What I've learned so far as a gambler - page 6.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 17, 2023, 04:58:05 AM

Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

No one actually visits the casino to have fun

How about people that will have $200 to have fun and using just like $0.1 on every game so that the time they are gambling can be prolonged? Did you know that some people will use the whole $200 at ones and see if they win or not.

The best approach that I have thought of is to use not more than your gambling budget but with the mindset that all can be lost as long as you can afford to lose it. But after winning, it is good to just quite for the day and not have the fun again.

The greed eventually starts to kick in and those people start raising their bets. Gambling with really small bets gets boring after a while.
I know this from personal experience and I'm a very moderate gambler.
Some gamblers start chasing loses while others start chasing bigger profits. Both options are totally wrong. The longer you stay at the casino, the bigger the chance to lose more and more money. I'm not criticizing gambling in general. Everyone is free to waste his money however he wants.
In my country, if you get into an offline casino and you accidentally win 10K, the casino owner will bring some thugs and they will kick you out of the casino without paying you any profits. Grin

That's why I don't want to visit any offline casinos. Most of them are probably owned by mobsters.

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Quote from: kojektea on December 23, 2023, 06:54:49 PM

so true. the only real wealth is the casino owner. I'm sure there is a lot of manipulation in the initial profit part of the strategy. Here we have to really be in control and really know when we can stop. Unfortunately for addicts who are even willing to spend their assets, they always think this is something that can generate wealth. without realizing they are having their assets drained. no matter how rich we are if we are gambling addicts it will make our assets run out no matter how people will take them. I always make this entertainment, play for fun without involving real assets.

I agree it's really hard to make a fortune from gambling if you can't control yourself. Gamblers will not have any fear of losing their wealth if they play on the gambling platform as a means of entertainment. Addicted gamblers can't control themselves so they suffer losses but you have to understand that there are risks involved this does not mean that you will lose all your money but it is not a guaranteed strategy for prosperity. When it comes to gambling you only need to take the right steps and use the tools or resources of your choice.

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Quote from: rozak on December 23, 2023, 10:45:11 PM

Quote from: Richbased on December 23, 2023, 10:36:35 PM

Though controlling ones gambling habits isn't really that easy as it may seems to be more especially if you've won on several occasions in the past but regardless, it is good to know ones limit in gambling as one doesn't need to play gambling at all time, you can even give a break for some time and come back again. Talking about being disciplined as a gambler, no matter how disciplined a gambler is he can't really record winning consistently as it always involves a win and lose process even if maybe the wins are higher than the losses by but at least the winning doesn't come consistently.

At least gamblers must be able to be disciplined in their behavior when they have to decide to leave gambling because of winning or because of a losing streak.
Often we as gamblers enjoy the game too much. and always want to get bigger wins. that's what gamblers sometimes miss.
I agree that every gambler must be disciplined in gambling. that's what separates an addicted gambler from a wise gambler.

Discipline is required when gambling so that we don't exceed our set limits and can gamble comfortably. But there are still many gamblers who cannot be disciplined in gambling, so they just gamble excessively and cannot control their gambling expenses. This should not happen to those who also gamble so that we don't experience problems like other gamblers. And if we feel that we don't have discipline, we must continue to train it so that with that discipline, we can gamble sufficiently and not chase wins or recover from losses.

Apart from that, by having strong discipline, we will not only use gambling to fill our free time but also for other more useful things. We can also choose or determine when we can gamble and when we have to do other activities, and this will help us to stay away from gambling addiction, which is the biggest problem that every gambler must avoid.

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Quote from: rozak on December 23, 2023, 10:45:11 PM

At least gamblers must be able to be disciplined in their behavior when they have to decide to leave gambling because of winning or because of a losing streak.
Often we as gamblers enjoy the game too much. and always want to get bigger wins. that's what gamblers sometimes miss.
I agree that every gambler must be disciplined in gambling. that's what separates an addicted gambler from a wise gambler.

from my experience as a gambler, discipline is indeed very important, but all of this must be done with the encouragement of a strong commitment because without the strength of commitment, discipline will not be strong and you can always be tempted by something in gambling and the commitment itself must be strengthened with a mindset or this is healthy assumption because anything related to money can definitely destroy our minds, while gambling is always related to money which can damage our commitment or discipline.

and the easiest way is just to value your money, bet a small amount that you can afford to lose and always keep the thought respecting money, of course you will continue to bet with the smallest amount and if you are lucky you will definitely stop soon and I call it a wise gambler.
It may seem very trivial, but if ignored, small things like this can pressure someone into becoming addicted.

