Topic: When Will This War End? - page 4. (Read 802 times)

I am not sure whether these things are true about Putin dying of cancer, he looks strong on the outside and does not seems to have any weakness like a patient dying of a deadly disease. The war will only end if the ego of Putin is settled, if not he will continue the rage.

This shows the weakness of the intelligence of Russia. If they really knew that there would be a harsh resistance, i am sure they would not have attempted this in the first place, now they have humiliated, i doubt Putin will call this off, just like that.

Oh come on, do not tell me you are still believing "bringing democracy" is a real thing in the USA  right? They do not do that, they never wanted to do that. Even if they had no intentions of doing anything or profiting in Afghanistan (what could you take from them, not like Iraq and oil) they still do wars because they need to spend that 700 billion on military somewhere otherwise why are they even spending so much?

What doesn't belong to them means that they will not stop until they have it, and yes you may not like that but it took them about 10 minutes to take those places, and weeks and yet not able to take Kyiv. Which is proof that Ukraine sort of cared about one, and not so much about the other.

yes, the information I got at first was like that. the invasion that occurred because of the presence of the Nato in Ukraine, Ukraine became a member of the Nato. This creates an imbalance in Russia and becomes a threat to the Russian state. as you said war became one of the legitimate means of mass murder, but this is a great fear for mankind.

everyone doesn't want war, it's very hard to say this war will end just like that. Russia's invasion of Ukraine was caused by factors that became strong reasons that Russia needed to protect its own country. The existence of NATO is a threat to Russia. Since ukraine being a neutral country is not part of nato, maybe the war will end soon. but as ordinary people we don't know another compelling reason for war to occur.

You are confusing the purpose of these operations. The United States had an attempt to build democratic power there (although I initially considered this a useless undertaking). Russia's goal is the destruction of independent Ukraine, the seizure of territories and attempts to "build a new empire of the USSR-2." Therefore, the former can simply take and curtail the project, the latter will try to achieve their goals.


"All Russia has to do is take the two pieces of land they occupied and wanted to do that to begin with, and leave the rest, put all soldiers there, and do not attack anyone.".. Hmm... You probably don't you completely understand what is happening here... Once again - the goals of Russia are the DESTRUCTION of Ukraine as an independent state. This is the first. Second, your offer to give them something that doesn't belong to them sounds strange to say the least.
Let's simulate the situation in relation to you? Bandits break into your house, they begin to rape your mother, beat your father to death, steal your cars, break all the furniture and take out everything of value from your house. They tell you that you should sit and be silent, now they will finish, shoot your relatives and leave. You will sit quietly and wait for them to satisfy their desires, so it turns out? Just don't disturb them and it will be over soon???

I beg to differ on the first point, and I'd point to the Vietnam war as an example of a war that was neither won nor lost.  The United States knew they had to get out of the situation they'd created for themselves without showing weakness, because they knew they'd never win it and US citizens (a lot of them, anyway) didn't know why it had even been started in the first place.  I guess you could say N. Vietnam won, but that isn't exactly true--the US just withdrew its forces.

Putin doesn't have to win or lose this thing with Ukraine; he could just pull back.  I'm sure he'd have to find a reason that would allow him to save face and not look like a failure, but he could do it.  So this isn't an all-or-nothing, win-or-lose situation for him.  It might seem that way in his own head, but it doesn't have to be that way--and I'm hoping he comes to his senses and does the right thing for Ukraine and for his own people, who are suffering under the sanctions imposed by the various countries that have had enough balls to stand up to him.

I read your post after making mine, and it's nice to see someone else sees that point (and props for thinking of an example that didn't come to mind).  I don't know what the hell we were doing in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Grenada for that matter, but the US probably has many more examples of "wars" that were never won or lost.

Now both countries didn’t attack each other.I hope they will be mutual by the end of this year.I hope take time to end This war.Russia and Ukraine when Both country’s war will be end i hope Cryptocurrency pricie will be more increase then.

It is hardly worth reproaching Ukrainian President Zelensky for not wanting to capitulate to Russia. So far, Putin does not agree to any conditions for ending the war, except for the surrender of Ukraine and the seizure of another part of the territory of Ukraine, except for the one that Russia has already occupied in Ukraine. And the people of Ukraine will not make territorial concessions. Most likely, Zelensky himself will be removed from the presidency if he decides to do this, and he understands this very well. In addition, a few days ago, the delegation of Ukraine in Turkey handed over to the representatives of Russia its terms of the peace agreement, which were already ambiguously perceived by the Ukrainians. However, there is no official response from Russia on them yet.
I think that this war will end at the end of the year. This will happen when Putin and his entourage realize that they have lost this war, or riots will begin in Russia due to a sharp deterioration in living conditions, or Ukraine will inflict an even greater defeat on the Russian occupiers, or Putin himself will die of his illness or he will be killed by his own. Already in May it will be possible to speak more realistically about the outcome of this war. But in any case, it is already obvious that Russia lost this war unleashed by them.

It is very difficult to predict when the war will end, because the wounds that are scratched due to war are very difficult to forget, even though Russia provides facilities like before to Ukraine, but they will still hold grudges, all facilities can be given but the lives that have been lost cannot be recovered. return, I can't predict when the war will end, it will definitely take years.

I agree with you. Only Ukraine can stop this war because Russia will never stop this war without completely destroying Ukraine. And experience from previous wars shows that Germany, a country that was just emerged from World War I, had not won the war with the then superpowers Britain, France, and America.

Countless lives were lost, and Germany was economically devastated.  And then if we look at World War II, Russia, America, and Britain once again caused terrible defeats to Germany and Italy that left their economies completely crippled. And the war ended with the defeat of Germany and Hitler's suicide.

