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Next time I will store my phrase in a white house or in uranus  Grin

Hahaha!  Have you watched the movie "White House Down"? That thing can happen for real, and your coins are gone!

As for "uranus", you might get a surprise visit from an unwanted visitor there too!  Grin
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I personally wrote mine in a piece of paper and then keep it in a safe place. I also mixed those 24 words that only me knows the exact combination. I am actually planning to acquire a gun safe and I'll put it there though not right now but maybe soon when I have extra money.
wow that is even best way to keep them safe mixing your 24 words phrase , but my question now mate is what if one day you have come to sickness in which you cannot remember anything , who will inherit your funds knowing that you are the only one that knows the right combinations?
sorry for asking this mate because I'm just concern bout your hard earned crypto that might be gone in the air if that happens.
I think we're just talking about how and where to safely store seed phrases. Whether we share the seed phrase or seek to pass it on to family members is another story.

Yes, but I think he correctly points out that any storage method that relies solely on your own memory is not good. Mixing up the seed phrase words is definitely bad practice and a common reason people lose their crypto.

Seed phrases already have an additional layer of security – a passphrase you can store separately. I don't understand why people wouldn't use it!
Every method has advantages and disadvantages, no method is 100% perfect and depending on each person, there will be a method that suits them. We cannot impose our thoughts on others or think others are stupid when they do not think the same as us. I've seen some people mixing up phrases to increase security. For me it was quite risky and not suitable for me but so far they have been safe with that method, how can they say they were wrong? On the contrary, when I told them my method, they said it was not safe for them. So what is right and what is wrong?
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What if the bank catches fire or your document gets missing? Maybe you can sue them but to store your phrase, you should try avoiding it relying on other people. You can turn it into a cypher and save it offline but not in a complex place so even if someone found it, they wouldn’t be able to make sense out of it. It could even be an article and you used the words in there but only you know how to decipher the words.
Of course we can't expect this from other people and it would be better for us to save our own seed phrase where we store a number of Bitcoins and don't forget where we put it, we will lose access to the Bitcoins we store, if you can make an article and save Of course, no one will be able to understand this seed phrase in the article and it will also be very difficult to find the seed phrase in an article that you write.
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The idea you Ave mentioned is great as it will keep the seed phrase safe and I would probably think of t if I am hodling a huge amount of crypto in a particular wallet. But at the moment it's too much of an hassle for me and as a person who had already lost seed phrase of blockchain wallet in the past by writing and keeping it somewhere I have started a simple strategy of sharing the seed phrase from my personal email to alternative email so it's there in two separate places and also uploads the same in cloud.

A stupid idea like this coming from a hero member on this forum is a big shame, how did you become a hero member without knowing that it's wrong to keep or store your recovery seed online? Even if you are using a hardware wallet, if you keep it's seed in any form of online storage, either email or cloud then you are not safe.

This is crazy and stupid, newbies are looking up to high ranking members on this forum, believing that they have passed through a lot and always know better, it's disappointing that this nonsense is coming from a hero member, wtf?

Any recovery seed or private key must stay offline, there is no better way to keep your keys safe than using offline mode, this is why airgapped wallet are the most secured, they lack the need for internet, they are always offline, may God have mercy on your soul.

In my view it depends on your requirements. Lets say I have 100 000 USD in Bitcoin. There are different considerations:

1)Safety:   Keep the seed phrase save. If you save the seed phrase in a physical space, like on paper, metal or whatever, everybody needs to be physically present to steal this information.

If you store the info online it can be hacked via the internet, I agree here. So online is less save.......

2) Access: But what happens if you travel to a foreighn country and get arrested and need access to your Bitcoin funds to pay for a good lawyer?Huh  How does it help that you have the seed phrase hidden at home???

Maybe worth to have set up an online option to access your seed phrase, at least then you have a chance to use your Bitcoins .....

For me money is a tool, and if I cannot use it it is useless for me......

