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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.

Two different things in my opinion. Addiction and Fun. And gambling can fall in between the two of the divide. As some may take it as a career path to gamble and make a living with it. A lot more out there will see gambling as a fun game. As a way of unwinding their stressful life and spending it on gambling. For instance, a man out there have lived his life on a salary-earning job under a private firm and he suddenly just lost the job, a gambler can decide to take out of his sorrowful moment to gamble and make a fun out of it whereas another person out there with his job and take a time out of his business schedules to gamble. I think that's some addiction there.

And O yes, just to respond to the question of whether one can become addicted to any fun game. In fact, almost a 100 percent of gambling is in the games people play for fun everyday and that's why numerous people are addicted to gambling.

Continue to gamble and take a loan? For gamblers that are not new to gambling, it would be seen as a joke. But it should also not to be taken for a joke. Why would someone gamble to the extent it will get to taking a loan? That is an addiction already and nothing else.

Gambling should be without loan. Also gambling should be without 95% of the money you are earning. Even only 1% of the money that you are earning should be used to gamble is the recommendation.

If you use 1% to gamble and continue to lose, you have no loan to take and you have no difficulty to face.

If I try to understand your point, the advice you are giving to gamblers is for those gambling not to firstly involve in taking loans to gamble and secondly, not to take loans using a majority or all of their incomes but just to take a few of their income, like 1% to gamble.

Well, for the first advice, I will completely agree with you over it and will not encourage anyone out there to go into loans to gamble. If gambling is seen as a fun thing and one is not already addicted to the fun, then there should be no reason to why you should go into taking loans to purposely engage into gambling and I will always discourage such decisions even when you claim to be an expert in gambling like some will do.

Secondly, the issue of using a little percentage out of your earnings to gamble, I think it's absolutely a thing of choice and the decision is to be taken by the gambler. However, just like in investment, where you are not encouraged to invest your money and profits to one investment, I won't also encourage you to use all your earnings to play gambling games.
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and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

No gambler is perfect, we just couldn't control ourselves and strict rules whenever we're in the system. We gamble for the wrong reason, there are numerous reasons why we gamble, mostly it should be for fun and not some ultimate prices of paying bills. We ought to become serious whenever we're in the system, we deal with what we think is important and served good priorities. Gamblers doesn't chase losses deliberately, they do it out of the present condition the faces from the system. No gambler plans for failure but due to circumstances they found themselves, they have no options than embraced losses.

In my opinion, many people have the wrong opinion about gambling, where many of them think that gambling will provide profits so that gambling becomes a source of income in life, and of course this is not true,  because what is clear is that people gamble with the aim of having fun. Even though they still experience losses that cannot be avoided,  especially if they use gambling as their main source of income, it will only cause them financial difficulties.

and many of them gamble but are not prepared for the losses that will occur, so many of them cannot accept the losses and make them addicted to gambling which is clearly detrimental to them financially, if they gamble they should be prepared for losses that result in losses their money. because gambling involves winning and losing but what you need to remember is the large chance of losing in gambling many of them are addicted to gambling,  so they dare to take action to borrow money to gamble again. which will only make them more difficult in life
It's true that most people think that gambling can provide benefits if you can use your skills correctly because most people think that gambling using skill can provide profit. Thats why people choose to gamble rather than work because their goal is to be able to double their money quickly without any effort even though in gambling with skill there is no guarantee of a definite win. Gambler are still faced with many losses and in fact any type of bet only has a small chances of winning.

Gamblers who have the goal of making a profit will not accept it if they experience defeat because their goal is to get what they expected from the start, if gambling does not give them what they expect then they will do thing that are detrimental to themselves such as borrowing money to get the money they need and try to return their initial capital, hopefully they can make a profit even though I think they will only be disappointed because in fact they will experience even bigger losses.
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No amount of hype a motivational speaker can make me go that extent. It is stated in different places that always play with your spear money, and not to take that risk even when it's affecting you. I guest this is not from gambling site because they alway say that people should gamble responsibly. And saying this now seems its a kind of setup. Gambling is a trial attempt to make money but not an investment that will make you spend a huge amount of money without considering the risk.
This is the right answer, however peer pressure is real and when people have been gambling for so long on the same group, the pressure for this to continue can be high enough to the point some people may decide to keep gambling by asking for loans to pay for their wagers, and this is quite dangerous, since a person could easily ask for more money than what they can reasonably pay and affect their future over something that was not really important.

