We need all transaction kind between traditional and modern market, some time when we are getting many people still use payment by traditional market, we have allowed what they have did.
It could be harder but that’s beneficial as this is both the best among us but the reason why governments are not allowing people to own both is because they are confused that maybe people will start adopting only the modern system and this will be a little dangerous for the traditional market. The modern the better it’s my opinion mate. 
Topic: When traditional markets fall, alternative markets fall harder (Read 726 times)
January 08, 2019, 11:50:04 AM
As long as you manage to distribute the blockchain equally in a p2p sense than you do not need crypto currencies to make blockchain decentralized. You just need other stuff, it could be tokens, it could be something else but you need to give the power to people instead of giving it to just one place. Aside from that blockchain could be centralized if its not about money to begin with.
Lets assume you are going to build a software for governments to keep track of a certain data, government could use blockchain software and be the sole user of that blockchain without giving out the power to anyone else. It will be centralized like hell but that is fine since the purpose is not to give power to anyone else anyway. Hence blockchain is looking like a bigger player than crypto right now and the adoption is much faster.
Lets assume you are going to build a software for governments to keep track of a certain data, government could use blockchain software and be the sole user of that blockchain without giving out the power to anyone else. It will be centralized like hell but that is fine since the purpose is not to give power to anyone else anyway. Hence blockchain is looking like a bigger player than crypto right now and the adoption is much faster.
January 08, 2019, 07:04:51 AM
The problem is we think too much, we always associate what is happening now to the past.
Bitcoin is different, it's the first decentralized tech that was created in the space and it has a real purpose which is beneficial to the users.
Not all the time we follow the trend in the past so maybe this time we move on a different trend and we follow our old trend in crypto which is pump > correction, vise versa.
Thanks for sharing OP, but I have different views than your opinion, I'm bullish with crypto despite that we've been corrected hard last year.
Bitcoin is different, it's the first decentralized tech that was created in the space and it has a real purpose which is beneficial to the users.
Not all the time we follow the trend in the past so maybe this time we move on a different trend and we follow our old trend in crypto which is pump > correction, vise versa.
Thanks for sharing OP, but I have different views than your opinion, I'm bullish with crypto despite that we've been corrected hard last year.
January 08, 2019, 06:55:59 AM
There are a direct correlation between traditional markets and Crypto currency investments in my opinion. When the Stock markets takes a plunge, professional traders starts looking for safe investments and Bitcoin and Crypto currency investments are not one of them.
A few years ago Bitcoin was seen as a good store of value, but in 2018 the 70%+ drop in the Bitcoin price smashed that perception with the average investor. Bitcoin is now a high risk investment and when prices on stock market shares fall, Bitcoin takes a beating too, because investors pull investments from high risk investments.
A few years ago Bitcoin was seen as a good store of value, but in 2018 the 70%+ drop in the Bitcoin price smashed that perception with the average investor. Bitcoin is now a high risk investment and when prices on stock market shares fall, Bitcoin takes a beating too, because investors pull investments from high risk investments.
January 08, 2019, 05:31:27 AM
When traditional markets fall, alternative markets fall harder but then crypto is a very different market compare to those traditional. If you take a look at the examples OP gave, the pattern is consistent being higher highs higher lows which means crypto is still in a bullish market. Unless it plunged to less than $200 and by then you can say its sloping.
January 08, 2019, 05:29:39 AM
When traditional markets fall, alternative markets fall harder but then crypto is a very different market compare to those traditional. If you take a look at the examples OP gave, the pattern is consistent being higher highs higher lows which means crypto is still in a bullish market. Unless it plunged to less than $200 and by then you can say its sloping.
January 08, 2019, 05:09:21 AM
When traditional markets fall, alternative markets fall harder but then crypto is a very different market compare to those traditional. If you take a look at the examples OP gave, the pattern is consistent being higher highs higher lows which means crypto is still in a bullish market. Unless it plunged to less than $200 and by then you can say its sloping.
January 08, 2019, 04:47:01 AM
this is my opinion right now, I think blockchain technology is here to stay but I put into a debate if crypto tokens will be here to stay.
We can't achieve a decentralized currency without a valuable token in it(Bitcoin). Indeed blockchain technology could survive without cryptocurrencies but it will end up to be centralized technology which it is useless to not maximalize the potential use cases of the blockchain.
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having said this it is also really posible that cryptos stop existing at all, because there are coins that really don't need a blockchain and are just pump ICO'S that have no real purpose, the only thing that its left is the blockchain technology by itself that dosnt really need to have a token with value attached to work, the world could adopt the blockchain technology without the need to have a pump token attached to it
The problem occurs is because there are still a lot of people that deceived by a useless project. Scammer won't keep recreating an altcoin and coming up with the same idea(no purpose and no real life usage) if the scam method isn't profitable. having said this it is also really posible that cryptos stop existing at all, because there are coins that really don't need a blockchain and are just pump ICO'S that have no real purpose, the only thing that its left is the blockchain technology by itself that dosnt really need to have a token with value attached to work, the world could adopt the blockchain technology without the need to have a pump token attached to it
January 08, 2019, 04:40:18 AM
This because most of the crypto are just altcoins for bitcoin. This is the reason why all of the crypto in the market will be influence by bitcoin market price movement. What you say is really true about the fall of this altcoins but mind you that altcoins also could go a good market price increase than bitcoin.
for now we certainly don't know yet, whether bitcoin and alt coin will later increase altcoin. because we cannot easily predict the situation in the future. so it takes time to find out, and when it happens we know it.
