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Topic: Whattomine - profitability website with basic json. - page 47. (Read 94955 times)

legendary
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Added Darknet to the gpu section. (Quark)
Replaced Keccak with Blake (14r) - You can now compare Decred on the gpu section.
legendary
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Ah... My bad. I misunderstood it.

What miner and catalyst version did you use to get 12Mhash from 280x? I'm quite surprised that my 280x can perform upto 12Mh.

Yeah its pretty selective. As far as I know, it can only be done with 5.1.0 optimized sgminer.
You can get both miner and bin from latest nicehash miner package.
This miner does not seem to work with some cards (For example 380, maybe all gcn 1.2?).
I am using 15.7.1 catalyst, the exact version should not matter much, as we are using a precompiled bin.

Here is my short post from sgminer about it: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14323184
legendary
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Mining Pool Hub

3. Sounds like you had a different (not default) value stored in a cookie for X11. Also possible you tried this when I have updated the multipliers Wink
Value for X11 is not supposed to change - the buttons are only for adapating the rates and powers from X11 values.

It's working well now.

4. 12Mhash is a real value for a single 280x, so is 250W power that goes with it.
For 750ti, as written in latest post, those values are: 3,25Mhash / 75W

Ah... My bad. I misunderstood it.


What miner and catalyst version did you use to get 12Mhash from 280x? I'm quite surprised that my 280x can perform upto 12Mh.
legendary
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@miningpoolhub

1.Those results are with genoil miner. Currently there is no way to get better results on 750ti and windows. (Some users report 5Mhash on linux)

2. I cant see a reason for x15 - no worthwhile coins that I know of (almost the same for x13)
Skein coins are added on the site, just not exposed on the main list. Can always be compared separately.

3. Sounds like you had a different (not default) value stored in a cookie for X11. Also possible you tried this when I have updated the multipliers Wink
Value for X11 is not supposed to change - the buttons are only for adapating the rates and powers from X11 values.

4. 12Mhash is a real value for a single 280x, so is 250W power that goes with it.
For 750ti, as written in latest post, those values are: 3,25Mhash / 75W
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Updated all adapt multipliers for 280x.
Default values now start with 12Mhash and 250W of X11.

For 750ti adapt, you can input those X11 values:
3,25Mhash
75W

Is x11 12Mhash is fixed number to normalize each algo?

What is the real hashrate for 280x and 750ti?
I would prefer real x11 hashrate for each hardware since I have to input normalized hashrate for each algo to compare. It's quite difficult.
legendary
Activity: 1456
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Mining Pool Hub
Great works!

1. Have you tried 750ti with CUDA supported ethminer from genoil?
https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/master/releases
Maybe this would give better accurate result.

2. How about adding X15, Skein algo too?

3. I see different results when switching 280x -> 750ti -> 280x
X11 hash is same as before but other algo numbers change. for example, x13 was 4000 kh/s at website visit but when I switch to 750ti, and back to 280x, I see 2240 kh/s
Some frontend js seems conflicted.

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1537
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Updated all adapt multipliers for 280x.
Default values now start with 12Mhash and 250W of X11.

For 750ti adapt, you can input those X11 values:
3,25Mhash
75W
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Updated Groestl hashrates for 280x and 750ti:
280x 23,8Mhash
750ti 8,3Mhash
Updated Myr-Groestl as well with about 1,5x Groestl multiplier.

Added Decred(DCR) coin to single calculators:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/152-dcr-blake-256
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

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I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)

Unfortunately the data is not quite the same either.  On the main page, there's "profitability" and "profitability24".  This has been replaced by "profit" on the pages for individual coins, which equates to the 24 hour average.  Since it's switching based on current difficulty that I'm looking to do, a 24 hour average is of no use to me.

Profitability is just `coin_revenue / dash_revenue`, same for profitability24: `coin_revenue24 / dash_revenue24`.

So all you have to do is call for example: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/114.json and save value of `difficulty`.
Then calculate revenue with that difficulty: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/114.json?d=difficulty&hr=hash_rate and save `btc_revenue` as `dgb_skein_revenue`. (remember to push hash_rate in correct units, Mhash in this case)

Now either repeat it for dashcoin: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/34.json, or get it directly from gpu json http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json under dash and `btc_revenue` saving as `dash_revenue`.

To receive final profitability to compare with other coins:
`dgb_skein_profitability = (dgb_skein_revenue / dash_revenue) * 100%`
member
Activity: 94
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Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

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I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)

Unfortunately the data is not quite the same either.  On the main page, there's "profitability" and "profitability24".  This has been replaced by "profit" on the pages for individual coins, which equates to the 24 hour average.  Since it's switching based on current difficulty that I'm looking to do, a 24 hour average is of no use to me.
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Dropped Scrypt coins from GPU section, which now compares all coins to Dashcoin.
Added Ethereum to main list with nicehash.