What peer pressure are you talking about? Each of us makes our own decision. In my school days, many of my peers played card games, and I played with them because we didn't have internet and needed something to occupy my free time. Among my friends there were guys who did not gamble, instead they played chess. They didn't have any problems. Even if there was some pressure on them, they easily fought it off. Peer pressure can only be directed at weak people who don't have an opinion.
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That is some kind of unethical way of encouraging people to get involve with gambling and I can see negative effects in this to those who really is following the same strategy specially to newbies. That may lead someone to being broke if it happens that they really get a loan and gamble. 😅
That's what makes people feel that they are getting closer to winning when in fact they will lose more and more. Only beginner gamblers who can control themselves will not be influenced by advertisements like that and will only gamble in moderation. They don't want to lose a lot of money so they will always avoid advertisements that tell them to continue gambling. Those who have played gambling should be able to see the fact that it is still difficult for them to win, especially if they borrow money from other people. It will only increase problems for them if they are able to solve the problem. And a person can become bankrupt in a short time if he sticks to what he sees in the advertisements.
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


That is some kind of unethical way of encouraging people to get involve with gambling and I can see negative effects in this to those who really is following the same strategy specially to newbies. That may lead someone to being broke if it happens that they really get a loan and gamble. 😅
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In my opinion, winning or losing is the same and in two conditions like this, everything can have an impact on addiction depending on how the gambler himself responds to each outcome of gambling.
Winning will provide additional capital and provide effect in wanting to win bigger, obviously this will keep gamblers on gambling sites or physical casinos longer until over time they become addicted.
Defeat also creates endless curiosity, even defeat can cause someone to be unable to accept the defeat and spend more money on betting.
This happens not only online but also offline, all forms of gambling activity have the same impact regarding addiction or addiction.

I actually don't agree with the notion that gambling can be used as place to invest just because when you win you can double your money, investing must be in the right place so that profits can be guaranteed and losses can be minimized.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen, so can this be considered an investment?
Those people who think that gambling is place to invest must change their mindset so that in the future they can become gamblers who do not experience mental and financial problems.

I know they have jobs, they have businesses that can make money, but when they get to know gambling, they have to manage their finances well even though there is always clear, guaranteed source of income.
No matter how much money you make when you are careless in gambling, the end result is that it runs out with nothing left.
That's interesting; winning makes you want more, but losing makes you want to recover. I've found that this loop blinds people to their predicament. The excitement of possible riches overshadows the perils on this risky path. Too many times, gambling starts as a hobby but becomes a problem. The idea that one more wager could fix things is a powerful yet false incentive

I share your suspicion about gambling investments. I believe true investment requires research, strategy, and predictability. Gambling lacks these basics. Gambling is random and usually against the gambler. Many people are misled by the impression that gambling may provide a steady income. Calculated investment risk-taking must be distinguished from gambling's unpredictability. This divide is often obscured, causing bad decisions and financial and emotional pain
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So in weekends in my departmental WhatsApp group, we just randomly talk about soccer bets and sometimes drop a particular game and keep it open for correct score prediction to be made on it, and the first person with the correct score goes home with a data subscription, this has been going on for almost two years now and people have gotten used to it without knowing it.

This is one of the chat I just bumped into by one of us in the group chat and at this point I feel most of my friend have made it compulsory to always gamble every weekend.



Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.




This is a total addiction entirely.
You can't tell me they do it for fun or any of that,the moments one go an extra mile in taking a loan,boom that person is totally addicted to that thing.

