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November 18, 2023, 02:36:55 AM
#68
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
You're just a damn genius! Smiley

Doubling your money is better than losing your money to zero. Who will argue with this? - Nobody. Which gambler would do exactly this? - Nobody.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
It's almost like "the best fight is the one that doesn't happen". In gambling, it’s about the same thing: “the best gambler is the one who stays away from the casino”.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.
Just so you don't end up among the bad players, but otherwise, this is an ideal scheme. Smiley

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.
Every gambler is at the mercy of the house.

No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".
At least one more person understood this.
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November 18, 2023, 02:23:33 AM
#67
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.
I think stop playing is the best for someone who can't afford to lose his money. Gambling is very much unpredicted, playing a again can be a time to lose the money entirely and not having anything left. Playing gambling and still winning back the capital is still big win, one don't really needs to win million to call it a win. It is better to to win the capital than lose it all without having. Still keep on gambling is not a guarantee to win this time again. The best thing is to just have a break for the moment and try again. Playing continously is as if one needs to win desperate which losing always trun up to be painful.
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November 18, 2023, 02:14:32 AM
#66
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
you are telling the truth to gamblers who bet for money. I mean betting with the aim of making a profit of course they will gamble and after getting a win they will find it very difficult to stop because the thought "I can win again" is always a terrible mystery for gamblers like greed which can ignore self control even greed like this can destroy healthy mindset.

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No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.
dont misunderstand the meaning of some of the words you say because there are most people who gamble just to have fun. In fact, I also think of this as just a place to entertain myself like playing video games and I am not a hypocrite that when we are playing video games it impossible. we want to lose continuously, of course we also want to win and its the same as gambling.

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Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".
makes perfect sense. but unfortunately not all bettors gamble only for money.
as we know logically, big gamblers who are able to bet hundreds of dollars or even millions of dollars may be a whale and they could have set up their own gambling business but they choose to gamble. this is what I mean by gambling just for fun.
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November 18, 2023, 02:11:15 AM
#65
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
Those who get involved in gambling must have a goal that they will bet and from there increase their money by winning more and more. The number of such gamblers is high. There may be some number of gamblers who may come to gambling for a period of time and after winning from there they will quit gambling again. When a gambler wins, he tries to get the next win and thus his demand increases. This is a common nature of gamblers. I myself will try to research how to get another win if one wins. But if I win 200 dollars, I certainly won't bet 200 dollars in the future, and I don't think I'll have a chance to win 1 million or more from gambling. I am sure those who continue their gambling with the aim of getting more will definitely lose all their money. Gambling should be done under control otherwise there is a chance of losing everything.
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November 18, 2023, 01:44:13 AM
#64
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

Why do you say that? It has been proved many times that if someone can play good poker in land-based casinos, he/she is good in online games too. I think it's because this body language stuff is bs. What matters is the size of your bet, the time you spend before betting, and your previous actions in this regard. Whether you are playing online or in a real casino with others at the table, doesn't affect your performance in the long run.

~ a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".

If you ask me, the man who said it wasn't that wise. Owning a casino isn't enough to make money. It's a complicated business and you should know how to run it.
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November 18, 2023, 01:40:25 AM
#63
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
Yes, just take your winnings and get the hell out of there. The moment you think you can double the winnings, that is the exact onset of your gambling addiction. Listen to so many gamblers who struggle with its addiction and you will hear this familiar line like, "my addiction started when I won $100 , $300, $400 and continued gambling." Their new goal will be to make even more money. From there onwards, they'll continue to invest significant amounts, even exceeding his initial winnings. It is a spiral that doesn't end and soon after they are caught in the gambling web.

