banned for plagiarism

It's not the first time he failed to fix his plagiarism.

Just wanted to tell you guys, the plagiarism rule is still exist and anyone can get banned no matter what how much his merits or his ranks. The naim027's case is the prove an user gained 500+ merits already get banned permanently according to BPIP. I don't know which post the moderators decide to ban him, the first report I created on the "report plagiarism" naim027 noticed it and edited his post with the original source and LoyceV said he wouldn't likely get banned after realizing his mistake, he suggest naim027 to check all of his posts and put the sources.

However I have found his another plagiarism post and already report to moderator (I don't want to make another report on the "report plagiarism" thread since it can easily noticed by him and he will add the sources again), perhaps the second report that's make moderator decide to ban him since he failed to follow LoyceV suggestion. At least we know broke plagiarism rule is still zero tolerance until now. There's no excuse for high ranked users to deny he was don't know the forum rules, if it's a newbies, then it make sense to give a second chance.

I want to say thank you for moderators to take care of this case and I wouldn't surprised if I see there's new account/low rank account shitposting on WO thread to earn easy merit

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Source: https://www.bitcongress.org/mining/best-usb-bitcoin-miners/

A newbie rank with three negative tags is the same as a dead account; it serves no purpose and causes no harm to the forum; if he's still posting, he's only contributing to forum activities; and, from what I've heard, the mods prefer punishment to bans these days. Only DT can save the forum now!!

Not only is he repeatedly trolling by copying scam bounty campaign threads and bluntly plagiarizing other people's posts. The user has alts that have already been banned and have been connected by Fatfork here So he's already evading ban, and yet he hasn't got banned yet after all that time. It doesn't make any sense.

I am going to report the post again, and we see how it goes.

I honestly agree with all you said, but we can also try to look at this from another perspective, banning a newbie permanently on their first offence is not ideal and is rather too harsh if you ask me, we all pray for a second chance when we fail at something we really want or love.
We should ask ourselves, how many of this newbies actually read the rules of this forum before they begin posting?
You know, like it's commonly said, "the best form of judgment is to put yourself in the other fellow's shoe", I use myself as an example here, when I first joined this forum, I started posting right away, I didn't know neither did I read any forum rules until about six months later, I never got banned though,(and this is why it took me so long to finally read the rules, getting a ban would have forced me to go through the rules) because I never broke the rule even though I didn't know what the rules say, so ironically, I first temp ban came some months after I've read the rules, then, I knew what I was doing was against the rule, but I went ahead to do it anyway thinking the mods wont find out, and of course they found out and I was lucky to get a temp ban, that served as a lesson to me and I never tried to go against the rules again.

So what am I saying in essence?, a newbie who breaks the forum rule might not have read the rule to know what it says, so the mods can give them that benefit of doubt and ban that user temporarily, the temp ban will force the user to read the rules, and ones the ban is lifted, if such user is sensible enough, he or she will definitely not try to break the forum rules again, but if such user still goes ahead to break the rules even after the first temp ban, then such user can be permanently banned.
Banning a newbie permanently on their first offence will only encourage one thing, and that is ban evasion, which is also another offence, so I think it better to temporarily ban on first offense as a warning and a pointer to the user to read the forum rules and regulations, then on the second offence that same user, then he or she can be banned permanently.

Yes, the majority of bounty hunters are newbies, and you can tell because those are alt accounts that returned after being banned, and most of them gave up because all the merits they ever had were airdropped to them, making building impossible, so they left the forum. A one-month temban for plagiarism defaulters would save the forum from losing members, in my opinion.

We all want a safe heaven forum, but in order to have one, certain REDLINES must be maintained, and anyone who crosses them will face a penalty.

I am quite sure that the noticeable drop in activity and general interest of new members for the forum is the reason the admins are somewhat more careful with issuing permanent bans. I visited the bounty section the other day just to see how it was doing and it seems the activity has somewhat dropped there as well. Taking all that into consideration, being extra strict with bans is probably not in the best interest of the forum right now. Having users plagiarize all over the place is also not something we want to see, so a middle ground needs to be found.   

