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Quote from: Fredomago on January 22, 2024, 08:33:14 AM

Quote from: maydna on January 22, 2024, 07:28:13 AM

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The apetite to play is more their concern and nothing else inside their minds, gambling addicted person just wanted to play without any target, their desire to see them having a winning streaks or trying to recover whatever they already lose is no longer a factor, addicted gambler will play and play till they already emptied their bankroll.

And they will just keep repeating things over and over till they lose all their resources and still will try to keep on playing, they will do unexpected things to get the money to please their gambling participation.

People who are addicted to gambling want to continue gambling without thinking about the results because they would be very happy if they could gamble all day long. But the risk is that they must have a lot of money to gamble for a long time. But it will never be recommended because it will only make them deeper into gambling without being able to stop their gambling activities easily. They probably won't listen to advice from other people who tell them to rest first before continuing to gamble.

Yes, they won't stop until they lose all their money, and it seems like they have no regrets about losing all their money. Maybe they still have money to use for gambling, so they will deposit a larger amount to fill their appetite for gambling. I don't know what will happen to those who cannot control themselves when gambling, but they will become addicted to gambling.

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Generational wealth from gambling is like walking on air, we all know how impossible this is unless one is a great magician, still possible but only few magicians can pull this trick, how many gamblers have turned wealthy in gambling? Maybe 10 out of millions.

Are you going to bet all your life and precious time on something that brings this thinly chances of luck to human? You may not the next number eleven because the chances are too slim, this is the true meaning of gambling.

What OP shared is a very bad advice and I hope it doesn't get into the mind of any newbie on here, telling people to take a loan is even the worst, you literally can not lose it says, LMAO, that's crazy.

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Quote from: Hewlet on December 20, 2023, 06:26:20 AM

So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams, they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

I think it's pretty much BS. Gambling is nowhere near to give you generational wealth, unless you are a casino owner. It sure is not impossible, but it will take a really long while before you can be successful as a gambler. Mostly, it will not really come from being a full time gambler yourself, but having other means to have income such as being a live streamer or content creator about gambling, being an affiliate or ambassador, and having referral links and codes to generate more profit. But if you will just solely rely on gambling, you need to have strong mental health for it and lots of funds. Additionally, you must have a strong sense of discipline and responsibility so that you won't get lost in the process of achieving your goal to have more money.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on January 22, 2024, 02:50:31 PM

Quote from: the rise on January 22, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

Not only an addiction but also a bit of coercion. They have a group where friends encourage each other to keep gambling and take loans if they need that to continue? That's just toxic!
These guys are nuts. It's like addicts convincing other addicts that what they're doing is fine, just like when criminals go for a beer after a "job" well done and say "did you see how this guy was begging me not to beat him up? That was funny!
So, my advice to you OP, stop being friends with these guys. They're beyond help, but maybe it's not too late for you, since you came here to ask about it, so it seems like you see there's something wrong with the way they act.

That is my take on this situation as well, gambling with our friends is a very common thing to do, and whether this is done by playing poker or making a few sport bets among the group of friends, no one would say there is something wrong with this, but encouraging your friends to keep betting, taking loans and even assure them they cannot lose, when we can prove this is mathematically false, is a huge problem, and if I knew those people I would stay away from them.

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Quote from: Hewlet on December 20, 2023, 06:26:20 AM

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Whoever created and promoted this encouraged irresponsible gambling It is fun if those involved are friends and the atmosphere is fun and enjoying the conversation, but it's different when there's seriousness in the chat group, fun or not this is not to be taken seriously, we all have to stop gambling at some point and it should be based on your decision alone.
Stopping gambling or continuing should be based on one's decision and not because of the urge of your group or someone who has the authority to tell you to do so, we should decide for ourselves because it's our money and our enjoyment that matters.