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November 18, 2023, 01:29:14 AM
#62
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
This is easy for someone to say but if you ever do that for real, you will not be able to do that, the serotonin that you get when you win is going to make you decide differently and make you want to stay gambling even more because your brain if not discipline will make you think that your luck might not be running out yet so you push it even more until you lost all the money that you have, I dare you to try it for real and see if you can do it after a win.
The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
That is not the devil whispering, that is just your mind and you only trying to justify playing another game and yes I do agree that when this feeling of whispers is starting to accumulate, it is a good time to stop but then again this will be based on your will and discipline again. If you can resist playing more games then good for you.

True what you said, most of them when they get a win they will shake with their intentions which initially will withdraw all winnings and when winning there will be a sense of dissatisfaction, curiosity, greed, which encourages them to continue the game and like you said they will feel their luck has not run out, so they decide to bet again to continue the game, because with so many strong drivers making them to play again.

They themselves decide in the future to make decisions they will be driven or haunted by high curiosity and greed that controls them, they should know if they continue the game will be like what, and they should feel enough with the winnings they have earned and cash out the winnings and then go from gambling to rest their minds and enjoy their winnings.
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November 18, 2023, 01:03:38 AM
#61
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.

No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".

A gambler that knows what his doing, knows when to stop.  A lot of times, you can actually go to casino with that same $200 and you will end up not winning a dime. So for you to even double your invest by gaining another $200, that's a plus to you. So like you said, the best thing is to leave after a successful win,  don't let the devil trick you to stay a second,You can fight another day.
About the thing that a gambler that knows what he is doing knows when to stop, I kindly disagree with you about that, not generalising all the gamblers but mostly many gamblers become addicted because even from the start they know their limit or what they are doing, it is unavoidable for a gambler to become too addicted for a certain reason. Logic and thinking responsibly will be nothing to a gambling addict. That's why, from the start, if you know you can't control yourself, don't do gambling.

About doubling the initial capital, it's not that easy and you can't always do that. That's why it's much better to know when to stop and when to don't. For example, if you have $200 and you are playing for quite some time and still not gaining or doubling your capital, you should know that you need to stop. Don't push to reach that. For example, you can stop if you see that you've earned quite an amount. A win is a win, and a profit is a profit, no matter what amount it is.
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November 18, 2023, 12:00:36 AM
#60
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
This is easy for someone to say but if you ever do that for real, you will not be able to do that, the serotonin that you get when you win is going to make you decide differently and make you want to stay gambling even more because your brain if not discipline will make you think that your luck might not be running out yet so you push it even more until you lost all the money that you have, I dare you to try it for real and see if you can do it after a win.
The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
That is not the devil whispering, that is just your mind and you only trying to justify playing another game and yes I do agree that when this feeling of whispers is starting to accumulate, it is a good time to stop but then again this will be based on your will and discipline again. If you can resist playing more games then good for you.
The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.
Blackjack has the lowest house edge so technically, it is not just poker that you have some power or control. But it can be argued that if you are doing good in Blackjack, you might raise some eyebrows in the casino as Blackjack is notorious game for card counters which is not exactly illegal but it is definitely frowned upon by the casino.
No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".
I am at a loss here, you are not most people that say that casino is for fun including me, I do not think that people that think like that is going to be good for casinos because playing for money will inevitably lead you to the path where you will try to chase losses.
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November 17, 2023, 11:40:07 PM
#59
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.

No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".

I quoted you the entire post because I think exactly the same thing. The problem is that many people who gamble don't understand the concept of expected value. In poker, with a combination of intuition and calculation you can make plays with positive expected value, but in casino games in general it is impossible. They are inexorably EV-games.

So, if someone goes to a casino with $200 and plays a play in a 5% House Edge game, if he wins and doubles up, having a total of $400, that person doesn't really understand that he has had $210 of too much luck. He thinks he is on a streak and continues playing as if the streak will never end, to end up losing everything, when he has not understood that in the first play the expected value was $190, and if he has ended up with $400 it is that he has been way too lucky.
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November 17, 2023, 10:54:16 PM
#58
Some people who gamble to double their money will of course find it difficult to get their winnings because it is very difficult to win bets if they target winnings from the games we play and gambling for fun of course it would be better if we had determined the money we use. to gamble and not take other money when you lose.