But if other prefer to rot in jail and it makes them happy that their Bitcoins are save :

 Up to you Smiley

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Firstly, I wouldn't over complicate your setup. For e.g mix your words, split the seed etc - you'll only confuse yourself later.

Second. There's lots of people talking about multi-sig - I'm not a fan of this. I'd prefer to add a 25th word, so if your seed is ever stolen/compromised, they still need one more piece of the puzzle to spend your coins. I think most of the hardware wallets support this feature.

As for storage, I'd engrave a copy of it on a metal backup (one that has been properly tested to withstand a house fire). I'd hide in plain sight or somewhere totally random, not in a safe.

Lastly the way the world is headed, you need to be resilient and ready for anything. I'd remember your words as a story. 12 words is going to be easier for this. 24 is not hard though. No matter what happens you have your coins stored in your brain.

Storing your seed online anywhere is just plain retarted.
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What if the bank catches fire or your document gets missing? Maybe you can sue them but to store your phrase, you should try avoiding it relying on other people. You can turn it into a cypher and save it offline but not in a complex place so even if someone found it, they wouldn’t be able to make sense out of it. It could even be an article and you used the words in there but only you know how to decipher the words.
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If nothing has happened to your wallet yet at then don't hesitate to take security actions to maintain your privacies.
Safely storing your seed phrase is a different thing from keeping your privacy. For security, you should store your seed phrase offline and make more than one backup of it, you must also have great opsec and ensure you use an airgapped wallet or a hardware wallet to store your funds. However, for better privacy you must run your own node and don't just connect to third party servers that can see your BTC addresses and ip addresses, you must also use p2p exchanges and self custodial wallets only.
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So the wallet will only be decrypted when someone you inherit it from knows these two different places? Doesn't this also sound strange because dividing 50% of the share elsewhere actually increases the risk of you losing that share?
I didn't mention encryption in my earlier post. I only said splitting the seed phrase into two and storing in separate locations is far better than interchanging the seed positions, as one can suffer amnesia and forget the correct seed arrangement. I also went further to say that I don't support both methods by my concluding statement.

I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.
This is quite hilarious but it's still not safe. If the artist has crypto knowledge he can steal your funds.
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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.
I feel like it's one from many dumb ways to back your seed phrase.

Let's say this is your seed phrase:

1. abandon
2. ability
3. able
4. about
5. above
6. absent
7. absorb
8. abstract
9. absurd
10. abuse
11. access
12. accident


So it will be:

1. 4b4nd0n
2. 4b1l1tY
3. 4bl3
(Tattooed on your dick)

4. 4b0ut
5. 4b0v3
6. 4bs3nT
(Tattooed on your ass)

7. 4bs0rb
8. 4bstrAct
9. 4bsurd
(Tattooed on your head)

10. 4bus3
11. 4cc3ss
12. 4cc1d3nt
(Tattooed on your cheek)?

In case someone aware with those words because you intentional or unintentional reveal it, you would be targeted. You need to protect your privacy because this is really sensitive.

Haha, the position almost same with your description. But I forgot to write above that No 4, I encrypt using simple Caesar method and also I remove some char too.

However I knew that this method not really effective and not recommended.

Next time I will store my phrase in a white house or in uranus  Grin
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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.
I feel like it's one from many dumb ways to back your seed phrase.

Let's say this is your seed phrase:

1. abandon
2. ability
3. able
4. about
5. above
6. absent
7. absorb
8. abstract
9. absurd
10. abuse
11. access
12. accident


So it will be:

1. 4b4nd0n
2. 4b1l1tY
3. 4bl3
(Tattooed on your dick)

4. 4b0ut
5. 4b0v3
6. 4bs3nT
(Tattooed on your ass)

7. 4bs0rb
8. 4bstrAct
9. 4bsurd
(Tattooed on your head)

10. 4bus3
11. 4cc3ss
12. 4cc1d3nt
(Tattooed on your cheek)?