I think its high time we let gamblers know the risk and level of what they are doing,before they inculcate that habit in the lives of the young ones
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No amount of hype a motivational speaker can make me go that extent. It is stated in different places that always play with your spear money, and not to take that risk even when it's affecting you. I guest this is not from gambling site because they alway say that people should gamble responsibly. And saying this now seems its a kind of setup. Gambling is a trial attempt to make money but not an investment that will make you spend a huge amount of money without considering the risk.
This is the right answer, however peer pressure is real and when people have been gambling for so long on the same group, the pressure for this to continue can be high enough to the point some people may decide to keep gambling by asking for loans to pay for their wagers, and this is quite dangerous, since a person could easily ask for more money than what they can reasonably pay and affect their future over something that was not really important.
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Yes, they are continuing to gambling online because they are "winning" which can be consider as a bad thing since it can lead to gambling addiction. Gambling could be considered as investment for some people as their spare money could be doubled or tripled by winning, and of course they are aware of the risk of losing as well. These young people have tasted the sweet victory of gambling and would want more, the greed will follows as they keep gambling, they would suffer a big loss and they would never stop as they would try to recover their losses. I mean they can stop themselves into gambling as they are limited with funds since they don't have money sources like income or salary, but eventually they would try to comeback hoping to win or recover.
In my opinion, winning or losing is the same and in two conditions like this, everything can have an impact on addiction depending on how the gambler himself responds to each outcome of gambling.
Winning will provide additional capital and provide effect in wanting to win bigger, obviously this will keep gamblers on gambling sites or physical casinos longer until over time they become addicted.
Defeat also creates endless curiosity, even defeat can cause someone to be unable to accept the defeat and spend more money on betting.
This happens not only online but also offline, all forms of gambling activity have the same impact regarding addiction or addiction.

I actually don't agree with the notion that gambling can be used as place to invest just because when you win you can double your money, investing must be in the right place so that profits can be guaranteed and losses can be minimized.
In gambling, losing is something that is bound to happen, so can this be considered an investment?
Those people who think that gambling is place to invest must change their mindset so that in the future they can become gamblers who do not experience mental and financial problems.

I know they have jobs, they have businesses that can make money, but when they get to know gambling, they have to manage their finances well even though there is always clear, guaranteed source of income.
No matter how much money you make when you are careless in gambling, the end result is that it runs out with nothing left.
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and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

No gambler is perfect, we just couldn't control ourselves and strict rules whenever we're in the system. We gamble for the wrong reason, there are numerous reasons why we gamble, mostly it should be for fun and not some ultimate prices of paying bills. We ought to become serious whenever we're in the system, we deal with what we think is important and served good priorities. Gamblers doesn't chase losses deliberately, they do it out of the present condition the faces from the system. No gambler plans for failure but due to circumstances they found themselves, they have no options than embraced losses.

I agree, when you are in that moment, controlling it will not be your first choice. It's always revenge, and it will be done by chasing losses. It's wrong like @len01 said but how are we going to get our money back if we don't play more? I think the bigger mistake is by increasing the bet when we are chasing the losses. I've done it sometimes but its all a failure. Increasing the bets means more incoming losses and this will cloud our minds so we are going to think straight anymore.
After that, I just blamed myself for how stupid my decisions are because in that process I also shortened my chance to get a multi or the time where the RTP will come. We have to be patient about waiting for the system to give back because it will always do although most of the time it's not the same amount as we gambled. But cutting all those losses should be a good start and maybe patiently waiting again for the next multi will make us win. Rushing the wins never ended well for many gamblers, that's what I am trying to avoid now.
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and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

No gambler is perfect, we just couldn't control ourselves and strict rules whenever we're in the system. We gamble for the wrong reason, there are numerous reasons why we gamble, mostly it should be for fun and not some ultimate prices of paying bills. We ought to become serious whenever we're in the system, we deal with what we think is important and served good priorities. Gamblers doesn't chase losses deliberately, they do it out of the present condition the faces from the system. No gambler plans for failure but due to circumstances they found themselves, they have no options than embraced losses.

In my opinion, many people have the wrong opinion about gambling, where many of them think that gambling will provide profits so that gambling becomes a source of income in life, and of course this is not true,  because what is clear is that people gamble with the aim of having fun. Even though they still experience losses that cannot be avoided,  especially if they use gambling as their main source of income, it will only cause them financial difficulties.

and many of them gamble but are not prepared for the losses that will occur, so many of them cannot accept the losses and make them addicted to gambling which is clearly detrimental to them financially, if they gamble they should be prepared for losses that result in losses their money. because gambling involves winning and losing but what you need to remember is the large chance of losing in gambling many of them are addicted to gambling,  so they dare to take action to borrow money to gamble again. which will only make them more difficult in life
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No amount of hype a motivational speaker can make me go that extent. It is stated in different places that always play with your spear money, and not to take that risk even when it's affecting you. I guest this is not from gambling site because they alway say that people should gamble responsibly. And saying this now seems its a kind of setup. Gambling is a trial attempt to make money but not an investment that will make you spend a huge amount of money without considering the risk.
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and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

No gambler is perfect, we just couldn't control ourselves and strict rules whenever we're in the system. We gamble for the wrong reason, there are numerous reasons why we gamble, mostly it should be for fun and not some ultimate prices of paying bills. We ought to become serious whenever we're in the system, we deal with what we think is important and served good priorities. Gamblers doesn't chase losses deliberately, they do it out of the present condition the faces from the system. No gambler plans for failure but due to circumstances they found themselves, they have no options than embraced losses.
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and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.

