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Topic: What's more lucrative - mining or high rank signature campaign? - page 3. (Read 5150 times)

legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
well maybe 2 is too far stretched, but 1 btc is possible for sure, (i'm making more with bit-x right now), and with primedice also, i was making 1+ btc in some months

with mining you will barely roi..

I do both.  I get a fews coins a year  posting and a few coins a year mining.

Game is very hard right now.

I've tried the mining route and lost thousands. The sig. campaign route creates a little folding money to keep. (Except when there's a UFC PPV, I tend to lose a bit to the books.)

Were you mining at home?   Mind if i ask how the loss of thousands?
hero member
Activity: 584
Merit: 500
1) Mining, or
2) Sig Campaign

My answer: Neither

I used to mine, and currently participating in a signature campaign. Granted my mining was hobby mining the signature campaign I am in is not the highest paying ones, but in neither I can realistically see anyone unless its a big farm or multiple accounts getting to 25BTC.

If you have rephrased the question to 1BTC or even 2.5BTC then you would get some answer. In that case mine is signature campaign.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 500
well maybe 2 is too far stretched, but 1 btc is possible for sure, (i'm making more with bit-x right now), and with primedice also, i was making 1+ btc in some months

with mining you will barely roi..

I do both.  I get a fews coins a year  posting and a few coins a year mining.

Game is very hard right now.

I've tried the mining route and lost thousands. The sig. campaign route creates a little folding money to keep. (Except when there's a UFC PPV, I tend to lose a bit to the books.)
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
well maybe 2 is too far stretched, but 1 btc is possible for sure, (i'm making more with bit-x right now), and with primedice also, i was making 1+ btc in some months

with mining you will barely roi..

I do both.  I get a fews coins a year  posting and a few coins a year mining.

Game is very hard right now.
legendary
Activity: 3206
Merit: 1069
well maybe 2 is too far stretched, but 1 btc is possible for sure, (i'm making more with bit-x right now), and with primedice also, i was making 1+ btc in some months

with mining you will barely roi..
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
with the right signature campaign, you can get much more than mining at the moment

with a senior in rank(you don't need hero, since they share the same rate) you can earn 1-2 bitcoin a month easily, maybe even more, so a block in less than a year

with mining unless you run a big farm and very cheap electricity and you also made roi or at least 1/2 of roi, you can't match that

there are not many signature campaigns at the 2 btc a month mark that can be signed up for as of today.  Used to be

Well even back when Primedice was around H@C didn't get to that level and he was and still is one busy posting machine
And also one flag it and tag it moderation device  Cheesy

To tease him a bit H@C is a Staff Member earning 0.0013 a month from his PrimeDice Signature to earn 25 BTC he must post
25/0.0013 = 19,230 Posts
Assuming that he started when he was a new member to the forum and has been with Stunna ever since he's about half way to his goal including the lower rate he earned when he was still a member rank and before his November 2014 promotion to staff in other words keep chugging along H@C keep riding the Choo Choo train to Freedom XD

Now if he converted to the darkside and joined Bit-X on the other hand it would be 0.0014 so pop quiz how many posts less would it be to hit the 25 BTC goal from 0 kidding just teasing ya.

To sum it up with mining its near negative ROI factoring electricity unit cost and difficulty
With a signature the return is a pure return no other costs besides time to post included.

(Edit)
Well forgot to add moderation income from Theymos 5 BTC to go nice you should go buy some shiny things ^^
https://blockchain.info/address/1BxtA9j2qD9KZKnrihiuB7YmZT8rr6Rimh
sr. member
Activity: 756
Merit: 250
Infleum
I would agree 2 BTC a month would be a ton at this point per month.  I'm sure there are a select number getting it or higher but very very few.

Most have a limit much lower on pay.
I really doubt anybody is making 2BTC a month from a sig campaign. Maybe if you're posting in it and running it at the same time, or if you have 10 alts and are squeezing posts 24/7, but some people tried that and got bans on all their accounts. I read about a guy who was making like over over 100 posts a month for PD but got banned after a month or two.