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Quote from: the rise on January 22, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

Not only an addiction but also a bit of coercion. They have a group where friends encourage each other to keep gambling and take loans if they need that to continue? That's just toxic!
These guys are nuts. It's like addicts convincing other addicts that what they're doing is fine, just like when criminals go for a beer after a "job" well done and say "did you see how this guy was begging me not to beat him up? That was funny!
So, my advice to you OP, stop being friends with these guys. They're beyond help, but maybe it's not too late for you, since you came here to ask about it, so it seems like you see there's something wrong with the way they act.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on January 22, 2024, 09:58:26 AM

I think so too, someone who is addicted to gambling will certainly not admit that he is addicted to gambling, but by looking at his behavior towards excessive gambling it indicates that he is addicted to gambling. it's true that you say that maybe many gamblers are gambling because of such goals, but in my own opinion it will not happen, maybe it can happen but it is almost impossible, with them chasing victory or wanting to get money back in gambling it will only drain their own money.

You are right, they must be prepared with the money they bet, they must be able to accept the fact that the money they bet can be lost in a moment of time, and with them already addicted to gambling in my opinion it is not a good thing, because with them addicted to gambling of course it will make them continue to gamble, and if they take actions like borrowing I think they have gone too far, because in my opinion it is the same path to destruction of life. so I conclude that if they have done excessive gambling, it means that they are addicted to gambling in other words gambling addiction.

The gambler who win the money repeatedly is not the gambling addicted person.If the gambler use to play the game again and again after the loss of funds in the continuous way because of the gambling addiction.The gambler who try to target the loss in the gambling site to the future games will loss their funds all the time.Because he will make their emotions to play their betting in the gambling site.The gamblers who use their money in the gambling site was mostly like the risking of their money,but the loss alone help you to understand.You had won the money by using the same gambling game.But the gamblers who develop their skill to win also able to make huge money.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 22, 2024, 11:55:47 AM

Quote from: the rise on January 22, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

I am afraid you are right.I also feel a bit addicted myself as I have been playing from not just 2 years but many years and I don't think I would feel the same if I spend days without gambling I will not feel the same,I start my sessions with the intention of having fun but I believe is more a form of addiction rather than desire of having fun.

Well, don't stop you're just one game away from generational wealth. Grin

It feels like that line comes from someone who owns a casino itself.

Over time it has become a habit already to bet whenever there is something to bet, it could be an addiction but yup I know what I'm doing I still feel like I can stop it anytime as I did when recently I got a new Netflix account. A new distraction from gambling seems like a good start if an addict wants to quit.

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Quote from: the rise on January 22, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

I am afraid you are right.I also feel a bit addicted myself as I have been playing from not just 2 years but many years and I don't think I would feel the same if I spend days without gambling I will not feel the same,I start my sessions with the intention of having fun but I believe is more a form of addiction rather than desire of having fun.

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in my opinion it is a gambling addiction, why do I say that, because you said it has been going on for 2 years, that is not a short time, but imagine if you stop that activity, you will feel that there is something you are not doing enough, it cannot be denied or It is denied that he has accidentally become a gambling addict

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Quote from: Westinhome on January 21, 2024, 07:20:40 PM

Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will never come to know about their own addiction,because their ultimate aim of the gambling site will be start to recover the money from the gambling site.But the gamblers can’t recover the funds,if they doesn’t create the good strategy for the game.Most of the gamblers will play the few games,because they try to master of that game or they have wish in few games alone.Learning the game basics was the important one to the gambler who wanted to make money using the gambling site.The gambler who wants to make money by playing the gambling game should ready to risk the money and also to build their game for the future gain in the game.

Thinking you can recover all you have lost to the gambling site just like that is another way of tricking yourself into incurring some more loss because you may end up not winning back that which you have lost rather you will loose that which you are staking to recover that which you lost which will na become even more losses for you.

Sometimes you may be lucky to win back your lost funds but then discipline to leave after recovery may be lacking and that's the point where you may now end up with more losses than you would have had if you had stoped and moved on with that which you have won. Building games to be able to have a winning advantage is a very good strategy to winning but the problem lays within staying disciplined to keeping to such rule because some may really find it difficult to stick to such rules especially when they eventually grow the money to a certain amount, they will no longer have the patience and discipline they may now start gambling recklessly.