If we can win the bet we play, it would be better for us to look for other pleasures so that we don't experience defeat after the win we get.
Gambling is filled with volatility just as cryptocurrency, the results are versatile and this is my kindly advice, don't be too dependent on the system because there's plenty rooms for dissapointment for anyone that hopes of getting better results from the system. Gambling do have two possible outcomes, it's either a win or a loss, but whatever outcome we ought to embraced it and hits a trial another day. Today might be a bad day, but we can not be unlucky for 365 days, one of the brilliant motivation quotes that keeps me going to good standard.
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November 17, 2023, 10:15:36 PM
#57
If you are there for a night out and if you win it's a bonus, then why would doubling your money come into play? Are you there to gamble and make money or there to have a good time win or lose? Seems a little contradictory is all i'm saying.

I think your thought is correct, make double what I came with and leave. Some casinos also have other events such as concerts and game shows. For a good time, get tickets and go on these night.
Some people who gamble to double their money will of course find it difficult to get their winnings because it is very difficult to win bets if they target winnings from the games we play and gambling for fun of course it would be better if we had determined the money we use. to gamble and not take other money when you lose.

If we can win the bet we play, it would be better for us to look for other pleasures so that we don't experience defeat after the win we get.
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November 17, 2023, 10:04:35 PM
#56
Well, it is good to know you seem to be in control of your gambling habits OP, this is the kind of stuff sometimes is supposed to be repeated so people won't forget about how important it is not to let greed to take over us while we are having a lucky night in a casino.



If you are there for a night out and if you win it's a bonus, then why would doubling your money come into play? Are you there to gamble and make money or there to have a good time win or lose? Seems a little contradictory is all i'm saying.

I think your thought is correct, make double what I came with and leave. Some casinos also have other events such as concerts and game shows. For a good time, get tickets and go on these night.

I have wondered in the past how possible it would be for online casinos to host live events for their gamblers in that particular location to enjoy, like I know it would not be so easy for them to do so as it is for brick and mortar casinos; it would just be nice to see some online casino to try to get us the full experience if what we would get in a brick and mortar. I have also fantasied a bit with the idea of online casinos getting a partnership with delivery services so they can send some drink or snacks for those patrons who have gambled beyond some wager requirement, you know they usual treat of old school casinos, but adapted to the digital era. Perhaps, some day we will see it.  Tongue
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November 17, 2023, 09:57:19 PM
#55
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
This is actually true, if you are lucky in the first few hours then get out. As luck wouldn't last for hours in casino, the longer you play the more you are losing. Same as the more greedy you become the more greedier you'll become.

This thing happened to me, got lucky my $20 becomes $200 then ended up to $40. I know if I continue to risk it, it's either I go home double my money or ended up nothing. Grin
Sometimes when we win a big jackpot, greed always comes in and we hope to win more because someone definitely thinks that they still have more luck.

Your experience is almost the same as mine and I have also told about it in another thread. This can be a lesson for all of us. If we are gambling and have won, it is better to stop immediately and enjoy the win by leaving a little money to gamble again tomorrow. Try to get lucky again, but if we don't get lucky again, at least we have set aside the money we previously won for other needs so that the winnings are not just spent on gambling.
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November 17, 2023, 09:35:30 PM
#54
You sound so in control in your gambling habits, OP. Youre right that it is better to secure your gains rather than risking it all for more. Tho doubling your money is a significant achievement in a casino, we should learn to stick on our budget especially when your consequently losing. And once you win, considering alking rught away. Knowing when to walk away with your winnings can be the key to leaving on a positive note. It's a smart strategy Smiley
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November 17, 2023, 09:25:00 PM
#53
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.
You really should if you're mindset is just to double or triple your bankroll but if you're a thrill seeker and you play with money that you can afford to lose why not take the risk, every gambler differs some gamble for money some gamble for fun you cannot reason to gamblers what they want to achieve in playing

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The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.
It is actually your subconscious mind when faced with a situation like this, the subconscious mind's desire pulls up, prior to facing this situation you thought of this in the past and it's just coming out when the situation is presented to you.


