Topic: What's your opinion of gun control? - page 14. (Read 450491 times)
It is really appalling; the popular opinion here. I really can't seem to fathom how many of you are persuaded this way. Guns honestly should have no room in our society. It makes the country look like a war zone. If the sole purpose of a gun is to kill, then I do not consider that it is everyone's right to own one. If you're not in state defense, you really shouldn't own one. The idea of self-defense is just taking laws into your hands. Time has shown us that we can trust people with the capacity to kill their fellow human. In spite of the disaster even in recent times, our politicians are still adamant and upholding a weak stance concerning gun laws. It's really devastating.
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Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
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WTF is this? Some 'Spanish Inquisition' Monty Python sketch where they poke the old lady with a soft pillow?
This shit looks fake as hell to me. I say there is a very good chance that this whole 'antifa' thing is a stage show. It is clear that 'they' _want_ to get a big hoo-ha going between different 'factions' for social engineering purposes (e.g., and excuse to further dis-arm 'citizens' and further arm the paramilitaries), and I suspect that all manners of subterfuge would be used to achieve these goals. Every time I see one of these types of videos the whole ambiance screams 'fake' to me somehow. Not to say that some of the meth-heads recruited for these things won't do violent things on occasion, but the whole thing seems staged and engineered.
according to me, gun control is like having switch context or situation. formerly, gun control can be useful for everybody, especially he/she who were feeling threatened. but at the present, knowing that many terrorists appear, leading to judgment that government should rearrange the regulation about gun control. moreover, there are many gun control abuses that is worried for many people too.
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Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
Read more at http://allnewspipeline.com/Antifa_Calls_For_Sea_Of_Armed_Masses_Revolutionary_Violence.php.
Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
Read more at http://allnewspipeline.com/Antifa_Calls_For_Sea_Of_Armed_Masses_Revolutionary_Violence.php.
WTF is this? Some 'Spanish Inquisition' Monty Python sketch where they poke the old lady with a soft pillow?
This shit looks fake as hell to me. I say there is a very good chance that this whole 'antifa' thing is a stage show. It is clear that 'they' _want_ to get a big hoo-ha going between different 'factions' for social engineering purposes (e.g., and excuse to further dis-arm 'citizens' and further arm the paramilitaries), and I suspect that all manners of subterfuge would be used to achieve these goals. Every time I see one of these types of videos the whole ambiance screams 'fake' to me somehow. Not to say that some of the meth-heads recruited for these things won't do violent things on occasion, but the whole thing seems staged and engineered.
Antifa Calls For 'Sea Of Armed Masses, Militant Escalation' And 'Revolutionary Violence
Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
Read more at http://allnewspipeline.com/Antifa_Calls_For_Sea_Of_Armed_Masses_Revolutionary_Violence.php.
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By Susan Duclos - All News PipeLine
With the recent arrest of 16 Antifa members in Philadelphia where they showed up to protest a Blue Lives Matter rally, after clashing with police and chanting about killing officers, we note a couple of other disturbing bits of Antifa news that the liberal establishment media seems to determine to either ignore or downplay.
ANTIFA BRUTALLY ATTACKS ONE OF THEIR OWN FOR HOLDING AN AMERICAN FLAG
First let's start with an update to the August 4, 2018 rally and Antifa counter-protest in Portland, Oregon, because this is an example of how Antifa calls themselves "anti-fascists," but uses fascist tactics, even against their own supporters.
In our August 4th updates, via the comment section, we posted a very short clip showing Antifa members trying to take an American flag from a man, with one Antifa thug hitting the man with what appeared to be a club of some sort, then nailing him in the head, which is where that particular video ended.
The video below is a slightly longer clip, showing that the man that got hit in the head ended up falling to the ground, curled up and holding his head.
With the recent arrest of 16 Antifa members in Philadelphia where they showed up to protest a Blue Lives Matter rally, after clashing with police and chanting about killing officers, we note a couple of other disturbing bits of Antifa news that the liberal establishment media seems to determine to either ignore or downplay.
