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Quote from: Ebede on June 05, 2023, 06:06:40 PM

every person who is into gambling always need a bonus and if the person should choose or pick a ball or the person will be careful in Spain because you can spin and the get more money because it is just something of trying of your luck or your chance of getting whatever thing you want to get with a bonus

Not really because I don't always expect to get a bonus, especially if there are requirements that I can't fulfill. Not all bonuses come with easy terms, so we have to consider them before trying to get them. If you think you can meet the requirements before getting the bonus, you can try it and see if you manage to get the bonus or not. Many have tried to get bonuses but many have failed because they could not meet the specified requirements. This is why we must be wise in dealing with each bonus from the casino and not try to take it immediately if we do not know the terms.

You're right from this perspective, if one can consider the requirements for a bonus before enrollment would have been better because many would have started but couldn't complete the task for the eligibility as some criterials looked upon seems unaffordable by them, if we want fulfill the terms on each bonus then we have to create time in understanding the requirements and procedures, we should both enjoy the common interest of each other as you provide the casinos your own service they reward you back in appreciate with bonus.

And by understanding the terms and procedures, we won't be wrong in taking the bonuses we want and missing bonuses we can't afford to achieve. As gamblers, we must be wise in taking bonuses and estimating which bonuses we can take so that it won't be difficult for us. With the requirements that we can achieve, of course, we can also get bonuses so that it's not in vain that we play gambling. While we are playing gambling, maybe we can also get big wins so if we want to withdraw the winning money, there will be no problem because we have complied requirements and followed the procedure.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on June 06, 2023, 07:22:09 AM

Slot machines also have a higher house edge which is why the chances of winning for players are mostly low, that is why people tend to lose more than winning in slots unless a person is too lucky and manages to get a big win in the initial stage of their gambling session and then if they are responsible gamblers, they would simply withdraw if they can and have met the wagering requirements.

Even if you get a big win early on, the house edge tends to eat up your winnings while you are trying to meet the wagering requirements. I remember when I opened my account at a popular crypto casino. I am not going to mention the name because it doesn't matter for the point I am making. I triggered a massive jackpot at a low initial wager and won loads. I though there is no way I am going to lose all of this and will surely meet the rollover requirements. I wasn't even close. I lost all bonus money before even reaching 10x of the 35x playthrough that was needed to convert the bonus funds into real money. It's really difficult to win anything from welcome bonuses, but they are a nice illusion.

Quote from: panjul07 on June 06, 2023, 08:43:13 AM

If you do search by google or something else, try a keyword RTP of ...... fill the blank with any game except slot and I'm sure you will find the information.

That's correct, but it's worth noting that a slot game can have various versions of the same game, allowing the casino to choose which ones they will include on their platform. For example, the same game can come with 3 different RTP ranges (95.60%, 95.74%, 96.04%, etc.).

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 06, 2023, 04:55:28 AM

Quote from: Ebede on June 05, 2023, 06:06:40 PM

every person who is into gambling always need a bonus and if the person should choose or pick a ball or the person will be careful in Spain because you can spin and the get more money because it is just something of trying of your luck or your chance of getting whatever thing you want to get with a bonus

Not really because I don't always expect to get a bonus, especially if there are requirements that I can't fulfill. Not all bonuses come with easy terms, so we have to consider them before trying to get them. If you think you can meet the requirements before getting the bonus, you can try it and see if you manage to get the bonus or not. Many have tried to get bonuses but many have failed because they could not meet the specified requirements. This is why we must be wise in dealing with each bonus from the casino and not try to take it immediately if we do not know the terms.

You're right from this perspective, if one can consider the requirements for a bonus before enrollment would have been better because many would have started but couldn't complete the task for the eligibility as some criterials looked upon seems unaffordable by them, if we want fulfill the terms on each bonus then we have to create time in understanding the requirements and procedures, we should both enjoy the common interest of each other as you provide the casinos your own service they reward you back in appreciate with bonus.

