Topic: What I've learned so far as a gambler - page 13. (Read 2921 times)

In principle I think that only self-control and some limits can save us from things that are not wanted, especially large defeats, it is clear that if they cannot apply any limits at all to their gambling then they will definitely feel a losing streak, none other than that because there is absolutely no prevention they do, they will not be able to resist their curiosity and also if they lose, they will definitely continue to play until they get what they want, but even if they win in my opinion the amount of victory will not always be able to cover the amount of defeat they have sacrificed at the beginning.

Yes it is true that only luck can lead them to victory while on the other hand whoever it is will never know when they will be lucky, so what is your reason so that you behave excessively on your gambling? I think there is no other reason than you are putting too high hopes on opportunities that basically do not have any certainty, and also on the other hand there is nothing better because even if you have won I think that is not the end of gambling by going home with victory, and what usually often happens is that when you win then greed will play a role in that condition, surely you think of getting something bigger. I think that kind of cycle will never end, and always end up losing.

Sports betting is good only if you know what you are doing. You can bet blindly on purely luck-based games like slots and you'll get the same results as if you were maximally concentrated, but try do that with sports betting and you will lose all your bets.

And regarding "know when to stop", we never know. That's life.

But on the other hand they don't know that there are downturns or unexpected things that are waiting for them ahead, but yes on the other hand I'm sure it doesn't mean they don't fully know about the bad effects that will befall them, surely they have also heard of some people who have experienced problems as a result of gambling, but the problem is that they are too ambitious and have high hopes for victory so that they seem to think that the bad effects that will befall them like nothing or they don't think too much about it. Yes, maybe at that moment the other person was really lucky, and as I said before, I'm sure that person must have sacrificed many defeats just to get that one victory. Not applying self-control does not mean we can't win, it doesn't matter if you don't want to apply self-control but as long as you are ready for all the risks you will receive including the number of unexpected defeats. That is the importance of self-control because with it, you will not suffer too much defeat. Yes, it should be like that if they have gotten pleasure or even victory then they should stop, because it is also for their safety, but yes it is not easy my friend, the temptation there is very large.

Yes that's right, basically there are still quite a lot of other activities that are also fun but not risky, they can go to tourist attractions with family or friends or do other activities that are quite fun but positive or like gardening behind the house. Honestly for myself if I am in a boring condition then I prefer to watch movies or play games, not that I don't want to gamble but in that condition I maximize to resist the temptation and curiosity that is in my mind, I am already quite bored when I see the final results that are always disappointing, therefore the first step when I am bored I immediately open one of the games on my cellphone or watch fil, with that then I will forget about gambling. I think one of the reasons why they don't seem to care too much about losing is because their expectations are too high to get a win when in fact in every session the results are always disappointing, but yes basically it is difficult to be able to give advice like that to them, and maybe we can just let it go, I'm sure over time they will definitely be able to realize their mistakes, especially when they have experienced the bitterest thing in their gambling, so maybe it's just a matter of time that will answer it.

If we cannot control ourselves in gambling, of course we will very easily lose the money used in the bets we play, even though to be able to win at gambling we have to have luck, because even though we are lucky in gambling and we cannot control the games we play, of course we we will add more bets to get an even bigger win, but we won't be able to get it. All we get is losses and the money we spend gambling.
I agree with your opinion, when we gamble, luck is really needed to be able to win our gambling and we should not be greedy when gambling.

If they think that just by gambling, they can win, they should be prepared to experience disappointment because gambling will not bring them wins very often so they should understand that. Other people get their wins because they are really lucky and deserve to get it, while we haven't been able to get the luck we want but that doesn't mean we can use gambling more often. Without good self-control, we will only experience defeat more often and will not be able to win like other people do. So we have to know ourselves and just gamble as usual to get pleasure and after we have finished or have had pleasure, we must be able to stop gambling immediately. And we also don't deserve to use a lot of money to win, especially if we still need that money to meet our daily needs. That is why we have to have a good mindset so as not to use gambling as a way to make money, especially as we have seen many people who have experienced defeats without being able to recover from their losses because they continue to experience bigger losses.

If we have a lot of free time, we shouldn't use that time to gamble, especially with the risk of losing a lot, so we should be able to think about what we can do in that free time and not just gamble. Indeed, we can use gambling to fill our free time and win, but we have to remember that we can also experience losses so we don't need to gamble all day. Those who often gamble will not understand that they have experienced a lot of losses and it is time to take a break to reduce their tension. If they win, they should also be able to calculate how much their winnings can cover the losses they have incurred. But the number of wins is still smaller than the number of losses. If we can understand that gambling is just entertainment, we will only try to get pleasure from gambling and will not gamble too often. We must be wise gamblers so that we can control ourselves well and avoid losing a lot.