ANTIFA BRUTALLY ATTACKS ONE OF THEIR OWN FOR HOLDING AN AMERICAN FLAG
First let's start with an update to the August 4, 2018 rally and Antifa counter-protest in Portland, Oregon, because this is an example of how Antifa calls themselves "anti-fascists," but uses fascist tactics, even against their own supporters.
In our August 4th updates, via the comment section, we posted a very short clip showing Antifa members trying to take an American flag from a man, with one Antifa thug hitting the man with what appeared to be a club of some sort, then nailing him in the head, which is where that particular video ended.
The video below is a slightly longer clip, showing that the man that got hit in the head ended up falling to the ground, curled up and holding his head.
Portland antifa attack fellow counter-protester carrying American flag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwE620VkaD0
Read more at http://allnewspipeline.com/Antifa_Calls_For_Sea_Of_Armed_Masses_Revolutionary_Violence.php.
MSNBC makes their most INSANE claim ever (teachers want to kill!?)
Read more at https://thehornnews.com/msnbc-republican-teachers-kill-children/.
When a crazed student goes on a shooting rampage inside a school, President Donald Trump wants the teachers to be able to shoot back. But MSNBC believes they, and the children in their classrooms, should be sitting ducks – because armed Republican teachers would use it as an excuse to murder children of color.
Trump's secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, is considering giving federal grants to states so they can buy guns – and give teachers firearms training – to stop school shooters, the New York Times reported this week.
Nine states already gave teachers guns, or have firearms on campus, in case of a tragedy like the back-to-back school slaughters in Parkland, Florida, or Santa Fe, Texas.
A total of 27 kids died between the two – and in Parkland, a deputy stood outside and did nothing as he heard the shotgun blasts echo.
Trump says waiting for the police isn't enough to keep our kids safe and called for arming teachers in the aftermath. But in typical fashion, the suggestion has MSNBC and their Democratic allies freaking out.
Educators asked for that right, as well. The Texas Education Agency "sought clarification" from the Department of Education about whether it could use the grants to fund its "school marshal" program, which arms teachers.
That's good for children. After all, two Democratic presidential administrations found that law-abiding citizens used guns to defend themselves 1,138,534 times over 20 years.
But Congressional Democrats, and their supporters on the loony left, say the biggest danger facing students isn't school gunmen: It's Trump and racist Republicans.
"Let's spike this hare-brained idea before it gets off the ground," said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
The idea that threatened students won't be hiding under their desks has Democrats shaking in their boots. Not only would this stop their party's insane gun control agenda, but MSNBC worries the guns will somehow be used to further "racism."
Radical left-wing activists are "very worried about the racial impacts this will have, if you start arming teachers," contributor Yamiche Alcindor told an MSNBC panel.
Trump's secretary of education, Betsy DeVos, is considering giving federal grants to states so they can buy guns – and give teachers firearms training – to stop school shooters, the New York Times reported this week.
Nine states already gave teachers guns, or have firearms on campus, in case of a tragedy like the back-to-back school slaughters in Parkland, Florida, or Santa Fe, Texas.
A total of 27 kids died between the two – and in Parkland, a deputy stood outside and did nothing as he heard the shotgun blasts echo.
Trump says waiting for the police isn't enough to keep our kids safe and called for arming teachers in the aftermath. But in typical fashion, the suggestion has MSNBC and their Democratic allies freaking out.
Educators asked for that right, as well. The Texas Education Agency "sought clarification" from the Department of Education about whether it could use the grants to fund its "school marshal" program, which arms teachers.
That's good for children. After all, two Democratic presidential administrations found that law-abiding citizens used guns to defend themselves 1,138,534 times over 20 years.
But Congressional Democrats, and their supporters on the loony left, say the biggest danger facing students isn't school gunmen: It's Trump and racist Republicans.
"Let's spike this hare-brained idea before it gets off the ground," said Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer.