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You guys may wanna look at some of our articles about RTP and slot specs, especially the last one is pretty interesting IMO.

https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/guides/gambling/how-to-understand-rtp-and-volatility-in-bitcoin-slots/

https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/guides/gambling/what-is-house-edge-rtp-in-gambling/

https://www.btcgosu.com/blog/guides/gambling/do-win-defining-slot-specs-really-matter/

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Quote from: tusandii on June 01, 2023, 04:49:32 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on May 30, 2023, 01:09:31 PM

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But as far as I know RTP is really only for slots, maybe for other games there is a kind of RTP as you explained, namely the house edge, it's just that I actually think that RTP and house edge are different.
This is just a response and understanding from each gambler, so it's only natural that we have differences of opinion, but I appreciate the difference in assumptions.

RTP and House Edge is basically the same, the main difference is that RTP is a terminology made from the player's side while House Edge is terminology made from the casino/house's side.
If you do search by google or something else, try a keyword RTP of ...... fill the blank with any game except slot and I'm sure you will find the information.
Do the same with keyword house edge and you will see that basically both works the same but it is seen from 2 different sides only.

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Quote from: Pmalek on June 05, 2023, 01:15:40 PM

Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:12:59 AM

It seems that we can only find RTP in slot games and I have never found RTP in games other than slots.

All casino games have payout percentages, house edge, or RTP rates. It's just a matter of how they call it and whether and where they make the data public. In fact, slot games are casino products with the worst odds of winning for the player. The average is between 95-97%. On the other hand, popular card game variants can go above 99%. That's one of the reasons why casino bonuses are tied to slot game wagering and not blackjack, for example.

Slot machines also have a higher house edge which is why the chances of winning for players are mostly low, that is why people tend to lose more than winning in slots unless a person is too lucky and manages to get a big win in the initial stage of their gambling session and then if they are responsible gamblers, they would simply withdraw if they can and have met the wagering requirements.

Even though slot machines are the most popular casino games, especially on online platforms, people usually don't want to receive free spins as a bonus for their deposits and want rebates or cashback that they can use in any game that they wish to play, and I'm also one of them.

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Quote from: Ebede on June 05, 2023, 06:06:40 PM

every person who is into gambling always need a bonus and if the person should choose or pick a ball or the person will be careful in Spain because you can spin and the get more money because it is just something of trying of your luck or your chance of getting whatever thing you want to get with a bonus

Not really because I don't always expect to get a bonus, especially if there are requirements that I can't fulfill. Not all bonuses come with easy terms, so we have to consider them before trying to get them. If you think you can meet the requirements before getting the bonus, you can try it and see if you manage to get the bonus or not. Many have tried to get bonuses but many have failed because they could not meet the specified requirements. This is why we must be wise in dealing with each bonus from the casino and not try to take it immediately if we do not know the terms.

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Quote from: Betcrypto.cr on May 07, 2023, 11:52:11 PM

Hi we are changing the reward system and we would like to have some feedback before launch the new system

What kind of rewards/bonuses do you like ?

Welcome bonuses , cashback , freespins etc ?

or what kind of rewards would you like to see in an online casino ?

Thanks

You mean, he won 8000$, then he can't release it because KYC submission is required? right? that's the poicy of the casino, you must do and give them what they want or else you won't really get your winning price on their gambling platform. Then if the casino can be trusted and there is a lot of community built here, why not give kyc if this will be the key to pull out your winning, it's just common sense and there is no need to increase the price.

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Quote from: Betcrypto.cr on May 07, 2023, 11:52:11 PM

Hi we are changing the reward system and we would like to have some feedback before launch the new system

What kind of rewards/bonuses do you like ?

Welcome bonuses , cashback , freespins etc ?

or what kind of rewards would you like to see in an online casino ?

Thanks

welcome bonus, cashback and freespin...why don't you try doing these three gradually over several periods, not all at once so that players will always be interested and feel at home on your gambling site.

users really like to be pampered with various kinds of bonuses and interesting events, so don't ever stop presenting interesting things to users, it's like users are addicted to playing on your site because of the bonuses and good service you provide.

Free spin is one of the bonus gamblers would like to enjoy most on a gambling casinos. There are other bonus too that would make sense for us ranging for different perspectives of opinions. Bonus is one of the things that are making gambling to stick to a casino because of the random benefits that we can earn that will give us good profits as a user of the casino.

every person who is into gambling always need a bonus and if the person should choose or pick a ball or the person will be careful in Spain because you can spin and the get more money because it is just something of trying of your luck or your chance of getting whatever thing you want to get with a bonus

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Quote from: Betcrypto.cr on May 07, 2023, 11:52:11 PM

Hi we are changing the reward system and we would like to have some feedback before launch the new system

What kind of rewards/bonuses do you like ?