Tbh, I never report a single case of plagiarism. Instead, I always PM the user to do the right thing and put such user on watch for a while to see if he's a plagiarist or if the one time was just a mistake. But, yes, the second time is too much.


Is Halab really blaming the reporters for doing a good job? There is nothing wrong with issuing a temban for first-time plagiarism; we simply wanted to know why our reports were rejected and why some users are banned for first-time plagiarism while others are not.

It's always easier said than done, and while everyone's attention is focused on the new forum software, one thing is certain: if nothing works here, nothing will happen there either.

That's exactly what I meant when I said that instead of reporting all cases of spam to moderators.

It's good to know that something is really going on in the background and that we haven't become so bad in our assessments when it comes to plagiarism and paraphrasing reports. What exactly is the reason that the rules have softened we can only guess, but it certainly has a demotivating effect on all who report such things.


Self-moderated threads do not solve the problem of plagiarism, but they definitely make sense to fight spam. The problem is that very few members want to moderate their threads, it is much easier to transfer all this work to moderators.

Many will say it’s a waste of time anyway, and unlike moderators who get paid for their work, everyone else does it for free. Last time the admin posted a list of members with the most good reports one could read a lot of comments about how individual members wonder why someone spends their time on reports.

Moderators, no matter how you guess, have their own criteria. For example, the case with naim027 is not plagiarism for them. The case with RajaDen, who repeatedly plagiarized, as well as malicious cheating, is also not considered critical.

Therefore, the purity of the forum and other beautiful words remains only "on paper". There is an idea of the beauty of the forum, but there is no desire to make it so.

@Halab addressed that yesterday and it seems like there are no official rules or policy regarding plagiarism.


I think that some middle ground approach is needed here; giving perma ban for the first offense is too much imho and temporary ban (or even better longer signature ban) would make more sense and then perma for the 2nd as they can't claim that they didn't know about the rules.

I would give them the permaban after a second time. I mean you plagiarize, they catch you they warn you or give you a tamporari ban and you go and plagiarize a second time? For me waiting for a third would be too lenient. The second time you can no longer say that you did not know that plagiarizing was forbidden, or something like that.

Wouldn't it make more sense for one of the mods to come out and address the latest plagiarism rules rather than leaving us with so many assumptions over the last few months?

We also had a lot of banned cases in 2020 and early 2021, but I noticed that the actions on plagiarism cases became so minimal after the recent two unbanned cases we had earlier this year, and the forum activity has also decreased since the beginning of last year. I personally believe that onetime plagiarism for users who have contributed to the forum for many years getting banned is just too harsh; perhaps such users should be given a temban as a warning for first plagiarism, and maybe pamban after 3 attempts.

All of my plagiarism reported cases from the previous month have been labeled unhandled, and to be honest, it kills the zeel in me to keep reporting when nothing will be done in the end, it looks like a lost quest! I've noticed that the mods are too lenient in cases of plagiarism, especially when it comes to old users. What about reintroducing the plagiarism ban bot?

Anyone who loves and wants to keep his topic clean should make it self-moderated because the mods have become less active these days; perhaps it's time theymos replaced some of the inactive staff to keep the forum running, as it's been ages since he appointed new mods. We have qualified and active users here who are eager to help.

It seems to me that the main criterion now is to save as many members as possible, which means forgiving them of plagiarism/paraphrasing or giving them a temp ban. I don't know how else to explain the fact that there are threads like this where people wonder what the hell is going on with those damn rules.

I can only say that this was not the case before, every well-documented case of plagiarism was resolved within 3 days - maybe the forum has problems with the staff dealing with things like this?

So, no moderator responded, right? That's why I said in the other thread that it seemed to me that they were not going to explain the criteria. I don't know why they will do this but being transparent with the criteria would help those of us who care about the forum.


Indeed it is.

Maybe the moderators do not disagree. Maybe the moderators might had missed the report had it been triggered by one member but several members reported it and nothing seems to have happened as a consequence. At the very least the member concerned should have had action taken such as a temporary ban. Still, I reported it recently therefore will give it a few days more before asking a moderator to look in to what happened (if nothing happens to the post or the user involved).