The idea that threatened students won't be hiding under their desks has Democrats shaking in their boots. Not only would this stop their party's insane gun control agenda, but MSNBC worries the guns will somehow be used to further "racism."
Radical left-wing activists are "very worried about the racial impacts this will have, if you start arming teachers," contributor Yamiche Alcindor told an MSNBC panel.
Read more at https://thehornnews.com/msnbc-republican-teachers-kill-children/.
I strongly support those who demand that gun control laws be enacted, look at the number of persons that have been killed by gunshot in recent times in America and even in some other countries in the world. Enough of all these killings.
I demand old-age control. Way more people die of old age than of guns.
When is gun control, fun control? When you are the controller. Just ask the governments of the countries that have complete gun control, as the government officials roll in wealth they can take from the people any time they want... because they have the guns.
Gun control is an absolute must. The more people who have it, the more it is dangerous. Although a gun is used for protection but only for that purpose. Extreme measures for securing a gun should be taken into action, plus certificates and IDs for verification. With gun control, violence is decreased since authorities will easily be able to narrow down the search for those who used their guns for these.Of course gun control is an absolute must. And it should be people controlling the guns, not gorillas, or chimps, or zebras. And it shouldn't be those gun crazy cops, or military people who go around and kill people in Afghanistan and Yemen. Rather, it should be all the average people controlling their own guns, and deciding locally how much gun control there should be.
When is gun control, fun control? When you are the controller. Just ask the governments of the countries that have complete gun control, as the government officials roll in wealth they can take from the people any time they want... because they have the guns.
Gun control is an absolute must. The more people who have it, the more it is dangerous. Although a gun is used for protection but only for that purpose. Extreme measures for securing a gun should be taken into action, plus certificates and IDs for verification. With gun control, violence is decreased since authorities will easily be able to narrow down the search for those who used their guns for these.
In our history always masters have guns slaves not.
Its funny to hear shooting in school we need abolish guns. But lets be honest shooting in school always happend because school is no gun zone xD
This cases are ammunition for anti gun propaganda always is easier to control the disarmerd society
Its funny to hear shooting in school we need abolish guns. But lets be honest shooting in school always happend because school is no gun zone xD
This cases are ammunition for anti gun propaganda always is easier to control the disarmerd society
When is gun control, fun control? When you are the controller. Just ask the governments of the countries that have complete gun control, as the government officials roll in wealth they can take from the people any time they want... because they have the guns.
Currently, we lived in a world where a war is seen as normal, where people lived beyond crucial, where we humans are capable of satisfying our own above what is essential.
See a child already holding a gun weapon, does he commanded the thought of killing?
Look at those young individuals, do they know having that gun isn't an expertise of them?
Head over the news of some police officers whom people thought of protection but instead is a big opposite, does it really an alarming sign?
Gun control should be an everyone's awareness of being one of those concerned in right and just actions towards peace.
See a child already holding a gun weapon, does he commanded the thought of killing?
Look at those young individuals, do they know having that gun isn't an expertise of them?
Head over the news of some police officers whom people thought of protection but instead is a big opposite, does it really an alarming sign?
Gun control should be an everyone's awareness of being one of those concerned in right and just actions towards peace.
I agree that life is risky, of course. I realize that we will never get to "zero", but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't aim for it. You think it's better to aim for 1 murder per year? Per day? Maybe 10 murders a month? Is that a good goal? Of course you want to stop all of them, even if you know you won't be able to.
It absolutely DOES mean that 'we' would NOT 'aim for it.' It will be hugely expensive in a number of ways to try to grab all guns and has zero chance of being effective anyway. The only thing which it will accomplish in the U.S. is that the ratio of armed responsible citizens to armed criminals will be vastly less, and there will be a blood bath. Most of the blood will be that of the responsible civilians since criminals will switch from non-confrontational crime to confrontational crime when they can do so safely.