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Quote from: rozak on December 23, 2023, 10:45:11 PM

Quote from: Richbased on December 23, 2023, 10:36:35 PM

Though controlling ones gambling habits isn't really that easy as it may seems to be more especially if you've won on several occasions in the past but regardless, it is good to know ones limit in gambling as one doesn't need to play gambling at all time, you can even give a break for some time and come back again. Talking about being disciplined as a gambler, no matter how disciplined a gambler is he can't really record winning consistently as it always involves a win and lose process even if maybe the wins are higher than the losses by but at least the winning doesn't come consistently.

At least gamblers must be able to be disciplined in their behavior when they have to decide to leave gambling because of winning or because of a losing streak.
Often we as gamblers enjoy the game too much. and always want to get bigger wins. that's what gamblers sometimes miss.
I agree that every gambler must be disciplined in gambling. that's what separates an addicted gambler from a wise gambler.

As a gambler, you must be able to be disciplined in carrying out your gambling activities by being clever in managing your finances and time so that you don't get too involved in the fun, and indeed sometimes gamblers lose track of time if they enjoy gambling too much so that this will cause them to lose control, gamblers should be able to apply self-disciplined, many gamblers are destroyed and lose all their finances due to not being able to use gambling wisely, if we can be disciplined then it will make us responsible gamblers.

So far, what I have learned in gambling is that we apply it responsibly, not spending a lot of money just to bet because gambling is full of risks. If we have entered the world of gambling, we must be prepared to lose our finances to gamble.

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 23, 2023, 07:55:41 PM

Quote from: kojektea on December 23, 2023, 06:54:49 PM

so true. the only real wealth is the casino owner. I'm sure there is a lot of manipulation in the initial profit part of the strategy. Here we have to really be in control and really know when we can stop. Unfortunately for addicts who are even willing to spend their assets, they always think this is something that can generate wealth. without realizing they are having their assets drained. no matter how rich we are if we are gambling addicts it will make our assets run out no matter how people will take them. I always make this entertainment, play for fun without involving real assets.

Good statement, though If luck permits you might hit that jackpot and change the direction of your gambling experience, but in terms of addicted gambler even how much money they've got from their sessions the will to earn more still dominate them, it's a problem which control is no longer active.

They needed to fix it or they will suffer from losing everything that they've got. This is common when a person lose control with how they handle their gambling participation.

If luck allows it is possible to hit the jackpot and change the experience, that is true and I agree with this statement.
But is it easy? I think it quite difficult and there are only handful of gamblers who have the chance to get the luck that results in the jackpot because the jackpot is the biggest prize and the casino will of course spend more money from the bankroll if the customer gets the jackpot.
I not saying that the casino will manipulate gamblers who might have the opportunity to win the jackpot, but on the other hand, have you forgotten that there are algorithms in game that make it difficult for gambler to win the jackpot?
Sometimes we expect too much and can't try to learn to accept what is or learn to accept everything we can get.
What actually makes it difficult for gamblers in terms of winning is the gamblers themselves because they can win but because of excessive ambition they have to continue playing and the winnings they have obtained are also used up in the additional session.

Control in gambling is the same as key to success, because self-control plays an important role in making gambler have wiser attitude.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 23, 2023, 10:36:35 PM

Quote from: Weawant on December 23, 2023, 07:54:24 PM

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Though controlling ones gambling habits isn't really that easy as it may seems to be more especially if you've won on several occasions in the past but regardless, it is good to know ones limit in gambling as one doesn't need to play gambling at all time, you can even give a break for some time and come back again. Talking about being disciplined as a gambler, no matter how disciplined a gambler is he can't really record winning consistently as it always involves a win and lose process even if maybe the wins are higher than the losses by but at least the winning doesn't come consistently.

Controlling gambling is difficult. Humans are wired to remember wins over losses. This deadly illusion makes winning seem more frequent than it is. The dopamine spike from wins blinds us to defeats. Gambling discipline goes beyond knowing when to stop. Understanding the psychology is key.