I am unable to confirm what happened to that report anymore, however I believe it remained unhandled. Even the post itself remained intact.
In my opinion, it looks like blatant case of plagiarism, so I am not sure why the moderators disagree.

This is an important issue your raised here. I have only ever reported a post for plagiarism a few times but the most recent one (yesterday) was reported by other users long before I reported it.

FatFork was the forum member that highlighted this issue about samputin but that post has not been removed and that user has not been temporarily/permanently banned: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59327375

If moderators do not take action then it makes you wonder whether there is any point in trying to report plagiarism. I have reported spam and pointless/nonsensical posts in the past and most of them are addressed one way or another but with reporting plagiarism it seems many forum members are not seeing the outcome they would have hoped for when reporting posts (such as temporary or permanent bans).

If you noticed then you should have seen hilariousandco used to response concerning any forum related issues from the users but I did not see him to address on this thread yet. The last one I remember to get mods job was Welsh and it's been a long year since then. So it's pretty much a certain that we have not enough mods right now. I have seen many users to talk about not banning users for plagiarism even after reporting the plagiarist. This is not good at all for the forum after all.

I am also leaning towards this reason. A number of mods have left or become inactive and there gotten a disqualification but I don't remember the admin ever giving other user the moderation responsibility in the past 2-3 years

Nothing and thanks, you do a lot for me. I'm glad to see that you helped me by sending a message's reply. 

Again sorry for that, even I don't know that sending two messages about anyone's problems will make feel another people disturb.

History is created by me and I just tried to resolve it. Again thanks OP to remind me of my missteps. 

This could be another reason, but we're in the dark because no mods have publicly addressed what's going on and why so much time is spent on reported spam posts rather than plagiarism cases. We can only speculate.. 

We are the evils ones 

I would like to think that we do not have enough mods to handle the reports and they are missing it because of work overload. This could be a reason too.

Never mind! Some people thinks when you have a reputed account, you have the privilege to access moderators features 🤪

Do you have any other ideas as to why we have so many plagiarized cases but so few banned users? I wish we had another reason to believe that the plagiarism penalty is not as severe as it once was. I also want to believe that low traffic on the site plays a minor role.

Lol..Makes me laugh.

lovesmayfamilis has nothing to do here. You might be in luck for not banned by the mod. It's annoying to see even knowing the rules some people dare to plagiarize and then adjust it by saying a mistake. You are a member, earned 68 merit so far but giving the excuse that it was a mistake.

I would like to believe that this is not true.

What do you want from me? You asked me in a private message what you can do to avoid the ban. I answered you that it is enough to add a link. You did it. Everyone, you will not be banned for this case. Unless you get caught for some other plagiarism.
It is absolutely not necessary to disturb people with constant messages in a personal. Yes, I don't want to answer you anymore, because I see no reason to delete my first accusation. You plagiarized, but you're in luck. Let it be history.
Also, read the policy on unsolicited private messages. I strongly discourage you from doing this.

Sorry for that mistake that I does not add any source link in that post and I also messaged you about this. Asked how to solve it. Later on, I add the source link in that post (as you suggest). Also after adding the source link I again messaged you for removing my name from that plagiarism list. But now you did not reply to me. I think you should give chance to other users before exposing them.

The reason why the mods ignored this user is still unknown; perhaps they assumed he wasn't a spammer because he doesn't belong to any subscription company, as you stated, and he's not a quality poster anyways, judging by his merits history, which shows he's been here since 2013 with no merits and the 100 he had were airdrop. So, now that I've reported, whatever decision mod makes should be in the best interests of the forum.

Well, look, as an example.
teddybear account.
How many users reported its plagiarism? At least three. This is igehhh, Bitcoin_Arena and also previously me.



Isn't that enough? Most likely, we can guess what the moderators think?  Complaints of only one plagiarism, this account does not have a low rank and also does not participate in any subscription company.
To block him, he will need to copy more often , and this case was probably left as a last warning by the moderators.

I have the feeling that's not (only) about how many examples of plagiarism are presented, it may be also related to the number of reports (and maybe reporters).
One of my (few, sorry) plagiarism reports stayed there for quite a while (more than 2 weeks) until that account was banned, although he has made plenty of plagiarized posts.