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Quote from: Westinhome on January 21, 2024, 07:20:40 PM

Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will never come to know about their own addiction,because their ultimate aim of the gambling site will be start to recover the money from the gambling site.But the gamblers can’t recover the funds,if they doesn’t create the good strategy for the game.Most of the gamblers will play the few games,because they try to master of that game or they have wish in few games alone.Learning the game basics was the important one to the gambler who wanted to make money using the gambling site.The gambler who wants to make money by playing the gambling game should ready to risk the money and also to build their game for the future gain in the game.

I think so too, someone who is addicted to gambling will certainly not admit that he is addicted to gambling, but by looking at his behavior towards excessive gambling it indicates that he is addicted to gambling. it's true that you say that maybe many gamblers are gambling because of such goals, but in my own opinion it will not happen, maybe it can happen but it is almost impossible, with them chasing victory or wanting to get money back in gambling it will only drain their own money.

You are right, they must be prepared with the money they bet, they must be able to accept the fact that the money they bet can be lost in a moment of time, and with them already addicted to gambling in my opinion it is not a good thing, because with them addicted to gambling of course it will make them continue to gamble, and if they take actions like borrowing I think they have gone too far, because in my opinion it is the same path to destruction of life. so I conclude that if they have done excessive gambling, it means that they are addicted to gambling in other words gambling addiction.

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Quote from: maydna on January 22, 2024, 07:28:13 AM

Quote from: Quidat on January 21, 2024, 07:13:59 PM

Quote from: maydna on January 21, 2024, 07:09:26 PM

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Each person is different but when it comes to perception about gambling then it would be mostly be pertaining about doing or making money and this what thrives them to play and continue despite
of the losses they made but we do now that there are indeed people who do play just for the sake of fun and entertainment. It would really be just that depending into a certain person
on how they would really be making out those reactions basing up on the condition that they are really that experiencing. Some couldnt really just that able to bare up with the risks
and there are some who could really be able to handle it out and really that get contented on what they are really that dealing with.

When it comes to addiction and fun then it would vary or would really be reflecting out into someones personal situation on which there are ones
who are really that just fine and there are ones who wreck up themselves.

When gamblers want to make money from gambling, they will still return to gambling even though they have lost a lot because they think there is still a chance to win the game. They will not see that gambling is just entertainment but a way to make money, so they will continue to return to gambling even though they will experience losses again. If people think that they have made a mistake by continuing to gamble, they should start changing the way they view gambling and not use gambling as a way to make money. They also don't need to gamble too often because that could pose a greater risk where they will use the money to gamble even though there is no guarantee that they will win.

But if they have reached the stage of addiction, they will not be able to see any changes happening to them. They want to gamble and no longer chase wins or recover their losses but have changed to just wanting to gamble. Winning or losing will not stop them from continuing to gamble because they like it and prioritize it.

The apetite to play is more their concern and nothing else inside their minds, gambling addicted person just wanted to play without any target, their desire to see them having a winning streaks or trying to recover whatever they already lose is no longer a factor, addicted gambler will play and play till they already emptied their bankroll.

And they will just keep repeating things over and over till they lose all their resources and still will try to keep on playing, they will do unexpected things to get the money to please their gambling participation.

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Quote from: Quidat on January 21, 2024, 07:13:59 PM

Quote from: maydna on January 21, 2024, 07:09:26 PM

~snip~

Each person is different but when it comes to perception about gambling then it would be mostly be pertaining about doing or making money and this what thrives them to play and continue despite
of the losses they made but we do now that there are indeed people who do play just for the sake of fun and entertainment. It would really be just that depending into a certain person
on how they would really be making out those reactions basing up on the condition that they are really that experiencing. Some couldnt really just that able to bare up with the risks
and there are some who could really be able to handle it out and really that get contented on what they are really that dealing with.

When it comes to addiction and fun then it would vary or would really be reflecting out into someones personal situation on which there are ones
who are really that just fine and there are ones who wreck up themselves.