At the moment if you're making over 1BTC a month you're probably spamming the shit out of this forum  Grin

hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
This one pays .035/week. It´s chicken feed but I´ll take it. Maybe there´ll be more lucrative alternatives later.

Good luck, g
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
with the right signature campaign, you can get much more than mining at the moment

with a senior in rank(you don't need hero, since they share the same rate) you can earn 1-2 bitcoin a month easily, maybe even more, so a block in less than a year

with mining unless you run a big farm and very cheap electricity and you also made roi or at least 1/2 of roi, you can't match that

there are not many signature campaigns at the 2 btc a month mark that can be signed up for as of today.  Used to be

I would agree 2 BTC a month would be a ton at this point per month.  I'm sure there are a select number getting it or higher but very very few.

Most have a limit much lower on pay.
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
with the right signature campaign, you can get much more than mining at the moment

with a senior in rank(you don't need hero, since they share the same rate) you can earn 1-2 bitcoin a month easily, maybe even more, so a block in less than a year

with mining unless you run a big farm and very cheap electricity and you also made roi or at least 1/2 of roi, you can't match that

there are not many signature campaigns at the 2 btc a month mark that can be signed up for as of today.  Used to be
legendary
Activity: 3206
Merit: 1069
with the right signature campaign, you can get much more than mining at the moment

with a senior in rank(you don't need hero, since they share the same rate) you can earn 1-2 bitcoin a month easily, maybe even more, so a block in less than a year

with mining unless you run a big farm and very cheap electricity and you also made roi or at least 1/2 of roi, you can't match that
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
So, this isn't a self serving question, just curiosity.

What's going to get you to 25 BTC faster, mining or dedication to a signature campaign with a high rank (Sr Member or Hero)?

Maybe the better question is how long does it take for a miner to get their first block reward (of 25 BTC)? I can figure out the breakeven on the sig campaigns.

Based on your timing guess, how much equipment investment is required?

I have earned about 4 coins in a year with signature campaign. I post like mad I did this before I ever signed up for a campaign .

I do not think 4 coins a year is easy but 3 via signature can be done.

As for mining.  Much harder to figure. But lets say you grabbed the sp-tech 15 miner farm for 5500usd.

 Lets say you run 10 at 1200gh and sold 5 for 450 usd each.

All of the above is possible but not likely.  this would mean the 10 you mine with cost you  3250 usd .  toss in 5 good psu's and you are 4000 out of pocket.

 you started jan 1 .  so you mined for  72 days so far.

your power = 10 x 600 x 24 a day that is 144 kwatts or 14.40 a day at 10 cents make it 15 bucks a day in 71 days you spent  1065 + 4000 = 5065

what did you earn? hash rate was about 44.4 for those 71 days and 12th earns .1358 btc x 71 = 9.6418 btc x 293 usd = 2825 usd against 5065 spent  so you are losing  2240 usd. next 71 days you spend the same 1065 on power   you are 3305 in the hole

lets say diff is slow grow and you get 9 coins lets say that coins go to 300 that us 2700.  so 142 days into this year you are 3305-2700 or 605 in the hole.

71 more days 1065 for power  so 605 + 1065 = 1670 in the hole earn 8 coins slow diff grow coins go up a little bit to 325  8 x 325 = 2600

so 2600 - 1670 =  930 ahead 213 days into 2015   which at 325 a coin = 2.861 coins at july 31st 2015.

all gear paid off 10 machines on hand
global moderator
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P.S. CIYAM, if you're out there, i'm starting to see the frustration you see in people posting bullshit posts just to get paid...

That's pretty ironic. I don't see what 'bullshit' responses you've gotten here so far but you keep seeming to make bullshit topics/posts just to get paid. I'd suggest not asking stupid questions especially if you don't like getting appropriate responses to them.

So you're saying my question was stupid/vague/bullshit so I should expect answers of the same caliber?