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No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.
If you include a poll the poll will tell you that it's not the case many gamblers really play for fun, it's not about making money for everybody

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Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".
With a highly competitive market you can also lose money managing a casino, casino operation is not sure money there are casinos that fold up because they cannot keep up with the competition.
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November 17, 2023, 08:56:01 PM
#52
From my gambling experience myself also have the same thought, person who knows when to stop could be on the safer side. Whether we're on the losing streak or winning side, we should have the limits set and stop our activity. Looking for better win could further lead to loss. Sometimes continued loss and looking for recovery of what we have lost end up our fund in much short time than getting prolonged. As a gambler we shouldn't be confident with our gambling activity, here success is upon when to stop.
I have learned so many things from gambling so far,and they are similar to your experience.Before,I used to think untill I have won,I will never quit or stop gambling for that day,but after losing so much money because of that,I have learned to stop if I'm having a bad day,and my luck is not effective for me to win games that day.One thing about gambling is that,some days are always bad,while some days are good.If that day will be bad,the first,second and third time you will play,you will lose.Days like that you don't need to continue playing,just know that it is a bad day for you,and stop gambling, otherwise,you will cry for your money,while days that will be good,you might win after the first or the second hand,then just know that that day is your day,you can play as much as possible because what ever you play,will turn out to be winnings,but in the process,if you notice that you have started loosing again,just stop and go home with the one you've won that day, because if you continue to play more,they will take back the money won already.
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November 17, 2023, 07:50:56 PM
#51
If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.


No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.


If you are there for a night out and if you win it's a bonus, then why would doubling your money come into play? Are you there to gamble and make money or there to have a good time win or lose? Seems a little contradictory is all i'm saying.

I think your thought is correct, make double what I came with and leave. Some casinos also have other events such as concerts and game shows. For a good time, get tickets and go on these night.
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November 17, 2023, 06:26:58 PM
#50
What I get from the gambling that I have been doing. And what is my conclusion regarding gambling, I conclude that gambling is detrimental and even very detrimental, but gambling is also very fun.

And whether we realize it or not, even if we are quite skilled at controlling our own gambling activities and are able to win in gambling, it is only a substitute for our previous failures and even if we calculate these wins, they will not be enough to compensate for the losses we have experienced so far. Unless you are lucky enough and get a big win up to many times the amount of your bet. And even this gambling can be very detrimental, when we are not able to control ourselves over the gambling we do.
But even so, gambling is very, very fun, so even though someone is often disappointed by the gambling they play, because they lose too often. However, this will not dampen his enthusiasm for returning to the gambling table.

I personally gamble because I think it is my pleasure. And as long as I am still able to control myself, I am also able to accept the defeats I experience and am able to manage my finances. I consider that this is fine.
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November 17, 2023, 06:23:30 PM
#49
Doesn't really matter if the reason you go to the casino is to have fun while earning and it might be a good thing to stop when you're ahead but it's hard to stop when you go to there to have fun and instantly doubled your money the first thing you do. If you're okay with it then go cash it out but if you want to have fun, then you continue gambling and try to earn more even with small bets.
Also, I beg to disagree about gambling is statistically impossible to win rather the probability of you maintaining your winnings while playing longer drop lower the longer you play but it isn't impossible.
I think it's impossible, well that's my own opinion on the issue anyways, I think if you continue gambling when you are on a winning streak there would be a point when you would run out and the losses will kick in and no matter what strategy you use , if you are lucky then you will find your self losing everything back and even your initial funds used to start up. That's why when I gamble, although the fun aspect is there but I still do set limit to my achievement or winning and if I see that it's okay to go, I carefully leave and stop playing.
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