Please be honest. While your point about taking breaks is good, it's just the beginning. First, why gamble? For excitement? For fun? Maybe to avoid reality? Knowing these triggers is crucial. That's right - consistent winning is a gambling mirage. The system always favors the house. Winning streaks? They're temporary. Losses increase with longer play. In addition to discipline, one must be ruthlessly honest with oneself. Gambling is a game of chance, and the house usually wins.

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Quote from: Richbased on December 23, 2023, 10:36:35 PM

Though controlling ones gambling habits isn't really that easy as it may seems to be more especially if you've won on several occasions in the past but regardless, it is good to know ones limit in gambling as one doesn't need to play gambling at all time, you can even give a break for some time and come back again. Talking about being disciplined as a gambler, no matter how disciplined a gambler is he can't really record winning consistently as it always involves a win and lose process even if maybe the wins are higher than the losses by but at least the winning doesn't come consistently.

At least gamblers must be able to be disciplined in their behavior when they have to decide to leave gambling because of winning or because of a losing streak.
Often we as gamblers enjoy the game too much. and always want to get bigger wins. that's what gamblers sometimes miss.
I agree that every gambler must be disciplined in gambling. that's what separates an addicted gambler from a wise gambler.

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Quote from: Weawant on December 23, 2023, 07:54:24 PM

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Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

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successful gamblers are gamblers who know their limits and when they should stop. most gamblers only know how to hone their skills and how to win the game, but they don't learn how to stop themselves further, so that makes them make mistakes which make them lose their money, even though they should be able to make a profit. and therefore when a gambler can stop himself from gambling again, there he can be said to be a gambler who has matured in gambling and is not influenced by things he shouldn't.

Knowing your limit will help you a long way more than the quest to win more money but then most gamblers fail at it because they not only fail to know their limit but also fail to cultivate self control, this is one great habit that will help every gambler succeed much better than they would have if they had no control.

Gambling with discipline and self control is a lot more profitable than just gambling like that because some day you will be able to know when to stop regardless of how much you have lost and on another day you can turn out so profitable that you will aswell Ned to stop too before you loose everything back to the casino after winning enough to cover for your previous loss, basically any gambler who wants to consistently win gambling needs discipline and self control as it will help them a long way staying consistent both on good and bad days.

Though controlling ones gambling habits isn't really that easy as it may seems to be more especially if you've won on several occasions in the past but regardless, it is good to know ones limit in gambling as one doesn't need to play gambling at all time, you can even give a break for some time and come back again. Talking about being disciplined as a gambler, no matter how disciplined a gambler is he can't really record winning consistently as it always involves a win and lose process even if maybe the wins are higher than the losses by but at least the winning doesn't come consistently.

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Quote from: kojektea on December 23, 2023, 06:54:49 PM

so true. the only real wealth is the casino owner. I'm sure there is a lot of manipulation in the initial profit part of the strategy. Here we have to really be in control and really know when we can stop. Unfortunately for addicts who are even willing to spend their assets, they always think this is something that can generate wealth. without realizing they are having their assets drained. no matter how rich we are if we are gambling addicts it will make our assets run out no matter how people will take them. I always make this entertainment, play for fun without involving real assets.

Good statement, though If luck permits you might hit that jackpot and change the direction of your gambling experience, but in terms of addicted gambler even how much money they've got from their sessions the will to earn more still dominate them, it's a problem which control is no longer active.

They needed to fix it or they will suffer from losing everything that they've got. This is common when a person lose control with how they handle their gambling participation.

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Quote from: moneystery on December 09, 2023, 01:06:12 PM

Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

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successful gamblers are gamblers who know their limits and when they should stop. most gamblers only know how to hone their skills and how to win the game, but they don't learn how to stop themselves further, so that makes them make mistakes which make them lose their money, even though they should be able to make a profit. and therefore when a gambler can stop himself from gambling again, there he can be said to be a gambler who has matured in gambling and is not influenced by things he shouldn't.

Knowing your limit will help you a long way more than the quest to win more money but then most gamblers fail at it because they not only fail to know their limit but also fail to cultivate self control, this is one great habit that will help every gambler succeed much better than they would have if they had no control.

Gambling with discipline and self control is a lot more profitable than just gambling like that because some day you will be able to know when to stop regardless of how much you have lost and on another day you can turn out so profitable that you will aswell Ned to stop too before you loose everything back to the casino after winning enough to cover for your previous loss, basically any gambler who wants to consistently win gambling needs discipline and self control as it will help them a long way staying consistent both on good and bad days.