Welcome bonuses , cashback , freespins etc ?

or what kind of rewards would you like to see in an online casino ?

Thanks

I think that the particular business that will be of more benefit for people who is in gambling and who also operate in some particular platform that give bonuses is spinning free spinning is the one that will give you money because you are trying Your Love and dialogue to something that you are seeing so when you partake well then you earn more money because I have seen many people who is not in that campaign or any idea how can burn that my True this particular platform

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Quote from: macson on June 05, 2023, 01:30:38 PM

Quote from: Betcrypto.cr on May 07, 2023, 11:52:11 PM

Hi we are changing the reward system and we would like to have some feedback before launch the new system

What kind of rewards/bonuses do you like ?

Welcome bonuses , cashback , freespins etc ?

or what kind of rewards would you like to see in an online casino ?

Thanks

welcome bonus, cashback and freespin...why don't you try doing these three gradually over several periods, not all at once so that players will always be interested and feel at home on your gambling site.

users really like to be pampered with various kinds of bonuses and interesting events, so don't ever stop presenting interesting things to users, it's like users are addicted to playing on your site because of the bonuses and good service you provide.

Free spin is one of the bonus gamblers would like to enjoy most on a gambling casinos. There are other bonus too that would make sense for us ranging for different perspectives of opinions. Bonus is one of the things that are making gambling to stick to a casino because of the random benefits that we can earn that will give us good profits as a user of the casino.

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Quote from: Betcrypto.cr on May 07, 2023, 11:52:11 PM

Hi we are changing the reward system and we would like to have some feedback before launch the new system

What kind of rewards/bonuses do you like ?

Welcome bonuses , cashback , freespins etc ?

or what kind of rewards would you like to see in an online casino ?

Thanks

welcome bonus, cashback and freespin...why don't you try doing these three gradually over several periods, not all at once so that players will always be interested and feel at home on your gambling site.

users really like to be pampered with various kinds of bonuses and interesting events, so don't ever stop presenting interesting things to users, it's like users are addicted to playing on your site because of the bonuses and good service you provide.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:12:59 AM

It seems that we can only find RTP in slot games and I have never found RTP in games other than slots.

All casino games have payout percentages, house edge, or RTP rates. It's just a matter of how they call it and whether and where they make the data public. In fact, slot games are casino products with the worst odds of winning for the player. The average is between 95-97%. On the other hand, popular card game variants can go above 99%. That's one of the reasons why casino bonuses are tied to slot game wagering and not blackjack, for example.

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^ The reason could be some gamblers may consider them a trap if they overlook or fail to fully understand those terms. Because this is very important to look at first, go to the TOS and read them all to understand everything. Because usually in TOS, wagering requirements are a common practice in the industry, serving as a means for casinos to protect their interests and ensure fair play. These requirements typically outline the number of times a bonus amount or winnings must be wagered before they can be withdrawn.

The question is, do we really have those classes of gamblers who never read the TOS of casinos but want to claim bonuses, this is something I find hard to believe and for some reason, I will say those sets of gamblers are deliberately doing that just to call out the casino unnecessarily.

But on a personal note, the reason why I avoid bonuses is due to it wager requirement and the tendency to lose my winning trying to meet up with the wager requirements.

I believe there are still some gamblers who dont bother to read and understand the whole terms of bonuses before they decide to take/claim it. Most of them are newbies who have just started their gambling journey, maybe because they are attracted with a big banner like "100%-200% welcome bonus" so they think they will have more money to play (which is correct) but they have no idea that there are some rules behind the bonus. I will not deny the fact that I was in this situation when I was a newbie long time ago, when I made my first deposit ever in online casino and I claimed a 100% deposit bonus.

You are right in that sense, at some point I was a novice and yes, one falls for this type of bonds, because 100% means that they double the capital, that is something wonderful, but over time I realized that something is not pink color, that everything they do is to attract, it is very difficult to win once a bonus is taken in this way, apart from the money that was deposited, it is spent very quickly and if the player is a novice, and has no technique to make bets Because you lose your money very quickly and it can cause you frustration , this is something that in the long run can cause Addiction.