On the other hand, checking properly such an user requires more time than removing a spam/shitpost and the overall damage is big, hence the mods do have to pay proper attention. So I can understand that they may not always be "in the mood" for such a job.



I would surely not count on that!

In 2019, when there was massive blocking, the attitude towards plagiarism was very tough. Accounts that were found to have a copy of 1 sentence or just a few phrases were blocked.
Today, when compared to 2019, the rules are very soft. For an account to be banned, you need to give several examples of plagiarism.
For example, the account that copied the entire large text is still alive. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59486216
Yesterday's case of visual copying also went unnoticed. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59541265
Conclusion: yes, today you can copy and go unpunished. BUT it is a dangerous game with fire.
One day, such a purge in 2019 will certainly happen again.

So have the rules against plagiarism become laxer or not?
This is a little bit confusing, to be honest.

Most likely, the moderators did not have time to check everything thoroughly. But yesterday I complained about another one of his plagiarisms, and you and I were heard.  https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5950/59508735.html His account has been blocked.
The conclusions that can be drawn are that if the plagiarism of one user is repeated repeatedly, we do not need to give up and continue to send complaints to the moderators.
Although, as you can see, moderators are more loyal to paraphrasing. 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59518982

Maybe we should know what kind of plagiarism is bannable and which one is not so that we don't waste in making futile reports.

I don't usually report plagiarism, but this user has all the evidence showing that he is an offender, not once, not twice, but almost all his post history. I made a report about 4 days ago yet today, the user continues to plagiarize.

What happened? Should we just give up on this plagiarism reporting thing?

If I had a Bitcoin for every sir you used in there, I would be edging closer to being a bitcoin octopus

Do you have to write that man "Sirs" in a sentence to drive your point home?

That's straight up plagiarism and worse still the person behind the account is a scam promoter.

I'd also like to add my plagiarism report has not been addressed here, iirc I have also used "report to moderator". Post edited after the user got to know my report.
Somehow it may be for this reason that I haven't bothered to identify and report plagiarism cases since then while I'm just a silent reader.

I think you need to start showing people much more respect than what you are doing now. The total number of 'sir's' in your previous post is unacceptably low and doesn't meet the Bitcointalk posting etiquette. 

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Maybe in the future we will see a small change in the number of banned accounts because the overall forum activity is dropping. logfiles' post shows that some of the accounts were banned, but if this issue wasn't brought to everyone's attention, maybe it wouldn't have happened.   

What are you trying to prove to me? You didn't copy? Where did you get these posts from? Is it your brain spewing out, all verbatim, the articles that I pointed out?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59385152

Either you don't understand what it means to copy and paste, or you're fooling around. But the times are such that you are not banned, it's just a matter of time, believe me.

Sir

Sir, Many of you are big man. Of course, I am new but sir I am coming forward step by step after seeing you. I don't think I made any mmistak Sir, if I made a mistake then sorry sir I became more cautious.


Sir, Newbiers must be punished for making mistakes. But sir I did not copy. I understand myself. And I am constantly learning that you catch small mistakes. I have learned a lot of help you, sir.

Don't mind sir. I said a lot when I was younger, sir
Take Care Sir

Yes, i have seen a few users give us an account of what they are going through, really sad, and i do hope they get over this phase and this war stops just as quickly as it began. Sure The Pharmacist if you want to get such information you'll have to un-ignore the politics and society board, at least for that purpose or for the time being.
I got one of such thread for you, here it is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hello-from-kyiv-ukraine-5388171 but mind you that it is still in the P&S board.
Here is another one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59360117

One guy's gonna get the [Good] report, while the rest that come later would be slapped with a [Bad].

Besides, too much redundant work for the mods when they see the same report made by at least 3 users.

Thanks for updating that.

"Paraphrasing" was never forgiven before, and I do hope that there hasn't been some behind-the-scenes policy change with Theymos and the moderators as far as that goes, because paraphrasing someone else's content is basically text-spinning, even if you don't use a bot to do it--in other words, it's still plagiarism, plain and simple.