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Quote from: boyptc on December 23, 2023, 06:30:57 PM

Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already. Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

Yes, that's what they should do if they manage to get a win or that means being in a situation of pretty good luck, but unfortunately most of the gamblers can't do that, the urge out of hope for something bigger always appears when gamblers are in a winning situation, instead of withdrawing or cashing out to enjoy but what they choose is to apply greed by making previous wins as capital for a much bigger win, but the question is not that it is still uncertain? Or does that mean you don't know what the next session will be like? Obviously, it's nothing more than a hallucination that comes out of the excitement of being in a winning situation.

Usually in any case if you apply greed then usually the final result will always be disappointing, it's a fact that often happens if you choose to act greedy instead of cashing out and going to enjoy it. Therefore, if you have already won then I think the best option is to cash out rather than losing all your previous winnings because of applying greed and regretting it.

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Quote from: serjent05 on December 23, 2023, 07:10:40 PM

This is very true I am among the gamblers who wanted to challenge oneself, I experienced setting up a 30x challenge in my gambling session, while playing with an initial deposit of $20. I almost hit that 30x since I won around $500 in that sole session but somewhere along that session I lose control and got triggered making my 25x winnings depleted together with my bankroll. Although I am still good since I only gamble what I can afford to lose, anyone who has that experience can see it as a waste since winning 25x of the bankroll is already a great win but I became stubborn and insisted on hitting that 30x which resulted in a lost. Cheesy

The gambler who start the game with 20$ dollars will have the chance of 20 betting in the gambling site,because the gamblers should use the minimum of 1 dollars in each betting.If you play the game like dice of High-Low,you can easy multiple the money into x10 or x12.5 of your betting money.So this game had the risk of losing the money,but if you play with care.The possibility of winning from dice and High-Low will be more because both game was dependent on the probability.The gambler who had more analysis in the game probability would have been more accurate win from the gambling site.

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Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

This is very true I am among the gamblers who wanted to challenge oneself, I experienced setting up a 30x challenge in my gambling session, while playing with an initial deposit of $20. I almost hit that 30x since I won around $500 in that sole session but somewhere along that session I lose control and got triggered making my 25x winnings depleted together with my bankroll. Although I am still good since I only gamble what I can afford to lose, anyone who has that experience can see it as a waste since winning 25x of the bankroll is already a great win but I became stubborn and insisted on hitting that 30x which resulted in a lost. Cheesy

Quote from: Docnaster on December 23, 2023, 06:39:13 PM

In summary, what I have learnt in gambling is not to go much risky and do not alter your moderate gambling habit because of your friends exorbitant gambling nature.

True that, we should stick to our gambling practice of moderation and limitation. If we give in and remove our limitation because of a friend, we will end up ruining our financial status. Let our friends think what they want to think but we must stick to our responsible gambling routine.

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so true. the only real wealth is the casino owner. I'm sure there is a lot of manipulation in the initial profit part of the strategy. Here we have to really be in control and really know when we can stop. Unfortunately for addicts who are even willing to spend their assets, they always think this is something that can generate wealth. without realizing they are having their assets drained. no matter how rich we are if we are gambling addicts it will make our assets run out no matter how people will take them. I always make this entertainment, play for fun without involving real assets.

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Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

The only game where you have some power is in Poker, not the online one, this is the best game in casinos, as making profits off of bad players is possible.

As for Other games, You are at the mercy of the house.

No one actually visits the casino to have fun, you gotta trick the mind, I like to think of it has a fun night out and I am going to spend a few hundred dollars and have a good time and if I win it's a bonus, like I've said, you gotta trick the mind.

Always remember this, you are there to win a game where its statistically impossible to win at, it's not impossible to not understand this about gambling, a wise man once said, "if you want to make money with gambling, own a casino".

The trick when playing in a casino is coming in with friends. Never come in alone. Think of the casino as the accessory to your enjoyment and less about the reason why you wanna enjoy in the first place. If you do so otherwise you'll easily fall victim to the antics that most brick-and-mortar casinos employ to trick their players. Plus you're more susceptible to spending more than you can afford when with friends they can easily tell you when to stop and when to quit. I myself noticed this as I've been in casinos both alone and with company. 9 times out of ten I find myself spending more than what I initially intended to when I'm alone, while when I'm with friends before we even get to the casino we're already talking about how much we're just going to spend.

