Topic: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? - page 10. (Read 1972 times)

I agree with you because gamblers will not be that stupid in making decisions even though we may often be wrong in taking action. Gambling that is lived only for fun is not a big problem because we know this is done only in certain conditions. Usually I gamble when I have free time and get a little bonus from work, the goal is that I do not use a daily budget for other needs to gamble.

Unfortunately there is no way for those who are addicted to avoid emotional because when they lose some of the initial bets will make them more motivated to continue and their hopes can get a victory in the next gambling and even though it is no guarantee. Different when someone only gambles for pleasure and maybe they are a little more able to rely on emotions so as not to lose a lot of money.

Yeah, that's what I thought too. The only problem is, we don't really know the dude who said that so we cannot judge if he is being sarcastic or not. But OP seems to be taking it seriously. There are gamblers who like to play with the minds of those new to the gambling industry and the cause could be boredom because they lack the money to gamble again. I've seen many of these types of people in the chatbox of a gambling site. They tend to just waste their time being sarcastic with other people or sometimes they beg so that they can play again even if it's just for $1.

Perhaps if somebody knows that dude it should be OP because he is part of their group and some gamblers do the same chat over and over or discuss things about the same topic only. He could be playing mind games or he is serious about what he said but it is not recommended to do loans just for our bad habits.
It's gambling, not an investment so we may as well treat it like that or else we are going to lose more in the long run.

Gambling should not be the highest priority in life. Moreover, having to use money from a loan to gamble is the same as risking your whole life.
But it seems like this is sarcastic language for your friend who is addicted to gambling. Because whatever it is, you have to gamble happily, without using all your funds.
What is written is really stupid advice in my opinion, because it influences your friend to use the money from the loan and tells him to continue gambling.

Basically, I think that if the involvement is still within reasonable limits, which means that it does not cause too many financial problems for him, then I think there is nothing wrong if the activity has really become a habit in his environment, but the problem may be that this situation is quite worrying because after all, something that is uncontrollable is always unpredictable, or it means that there may be times when one of those who try occasionally acts aggressively and excessively. That's right, this situation does need to be watched and controlled well so that all involved don't end up addicted.

One of the things that can be done is maybe I hope there is one of them who always reminds them about the dangers of addiction or even better to remind each other so that they can keep their awareness so as not to overdo it. On the other hand, the fact that losing control and forgetting some of the boundaries they have made before are still very likely to happen as I said above when they are really tempted by something they see. So in my opinion what is better is if they can better find other activities on weekends such as going to one of the entertainment venues or the gym and get used to it slowly, because after all in my opinion gambling is an activity that inevitably has to use money and the risk of losing is always lurking.

It's obvious sarcasm for the group. Who in their right mind would behave in such a way? It's like a recurring joke for the group to avoid irresponsible gambling behavior. If your friends have made it a mandatory activity to gamble every weekend because of a game or chat, then it's important to remind them to gamble responsibly. As a friend, it's your responsibility to ensure they are not engaging in harmful behavior. The individual who initiated the score prediction game does so to bring joy to your group chats.

I take it as a sarcasm, not sure how you take that message, I guess you think it's serious.

The reason why I think it's sarcasm since your friend suggest to take a loan for gambling which is obviously stupid, some of my friends making fun with such jokes too. Maybe you could keep watching your friend about what he do and what his life in the next month, if nothing bad happen then your friends aren't taking out a loan to gamble.

It depends on how each individual sees that. Your friends and colleagues in the group chat can tell if they are addicted to what you guys do every weekend or if they just do it for fun and it wouldn't affect them or their mind if they stop doing it. Sports betting in general isn't as addictive as gambling games, and  if one is only doing it once a week or maybe twice or thrice a week just to have some fun, that wouldn't have that big of an impact on them and their life.

However, if the ones who are participating in this are taking it way too seriously like everyone is trying to win at any cost, they are getting rude to each other and having personal grudges because of it, the friendliness is turning into enmity, then I would say it is turning into something bad and we can't call that being fun.

For me, it borders on criminal. Recommending non-stop gambling to people selling them that they are going to win generational wealth can only be taken as a joke because if it is serious it is totally delusional and asking for loans for gambling in the same context should not even be said as a joke.


I think that is the only way that what is written has a pass, that he is hooked and sick in the head, so what he needs is psychological help.

Gambling with a loan? This is wrong and financially suicide. Any intelligent person knows that gambling is a risk, although a calculated one. Borrowing money increases your risk and plunges you into a financial pit. Discuss addiction. The monster whispers the next great win. However, we realize that win is a mere illusion. Gamble, lose, borrow, repeat—despair. As debt mounts, what do you have? An ocean of regret and a bank account begging for mercy.

If you want to gamble, fine. Use your own fun budget. But with borrowed money? A one-way ticket to Ruinsville. Though financial ruin is a major factor, it's not everything. The mental toll, tension, and worry. Getting up every day knowing you owe money you kind of wasted? Constant tension and regret are a nightmare. Remember the effects on relationships, careers, and life. Gambling with borrowed money is a whole different tragedy than with your own. Avoid the loan shark's bait and be savvy.

And what we need to be careful of is that we should not be easily tempted by interesting things in gambling, like the example above, in my opinion this is a trap or attraction for gamblers that they will win, so don't stop gambling. Then what about the results if we carry out these orders, will we really win? that's still questionable.