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Quote from: klidex on June 01, 2023, 03:19:41 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on May 08, 2023, 02:25:13 AM

The type of rewards/bonuses doesn’t matter at all because gamblers is looking on the requirements rather than the reward itself. A 1$ bonus in any form without any wagering requirements is better than a 100 bucks with high wagering requirements that is very hard to claim. Gamblers usually not interested on the bonus once the saw the requirements while some that got excited usually regret they action after seeing the requirements.

Make the requirements friendly even with low amount reward. I’m sure many will be interested to participate on your promotion.

Very good thinking, I agree with you.
It would be a waste to give any bonus with a large amount but have conditions that are difficult to get but much more fun if the concept is changed with a small promotional prize with conditions that are much easier to achieve, definitely very enjoyable.
But it seems difficult for casino owners to implement this option because for casinos the method of distributing promotional prizes will not be profitable for casinos so they prefer to use large promotional prizes but conditions that are difficult to achieve.

We, as a gambler all, love that casinos can give us a lot of free money and bounces with very less wagering requirements, but in reality, if casinos start doing that they will be giving too much free money to hundreds and thousands of their users who will only withdraw it or use it as a free play and casino will have no advantage for this free show.

Casinos, on the other hand, are very clever in the sense that they not only give us free bonuses but with high wagering requirements making it impossible to cash it out and yet their marketing is also done but without have to give any real withdrawals because almost 99% of the people won't be able to complete the withdrawal requirements.

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Quote from: klidex on June 01, 2023, 03:19:41 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on May 08, 2023, 02:25:13 AM

The type of rewards/bonuses doesn’t matter at all because gamblers is looking on the requirements rather than the reward itself. A 1$ bonus in any form without any wagering requirements is better than a 100 bucks with high wagering requirements that is very hard to claim. Gamblers usually not interested on the bonus once the saw the requirements while some that got excited usually regret they action after seeing the requirements.

Make the requirements friendly even with low amount reward. I’m sure many will be interested to participate on your promotion.

Very good thinking, I agree with you.
It would be a waste to give any bonus with a large amount but have conditions that are difficult to get but much more fun if the concept is changed with a small promotional prize with conditions that are much easier to achieve, definitely very enjoyable.
But it seems difficult for casino owners to implement this option because for casinos the method of distributing promotional prizes will not be profitable for casinos so they prefer to use large promotional prizes but conditions that are difficult to achieve.

Just common sense because they are building a business and not a charity on which they would really be that normally be setting out those hard to reach or comply kind of requirements before a certain user would be able to withdraw and they wouldnt really be making it easy because if they do then that would really be giving a huge effect on casinos revenue or profitability.This is why it would really be just a normal approach that they would really be making some big bonus or add up but the requirements wouldnt really be that so simple, which means that most gambler who do took the bonus would really be likely
to lose it all in the process or on the time that they do play.

This is why im not really that much interested when it comes to these bonuses on which you couldnt really assure yourself on getting out. Better not to activate that bonuses and would
really be just playing simply with your pure balance which you had deposited and wont be minding about those huge and impossible wager requirements.

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Quote from: dimonstration on May 08, 2023, 02:25:13 AM

The type of rewards/bonuses doesn’t matter at all because gamblers is looking on the requirements rather than the reward itself. A 1$ bonus in any form without any wagering requirements is better than a 100 bucks with high wagering requirements that is very hard to claim. Gamblers usually not interested on the bonus once the saw the requirements while some that got excited usually regret they action after seeing the requirements.

Make the requirements friendly even with low amount reward. I’m sure many will be interested to participate on your promotion.

Very good thinking, I agree with you.
It would be a waste to give any bonus with a large amount but have conditions that are difficult to get but much more fun if the concept is changed with a small promotional prize with conditions that are much easier to achieve, definitely very enjoyable.
But it seems difficult for casino owners to implement this option because for casinos the method of distributing promotional prizes will not be profitable for casinos so they prefer to use large promotional prizes but conditions that are difficult to achieve.