Currently criminals cannot rely on confrontational crime in rural areas with very low police protection, and there is limited such protection because it is simply not economically feasible to employ a large police force in such areas. The guiding hands funding/motivating the 'gun grabbers' are fully aware of these dynamics, but they also tend to believe that citizens should be aggregated into dense population centers where they can be more easily monitored and the rural areas should be minimally inhabited (mostly by their own staff engaged in resource extraction.) Rampant crime will provide another justification for population movements.
It's a difficult topic. We can't completely ban weapons because those who manage to find it will be 10 times deadlier. However I think that we can find ways to protect ourselves from it, currently there are not enough "defense options".
You'll be offered a '100% reliable option', and it will work. Or at least has the theoretical potential to work from a technological perspective and thus will be believable to most people.
My opinion is that 'gun control' is not really a very important thing in today's world. It is, however, critical for what happens 'the day after tomorrow' so to speak. That would help explain why 'all the fuss' about it in the here-and-now is so confusing to people.
Personally, I do not believe that outlawing guns is the path to stopping these shootings. If anything, outlawing guns will just make the common people more defenseless. Although violence is not the answer, sometimes you have to defend yourself or defend the people you care about, and in some cases, the only answer is violence. it may not be the right answer, but it can be the answer that gives you the result to desire. if you believe in nonviolence, then fine, do not take the path of violence. Do not defend yourself when someone points a gun at you. but if you are selfish, as I am, if you have the will to live, and the conviction to defend yourself, then would you rather not have a gun in hand to protect yourself?
I agree that life is risky, of course. I realize that we will never get to "zero", but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't aim for it. You think it's better to aim for 1 murder per year? Per day? Maybe 10 murders a month? Is that a good goal? Of course you want to stop all of them, even if you know you won't be able to.
It absolutely DOES mean that 'we' would NOT 'aim for it.' It will be hugely expensive in a number of ways to try to grab all guns and has zero chance of being effective anyway. The only thing which it will accomplish in the U.S. is that the ratio of armed responsible citizens to armed criminals will be vastly less, and there will be a blood bath. Most of the blood will be that of the responsible civilians since criminals will switch from non-confrontational crime to confrontational crime when they can do so safely.
Currently criminals cannot rely on confrontational crime in rural areas with very low police protection, and there is limited such protection because it is simply not economically feasible to employ a large police force in such areas. The guiding hands funding/motivating the 'gun grabbers' are fully aware of these dynamics, but they also tend to believe that citizens should be aggregated into dense population centers where they can be more easily monitored and the rural areas should be minimally inhabited (mostly by their own staff engaged in resource extraction.) Rampant crime will provide another justification for population movements.
The U.S. has plenty of gun control and these problems are at a tolerable level and most of them dropping. Those which are not dropping will only get worse as citizens are dis-armed.
What is a tolerable level of gun crime, accidental gun deaths, gun suicides, and police shootings? That seems like a ridiculous statement. How much gun violence is okay in your mind? Is it tolerable until your kid accidentally shoots your wife? Is it tolerable until the cops start shooting at you? Where can you draw the line? I don't think any of those statistics should be tolerable. Everything should be done to get them as close to 0 as possible.All your questions are things that gun control by government promotes. The difference is that government controls it all rather than everyday people controlling.
If you want to live free, you have to stand up and take responsibility for how you live. You control your guns with your kids all the time. You train your kids how to be responsible for their actions. You don't leave your guns lying around so your kids can get them without proper overseeing.
Gun control by government is simply all the crimes being done by government because government has the strength if they have the gun control.
I personally know of no-one who has accidentally shot their wife or husband. I do know of situations where a person has accidentally hit their wife on the head with a sledge hammer driving fence posts. Fortunately it did not severely injure her. I know of a situation where a person ran over his wife while trying to jump-start an automobile. Unfortunately this did result in a fatality.
Being alive and actually doing things in the real world is a risky thing (but some weirdos actually enjoy it...go figure.) Sitting on the couch an watching TV all day helps...until you reach about age 50 then it still helps, but mostly it helps the medical/industrial complex.
