Topic: When will covid-19 disappear? - page 7. (Read 1956 times)
Hi. I'm new in this forum. I think that this type of pandemic due to global warming will become more common. At least, the planet seems to appreciate our confinement.
We can't hurt economy for saving a few lives. If it don't go away, we have to live with this.
a UK draft proposal of how things will relax. shows that they will not have social distancing in work places.
meaning office workers can be shoulder to shoulder sharing the same staff canteen.
yet people walking along a outdoor pavement suppose to be 2 metres apart when just walking past someone for 2 seconds.. but allowed to be shoulder to shoulder for a 9 hour shift at work...
i see brits will start to relax too much and give up socially distancing all together with the 'im allowed to do it at work, so whats the point anymore' excuse
truly hope UK government have good planing and good success with contact tracing if they want to relax workplace restrictions that much. other wise a second ave quite quick will occur
to me it seems more of a political/economic decision. not a health risk decision
meaning office workers can be shoulder to shoulder sharing the same staff canteen.
yet people walking along a outdoor pavement suppose to be 2 metres apart when just walking past someone for 2 seconds.. but allowed to be shoulder to shoulder for a 9 hour shift at work...
i see brits will start to relax too much and give up socially distancing all together with the 'im allowed to do it at work, so whats the point anymore' excuse
truly hope UK government have good planing and good success with contact tracing if they want to relax workplace restrictions that much. other wise a second ave quite quick will occur
to me it seems more of a political/economic decision. not a health risk decision
I believe it would be much harder to contain covid-19 in third world countries with high population density like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and some poor African countries as more people there are likely to get the virus while on quarantine. And as the virus lives, it would keep on circulating.
how i see things playing out with the 'contact and trace'
in china. the reason they got numbers down is they done very good contact and trace. for every infectee they informed ~10 close contacts to isolate. and they checked on those isolated daily for a couple weeks. bringing them food and other essentials so that they didnt go out.
those isolated as potential infectees were not given a covid test daily. instead they had temperature checked and only tested after multiple days (obviously, whats the point in testing too early before the viral load has had a chance to get high enough to even measure)
what i mean by this is dont expect to be told to isolate and get a test through the door the next day and the following day be given the all clear. expect to be self isolating for a couple weeks
AND if after the couple weeks. you go out again. this does not mean your now immune. because while isolated you may not have actually contracted it. meaning you could bump into someone else again who does have it. and you can be told to isolate yourself again.
isolation does not always mean you got it. it just means reducing the spread by reducing those who came close that might have it.
you will only be given an all clear to not need to regularly isolate if you keep bumping into people. if you have been tested positive during one of your encounters
......
however imagine countries like america.. with idiots that will:
not download any contact tracer apps to inform them they came into proximity of someone(privacy evasion)
not want to be isolated for 14 days as a precaution
not want to be checked on daily
purposely bump into people to get it/spred it. so they wont have to be routinely isolated as a precaution
heck i dont even think american 'tracers' would bother daily checking. but instead just want people to voluntarily self isolate.. possibly at most do a daily phone call to ask if the isolated person is symptomatic
and only send a test if symptomatic. or at the 12th day to allow the release at the 14th day if clear
i see daily numbers in UK/US not being as low as china's purely 'due to freedoms'
in china. the reason they got numbers down is they done very good contact and trace. for every infectee they informed ~10 close contacts to isolate. and they checked on those isolated daily for a couple weeks. bringing them food and other essentials so that they didnt go out.
those isolated as potential infectees were not given a covid test daily. instead they had temperature checked and only tested after multiple days (obviously, whats the point in testing too early before the viral load has had a chance to get high enough to even measure)
what i mean by this is dont expect to be told to isolate and get a test through the door the next day and the following day be given the all clear. expect to be self isolating for a couple weeks
AND if after the couple weeks. you go out again. this does not mean your now immune. because while isolated you may not have actually contracted it. meaning you could bump into someone else again who does have it. and you can be told to isolate yourself again.