Apologies to everyone if I came off as an ass. I'll try to improve my attitude.

I'm saying the responses to it weren't bullshit. You got completely valid and fairly constructive responses to your question but for some reason you decided they were 'bullshit'. I'm more inclined to believe this thread/question is bullshit and was created for the same reasons you falsely decry of others. I honestly don't know what responses you expected here especially given the lack of specific info which would be needed to give you a detailed/satisfactory answer.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Loose lips sink sigs!
P.S. CIYAM, if you're out there, i'm starting to see the frustration you see in people posting bullshit posts just to get paid...

That's pretty ironic. I don't see what 'bullshit' responses you've gotten here so far but you keep seeming to make bullshit topics/posts just to get paid. I'd suggest not asking stupid questions especially if you don't like getting appropriate responses to them.

So you're saying my question was stupid/vague/bullshit so I should expect answers of the same caliber?

Apologies to everyone if I came off as an ass. I'll try to improve my attitude.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Loose lips sink sigs!
If you have no money, join the Bit-X sig campaign. No limit to how many posts you make and payouts are weekly.

If you have money, you could try mining. The best money from mining comes from the lowest price of electricity.

There are no official limits via the campaign, but if the forum begins turning to garbage because of one person trying to make 25 BTC by mindless, constant posting- they will be suspended and make nothing...I've been around for a while, it is difficult to make 1-2 worthwhile posts in any given day.
Mining, even with low electricity costs becomes almost a certain loss unless the person is able to find themselves in the first batches of newest miners. Mines whatever possible for 2-3 weeks and SELLS the miner as fast as possible. If one cannot hit those spots, at this point in BTC time, they cannot make coin, most likely will have a negative ROI.

Best, easiest, fastest way to obtain 25 BTC...just BUY THEM and...that's it. Target hit.

Speaking of mindless posts, yours is a great example.

I'm not trying to "hit a target" i'm trying to figure out how long it takes to mine 25 BTC.

THanks to the moderator for putting this thread in a section that may have people who know!

Sorry didn't even notice that you were trying to hit a target.


Let's see.

1 post at Senior Member (You should be Senior this week)

.0014

It would take 17857 posts.

Assuming you post every 2 minutes a very constructive post, it would take you 24 days total assuming you did it 24 hours straight.

If you wanted to split this up, here is how long it would take:

1 hour a day = 30 Constructive Posts = 12 bucks = Approx 607-608 days (.042 BTC)
2 hours a day = 60 Constructive Posts = 24 bucks = 608/2 = 304 days (.084 BTC)
3 hours a day = 90 Constructive Posts = 36 bucks = 304/1.5 = 202 days (.126 BTC)
4 hours a day = 120 Constructive Posts = 48 bucks = 608/4 = 152 days (.168 BTC)
5 hours a day = 150 Constructive Posts = 60 bucks = 608/5 = 121 days (.21 BTC)
6 hours a day = 180 Constructive Posts = 72 bucks = 608/6 = approx 101 days (.252 BTC)

I won't go any further since I doubt you'd have the time past that amount.

This is the information you wanted, right?

I appreciate you doing the math. This isn't really what I was looking for but only because I don't agree with your assumptions. I was just looking for one of two answers:

1) Mining, or
2) Sig Campaign

Thanks for entertaining the question everyone. I know very little about mining, which is why the question was rather vague. I completely understand that there different size mining machines and different scale operations. I wasn't concerned about profitability, just revenue generation.
full member
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P.S. CIYAM, if you're out there, i'm starting to see the frustration you see in people posting bullshit posts just to get paid...

That's pretty ironic. I don't see what 'bullshit' responses you've gotten here so far but you keep seeming to make bullshit topics/posts just to get paid. I'd suggest not asking stupid questions especially if you don't like getting appropriate responses to them.

Awesome OP.