Yes that's right, actually this is a misunderstanding in addressing what gambling actually is, not understanding what they are doing makes them end up with an inability to accept the reality when they lose which ultimately makes them gamble based on the emotions of losing and instead chasing wins in order to break even or as an action to restore all that has been lost, whereas in gambling defeat is a very natural result because gambling always involves luck which means that if you are unlucky then obviously you will lose and lose some money.

Of course as you said that chasing losses will only make them experience a much larger number of losses, I would support their actions if they could control their luck, but isn't that impossible? obviously because after all luck is something that always cannot be predicted when it comes and when it goes. So the point is the understanding of gambling, especially opportunities and risks must be really emphasized, not only that, you also have to understand how luck really works, with that then I think you will not be rash to act carelessly and excessively.
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Yes, they are continuing to gambling online because they are "winning" which can be consider as a bad thing since it can lead to gambling addiction. Gambling could be considered as investment for some people as their spare money could be doubled or tripled by winning, and of course they are aware of the risk of losing as well. These young people have tasted the sweet victory of gambling and would want more, the greed will follows as they keep gambling, they would suffer a big loss and they would never stop as they would try to recover their losses. I mean they can stop themselves into gambling as they are limited with funds since they don't have money sources like income or salary, but eventually they would try to comeback hoping to win or recover.
winning is always the main factor for an addicted gambler because feeling an excessive sensation of pleasure will increase the dopamine hormone in our brain and everything turns very bad when the gambler cannot control himself or control his emotions of pleasure which will always provide a high risk if it can be done in the long term.

honestly, I don't really like someone who considers gambling part of an investment because this is something that carries the risk of losing money, and someone can even lose large amounts of money in just a few minutes. maybe rich people can consider this as an investment, but if you really want to invest, it's better to use your money in other investments that have a lower risk because gambling is not for profit and is just for fun without expecting a big win and if you win big, we can get it is just part of the bonuses given to us.

and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.
Its is really just that normal that people would really be always having that kind of impression when it comes to gambling and the people who had been doing and dealing with it on which they would really be having that kind of impressions on which someone who do gamble would be automatically considered to be a gambling addict. If we do talk about on that OP been said about his colleagues or
co-workers do make out such bet then i dont see about the addiction on this. It did really just turn out that those kind of betting is really that a way on having those past times and having some
adding some ways to bet to add up some spice into their betting on which i dont see bad things to it. As long bet sizes in moderation then it would really be just that fine.
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Yes, they are continuing to gambling online because they are "winning" which can be consider as a bad thing since it can lead to gambling addiction. Gambling could be considered as investment for some people as their spare money could be doubled or tripled by winning, and of course they are aware of the risk of losing as well. These young people have tasted the sweet victory of gambling and would want more, the greed will follows as they keep gambling, they would suffer a big loss and they would never stop as they would try to recover their losses. I mean they can stop themselves into gambling as they are limited with funds since they don't have money sources like income or salary, but eventually they would try to comeback hoping to win or recover.
winning is always the main factor for an addicted gambler because feeling an excessive sensation of pleasure will increase the dopamine hormone in our brain and everything turns very bad when the gambler cannot control himself or control his emotions of pleasure which will always provide a high risk if it can be done in the long term.

honestly, I don't really like someone who considers gambling part of an investment because this is something that carries the risk of losing money, and someone can even lose large amounts of money in just a few minutes. maybe rich people can consider this as an investment, but if you really want to invest, it's better to use your money in other investments that have a lower risk because gambling is not for profit and is just for fun without expecting a big win and if you win big, we can get it is just part of the bonuses given to us.

and regarding gamblers who chase losses, this is just a wrong mindset because they dont understand that chasing losses is the same as losing large amounts of money because as I said before, gambling is just a slightly luxurious entertainment and we won't win as long as we're not lucky.
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There is no business where you can get guaranteed success so luck will let you down for everything gambling is no exception. Because gambling requires you to take risks and put your mind to the fact that you will win. In my area very young children are also busy with online gambling but why is that? Because they are winning, the attraction to gambling increases. It is not unusual to gamble every week but you have to be quiet that the pocket cannot be emptied. If your income is high then you can easily control and play. But i have seen it is more harmful for the student body because they have no source of income so they indulge in other vices to earn gambling money.