In case someone aware with those words because you intentional or unintentional reveal it, you would be targeted. You need to protect your privacy because this is really sensitive.
Some pattern of saving the seedphrase needs to be personal, you don't need bring it to the public.  The best way for storage of seedphrase should be offline in a pattern that needs not to be reviewed to anyone. The seedphrase is private and everything about it needs to be private,  no need to reveal it to someone else the pattern of our you store your seedphrase, you may be thinking you are helping someone but the truth is that you are exposing your self.
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The best way to store your seed phrases is the offline storage unit, you can write it down in the pieces of papers, about 3 places is okay for it and must be stored at a secured different places and mustn't be so suspicious hidden places that would attract persons to the location.
Online seed phrases storage is extremely risky because because either your device or storage sites can be compromised and get your privacies exposed.
We have since been talking about keeping our seed phrases private with a high secretiveness but we have never considered the case of "What if"? Wallets banking for assets storage and transactions aren't like the fiats banking where we've next of kins, anything can happen and anything emergency is possible to happen so I'm on the note to say we should sometimes have a trustee, a guaranteed individual who we can entrust out seed phrases to Incase of emergency or critical occurances. Although you don't have to force into someone to trust if you can't find one.
And while you make copies of your seed phrases, be careful so that you don't make multiple copies you may not have knowledge about the location again probably due to excessive locations of hideouts and don't be relaxed with just a copy because anything can happen within in vicinity that you may not be reachable to it again.
I also have to tell us to always check on the locations we hide those copies and don't feel relaxed when you can't find a copy of it from where it was hidden.
If nothing has happened to your wallet yet at then don't hesitate to take security actions to maintain your privacies.
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Are you sure that potential robber won't find the safe, and if he does, your bitcoin is gone. 


Usually most of my friend store their seed phrase on google drive beside have save it before on computer or their mobile phone
I sure hope that you explained your friends how dangerous that method of saving is and that they are really testing their luck.


But storing seed phrase on flash drive give us more secure assets
That is also not a good way to store your seed phrase as every time you insert USB into a PC with (most likely) internet conenction, you are exposing it as I seriously doubt that many people have air gapped PC just for those ocassions.








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The way I do it is to put it on a flash drive and then put the flash drive somewhere safe like for example a vault of something, then I have another copy of my seed phrase on a notebook which is also hidden somewhere safe to something like a vault as well. I mean not too flashy but I guess it is already secured, as long as you could put it somewhere safe you're still going to be okay, just need to avoid putting it online like clouds or something like that because I dont really believe that those are secured and online are always vulnerable to hacks to there is always the possibility to getting hacks. Unlike if you're going to put it offline, there is no possibility of getting hacks the only thing that you need to worry about is this, but I guess as long as you dont give too much information you're going to be safe, not everyone knows about Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, etc. so they wouldn't really go to be interested in it unless they know that you are holding some kind of wallet, so just make sure to do not give away too much information.
Usually most of my friend store their seed phrase on google drive beside have save it before on computer or their mobile phone not, I don't bad ideas when storing seed phrase data on google drive but need to secure access with email account linked on several device how to protect with our mobile phone or some device broken. But storing seed phrase on flash drive give us more secure assets without think how bad possibility when losing access such as save it in google drive.
Need to spent some place for storing seed phrase and its good ideas after storing in flash drive, using mobile phone note until store in google drive for taking care if losses some access way.
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Offline seed phrase storage is most secure. The seed phrase is the only key with which we can protect our relationship and keeping this key properly safe is most important to us. So I think the sheed phrase whether it is 12 or 24 sentences, we should write these sentences in a diary and keep it in a locker or a drawer and keep the key of that locker or drawer with us at all times, it will be the safest. This is how I store the seed phrase of my wallet. It gives me maximum security.