War is not a battery-powered toy that it's being switched off will stop the war. Since Ukraine does not have the power to deal with Russia and didn't have the possibility to get help from other countries so the war is likely to end when Ukraine declares defeat.

This is a tough question. To me, it was obvious from the beginning of March that the active phase of the war will take months, and then there can be localized war situations (after all, we've technically had a war for 8 years in Eastern Ukraine). I still hope that it's months we're talking about, not years, at least in terms of air strikes, blockades, heavy fighting and abundant war crimes of Russian soldiers. That is, if Russia doesn't do something very stupid like hit Lithuania or Poland with air strikes, bringing NATO forces into the war. If that happens, I believe it'll be a WW3 situation, but probably with a way lower death toll and a way shorter time span. Russian army can't properly fight against a much smaller Ukrainian army, but they're no match for NATO forces and can be utterly crushed by NATO very fast.
What can be done to stop the war is the following: give Ukraine what it asks for: fighter jets, tanks, long-range artillery, missile systems. This will help Ukraine free its territories from Russians much faster, finishing the blockade of Mariupol and other cities which are in dire conditions.
Another thing is cutting all economic ties with Russia. The war needs money, a lot of it. So if Russia runs out of money, it won't be able to continue it properly. Seizing all governmental and oligarch assets, freezing their bank accounts, imposing a gas and oil embargo are actions that could speed up the process a lot.
Ukraine doesn't want to conquer Russia, we've already despised imperialist ideas. Ukraine only wants to be free to choose its own path, to have its sovereignty not questioned. Moreover, Ukraine is even ready to talk about employing careful approaches with Crimea and those areas of Donbas that weren't under Ukrainian control for 8 years.
Needless to say, Putin will have to go to a tribunal, and so will many war criminals of this war. Then Russia will have to pay enormous reparations for all the damage it brought to our land. Then Ukraine and Russia can stay neutral neighbors. Not friendly, this won't be possible for decades to come because of what Russia has done to us. But neutral.

Unfortunately, the only thing that we normal individuals can do is to support small movements done by various groups even outside social media. If there are any opportunities to boycott a certain product, then the littlest thing can impact the most.


Even if we do come up with useful suggestions, what power do we have as normal individuals do? The war is in the hands of Russian forces pushing their way towards Ukraine, with Putin being a "war criminal" disregarding the Articles of War and committing human rights abuses. Hopefully that the appropriate economic sanctions would at least mitigate the damage done to Ukraine.

It will end when Putin's government either decides to stop his war for him and gives the signal to retreat, or they settle with Ukraine somehow. Putin is not going to admit to a defeat and is not going to give an order himself, he's too stubborn. There's always a chance he'll die before the war ends because there had been rumors that he's got cancer.
One thing is certain, Ukrainians won't give up and they're going to get even more weapons from the West including tanks. I also don't see how a war could last another 6 months because Russians will run out of soldiers, fuel and food long before that.

Until now i have seen many wars that have not stopped and it is very difficult to make warring countries immediately make peace because the political and economic aspects have been mixed up in a war.  Besides that, the war also benefits countries that are not involved in the conflict ^{(although it's not always like this)}, so it is very difficult to stop it when there are still many people who control it.

We don't really know who is in control of this war because if this continues and there is no bright spot not only Russia and Ukraine will be affected but also the global economy will become unstable,
it would be bad for sure for the world and hope there will be good news about this war to end it,
the most important thing is to keep up with developments about this war

They are making negotiations casually about ending the war but innocent people are dying every day. It does not bother Putin and Zelensky as long as both still have their own lives. And their families are safe, every other person can fry. Selfishness and pride is in both leaders. We see NATO aiding Ukraine and sending troops and equipments to them to execute and battle Russia instead of finding a peaceful way to end the war. This is wickedness. It is the second month of the war and it does not look like it is ending now.

It "sort of" is like that. I mean obviously it doesn't stop that way, but just look at what the USA did in Afghanistan, they didn't maybe push a button and suddenly stopped, but they just ... left and that was it. Same could happen to Russia and Ukraine war.

All Russia has to do is take the two pieces of land they occupied and wanted to do that to begin with, and leave the rest, put all soldiers there, and do not attack anyone. If they do that, I am 99% sure that along with crimea, they will be given those two new lands, and nobody will attack them and they won't attack anyone and the world will go on like nothing happened. There will be hatred there, but the war will end.

We don't need another war to end this current war in Ukraine both countries should sort themselves out and make peace, it isn't that hard time achieve. Russia wants an assurance, Ukraine should give it to them and the war ends. The good thing is that neither the USA (and other NATO countries) have interfered yet probably that's why the war hasn't gone out of hands.

I understand Ukraine would be seen as weak by surrounding but it's better than keep resisting when you know those who you thought will come to your aid aren't coming and the Russia aren't getting tired of the attacks anytime soon. I believe Ukrainians soldiers are just defending without attacking and that's a losing strategy as it give Russia all the time to reinforce and keep attacking.

I agree with this view, both want the war to stop as soon as possible because it is clearly not in the interest of either side. I think there's a third person who really doesn't want this war to end anytime soon. The deeper the two became involved in the war, the more rapid and irreparable the economic fallout became. So they find ways to prolong this war that can kill Russia and Ukraine is just a pawn on the world chessboard.

both have their own reasons for defending their position, so that if one of them has not got what he wants, it seems that this war cannot end. on the other hand, the presence of intermediary countries to bring together the two countries in the diplomatic route will be very important, so that later an agreement is reached which is witnessed by other countries. If this continues, it is possible that the allied countries will interfere and the war will spread. What is expected is that diplomacy takes precedence