Yeah, I'm getting that feeling as well.  With all the terrible shit that's happening in the world, there is the chance that some of the mods are dealing with real-life issues and aren't spending as much of their time handling reports.  That's just speculation, but this is a global forum with mods from all over the place.

Kind of off-topic, but have any of our regular Russian or Ukrainian members been chiming in lately?  I know there are a lot of them, and I'd like to hear what they're going through.  Should I un-ignore Politics and Society? 

So it took some bit of noise to get three of the culprits banned.

Zain Tariq - Banned!
Rich222 - Banned!
Jontokhan65 - Banned!
BenjaminGlover  -Not banned
wtsimis - Not banned
HRIDOY4847 - Not banned, perhaps due to wrong profile link
Hsibalimrn - Not banned

I don't know what criteria is being used here. Perhaps the paraphrasing chaps are being forgiven?
If I recall well, I think I used to see some text spinning guys getting banned too before.

I second that, but honestly i doubt there is any of such change cause if there was, i think the forum would be updated on that, especially for users who take out their time to fish out such plagiarised contents, thus i am thinking maybe this is just a normal delay that can happen, maybe no mod has as of yet picked up the case, but it is something that's inevitable.
That's correct, and i can't imagine ban appeals being the issue here, i mean it is allowed on the forum, a user has the right to create another account to appeal their ban and can only post on that appeal topic with such account, so there is no way mods would prefer not to ban a user who plagiarised cause they can choose to appeal the ban, no chance in hell that is the problem here, if any even.

No, you're not wrong--that's how it's been for as long as I can remember, and I even recall a time when not even established members would be given a second chance.  If there's been any change as far as giving complete newbies who start off their bitcointalk "career" plagiarizing the content of others, it's news to me.  And that would be a huge step backward, IMO.

Is there any chance the mods might not have caught up to the reports on these cases, OP?  As far as I can tell, there haven't been any proclamations by Theymos and no word from the mods regarding any new policy toward leniency when it comes to plagiarism.  Rich222 was the subject of a thread I posted in yesterday, and normally a member who'd been publicly hung out to dry as a plagiarist would have been banned already, so I'm hoping he and the rest of these plagiarists get the ban-hammer soon.

No doubt it's a headache, but mods pretty much always ignored ban appeals anyway, so what changed?

I think the administration probably didn’t want to waste any more time with ban appeals. I’m surprised to read that bans aren’t happening anymore. I’m sure it was a constant headache having to deal with people complaining about being banned. They can just get around it with a new account anyway, so it’s questionable how effective it is as a strategy. I’ve seen established members over the last few years directly disobey direct requests in the face of empty threats, so I think it’s probably the result of not wanting to deal with this stuff disguised as free speech.

lovesmayfamilis, I guess you just need to give the mod a little time to handle your reports as I think all the reports you quoted in the OP are not a month old. I don't know how many plagiarism reports the mod hasn't dealt with so far regardless if it's from you or other contributors since february to now, but giving the mod a little time is a great option in this case. It's okay to complain especially since you want to know what the problem is, but I'm sure the mods will sort it out sooner or later if the breach was really done on purpose when they start dealing with report after report you make.

A permanent ban is a consequence if a user commits plagiarism on purpose regardless of whether the mod wants to block it immediately or sometime after they handle the report. I think you just have to be patient with it for now because the rules are still in effect and nothing has changed.

That's what I said.

Permanent Ban used to be permanent. Then it was semi-permanent, and now there isn't any kind of banning   Back then no matter how big you were in the forum, no matter how many green ratings you got, you would get clipped once you broke a rule. It is because the forum was filled with the quality posters and their posts.

Now there isn't even anything left to discuss, other than the price.

Sometimes the moderators may have missed them as there are a number of reports to be handled each day. But I have one suggestion.
Why not every one of us hit the Report to moderator button of the actual cases presented in > Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed. In this way, when there will be multiple reports being submitted for the plagiarist post, it is more likely to be taken noticed and not missed by the mods.

If I am not wrong in the past if a newbie copy paste from an existing post or even if they are spamming they will be nuked but it depends on who handles the report since its not a public info we can wait for the mod who handled it to explain the reason of not giving permanent ban.