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Quote from: danadc on May 31, 2023, 11:05:06 AM

The RTP thing is a topic that made me investigate it a lot because I don't handle those terms well, and here a user corrected me when I talked about the RTP being exclusively for slots, so if there is something like this for slots, why doesn't it exist? something similar for the other games in casinos? everyone talks about Provably Fair, but it's not the same, I see that slots have their RTP, but there are some casinos that don't show it or have it very hidden in their games, so these are details that we as players should always look for.

If you want to play gambling for fun, you don't need to worry about RTP or other terms. Our goal is just to have fun, so it's better to focus on that and only plays gambling at trusted casinos so that we don't experience problems Proven Fair or Unfair. And even though casinos don't show it or are very hidden, we don't have to think about it because our goal is to play and have fun. If you keep thinking about it, you probably won't find the fun of gambling and will look for it until you find it.

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 30, 2023, 01:09:31 PM

Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:12:59 AM

But it seems like most bonuses do have buddy wagering requirements regardless of the amount bet that has to be met but in reality it's like that.

Depends on what kind bonuses we are talking about, if it is something like welcome bonus, deposit bonus, free spins, etc then yes these bonuses come with wagering requirement.
But we are talking about something like rakeback, level up reward, or any reward that we get after wagering, there is no wagering requirement.

Yes, what you said is correct, I agree with that explanation because each bonus has a different meaning regarding the requirements.
Rakeback for VIP level bonuses can indeed be obtained when gamblers have finished betting and this does not require any requirements, it's just that there are requirements to get a certain VIP level such as the deposit amount or the amount of wagger collected.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 30, 2023, 10:12:59 AM

It seems that we can only find RTP in slot games and I have never found RTP in games other than slots.

RTP is basically available in all games, in other games than slot, usually it is known as House Edge.
Lets say a RTP of a slot game is 96.5%, it means that the house edge of this slot is 100-96.5= 3.5%
While in other games lets say dice with 1% house edge, the RTP of this dice is 100-1= 99%
I might be wrong but this is what I understand.

But as far as I know RTP is really only for slots, maybe for other games there is a kind of RTP as you explained, namely the house edge, it's just that I actually think that RTP and house edge are different.
This is just a response and understanding from each gambler, so it's only natural that we have differences of opinion, but I appreciate the difference in assumptions.

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Quote from: danadc on May 31, 2023, 11:05:06 AM

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Quote from: Pmalek on May 28, 2023, 02:41:35 AM

I like bonuses that aren't tied to unreachable wagering requirements of 40x and more when we are talking about casino games. There seems to be too much focus on bonus offers for slot games (I know why). Still, I would prefer a nice push for live dealer games and offerings with high RTPs.
Because I am a fan of sports betting and not casino games, I like free bets, bet boosters, and cashback on the whole turnover, not just the lost bets.

But it seems like most bonuses do have buddy wagering requirements regardless of the amount bet that has to be met but in reality it's like that.
It seems that we can only find RTP in slot games and I have never found RTP in games other than slots.
You are the same as me who prefer sports betting compared to casino games because to be honest I myself have recently started to get a little bored with games and can get more satisfaction from sports betting.
So far the bonus that I always get is unfortunately only cashback and I have never gotten a free bet.

The RTP thing is a topic that made me investigate it a lot because I don't handle those terms well, and here a user corrected me when I talked about the RTP being exclusively for slots, so if there is something like this for slots, why doesn't it exist? something similar for the other games in casinos? everyone talks about Provably Fair, but it's not the same, I see that slots have their RTP, but there are some casinos that don't show it or have it very hidden in their games, so these are details that we as players should always look for.

Your comment reminds me of an old saying: "Not all that glitters is gold." The dazzling world of online gambling is filled with bonuses and offers, but the wagering requirements are often the catch. They're like a riddle wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma! Now, as far as RTP is concerned, it's mostly a 'slots thing' because they’re programmed with a set payout rate. Imagine playing chess but knowing beforehand how many games you're going to lose – it takes away from the skill element!

You mentioned an interest in sports betting over casino games - a change is as good as a rest, as they say! There's something satisfying about watching a game play out and seeing if your prediction hits the mark. On the topic of Provably Fair and RTP, they're different beasts in the same jungle. One is all about fairness of the game mechanics (blockchain stuff), the other about the expected payout over time (casino stuff). It's like trying to compare apples and oranges, both fruits but with different tastes!

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