If one can control one's emotions, greed, excessive desire, then it is possible to gain something good from the gambling site. In gambling we tend to rely more on our luck than our strategy. If we win a bet depending on luck then our greed increases manifold and due to extra greed we increase our bet money and again bet depending on luck but luck is not always helpful. In the second step, when luck does not help, the gambler loses both the profit and the capital. We must remember that gambling is not only dependent on luck. In gambling half we have to rely on luck and the other half we have to rely on our gambling skills. Every gambler wouldn't have lost so much money if they weren't so greedy in gambling.

I couldn't have phrased it any better than that! Yes some make a living gambling, but I am not sure what you are referring to. Playing poker for example? Even in poker there are people who suffer from losing streaks for so long that they can't bear it at some point anymore. Making a living off of gambling is often times still luck at the perfect moment. When someone grinds through tournaments and wins the small ones because he is skilled but gets eliminated from the big ones because of bad luck, skill can still be outpaced in significance by luck or bad luck for that matter.

I share your doubts about gambling "wisdom". Taking measured risks, especially with slot machines, can have unforeseen effects. A random method that makes money for the house cannot be beaten. Pure knowledge implies that gambling is uncertain and can lose. There are some people who make a living gambling and they do win, but it's not the same thing as this. They play games that require talent, preparation, and psychological awareness, not luck. Even then, their "wins" come from honed talents and years of experience, not wisdom. To assume their success implies conventional wisdom? That's false

Yh sometimes there is this excitement that a gambler will have in the sense that he is happy about the bet he made and he is certain that he will win but most times it doesn't work out that way. But it believe its not something bad to be excited at least a gambler is suppose to be positive on whatever bet he wants to make. Doubt and unbelief is what makes most gambler loose a good opportunities that could change their life. Perhaps you were carried away by the excitemtn and this led to not do a proper analysis on the bet you want to place. I dont know, but i want to ask. Where you drinking before then or did you take some excitment pills? 

It's called adrenaline, every gambler don't want to lose their money for nothing and if they gamble in a skill based games, they will try to play as best as possible to win. Correct, feeling excited and adrenaline while gambling could be a reason why someone can't stop to gamble, but it's not a problem when you only gamble what you can afford to lose.

Let me; from my own personal experiences say that not all the time does a gambler feel the excitement of gambling, because today, we have alot of gamblers who no longer care about the real purpose of gambling, all they just want is to make money, making money, which is exactly as winning games have become their only means of excitement in gambling, and I honestly do not blame them, because anyone who takes gambling too serious and does not watch him or herself in terms of level of involvement, a time surely will come when the natural fun of gambling will totally be forgetten, at such a level, a gambler can only be excited when ever he won his game or bets, but moody, possible even angry, when ever he or she lost.

But then, I would say it's a bad thing, since naturally, nobody enjoys losing money, at the end, we all are always excited when we win, but then, it's important for us to always find excitement in our gambling activities no matter the outcome, for that is what proves that we actually love what we are doing aside from making money from it.

Yes that's right, you don't have to try it to get experience that is used as a lesson, as you said learning from other people's experiences can also be done by not trying it yourself, because if we try it ourselves we are afraid that we cannot control ourselves properly so that we will experience worse things than other people who experience bad things too. But if there is someone who really wants to experience gambling and wants to feel its bad effects, it is very silly. Because like that is not a reasonable reason.

Utilizing the opportunity that exists is better than coming down to try it. For example, there is one person who is affected by the bad effects of gambling which is very severe, this can be used as an opportunity for us to see that if we cannot control ourselves properly, then the fatal impact will be like this one person. That way we don't need to come down to try gambling even if it's called an experiment, and in my opinion there is no need to try it with things that have clear bad effects, just knowing and not interfering is better.

Sometimes also depend on what the circumstances are,yesterday for example I got a lot of euphoria (not the Calvin Clein perfume  ) as I upgraded my account at Stake at a new level,I had 75 dollars and got another 65 dollars as a bonus and I lost it all because of that euphoria,I thought I am going to win as I am just an upgraded level of myself  but in reality I kept losing while having false hopes.

That is not wise at all of what I did yesterday night,a wise person would have immediately stopped at that moment,placed some sport bets and enjoy the day yet I got and lost it all,it is difficult to be wise nowadays.