isolation does not always mean you got it. it just means reducing the spread by reducing those who came close that might have it.
you will only be given an all clear to not need to regularly isolate if you keep bumping into people. if you have been tested positive during one of your encounters
......
however imagine countries like america.. with idiots that will:
not download any contact tracer apps to inform them they came into proximity of someone(privacy evasion)
not want to be isolated for 14 days as a precaution
not want to be checked on daily
purposely bump into people to get it/spred it. so they wont have to be routinely isolated as a precaution
heck i dont even think american 'tracers' would bother daily checking. but instead just want people to voluntarily self isolate.. possibly at most do a daily phone call to ask if the isolated person is symptomatic
and only send a test if symptomatic. or at the 12th day to allow the release at the 14th day if clear
i see daily numbers in UK/US not being as low as china's purely 'due to freedoms'
But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.
the medical community has already shown good decentralised processes of finding a vaccine. many institutions are working on it. take for instance the cambridge trials. they are actually willing to do the work and release the info. they are not going to patent it and charge £xxxx a dose. they are going to let al countries have it and those countries make their own. (just gotta see if cambridge trials pass the tests)
this wont be a case of only the super rich can afford it. everyone will have the oppertunity to have it. including the homeless
the only question is TIME not expense
TIME to get recruits to try it.(weeks)
TIME to let it manifest in the recruits(a month)-(cambridge at this stage)
TIME to see if it creates antibodies/effects(a month)
TIME to see if there are long term side effects(many months)
(cambridge might fail and it has to all begin again)
(but if it passes all that time/tests)
TIME to then mass produce
that final point is the difference of if only Xmill can be made a week.. questioning who are those first Xmill that deserve it.
im thinking this question becomes
hospital workers on wards that are certain to come into contact with covid
followed by those friends/family near people who had it
followed by elderly most at risk of dying if they get covid but not near known infectees.
followed by others who want it
No offense but your comment is unresearched garbage, probably Asian news repeated poorly. I'm sorry all posts with Asians end this way, its nothing personal, don't cry racism its just that you need a free and functioning society to understand what is going on in the world and you don't have that anywhere in Asia. please shut up with the vaccine BS unless you can give some hint you at least know what you're talking about.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/
I don't know if you're serious about what you're saying here or just being satirical about it.
But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
I don't know if you're serious about what you're saying here or just being satirical about it.
But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
I don't know if you're serious about what you're saying here or just being satirical about it.
But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.
actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans
there is actual evidence in existance and test results
but it seems too many ignorant losers just beleive faux media like info wars/hotwire and other fake stuff that have no clue
diabetes does not cause pneumonia alone. but having covid which causes pneumonia and then gets into your blood causes even worse issues for people with diabeties by causing kidney failure aswell as the pneumonia
people with heart issues wont cope well when having pneumonia because the hypoxia causes people peoples heart rate to work harder and a damaged heart cant cope
its not people having a random heart attack for no reason and it just classified as covid. its actually having covid and their other complications not helping them cope/recover
atleast try better at doing research because these stupid scripts you ignorant people are spouting have been debunked and yet you lot seem to remain ignorant to not even realise that
people in hospitals have actual medical records, symptom lists, test results and scan results.
its not some magic story of sudden unexplained death where they just scribble a random cause
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.
That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.
Although there are some positive side to the Covid-19 but I also want to ask when this will stop properly?
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.
I really think that there is no way out of this pandemic situation until a complete and effective vaccine is in place for all of us. It's really scary to think that there is a second wave coming according to one of the Chinese officials which was interviewed just some weeks ago.
