Topic: What happens when the US makes crypto-currency illegal? - page 6. (Read 8850 times)

Quote from: Hawker on May 25, 2013, 02:22:04 PM

Nonsense. The rules don't change.

Sure they do, that's why we have Constitutional Amendments.

That's what I said in my reply, but let me reword it for clarity:

The rules don't change except with Constitutional amendment.

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the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

Nonsense. The rules don't change.

If they do then what's the use of having rules in the first place?

You abide by the rules, and if you need the rules to change there is a constitutional process for doing that called amending the Constitution. What's so hard to understand about that?

Interpretations change. Segregation was unconstitutional in the 1870s, it was constitutional in the 1890s and then unconstitutional again in the 1950s.

That's why you use a constructionist reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_constructionism

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Quote from: Hawker on May 25, 2013, 02:12:47 PM

Nonsense. The rules don't change.

Sure they do, that's why we have Constitutional Amendments.

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Out if curiosity, what is it with libertarians and rape? Everything they dislike is akin to rape.

I've notice that about the term 'violence' as well.

My theory is that a Libertarian is an Anarchist who got picked on in school. Perhaps they got goosed a lot.

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the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

Nonsense. The rules don't change.

If they do then what's the use of having rules in the first place?

You abide by the rules, and if you need the rules to change there is a constitutional process for doing that called amending the Constitution. What's so hard to understand about that?

Interpretations change. Segregation was unconstitutional in the 1870s, it was constitutional in the 1890s and then unconstitutional again in the 1950s.

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the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

"[There's] the argument of flexibility and it goes something like this: The Constitution is over 200 years old and societies change. It has to change with society, like a living organism, or it will become brittle and break. But you would have to be an idiot to believe that; the Constitution is not a living organism; it is a legal document. It says something and doesn't say other things.... "
Justice Antonin Scalia

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I would like to know how they would actually do this.
IMHO an outright ban would be ineffective and just draw more attention to cryptocurrencies.

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the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

Nonsense. The rules don't change.

If they do then what's the use of having rules in the first place?

You abide by the rules, and if you need the rules to change there is a constitutional process for doing that called amending the Constitution. What's so hard to understand about that?

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SEC agent,

Please don't be a pussy. I already publicly pledged you (in another thread) BTC 100 if you can demonstrate evidence supporting the facts you alleged.

Be a man and claim your reward

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Quote from: uMMcQxCWELNzkt on May 25, 2013, 02:08:48 PM

the one thing all Americans should agree on is Constitutional rules are the ones which ultimately matter.

I agree with that, but would add the caveat that the Constitution is a living document, and the rules within changes and grows with our society.

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Quote from: SEC agent on May 25, 2013, 01:09:03 PM

Quote from: acoindr on May 25, 2013, 12:56:10 PM

@SEC agent - you do understand your George Washington quote offers a libertarian endorsement don't you? It's saying ordinary people should be involved in defending a free government.

Its more than that, it is your duty as a citizen to not only pay taxes to your government, but also to serve and defend it.

Why is it anyone's duty, because some bureaucrat wrote is down on a piece of paper a few centuries ago?

I can only speak for myself but my duty is to uphold my own moral values and dignity, regardless of the personalities. I say getting on your knees to do your duties is rape and you are the victim, unless of course you enjoy it.

owenprescott, it appears you're from the U.K. You do realize you're commenting on an American political discussion.

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Quote from: uMMcQxCWELNzkt on May 25, 2013, 02:08:48 PM

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Why is it anyone's duty, because some bureaucrat wrote is down on a piece of paper a few centuries ago?

I can only speak for myself but my duty is to uphold my own moral values and dignity, regardless of the personalities. I say getting on your knees to do your duties is rape and you are the victim, unless of course you enjoy it.

'Duty' is a legal term - whatever your own beliefs its your duty to pay taxes and if you evade taxes, you eventually will end up in jail.

Out of curiosity, what is it with libertarians and rape? Everything they dislike is akin to rape.

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