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legendary
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April 27, 2020, 11:43:51 AM
#13
the study itself says 30 of 3330   (the revised the numbers by the look of it as they had some false positives)
that is the evidence

the study does not say 50-80x of people tested have antibodies
show me your evidence it says that.

show me the study.. not the faux media story. show me your evidence

the study shows less than 1% exposure
other studies from multiple places.. including a study of hospital staff. showed only a 2% antibody result
legendary
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April 27, 2020, 11:19:36 AM
#12
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


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Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study

But since you don't have any proof of what you say, and since many other people understand the figures differently than you do, everything you say is hype and hearsay and blab.

The evidence in studies is that the world is possibly 90% infected, and that herd immunity has kept most of the people from becoming sick.

The evidence is there, as well, that the official figures are tremendous exaggerations, and lies.

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legendary
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April 27, 2020, 09:37:49 AM
#11
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

yes, that's right but in few months the situation will calm dow a little bit - i hope so Huh Huh


Virus and pandemic will exist. Countries can have lock downs to prevent to spread it. Yes now masks and other medical supplies are more available as were 1 month ago. Also number of available hospital beds expanded. So lock downs can be less strict. But before 60% vaccined or immunity happen there will need to be some. Countries and regions like Lombardy and New York where 20% people already had covid-19 will have huge advantage. Countries that barely had any infected will have to have similar measures as fro first wave.
legendary
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April 27, 2020, 03:57:03 AM
#10
You still don't understand that the California study included Covid-19 antibodies in most (if not all) of the people. Antibodies don't just pop into existence for the fun of it. They are built by the immune system as a protection against some disease... in this case Covid-19.

you lying ignorant stupid idiot
no the study did not include results that antibodies in most(if not all people)

only 50 of 3300 tested had antibodies.
your an utter idiot
50 had the antibodies not 3300

try to read the actual study and stop being an idiot troll
legendary
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April 27, 2020, 03:21:15 AM
#9
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


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Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study

But second and third opinions often show that doctors are wrong in their diagnoses.


You still don't understand that the California study included Covid-19 antibodies in most (if not all) of the people. Antibodies don't just pop into existence for the fun of it. They are built by the immune system as a protection against some disease... in this case Covid-19.

What this means is that nearly all of the people in the study had been exposed to CV, but most of them remained healthy because their immune systems reacted by building the antibodies.

But the most important part of the study was the way it was done. It was done in such a way that the findings can be extrapolated to the rest of society. In other words, most of society has been exposed to CV, and are healthy from their own antibodies.

When you add the results of the study to the fact of bad testing for CV in general, and the fact of calling it CV no matter what it is, it's easy to see that there is essentially nothing to Covid-19. It's not a pandemic. Government and the medical know it. The people are finding out, and are going back to work.

Cool
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April 26, 2020, 10:54:35 PM
#8

no one can be sure when this corona virus will end. in my country help for people who have stopped working get help for 3 months. with predictions that the situation could decrease when the weather starts to heat up and it is expected that the corona virus will stop by itself. but that is an assumption, the proof is that an African country that is indeed hot weather is still infected.

because what is feared from the corona virus is that, the corona virus has no symptoms at all, it still looks healthy. this is what makes the corona virus severance chain even more difficult. a thorough examination is needed both with symptoms or not, so that it can be separated and not contagious.
we hope that the examination tools are easier and more numerous and if possible, there is indeed a cure for it.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
April 26, 2020, 10:07:08 PM
#7
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


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Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study
legendary
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Merit: 1373
April 26, 2020, 08:26:05 PM
#6
As I have been saying, it's not Covid-19 or even Coronavirus. Rather, it's a lie!


According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths



Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

1) Either people living in these States have weak immunity and therefore are likely to develop COVID-19 coronavirus or tuberculosis, or both; and/or

2) The fact most cases of lung pathology occur along the southern border and New York City, where immigrants enter the country, typically with dormant or latent cases of TB.  TB may be an uninvestigated co-morbidity that is causing many deaths attributed to COVID-19 coronavirus.

In the next graphic (below) the top chart indicates mortality from pneumonia and influenza only for 2016-2020 with a dramatic up-spike (red line) in early 2020.  The bottom chart displays data for total deaths from COVID-19 coronavirus in addition to pneumonia and influenza for Oct. 2015-April 2020 with a sharp increase in the third and fourth months of 2020 (red line).  When both charts are compared, it is obvious that the reported increase in deaths is largely due to pneumonia or influenza, not COVID-19.