I think at least in the next year. Because every day a large number of people become infected and this number still growing. So the global economy will be hit hard by this long-term impact on it.
without lockdowns a country starting with 50 cases(imported) would hit their ICU bed capacity in 2 months
take USA. it has 20 icu beds per 100k populous (66kbeds for 330m pop)((before rampling up bed capacity in march))
using a r0 of 2.6
50, 130, 338, 879, 2285, 5941, 15446, 40159, 104414
this is why america locked down at the 4-6 week to bring the proceeding number of infections down to not hit the ~66k number by week 9
and it worked
but the down side is that the spread is only at ~33k a day = 10000 days for full spread.
even if you do a 5x multiple of asymptomatic people not tested thats still 2000 days for full population spread while keeping numbers of symptomatic at 30k a day.
yep years under current lockdown
..
but by relaxing the restrictions will increase the spread above an r0 of 1. which will speed up population spread, but will also mean more people get sick at same time causing more strain on hospital resources
for instance even just 1.1 would cause 30k daily numbers to be
30000, 33000, 36300, 39930, 43923, 48315, 53147, 58462, 64308, 70738
yep overflow in 2 and a half months. meaning another full lockdown in 2 months
this is why countries want the number do come down before relaxing.
say it was only 10k
10000, 11000, 12100, 13310
14641, 16105, 17716, 19487
21436, 23579, 25937, 28531
31384, 34523, 37975, 41772
45950, 50545, 55599, 61159
67275
which is ~5 months
so bring cases down initially by keeping full lockdown active will add another 3 months of freedom with relaxed restrictions so people can have over 4 months of relaxation instead of 2 months
the end goal is to try and 'track and trace' infecters and their infectees to try keeping number at or below 1
because at or below 1 means its not going to increase
yep no further lockdown if it can relax restriction but keep at or below 1
which requires people to stop touching random people/things. and if they are sick stay home. and tell everyone they come into contact with in previous week to stay home too.
but this r0 of 1 would take as i said before a couple years for full spread. meaning social distancing and contact tracing for 2 years
for example. sweden does contact tracing. and they are not at a r0 of 1 or lower.
they are 1.1-1.2
meaning the numbers will rise and a few of their relaxed rules will need to be tightened.
in short. dont expect to go to music concerts in the next couple years
I think at least in the next year. Because every day a large number of people become infected and this number still growing. So the global economy will be hit hard by this long-term impact on it. Now is the good times to participate in bounty campaigns, because we are all at home and everyone has nothing to do
in the 80's didn't Dr Fauci claim AIDS would kill a 1/3 of the planet. 2 billion people. And last month he said CV would kill 2 million americans.
It's not hard to figure out who the DR works for. Its not the people.
Youtube and Google search on "Dr. Judy Mikovits." She will tell you the beginning of the cure for HIV, and how Dr. Fauci fired her when she was going public with the cure.
It's not hard to figure out who the DR works for. Its not the people.
I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .
Youtube and Google search on "Dr. Judy Mikovits." She will tell you the beginning of the cure for HIV, and how Dr. Fauci fired her when she was going public with the cure.
I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .
Youtube and Google search on "Dr. Judy Mikovits." She will tell you the beginning of the cure for HIV, and how Dr. Fauci fired her when she was going public with the cure.
I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .
I may have stretched it out by saying its directly made to kill you but take my word for it , that is the goal. All vaccines have been disguised as something else and even the military has been involved with them. Why would the military be involved in things like this..
Here is vid saying this shot is meant to alter human behaviour, but disguised as a flu shot. Its again from source not some idiot.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/
Why would anyone think Bill Gates has your health in mind, everywhere where he went, death followed. Africa, India, he honed his craft in the third world and now he's ready for the West. If you look at Bill's family, they are litterly joined at the hip with the Rockefellers, who happen to be all about depopulation and wars.
but the whole reduce population by 15% is a mis-information. its a reduce population growth by 15%
EG for every 2 adults. in developed countries would have 2.4 kids in the 1990's . after the millenium its more like 2.2
the idea is that through vaccinations to make people live longer and less kids die at childhood. and family planning. is that parents just end up having less kids IN THE FIRST PLACE, bringing it down to an average world total 2 kids per parent
its not about killing kids. its about making parents realise there is no need to birth 10-18 kids, where as 2 is fine.
