Topic: When will covid-19 disappear? - page 5. (Read 1956 times)

JAMA Network, April 22, 2020, "Presenting Characteristics, Comorbidities, and Outcomes Among 5700 Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 in the New York City Area":

"Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 19.8% and 26.6%, respectively."

Well, of course, the people who were put on ventilators were the most ill patients to begin with, right? Perhaps. We don't know that.

In any case, the numbers are shocking.

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From Medscape, there is more: “Life-threatening breathing difficulties can occur in patients who use gabapentin or pregabalin with opioids or other drugs that depress the central nervous system, as well as those with underlying respiratory impairment and the elderly, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned in a drug safety communication issued today.”

2018 estimate of deaths from opioid overdoses in New York: 3000. Many more people in the New York area are addicted to these drugs. In New York State, in 2017, the number of people discharged from hospitals, after treatment for opioid overdose or dependency: 25,000.

In 2020, still more people who have developed opioid hypoxia would be missed, because they are diagnosed with “COVID-19 lung problems.” Some of these people would be put on ventilators—ignoring the need to deal with their overdose, their addiction, their withdrawal—and they would die.

actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans

there is actual evidence in existance and test results

but it seems too many ignorant losers just beleive faux media like info wars/hotwire and other fake stuff that have no clue

diabetes does not cause pneumonia alone. but having covid which causes pneumonia and then gets into your blood causes even worse issues for people with diabeties by causing kidney failure aswell as the pneumonia

people with heart issues wont cope well when having pneumonia because the hypoxia causes people peoples heart rate to work harder and a damaged heart cant cope

its not people having a random heart attack for no reason and it just classified as covid. its actually having covid and their other complications not helping them cope/recover

atleast try better at doing research because these stupid scripts you ignorant people are spouting have been debunked and yet you lot seem to remain ignorant to not even realise that

people in hospitals have actual medical records, symptom lists, test results and scan results.
its not some magic story of sudden unexplained death where they just scribble a random cause

charts of 'other' are not going down.
idiot
CDCreports of deaths when they do their double checks show that the numbers increased
on average the death of all causes is ~57k a week. but it got progressively much more each week while infections of covid started.

normal influenza death were only 400. so its not like that number can impact the thousands. so something new is killing people recently

anyway. i know your just going to bait and switch arguments back to koch. so ill save you time
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full
theres just one of many koch proof that what they test for is the virus because when they put it into other animals. they get sick too
they examine it using many different methods. so you cant say its a fault method. again for the many times.
when there are soo many independant tests using different patients in different hospitals and different labs with different equipment and different methods. all coming to the same results.  it passes koch postulum

try using google but without limiting it to your freeman site. and you will get better results

AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

Arguably different, cuz it seems to be resulted from the man-made virus designed to affect the human body in the most effective way. No one  is  aware what he has in his arsenal.

TLDR

you might want to check the link. all the info is there
including the process
your ignorance does not prove there is no process your ignorance proves you want to deny there is a process

heck if you finally accept the process but then want to say it must be the equipment
EG if all roads were motorcycle lanes. youll never find a car..
again the link shows different equipment and also different methods of using the different equipment

heck if you accept different equipment but then want to say its the hospital/doctor. again the link shows different hospitals different labs different countries.

in short if there are 100 different ways to identify a tree. and you have 1000 people sampling a tree and they all match up.. .. then its a tree

oh and the NIH site also has lots of things like xrays and blood tests results and stuff from patient medical records

and before you troll on the next level that we are all in the matrix and nothing is real.. now you really would need to sort your head out

Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

i gave the idiot above links to the genome sequences done by multiple labs in multiple countries which showed that through their individual processes they found the same results. {1}

the results were from individual patients which had the same symptoms so having the same genome results shows they narrowed it down to being the same pathogen cause.

they also done studies on rodents by infecting a healthy rodent with a pathogen and when it too got sick they knew they had the pathogen narrowed down{2}
there is actual viral microscope images of covid showing it as a ball shape with spikes. which shows its nothing like an ebola virus which looks like knotted rope.

they have results that its similar to other corona virals like SARS and MERS meaning its the covid family. but not exact enough to actually be the near 2 decade of SARS strain
they realised it has never been discovered in humans before 2019 and so they called it covid19.

they know the genome{1}
they know what the virus looks like physically{2}
they know what protein enzymes it has
they have a list of symptomology that it causes
heck they even know how it invades the cells by using the ace2 receptor

but badecker will remain stuck in the past of january myths. and will just dismiss this answer like the other topics. and will just pretend it has not been answered by asking it again after a few days/in another topic. like the idiot he is

or instead badecker can try researching for once.
its called google. type in a search and you will find it.

My guess would be mid 2021 

My guess would be mid 2021 

Do you know that you are not exactly informed?
already, millions of people around the world have died and are still dying (including medical staff) according to your theory, for no reason. They could be informed about all sick and dead people (especially the number of these people) who have their families and loved ones. And now you are saying that all this is a lie and that these people died for no reason.

😎

small correction for lucija .. its more like a quarter of a mill so far
but places like america are at over 60k excess deaths above normal
its not 60k deaths shifted from one category to another. its 60k EXCESS above the norm
USA usually has flu/pneumona deaths of 4k a week. but take the week of 4th april has 13k. because it still lists ~4k of normal flu/pneumonia. but also ~8k excess deaths of just covid(COVID TESTED)
the very fact that numbers from all causes/other causes still calulate the same. means its not a shift of death. and the new deaths ontop being covid confirmed

(u07.1 CDC confirmed=CDC main lab double checked (u0001))
(u07.1 CDC presumed=local/regional lab tested. cdc trust quality of these labs (u0002))

The only thing you do is find some information that is obviously not true and post it here to prove something that is not true. Of course the media is full of false information, but as for the existence of covid - 19 it certainly exists because, as I stated before, a million people have already died from the disease and you are proving that it is not real. Everyone has their own opinion, and so you are not to disrespect your opinion, but I try to correct it.