Yes, they are continuing to gambling online because they are "winning" which can be consider as a bad thing since it can lead to gambling addiction. Gambling could be considered as investment for some people as their spare money could be doubled or tripled by winning, and of course they are aware of the risk of losing as well. These young people have tasted the sweet victory of gambling and would want more, the greed will follows as they keep gambling, they would suffer a big loss and they would never stop as they would try to recover their losses. I mean they can stop themselves into gambling as they are limited with funds since they don't have money sources like income or salary, but eventually they would try to comeback hoping to win or recover.
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There is no business where you can get guaranteed success so luck will let you down for everything gambling is no exception. Because gambling requires you to take risks and put your mind to the fact that you will win. In my area very young children are also busy with online gambling but why is that? Because they are winning, the attraction to gambling increases. It is not unusual to gamble every week but you have to be quiet that the pocket cannot be emptied. If your income is high then you can easily control and play. But i have seen it is more harmful for the student body because they have no source of income so they indulge in other vices to earn gambling money.
Everything is because gambling offers the opportunity for everyone to be able to win many gambling games. But the problem is that they don't realize that to win from gambling, they have to use their money and will probably lose more than the amount they can. And when they win, they will forget to stop gambling because they want to win even more so they will just continue gambling. And gambling can attract young people to try it, especially now that there are lots of gambling advertisements that can appear anywhere so that more people will see it. Even though their income is high, if they gamble with big money, it will only waste all their money. Moreover, when playing gambling, there is a possibility that someone will try to increase the amount of their bet to be bigger than before just because they want to get a bigger win. But they don't realize that they can suffer a big loss too.
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Op I think that's not fun, the fact that you are being motivated to keep playing while experiencing losses it show the person behind that motivation doesn't like you or want the best for you,. And you can imagine the advise to take a loan for gambling, that alone should be a prove that you are not safe anymore with such person, except it's sarcasm the writer is just expressing. Because these days we see lots of people saying what they don't mean as per fun. Aside that, it's never a good advice to keep on gambling and then consider taking loan to continue.

Gamble responsibliy and avoid loans for gambling.

Therefore, if you want to gamble, do it yourself. Don't invite people or even your friends to watch and give you advice in making bets.
we play, we use our own money, and there is no need for other people's interference. if a problem occurs then they will leave without providing a solution. If they give you a loan, I think it's just a trick to trap you in interest-bearing debt. it's the beginning of a gambler's financial ruin.

I agree on this. If you're into gambling, it's smart to keep things personal. Avoid getting others involved or taking their advice because it might not match your game plan. I personally dont like people who blame others when they end up in bad things because they followed my suggestion. So of course i dont do it myself. In terms of borrowing money, it’s a no no for me. I dont borrow nor lend money for gambling purposes.
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Therefore, if you want to gamble, do it yourself. Don't invite people or even your friends to watch and give you advice in making bets.
we play, we use our own money, and there is no need for other people's interference. if a problem occurs then they will leave without providing a solution. If they give you a loan, I think it's just a trick to trap you in interest-bearing debt. it's the beginning of a gambler's financial ruin.

Yeah mate, you are correct loans are another way to create traps for gamblers, and I most say, honestly speaking not everyone we hang around with are actually good for our financial health. Some person you think are your friends are just there beside you because you are doing well, some even go further to evy you and then put you in a situation of regret. That why most of the time I do my gambling online in my room without involving any one or letting them know. When you gamble all by yourself, it will be difficult to take loan to continue when you are a responsible gambler.

Gambling friends? Well, majority of them are not a good friends, they are only good when you have plenty but in times when you are on your worst financial situation, don't get surprised because they will slowly crawl back away from you. So, I don't suggest to get attached with gambling friends.
Loans on the other hand is one way of getting yourself into financial troubles that would lead to depression and worse getting broke and homeless.
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