This has been going for a year or two now. Very frustrating, especially for complex cases where it's not plain copy-pasta and you have to put a lot of effort into figuring out the origin of plagiarism that's been paraphrased / translated / paywalled / etc. Somehow some users are getting a pass even after multiple reports.

I wonder the same, because I also reported some of the people you caught plagiarizing and the reports remained unhandled, and those same members continue to plagiarize and paraphrase. I have also noticed that a much larger number of reports have remained unhandled in the past 2-3 weeks, although they are quite clear and unambiguous, and it is not clear to me why they are being avoided.

Yes, sure. When I report, I always press the button with sending to moderators. For me, it has always worked flawlessly. Therefore, I wonder what I'm doing wrong because I don't see the results.
This is very frustrating.

You may be right, but only admins can answer that question.
After all, permaban lately has not been as “perma” as it was in the beginning.
As far as I remember, at first it was impossible to remove permaban and later exceptions from permaban were allowed, and at the end even removing permaban became almost common.
Perhaps we are now looking at a new phase of punishing members, where the first warning is given through a temporary ban, and no more through permaban?
This is a big change compared to the cases we had before on this forum, like the one from RegulusHr (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ban-appeal-regulushr-and-discussion-on-topic-good-for-the-forum-as-a-whole-5097792), who had to wait two years for his permaban to be forgiven, with the overwhelming support of the local community.

Did you report the posts directly (using "Report to moderator"), or only post the plagiarism in my topic? In my experience, reporting the posts results in quicker action than just posting in the topic.

My guess is, the forum lost so much traffic they can't afford to ban people anymore. When this forum was having its golden years, they would ban you for committing plagiarism forever. As always, once you bend a rule a little bit, soon that rule is gone completely. This is what we are experiencing here probably. It is becoming worse every day.

We're in a bear market mate, even the moderators themselves have been shaken out of the markets/s

In all seriousness, I think I've been seeing plagiarism posts a lot more rarely recently compared to years ago, hence why I thought the moderators were actually far stricter now. Didn't know they increased their leniency.

Correct me if i am wrong, i thought leniency as regards plagiarism more often than not applies to established users/users that have been here for quite a while and have contributed in one way or another, and thus if a misdemeanor they committed sometime past is found, then they could be given another chance, and if need be, maybe an addition of a signature ban or something of that sort.

Do newbies also get such chances? And is it on the basis that they are new and prolly didn't pay cognizance to the forum rules, especially that which has to do with "do not plagiarise"? I am unaware of temporary ban being given to newbies in cases of plagiarism, well if that is the case, i am pretty sure a mod will clear the air and the reason why.

I've gone through a few of these and on the count of the quite above, non of these guys as presented by Lovesmayfamilis, all these guys are defaulters and guilty of the plagiarism rule and as such, its only expected that the rule applies. I might seem to understand why the forum tries to handle these newbies or beilginners with some tenderness and give a temporal ban but I say this, it makes no difference from a permanent ban and I think the permanent ban is much more effective.

When these newbies arr given a permanent ban, it sends a direct message on how strict is the forums stands on this rule. With the rules being clearly stated in the pinned post, ignorance is not much of an excuse. Most of all, when these users gets a banned, they still go about creating alts of which, they are very much aware of what would become of there alt should they plagiarise. It only takes the foolish once to be follow the same part and not expect the same harhness.

Perhaps the moderators have there reasons for which, it could be let known to ensure clarity and so, those taking up this course to ensure the purification of the forum and that the rules are adhered to would be at peace that they aren't doing these things for nothing. Forum rules comes first and enforcing it is what would give the forum its integrity.

Dear moderators, can I ask you what the latest plagiarism rules are?
I have reported several cases of plagiarism, but no action has been taken on them so far.
Yes, I see that you began to give temporary bans to beginners (if I'm not mistaken). Then let's make it known to everyone that if you are a newbie, you have the right to copy anything you want.
In addition, the forum strives to provide unique content, so why aren't cases of plagiarism even removed?
And another question, how many times can newbies have cases of copying so that punishment will apply to it?