That's not a very bright idea considering there can be natural disasters, what if there is a natural disaster where you survive but your house doesn't? What if microorganisms eat the paper up? What if it catches fire and gets burned completely? So we need to make sure that we keep our seed phrase and other important things safe from such stuff so that we don't lose access to our coins.
If you plan to keep your seed phrase physically somewhere, then you should make sure that you make copies of it and keep it in multiple places so that if one of them is wasted, you can still get your seed phrase from the other place.
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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.

Haha, is this a joke?
If yes, it was a good one.
If not, why share this info in a public forum?
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Seems a little complicated but for sure both are going to work anyway, but it is just going to be a hassle for sure people especially if you are just a newbie at this kind of thing.

The way I do it is to put it on a flash drive and then put the flash drive somewhere safe like for example a vault of something, then I have another copy of my seed phrase on a notebook which is also hidden somewhere safe to something like a vault as well. I mean not too flashy but I guess it is already secured, as long as you could put it somewhere safe you're still going to be okay, just need to avoid putting it online like clouds or something like that because I dont really believe that those are secured and online are always vulnerable to hacks to there is always the possibility to getting hacks. Unlike if you're going to put it offline, there is no possibility of getting hacks the only thing that you need to worry about is this, but I guess as long as you dont give too much information you're going to be safe, not everyone knows about Cryptocurrency, Bitcoin, etc. so they wouldn't really go to be interested in it unless they know that you are holding some kind of wallet, so just make sure to do not give away too much information.

I plan to have a steel plate copy back in the day I guess I just forgot about it and didn't add it to my plans, would plan to do it as well since its a good thing to have in incase there was fire involved it still not gong to be a problem.

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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.

When the tattooed body is exposed, you don't realize that there are people who are experts in the field of randomizing every letter, number and character that you have separated into several pieces. Don't you think so?

When storing seeds, I prefer to store them in a safe place that cannot easily catch fire and will not be lost due to getting wet in water, such as steel that has passed the test stage when burned and submerged.
If you keep a seed phrase in a tattoo on a part of your body, what if unexpectedly something happens that causes the tattoo to be erased, such as an injury from falling from a car or another incident that could injure the part of the body with the tattoo.
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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.
I don't know where you came up with this idea from or where you learnt about it, but this is totally crazy and it is not recommended to do a thing like this. I have a heard about stupid ideas of backing up seed phrases, but this has to top it for me, a tatoo of your seed phrase on your body? Don't do that and do not recommend it to others.
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Offline seed phrase storage is most secure. The seed phrase is the only key with which we can protect our relationship and keeping this key properly safe is most important to us. So I think the sheed phrase whether it is 12 or 24 sentences, we should write these sentences in a diary and keep it in a locker or a drawer and keep the key of that locker or drawer with us at all times, it will be the safest. This is how I store the seed phrase of my wallet. It gives me maximum security.
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I store seed phrase in my tattoo. Here is my way
1. I split seed phrase to several part
2. After split, I replace my favourite character or number with other character/symbol
3. I draw several tattoo with splitted seed. So if i have 4 splitted seed so I make 4 tattoo.
I feel like it's one from many dumb ways to back your seed phrase.

Let's say this is your seed phrase:

1. abandon
2. ability
3. able
4. about
5. above
6. absent
7. absorb
8. abstract
9. absurd
10. abuse
11. access
12. accident


So it will be:

1. 4b4nd0n
2. 4b1l1tY
3. 4bl3
(Tattooed on your dick)

4. 4b0ut
5. 4b0v3
6. 4bs3nT
(Tattooed on your ass)

7. 4bs0rb
8. 4bstrAct
9. 4bsurd
(Tattooed on your head)

10. 4bus3
11. 4cc3ss
12. 4cc1d3nt
(Tattooed on your cheek)?

In case someone aware with those words because you intentional or unintentional reveal it, you would be targeted. You need to protect your privacy because this is really sensitive.
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