Therefore, the crypto market will definitely increase in the future and the market will still face price manipulation with or no ETF and BAKKT.
January 08, 2019, 04:11:09 AM
We need all transaction kind between traditional and modern market, some time when we are getting many people still use payment by traditional market, we have allowed what they have did.
January 07, 2019, 11:55:21 PM
This because most of the crypto are just altcoins for bitcoin. This is the reason why all of the crypto in the market will be influence by bitcoin market price movement. What you say is really true about the fall of this altcoins but mind you that altcoins also could go a good market price increase than bitcoin.
for now we certainly don't know yet, whether bitcoin and alt coin will later increase altcoin. because we cannot easily predict the situation in the future. so it takes time to find out, and when it happens we know it.
January 06, 2019, 07:11:33 PM
This because most of the crypto are just altcoins for bitcoin. This is the reason why all of the crypto in the market will be influence by bitcoin market price movement. What you say is really true about the fall of this altcoins but mind you that altcoins also could go a good market price increase than bitcoin.
for now we certainly don't know yet, whether bitcoin and alt coin will later increase altcoin. because we cannot easily predict the situation in the future. so it takes time to find out, and when it happens we know it.
January 06, 2019, 01:55:15 PM
It may change as well on some occasions so it really depends about the current economic situation of the world.Now the stocks are getting low with the crypto currencies but investment like gold still at the same range.
No gold is not good or meaningful investment as well as I think both traditional and alternative market has no connection. According to me the alternative market is about crypto which is different than the traditional both of them has no connection so it’s useless to compare both. January 06, 2019, 02:56:10 AM
Yes that do happen to stock markets and the rest of them, but I don’t think it happens to cryptocurrency market. Cryptocurrency has no connections to other markets and no one controls the cryptocurrency market, that’s why no one can close down the crypto market. Sometimes, forks can be a reason as to why prices fall. When a cryptocurrency is forked the price is affected heavily.
right, with a decentralized system, cryptocurrency is formed from requests and offers that occur, although there is no connection with others, but because of their nature, the whales often play the market 
January 06, 2019, 01:58:53 AM
Yes that do happen to stock markets and the rest of them, but I don’t think it happens to cryptocurrency market. Cryptocurrency has no connections to other markets and no one controls the cryptocurrency market, that’s why no one can close down the crypto market. Sometimes, forks can be a reason as to why prices fall. When a cryptocurrency is forked the price is affected heavily.
January 05, 2019, 01:36:49 PM
The main issue in this regard with the crypto market is that the only channel to investing is through FIAT such as USD.
No, I'm having enough services to invest into cryptos with my local fiats and I'm not completely depending on USD hence it means I'm not depending on US economy with the respect to crypto investments at least. If there's an economic crash in the US and people try to cut their investments then there will be less dollars to flow in to crypto.
Again you are wrong, when there will be a crash in US, then there will be more money flow into crypto but you're stating people will cut. Because, people will not invest into US based stocks but they will look for other investment opportunities.Within crypto there would likely be no the same struggles, that's why low cap alts that only seem to trade BTC/alt don't have too much fluctuation in times like this.
Those lowcap markets are not fluctuating due to various reasons, one of them must be due to lack of new investors but it is very loosely tied but the downfall of crypto market as you have mentioned. There are altccoins which are performing well even entire crypto market was falling down, good example in recent times is waves. January 05, 2019, 06:56:40 AM
for the token market circulation that you might focus on may depend on the trading volume of the token, as long as the token has a trading volume then the exchange will still provide an opportunity to remain registered at the exchange, but if the trading volume is not there at all maybe it will make the token a delete list from the exchange.
because the exchange will only continue to provide a list of tokens that have a high trading volume to remain in the exchange.
because the exchange will only continue to provide a list of tokens that have a high trading volume to remain in the exchange.
January 04, 2019, 03:34:04 PM
it seems that it will not be possible and the traditional market will still remain because not everyone who understands cryptocurrency or other digital currencies so that until the end of this earth revolves, there will still be traditional exchange places in various countries.
You could be right that real market is not going to fall ever it will maintain good price value and it will never end at all. This only changes to give us better opportunities but never get down to make the alternatives down. The other basic thing we really need to know is that apparently both the alternative market has no connection with traditional market both are totally changed.
January 04, 2019, 05:51:13 AM
It may change as well on some occasions so it really depends about the current economic situation of the world.Now the stocks are getting low with the crypto currencies but investment like gold still at the same range.
January 04, 2019, 05:40:56 AM
This because most of the crypto are just altcoins for bitcoin. This is the reason why all of the crypto in the market will be influence by bitcoin market price movement. What you say is really true about the fall of this altcoins but mind you that altcoins also could go a good market price increase than bitcoin.
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