its about slowing the exponential growth
heres a funny thing i noticed
UK government advertised the NHS is now able to cope and ok to perform normal treatments. and the one they mentioned.. fertility treatment to get the country to start making babies again for parents that usually cant
which goes to show its not about a genocide government plot. its about letting people become parents. but not to the extremes of having loads of kids
Here is vid saying this shot is meant to alter human behaviour, but disguised as a flu shot. Its again from source not some idiot.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/
Why would anyone think Bill Gates has your health in mind, everywhere where he went, death followed. Africa, India, he honed his craft in the third world and now he's ready for the West. If you look at Bill's family, they are litterly joined at the hip with the Rockefellers, who happen to be all about depopulation and wars.
Franky I'm just following the evidence.
If a western independent lab in the US or Canada without ties to the WHO or CDC isolate the virus I'm happy to believe it. The fact is that hasn't happened, so we ask where it stops and it stops at using a method that doesn't accurately prove anything. Sort of like measuring the distance between planets using walmart telescopes.
Here is another excellent clip 3 mins long.. it should be in its own post to wake up the Asians here who are sleeping and in line for a vaccination..
Bill gates wants to remove 1,000,0000,000 people from the planet using vaccination.
1 BILLION.. that's a thousand millions for your ethereum idiots.
If a western independent lab in the US or Canada without ties to the WHO or CDC isolate the virus I'm happy to believe it. The fact is that hasn't happened, so we ask where it stops and it stops at using a method that doesn't accurately prove anything. Sort of like measuring the distance between planets using walmart telescopes.
Here is another excellent clip 3 mins long.. it should be in its own post to wake up the Asians here who are sleeping and in line for a vaccination..
Bill gates wants to remove 1,000,0000,000 people from the planet using vaccination.
1 BILLION.. that's a thousand millions for your ethereum idiots.
but the whole reduce population by 15% is a mis-information. its a reduce population growth by 15%
EG for every 2 adults. in developed countries would have 2.4 kids in the 1990's . after the millenium its more like 2.2
the idea is that through vaccinations to make people live longer and less kids die at childhood. and family planning. is that parents just end up having less kids IN THE FIRST PLACE, bringing it down to an average world total 2 kids per parent
its not about killing kids. its about making parents realise there is no need to birth 10-18 kids, where as 2 is fine.
its about slowing the exponential growth
heres a funny thing i noticed
UK government advertised the NHS is now able to cope and ok to perform normal treatments. and the one they mentioned.. fertility treatment to get the country to start making babies again for parents that usually cant
which goes to show its not about a genocide government plot. its about letting people become parents. but not to the extremes of having loads of kids
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
badecker enjoys thinking covid is the same as/less than previous years flu deaths
but its already passed flu death numbers and yet since february to May is only 3 months(9 to go)
the lockdown prevented far more death than would have happened without lockdown.
yet covid has already surpassed previous YEAR of influenza/pneumonia.. and yet its only May
so imagine the numbers by december with current restrictions.. yep even higher than now
then imagine the numbers by december without there ever being a lockdown. far far far far higher
but hey badacker will be an idiot and remain an idiot.
but atleast he now quotes the full year influenza/pneumonia numbers, so now cant pretend that people died last year in larger numbers than this year.
just hope he does flip flip or declare amnesia
The statistics people are having fun showing us that the so-called Covid-19 is barely more than flue or pneumonia.
F-1 enjoys parading his ignorance by accepting virus non-sequencing (what the Chinese did, and what we are basing our tests on) as sequencing.
Why does F-1 enjoy this? Because he is trying to show that there isn't any CV, without getting caught at it by his friends and peers.
Thanks, franky1. We need all the help we can get to show folks the CV errors that are being foisted on us.
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