That is the perfect way to treat gambling and to be a winner though it is impossible
to assure about winning double instead sometimes taking many shot before it become reality.

Yes , that is also correct that devil keeps whispering for us to continue gambling
even if we are already in winning and can take it out for profit.
I don't believe that there are no one who completely intended to have fun in gambling because
 there are many that only want to enjoy , but of course with a hope to win if lucky yet they are accepting the defeat once the capital is lost.

Can't agree more to this. However, doubling that amount of your capital may not be enough for them. I know some people who allocates a budget to burn in gambling they don't care if they will eventually lose it, the goal is to win as much as they can without any plans when to stop.
$200 might just be a small amount for someone and they can afford to burn it in one gambling session.


Knowing when to stop is what we call a responsible gambling. What's hilarious about it is that, after you emptied your pocket it is easier to stop than when you're winning.

Yes, they seem to be motivated by some of the victories achieved by others, so that makes them very ambitious to get the same fate, they assume that it turns out that only by gambling they can get a victory like others, the problem here is that they only see the victory of others but do not ask how many defeats the person has suffered, I'm sure if they ask them they will at least be quite surprised because it turns out that the person has to sacrifice a lot of defeats first just to get the occasional victory. I think it's because they are too eager to see the chances of winning that they forget that there are greater risks that they never expected. Their mindset is very contrary to the actual concept of gambling and also to the facts that usually occur, they should gamble with the intention of nothing more than just entertainment, with that then I think nothing will happen to them - things that are not wanted. Yes gambling is absolutely not a place to make money, it's okay if you want to do that but on the condition that you have to be prepared for all the downturns, this is not a business that has a more definite chance if you work hard, still the final result always depends on your luck, I think only losers have that kind of mindset.


In the event that you've got a lot of time on your hands, you're going to want to make sure that you've got a good understanding of what you're doing and what you're doing. For  people who are willing to spend a lot of money just to win, I honestly don't understand what they are thinking, even though it is clear that their intention is to get a win but strangely enough defeat seems like no problem even though if you count it maybe the amount is very large and also not necessarily if they win later the amount of victory can cover the defeat that has been sacrificed. Therefore, the point is not to expect something that is difficult to achieve, after all, casinos make gambling not to give money for free to you, they also want to make a profit, which is why many suffer defeat, we must learn from the downturn of others so that we also do not get into the same hole.

I think the word wise sounds inappropriate when it is brought up in a discussion about gambling and what someone has learnt so far. I know that some will now argue against me, but wise is a big word. If someone says "it would be wiser to do this or that", that person recommends doing a lot of things differently or refrain from doing a lot of things and instead do other things. Going back to gambling regularly, believing that acting wise can change the outcome on a slot machine doesn't sound very wise to me. It is rational to understand that gambling is not for earning income, but for experiencing pleasure.

As a gambler, let me ask you this, do you feel something every time you gamble? Do you feel an excitement with every promotion or offer made by the casino? Gambling is indeed created to offer games and make a profit, but the one getting attracted to the casino is the gamblers who are getting mixed emotions and want to go back to gambling houses.

Your analysis of people who go to casinos is spot on, but it only scratches the top of how people think about gambling. Sure, those are the main types of gamblers: addicted, responsible, and fun. But what makes them do it? It's not just about keeping your feelings in check; it's also about the thrill and challenge! For people who gamble just for fun, it's a dance with chance, and the risks are just little pieces in a bigger game of fun. Gamblers who are addicted look for a way out or a rush, and they often don't care about the results. Which one is responsible? They use tools to figure out the odds and know when to fold.

The interesting thing is that gambling is a lot like real life. Taking chances and making choices when you're under a lot of stress. Okay, you say, just walk away and keep your cool. That's easier said than done! Controlling yourself isn't enough to be good at gambling; you also need to know how the game works, the people who play it, and most importantly, how you play it. There is always a fight, not only with the house but also with your own limits. Right there is where the real fun is.

If it is that easy to be wise in gambling then many gamblers could have been winners today. Not millionaires but they may be sitting somewhere in Hawaii drinking their beers.
But it's difficult to be wiser than the gambling site. Most of the time emotions consume us like greed, and ego, and could also be envy when we see someone share their winnings.
Madness will always get the better of us when we are losing, it's the time when we chase our losses while not thinking ahead. I think I have been in that position many times where all I can say to myself is to stop doing it but my hands will just keep on pressing the bet button because I want my money back.
It's wrong, foolish, stupid, and yet the feeling of satisfactory is also there especially if we achieved our goal which is to win back what was taken from us.