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In the next graphic (below) the top chart indicates mortality from pneumonia and influenza only for 2016-2020 with a dramatic up-spike (red line) in early 2020.  The bottom chart displays data for total deaths from COVID-19 coronavirus in addition to pneumonia and influenza for Oct. 2015-April 2020 with a sharp increase in the third and fourth months of 2020 (red line).  When both charts are compared, it is obvious that the reported increase in deaths is largely due to pneumonia or influenza, not COVID-19.


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April 26, 2020, 05:37:20 PM
#5
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

yes, that's right but in few months the situation will calm dow a little bit - i hope so Huh Huh
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April 26, 2020, 05:36:04 PM
#4
covid does like warm weather.
africa for instance is suffering and they have 40O weather. so hoping northern hemesphere nations that only suffer form 25-35O. means the weather wont irradicate it.
infact. the warmer weather will make people want to get out of their houses and socialise and go places other people are. thus causing an increase of infectee's

if there was no isolations no restrictions. a country like america could start at 50 infectees in week 1 and have gone through all 320mill in just 21 weeks. but that would be with MILLIONS of hospitalisations, which hospitals cant cope with. where hospitals would have gone to capacity in just 9 weeks


by implementing isolations at week 6 means the r0 shows a low % of population infected and if they lower the number and release the restrictions a little and tighten them when needed it would be low 0.x% a month, meaning years for full population spread.

to avoid waves of needing to tighten restrictions and keep it at a low 0.x% per month level. the countries will need to ensure people socially distance AND contact trace those infected with those they came near.

take for instance sweden. it is not really doing much contact tracing and is just relying on social distance. the numbers are rising and they are going to reach a critical point of infections where they will need to lockdown to save hospitals being overwhelmed
they have only had it for 5 weeks since their 50 case week 1, where as US/UK are nearer 10th week

taking a look at china who had their 50th infectee at the start of january. they are much far ahead and they done all the required restrictions including contact tracing. but if you look at their low numbers of infectee's against their large billion population. they will never achieve 'herd immunity levels for many many years

the only real hopes are:
a treatment that can lower the risk of needing hospitalisations.
restrictions to some extent and loosening/tightening them for next couple years
increasing hospital capacity to let it expand to 1-2% spread a month before tightening. instead of 0.x%
having a vaccine available soon to inoculate people to reduce hospital requirement and deathcounts

in short.
dont think it will disappear over summer


i know it will not disappear but i think the situation will calm down a bit and people will live normal again as much as it's possible

legendary
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April 26, 2020, 04:12:44 PM
#3
covid does like warm weather.
africa for instance is suffering and they have 40O weather. so hoping northern hemesphere nations that only suffer form 25-35O. means the weather wont irradicate it.
infact. the warmer weather will make people want to get out of their houses and socialise and go places other people are. thus causing an increase of infectee's

if there was no isolations no restrictions. a country like america could start at 50 infectees in week 1 and have gone through all 320mill in just 21 weeks. but that would be with MILLIONS of hospitalisations, which hospitals cant cope with. where hospitals would have gone to capacity in just 9 weeks


by implementing isolations at week 6 means the r0 shows a low % of population infected and if they lower the number and release the restrictions a little and tighten them when needed it would be low 0.x% a month, meaning years for full population spread.

to avoid waves of needing to tighten restrictions and keep it at a low 0.x% per month level. the countries will need to ensure people socially distance AND contact trace those infected with those they came near.

take for instance sweden. it is not really doing much contact tracing and is just relying on social distance. the numbers are rising and they are going to reach a critical point of infections where they will need to lockdown to save hospitals being overwhelmed
they have only had it for 5 weeks since their 50 case week 1, where as US/UK are nearer 10th week

taking a look at china who had their 50th infectee at the start of january. they are much far ahead and they done all the required restrictions including contact tracing. but if you look at their low numbers of infectee's against their large billion population. they will never achieve 'herd immunity levels for many many years

the only real hopes are:
a treatment that can lower the risk of needing hospitalisations.
restrictions to some extent and loosening/tightening them for next couple years
increasing hospital capacity to let it expand to 1-2% spread a month before tightening. instead of 0.x%
having a vaccine available soon to inoculate people to reduce hospital requirement and deathcounts

in short.
dont think it will disappear over summer

legendary
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Merit: 1288
April 26, 2020, 02:28:00 PM
#2
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.
member
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April 26, 2020, 02:12:11 PM
#1
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.
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