And what is certain is that when we gamble we must always be careful, it's a good idea for us to carefully research and understand every quote or post that we think is still very doubtful, so that we don't experience new losses and problems when gambling.

Gambling with the amount you can afford to lose won't make you deeply addicted and it's nothing but fun.  But when you spend more money on gambling than you can afford it will lead to many bad experiences for you and at one point you will play in a deep addiction from which you will not be able to come out.  The way op posted the screenshot doesn't sound like the person who posted it is in their normal behavior.  So I think he might be deeply addicted to gambling

Hell yeah. It's so obvious, lol. But, it's also possible that the one who send that message are addicted to gambling. We don't know, maybe he wants the people in the group to be like him? I don't find that word often in the groups (private or public) but I think I already heard the first sentence in the pic.

There is only a slight difference on the way they wrote it but the point of the message are the same. If I remember it goes like this "gamblers stops, when they are close to hitting the jackpot ". When it comes to gambling loans, the only way I know that gamblers will make a loan, is if they gather a legit insider info about a match that is going to get fixed/manipulated. As that is sure than the others.

That's right, don't take a loan to gamble because it's not a solution to the losses that have occurred, those who lose by gambling and take action to take a loan to gamble again is the wrong decision, there is no guarantee that they will win by taking out a loan. Maybe that is the stupidest act that gamblers do, because they are addicted to gambling so it is natural that they do many things to get money and to gamble again. it's just that it will only make them difficult in the future by living in debt, it will make it difficult for them every day, because there are more responsibilities that they have to think about, especially if they don't work but they are addicted to gambling and taking out loans to be able to gamble is a deliberate problem. invited. However, if you really want to gamble, you should use personal money or bonus money so as not to interfere with your basic financial needs.

That's right, it will be difficult to solve everything if they are already in a lot of debt, and maybe their lives will be ruined by taking actions that are at great risk to themselves. because it is very rare for people who have debt to pay it, especially gamblers, even if they win, I don't think they will pay off their debt, instead they will gamble again to get a bigger win. taking a loan to gamble is a very wrong action.

This kind of quote can best be presented by a gambling company. Looking at it intrinsically, you'll notice that it has an underlying tone of "profit for the casinos" but if it isn't from the casinos or gambling companies then whoever came up with it is either someone who has won a bet or a game or someone who is addicted to gambling.

I find it as a joke. A gambler will never be that stupid to follow that (joke) advice. The message also tells us something -- gambling is just for fun, and nothing has to be serious about this, or else, this will lead us to take loans and our lives miserable. If we are into gambling, we make sure that we have nothing to regret when losing instead, accept the fact that we are not lucky today and stop, maybe the next, and come back again.

If we understand how gambling works, we don't need to be emotional. And avoid chasing our losses in order to avoid more losses.

Well from my own perspective if the gambler continue to gamble responsibly that isn't an addiction and should continue as long as they gamble with the amount of they can afford to lose, however they shouldn't go at the length of borrowing or obtaining a loan to gamble if done that is absolutely irresponsibility, of course that message posted on the WhatsApp group isn't a joke therefore it's the responsibility of each member of that group to use their initiative in deciding what to do with that advice and I am very sure almost all the members of the group wouldn't take that advice seriously as stated there because gambling responsibly won't provide or create a generational wealth rather provides extra source of income.

We need to take caution and exercise restraints about what we post on the internet and even what we consume on the internet. The have to power to capture and confuse our psychology. It could make those who are addicted more addicted and it could also discourage those who want to.

The OP should talk about this in his department WhatsApp. There should be a warning message for all to take responsibility.

IMO. That's a bad message. Gamblers who have been gambling for a long time will laugh at the message and say to themselves that someone is fooling other people through the messages sent.
Beginner gamblers who are still actively thinking will not agree to carry out messages like that because this is clearly an invitation to become poor, not an invitation to make gambling a pleasure.

In gambling, playing without debt is the most enjoyable thing so that winning and losing will not be a burden for gambling players.
Winning will make you happy, losing will definitely happen in the game.

This may be a joke because this is too much, and if truly this person is doing what he posted, then we can say it is addiction because anything that will make a gambler lose money and continue gambling to the extent of taking out a loan to gamble, I think that is addiction, and he has already gone far in gambling. I don’t think this person will stop gambling again. Any gambler who can borrow to gamble that is not for fun anymore If it’s for fun, he would have stopped if he didn’t get money to stake another game. But since he is already addicted, you can see that if he doesn’t have money to gamble, he will take out loans just to derive pleasure.

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However, this kind of thing isn't supposed to be posted publicly; new gamblers will take it seriously. Although gambling can be a good way to make money, we shouldn’t rely on it. So new gamblers may decide to take this type of step in gambling even if they are losing just to make money. Borrowing money to gamble is totally bad. If you don’t have money, don’t gamble. When you do, allocate some of it for your gambling activities, and the rest should be used for other necessary things that will have a positive impact on your life.

Losing is fine, that's normal in gambling. However, borrowing, that's like digging your own grave because it's already out of principle anymore, I mean that simply means we can't afford what we are doing the reason why we borrow.

Borrowing are only good if you have emergencies, at least for basic needs, and also you can borrow to start a business, it's kinda risky too like gambling but at least it's not based on luck because you have the skills and you trust on it to generate money for you.