"PLEASE TELL ME HOW TO BECOME RICH NOW THANK YOU"

"YOU DON'T ANSWER MY QUESTION, ALL OF YOUR ARE GARBAGE. PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION"

I feel like this is some sort of new age version of Blowing in the Wind.
hero member
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So far, my two posts on here are nothing but constructive. They are relevant to the topic. I am a speed reader which is why I may tend to miss a few key points in your topic, but nonetheless, I try my very best to be relevant.
global moderator
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P.S. CIYAM, if you're out there, i'm starting to see the frustration you see in people posting bullshit posts just to get paid...

That's pretty ironic. I don't see what 'bullshit' responses you've gotten here so far but you keep seeming to make bullshit topics/posts just to get paid. I'd suggest not asking stupid questions especially if you don't like getting appropriate responses to them.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 500
If you have no money, join the Bit-X sig campaign. No limit to how many posts you make and payouts are weekly.

If you have money, you could try mining. The best money from mining comes from the lowest price of electricity.

There are no official limits via the campaign, but if the forum begins turning to garbage because of one person trying to make 25 BTC by mindless, constant posting- they will be suspended and make nothing...I've been around for a while, it is difficult to make 1-2 worthwhile posts in any given day.
Mining, even with low electricity costs becomes almost a certain loss unless the person is able to find themselves in the first batches of newest miners. Mines whatever possible for 2-3 weeks and SELLS the miner as fast as possible. If one cannot hit those spots, at this point in BTC time, they cannot make coin, most likely will have a negative ROI.

Best, easiest, fastest way to obtain 25 BTC...just BUY THEM and...that's it. Target hit.

Speaking of mindless posts, yours is a great example.

I'm not trying to "hit a target" i'm trying to figure out how long it takes to mine 25 BTC.

THanks to the moderator for putting this thread in a section that may have people who know!

Sorry didn't even notice that you were trying to hit a target.


Let's see.

1 post at Senior Member (You should be Senior this week)

.0014

It would take 17857 posts.

Assuming you post every 2 minutes a very constructive post, it would take you 24 days total assuming you did it 24 hours straight.

If you wanted to split this up, here is how long it would take:

1 hour a day = 30 Constructive Posts = 12 bucks = Approx 607-608 days (.042 BTC)
2 hours a day = 60 Constructive Posts = 24 bucks = 608/2 = 304 days (.084 BTC)
3 hours a day = 90 Constructive Posts = 36 bucks = 304/1.5 = 202 days (.126 BTC)
4 hours a day = 120 Constructive Posts = 48 bucks = 608/4 = 152 days (.168 BTC)
5 hours a day = 150 Constructive Posts = 60 bucks = 608/5 = 121 days (.21 BTC)
6 hours a day = 180 Constructive Posts = 72 bucks = 608/6 = approx 101 days (.252 BTC)

I won't go any further since I doubt you'd have the time past that amount.

This is the information you wanted, right?
hero member
Activity: 700
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Eternal, thank you!

I definitely realize my question was vague because a huge mining operation would get to 25 BTC faster than one machine in an apartment some where.

To use the calculator you shared I need some more education, what's an average hash rate? I have no idea.

I edited the previous post added dogies guide for shopping and comparisons that you can use to figure it out
But it depends entirely on what miner your using, if its a 2TH unit or a 1TH unit etc.

Example Bitmain Antminer S4 would generate 2TH
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NWHT18A/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00NWHT18A&linkCode=as2&tag=psu03-20&linkId=SVWZ67JRKPJ43JEG

Retails at around 900-1749 dollars and pays out 0.64 BTC month at present!
Which is 189.31/month according to the calculator
(Assuming no difficulty increases break even is in 5 to 10 months at this Bitcoin price sooner if the price rises, and later if it drops)

Factoring in future difficulty you may not get to 25 BTC with just one unit before it's just a waste of energy to have it running
(Kind of like running an asicminer USB stick at 320 mh at the present difficulty)
Can't say how high difficuly will be in 10 months but its a diminishing marginal return.

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