When gamblers want to make money from gambling, they will still return to gambling even though they have lost a lot because they think there is still a chance to win the game. They will not see that gambling is just entertainment but a way to make money, so they will continue to return to gambling even though they will experience losses again. If people think that they have made a mistake by continuing to gamble, they should start changing the way they view gambling and not use gambling as a way to make money. They also don't need to gamble too often because that could pose a greater risk where they will use the money to gamble even though there is no guarantee that they will win.

But if they have reached the stage of addiction, they will not be able to see any changes happening to them. They want to gamble and no longer chase wins or recover their losses but have changed to just wanting to gamble. Winning or losing will not stop them from continuing to gamble because they like it and prioritize it.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

The gambler who get addicted to the gambling will never come to know about their own addiction,because their ultimate aim of the gambling site will be start to recover the money from the gambling site.But the gamblers can’t recover the funds,if they doesn’t create the good strategy for the game.Most of the gamblers will play the few games,because they try to master of that game or they have wish in few games alone.Learning the game basics was the important one to the gambler who wanted to make money using the gambling site.The gambler who wants to make money by playing the gambling game should ready to risk the money and also to build their game for the future gain in the game.

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Quote from: maydna on January 21, 2024, 07:09:26 PM

Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

It's because they see that someone can make money from gambling, so they still want to try it. They think they can get it someday, and it's only a matter of time that will tell. Meanwhile, they just need to keep gambling while waiting for luck to come and give them a win. Besides that, they also think that by gambling more often, they can get closer to winning, even though that is not true because they can experience more losses than they can imagine. Yes, we can only gamble as much as we can and not excessively, and there is no need to invite other people to gamble because we don't know how good their self-control is.

Each person is different but when it comes to perception about gambling then it would be mostly be pertaining about doing or making money and this what thrives them to play and continue despite
of the losses they made but we do now that there are indeed people who do play just for the sake of fun and entertainment. It would really be just that depending into a certain person
on how they would really be making out those reactions basing up on the condition that they are really that experiencing. Some couldnt really just that able to bare up with the risks
and there are some who could really be able to handle it out and really that get contented on what they are really that dealing with.

When it comes to addiction and fun then it would vary or would really be reflecting out into someones personal situation on which there are ones
who are really that just fine and there are ones who wreck up themselves.

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Quote from: Justbillywitt on January 21, 2024, 07:54:09 AM

This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

It's because they see that someone can make money from gambling, so they still want to try it. They think they can get it someday, and it's only a matter of time that will tell. Meanwhile, they just need to keep gambling while waiting for luck to come and give them a win. Besides that, they also think that by gambling more often, they can get closer to winning, even though that is not true because they can experience more losses than they can imagine. Yes, we can only gamble as much as we can and not excessively, and there is no need to invite other people to gamble because we don't know how good their self-control is.

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This one is already addicted to gambling and it shows that he will do whatever it takes just for him to gamble. I don't know why some people still think that they are supposed to make the money that will take care of them for life through gambling. Gamble when you can but taking a lone to gamble is not advisable.

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I wanted to say that it doesn’t look that deep to be called addiction but the message you share is really not advisable. I don’t understand why someone would say that if they really care for their friends. Why would you tell someone to not stop gambling instead of advising them to look for an actual job. And he went on to say that you can take loan to continue gambling. OP, being in multiple debts is how this ends. That’s the storyline.

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OP its not gambling or addiction its foolishness. Especially the part where he said that they should take loans to continue betting irrespective of the disadvantages. Sounding as if it is so easy to take loans and repay when i know that some persons find it difficult to pay back loan. Now for instance if they lose the loaned money in gambling how will they repay it?

People should be thinking of the consequences that will arise after taking some kind of decisions. Instead of just focusing on what they will gain from it. In this life there are short term benefits with high consequences in the long run. In my opinion the idea of gambling till oke become successful should not be an advised to gamblers. The mindset should be that gamblers should hamble having the mindset that one day they may quit gambling.

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