A skilled engineer will almost never try to get to 'zero.' We know the trade-offs which occur most of the time, and we balance these in a coherent manner. A starry-eyed utopian dreamer will always shoot for zero. More commonly so will a brainwashed retard who listens to their bullshit. Or more often they are listen to a cold and calculating engineer who is spinning yards of utopian bullshit for the masses but who has an entirely different agenda in mind.
I guess to some extent your answer goes right along with what I'm saying. Do people accidentally shoot themselves or their loved ones? Absolutely, and this obviously happens more where there are more guns. You don't know anybody that this has happened to and, therefore, it's tolerable to you. I think it would be a different conversation if you were one of the "tolerable" statistics.Being alive and actually doing things in the real world is a risky thing (but some weirdos actually enjoy it...go figure.) Sitting on the couch an watching TV all day helps...until you reach about age 50 then it still helps, but mostly it helps the medical/industrial complex.
A skilled engineer will almost never try to get to 'zero.' We know the trade-offs which occur most of the time, and we balance these in a coherent manner. A starry-eyed utopian dreamer will always shoot for zero. More commonly so will a brainwashed retard who listens to their bullshit. Or more often they are listen to a cold and calculating engineer who is spinning yards of utopian bullshit for the masses but who has an entirely different agenda in mind.
I agree that life is risky, of course. I realize that we will never get to "zero", but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't aim for it. You think it's better to aim for 1 murder per year? Per day? Maybe 10 murders a month? Is that a good goal? Of course you want to stop all of them, even if you know you won't be able to.
IMO, people should be given the choice whether whey want to own a fire-arm or not. In places like Texas, where home invasions are very common, the possession of a fire-arm can save many lives. However, the government should make it impossible for people with a criminal record, and those with mental issues from obtaining fire-arms.
people must know the laws and policies regarding gun control. If ever they want to own a fire arm or not the must the regulations and responsibility,Most countries have a restrictive firearm guiding policy, with only a few legislation being categorized as permissive.
Why do ordinary people need weapons? I believe that weapons can only be worn by a policeman or a military. If you want to shoot, you can go to the shooting gallery. Less weapons, fewer problems
The problem is not the guns, but those who hold them in their hands: with cars you can create dead and wounded, but this is not a good reason to prohibit cars.
With the guns, it's the same: if you give the right people, they do not create any problems.
With the guns, it's the same: if you give the right people, they do not create any problems.
The U.S. has plenty of gun control and these problems are at a tolerable level and most of them dropping. Those which are not dropping will only get worse as citizens are dis-armed.
What is a tolerable level of gun crime, accidental gun deaths, gun suicides, and police shootings? That seems like a ridiculous statement. How much gun violence is okay in your mind? Is it tolerable until your kid accidentally shoots your wife? Is it tolerable until the cops start shooting at you? Where can you draw the line? I don't think any of those statistics should be tolerable. Everything should be done to get them as close to 0 as possible.I personally know of no-one who has accidentally shot their wife or husband. I do know of situations where a person has accidentally hit their wife on the head with a sledge hammer driving fence posts. Fortunately it did not severely injure her. I know of a situation where a person ran over his wife while trying to jump-start an automobile. Unfortunately this did result in a fatality.
Being alive and actually doing things in the real world is a risky thing (but some weirdos actually enjoy it...go figure.) Sitting on the couch an watching TV all day helps...until you reach about age 50 then it still helps, but mostly it helps the medical/industrial complex.
A skilled engineer will almost never try to get to 'zero.' We know the trade-offs which occur most of the time, and we balance these in a coherent manner. A starry-eyed utopian dreamer will always shoot for zero. More commonly so will a brainwashed retard who listens to their bullshit. Or more often they are listen to a cold and calculating engineer who is spinning yards of utopian bullshit for the masses but who has an entirely different agenda in mind.
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