Thought I might just add this up to your things that you've known as a gambler since I noticed this one as well and thought I might share it with people in here. It's hard to trick the mind into thinking you're only gambling for fun when all you can think about before you open that door is money. So make it about something else and you're sure to enjoy every single moment of it.

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Quote from: Z390 on November 17, 2023, 04:40:02 AM

If you walk into a casino with $200 and you start playing with that $200 and you win $200, get the hell out, you simply just doubled your money, take your goddamn leave, what do you think you wanna do? Win a million dollars? You will go home empty handed.

The next thing that rings in your ear is you can still win another or more, that's the devil whipsering, the art of gambling is knowing when to stop.

Someone who walks into casino with $200 and have planned to win $2k cannot exit the casino prematurely. It doesn't matter if they doubled or tripled their capital, what matters to them is that they hit their expectations. In the real investment, to have 100% return is not easy. Even 20% return annually is near impossible for a genuine investment. But in gambling you can see someone who has made 3000% profits and yet they are not satisfied and that is the greed factor in gambling. Well, some can argue that it is the nature of gambling, meanwhile, the rich men stick to the principle of 50% return but high capital. That's the reason it seems that the rich has more winning ratio than the poor.

In summary, what I have learnt in gambling is not to go much risky and do not alter your moderate gambling habit because of your friends exorbitant gambling nature.

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Take the money and go away and that's going to make you happy already. Most of the gamblers are not satisfied with just a few bucks to hundreds of profits.

And that's why that instead of taking out money from the casino and be satisfied with it, many are not.

That's the reason why they keep on going on and they will have their own reasonable lessons when they've experienced these times.

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Quote from: bocyaj on December 23, 2023, 06:18:11 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on December 23, 2023, 08:07:17 AM

Depends on your ambition. If it's big enough, you can lose everything before getting there. Not only everything you have, but also everything you have borrowed. I can imagine this critical amount for me, for example. Since my biggest win on slots was never above $250, I think if my ambition was to win, say, $300 it would end up very badly for me long time ago. It's good that in reality I'm perfectly satisfied with winning around $20 from my 20 cents bet. Don't set goals too high, guys, especially for gambling.

The gambler who like to make the huge money in the gambling should not allow their emotions in the game.This was the biggest hidden strategy of the successful gamblers,they never get into depression after the loss.They will consider it as the game learning opportunity,So use the money to learn the game.Many gamblers learn more knowledge from the gambling by using the real money,they won’t complain about the gambling site after the loss.Because they know it’s not the end of the game,he will play many games in the gambling in the future.So this game is just an experience for them.Such gambler will arrange more money to play in the future game,because if the gamblers play with more capital will allow them to make more money in the future game.

Be mindful on the actions that you would gonna do, because if you do let yourself that not be mindful on the actions that you are taking then you are really that bound to mess up your life
because of too much gambling on which we know that its never been that recommended that you do spend up tons of money with it or just because of that kind of hope on making huge money.
Gambling is really just that for fun and dont let yourself do really end up into a situation on which you are really that already experiencing those hardships just because you are
making those kind of delusional approach towards it. We do know that gambling for fun is something that should be on that way but people are really that going the other way around.

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Quote from: Betwrong on December 23, 2023, 08:07:17 AM

Depends on your ambition. If it's big enough, you can lose everything before getting there. Not only everything you have, but also everything you have borrowed. I can imagine this critical amount for me, for example. Since my biggest win on slots was never above $250, I think if my ambition was to win, say, $300 it would end up very badly for me long time ago. It's good that in reality I'm perfectly satisfied with winning around $20 from my 20 cents bet. Don't set goals too high, guys, especially for gambling.

The gambler who like to make the huge money in the gambling should not allow their emotions in the game.This was the biggest hidden strategy of the successful gamblers,they never get into depression after the loss.They will consider it as the game learning opportunity,So use the money to learn the game.Many gamblers learn more knowledge from the gambling by using the real money,they won’t complain about the gambling site after the loss.Because they know it’s not the end of the game,he will play many games in the gambling in the future.So this game is just an experience for them.Such gambler will arrange more money to play in the future game,because if the gamblers play with more capital will allow them to make more money in the future game.

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