750ti values for ethereum are really small on windows7 - around 0,5 Mhash.
There are reports of people running 5Mhash per 750ti on linux, but I havent confirmed that.
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

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I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

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I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Ethereum single calculator available:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash

Within a week planning to drop scrypt from GPU section, set Dash as base, then add Ethereum.
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1006
Mining Pool Hub
@miningpoolhub

If I was to list the available pools, I would do it on coin page only.
Cant see a good place for it at the index for each coin.

Here are my multipliers:
factorsNV = {
    "#factor_lrev2_hr": 17.1,
    "#factor_cha17_hr": 0.0003,
    "#factor_cha14_hr": 0.013,
    "#factor_x11_hr": 12.0,
    "#factor_x13_hr": 9.4,
    "#factor_cn_hr": 0.00085,
    "#factor_ns_hr": 0.8113,
    "#factor_keccak_hr": 570,
    "#factor_gro_hr": 14,      
    "#factor_bkv_hr": 3770,
    "#factor_qb_hr": 19,
    "#factor_qk_hr": 23.5
  }

Those are picked for 750ti though.
Looks like I need to do some updating Cheesy


Yeah I understand about the link exchange.
I think I need to update too. Will check your results often too.

Thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
@miningpoolhub

If I was to list the available pools, I would do it on coin page only.
Cant see a good place for it at the index for each coin.

Here are my multipliers:
factorsNV = {
    "#factor_lrev2_hr": 17.1,
    "#factor_cha17_hr": 0.0003,
    "#factor_cha14_hr": 0.013,
    "#factor_x11_hr": 12.0,
    "#factor_x13_hr": 9.4,
    "#factor_cn_hr": 0.00085,
    "#factor_ns_hr": 0.8113,
    "#factor_keccak_hr": 570,
    "#factor_gro_hr": 14,      
    "#factor_bkv_hr": 3770,
    "#factor_qb_hr": 19,
    "#factor_qk_hr": 23.5
  }

Those are picked for 750ti though.
Looks like I need to do some updating Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1006
Mining Pool Hub
@miningpoolhub What exactly do you mean by link exchange?
Pools somehow linking to WTM? Where could that be placed in mpos ui?

Feel free to reference anything you need Smiley
You can also report odd results, so I could retest with newest miners.

Well something like nicehash, miningrigrentals banner image shown on miningpoolhub.com main page.
Or maybe some text links like on http://cryptomining-blog.com/  "Links" tab.


Here are some factors on our pool.

        "algoNormalizerNvidia": {
            "scrypt": 1,
            "scrypt-n": 0.5,
            "keccak": 793,
            "groestl": 39,
            "groestlmyriad": 38,
            "jha": 21,
            "x11": 15.43,
            "x13": 12.25,
            "x15": 10.77,
            "nist5": 50.98,
            "sha256": 0,
            "neoscrypt": 0.48,
            "qubit": 24.02,
            "quark": 25.75,
            "skein": 362,
            "scrypt-n-execoin": 0.3,
            "lyra2re2": 21.1,
            "blakevanilla": 3770
        },

This data was gathered, tested, referenced, and calculated average from so many sites so I don't remember exactly.
Maybe I have to reset all data and retest whole.
legendary
Activity: 1537
Merit: 1005
@miningpoolhub What exactly do you mean by link exchange?
Pools somehow linking to WTM? Where could that be placed in mpos ui?

Feel free to reference anything you need Smiley
You can also report odd results, so I could retest with newest miners.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1006
Mining Pool Hub
You've done a great work.
I have one suggestion and one question.

- Suggestion
Maybe it would be better listing available mining pool for coins. (Well I'm running a mining pool too  Smiley)

- Question
How did you gather algorithm hash factor for each GPU?

Thanks Wink

- I have thought about it, but came to the conclusion that keeping the list up to date would take a lot of time.
While you, suprnova, coinmine and aika (anything else online with multi-coin?) would probably update me, I am sure other smaller operators wont.
Still open to suggestions though Wink

- I own both 750ti and 280x cards and run the miners myself on all of the algos to report hashes.
I may not have the latest public kernel results, but I think its pretty accurate.
Noticed something odd?


Maybe link exchange would be better as it would not need updates.

I tested my gpu and referenced factor from cryptomining-blog.com too.
There are some differences (of course). Not odd but I was just curious how you gathered.
May I reference these hash factors also?
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