Topic: When Will This War End? - page 5. (Read 778 times)

Stop the war? Do you think war is like a washing machine - you press the button, it erases, you press it again - it stops?
You can either win or lose a war! War is a disease, and disease can be either cured or lost to disease.
Accordingly, in this case, Ukraine must end the war, inflicting losses on Russia that Russia cannot bear. It will not be able to endure in terms of the destruction of army structures / units, the economy, the social situation in the country. When will it happen? It's hard to say, Ukraine is disproportionately smaller than Russia, so we need help from other countries, at least in arms, ammunition, economic and political pressure on the aggressor country. Therefore, the end of the war is a complex process, depending on many world players and their desire to participate in these processes!

Looks like you should see the news on this one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Russia%E2%80%93Ukraine_peace_negotiations

There is a lot of other information you can see about Ukraine and Russia today.

They want to end the war and make peace, there is no need to worry anymore, everything will end well and peacefully.

Mr Putin in a statement with the french president Mr Macron has made it clear that Ukraine shelling will only end when the Mariupol lay down their amours and surrenders. i am scared this might be a gate way to world war iii. Plans on evacuating civilians from the city is still in progress and so far lots of lives has been wasted through this inhumanity by the Russian leaders

I guess, Russian president Putin is fully ready to give peace a chance because his last interviewed show, he is not happy the way the war is eliminating people and their properties in the country. Ukraine and Russian will not reject peace this time around because this war has caused many damages to their economy and to other countries too which other countries are fully prepared to end the war soon. Putin is ready to embrace peace because the suspension they got from sports, import and export has made them to decide to embrace peace with Ukraine, so that it will not cause more damages to their citizens and their economy.

Russia has not declared a ceasefire since its attack on Ukraine more than a month ago. Putin expected to capture Ukraine in three or four days, but he miscalculated and underestimated the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the desire of Ukrainians to defend their freedom and independence. The war will continue until Putin and his entourage realize that they have lost this war and make concessions acceptable to Ukraine.
During the first month of the war, Russia has already lost about 40 percent of its military potential. They realized that they could not capture Kyiv and announced the withdrawal of their troops from this direction as a sign of goodwill to reach future agreements in negotiations with Ukraine. In fact, Russia is forced to withdraw its fairly battered military units from near Kyiv to regroup and restore combat capability, otherwise they could be defeated within a week.
The situation in this war is increasingly unfavorable against Russia.

They "could be" lost forever as well. Put some bitcoin into some digital driver, and then during the war it will get bombed to pieces and then it's gone forever. Sure its "there" in the technological sense but it is out of reach for anyone. Same goes for the 1 million that satoshi got, he doesn't touch it which means that it is probably forever gone.

Digital stuff could be gone forever as well, but depends on how you approach it, they are not gone out of existence, they are there and that means we could have someone hacking into them one day when the technology is high enough, but for the time being there are some that look like they are forever gone.

Regarding the war ongoing between Russia and Ukraine, since there is a country like China and some other countries taking benefits from the war, I don't think the war is going to be over anytime soon. Even after many other countries tried to stop the war but putting Russia under pressure by put them under economic sanctions but China is keep dealing and trading with them so even if Russia cannot provide the products needed for their country they have a greater supplier like China where can trade anything with them, I think there could be a chance if China stops doing any economic deals with them.

Yes, it can be said that the control of this war is in Putin's own hands and if we look at Putin how his nature looks like he will not just give up,
it's true that humanity should be much more important especially the Ukrainian civilians who are the most affected and victims,
I hope there is a miracle and there is a bright spot to end this war

I think there will be no reason for Putin to throw a white flag, if he withdraws his troops and ends the war now America and the West will not lift the sanctions, they will even continue to attack Russia because they think that Russia is not as strong as they think.

This war will end if the US and Europe stop imposing stupid sanctions on Russia and they should stop funding arms to Ukraine, they only make the fight more intense.

^^ It's understandable that it's only Putin that can design when to stop the war. But so far he has no sign of throwing the white flag as he doesn't want to lose in this fight.

So this war is going to drag for months or even years, until Putin give up. I don't think that the US will lift the sanctions against them. The only problem is that human casualties in both camps, Russians and Ukrainians specially civilians.

only Putin can stop this war. and maybe if the world leaders unite and do something an ultimatum to russia. maybe, putin will change his mind. but for now, it seems neighbouring countries are weighing what are the next actions of putin. at the end of the day, only these 2 leaders will resolve their conflict and come to a peaceful resolution. and we are all hoping that soon enough they will come to that point.

I agree with you on this, for those of us who believe in God and the power of prayers, we need to go down on our knees and pray. The killings and destruction of equipment are much, this war has to be stopped.

Only physical investments are lost such as real estate but digital investments like stocks and cryptos didn't lost permanently. Their prices are affected by the war but they can recover soon as long as we won't sold them. Putin is the one that can end this war because his also the one that started this. The opposite side are only waiting for him to surrender or to say cease fire. What can we do to stop the war? Nothing other than praying.

We can't join there and stop Russians directly because it's too dangerous but a prayer is powerful and can be done in the comfort of our homes. Killings doesn't stop everyday even if this war have come to an end.

Remember, giving up does not mean losing. And as a head of state who cares about people's safety, which is the only goal to save human life, it's better to raise your hands and let things go without a single life being lost. Not all heroes have to win in plain sight. That is what Zelensky must now do for the common good. The great power of Russia was recognized by the world and it had to be considered when the drums of war were struck by Zelensky and then ordered his people to take up arms. It's better to end it and keep one life even if it means sacrificing oneself to burn. Isn't that the definition of an unsung hero being the only thing a leader should do?

I watch too many superheroes!

It could last years, but with the reporting of the Russian army being short on resources along with Putin perhaps turning senile, this could be a short war.

It ends in three ways:

1.) Zelenskky concedes to Putin's demands (neutrality, refusal to join NATO, give up pro-Russian territories)
2.) Putin uses nuclear weapons and overtakes Ukrainian government
3.) Putin withdraws without Ukrainian defeat.

#3 is unlikely. Putin is far too invested in the war to turn around now. The Russian economy is sunk, and accepting defeat would be even more humiliating for Putin than the humiliation he currently faces with an underequipped Ukrainian army successfully countering Russian troops to the degree that we're seeing. Options #1 to me seems more likely. If Zelenskky can accept Putin's terms, perhaps both countries can walk away in one piece. But part of the demands Putin is seeking is that Ukraine cannot arm themselves militarily. If you've seen what happens to leaders when they give up their military defense systems, look no further than Gaddafi and the invasion of Libya. It isn't clear to me when Zelenskky might concede, if ever, but that portion of the deal would be something that I'm sure he's reluctant about. Nuclear weapons are a last resort, but I would not put it past Putin to use tactical nukes out of desperation.

No you really perhaps didn't get my point that I am saying. I meant that Ukraine is able to fight back and harder because they are getting more military facilities to fight the Russian Army and this make the Russian to also have casualties. The war is turning into more dangerous problem for the world if not taken care.

Well one thing I know is that we shouldn't tackle war with another war, war has all the abilities to wipe out the entire world especially war between too nuclear power houses.

I think the dialogue hasn't been done properly, I think personal interest should be sacrificed for the peace of the world, Russia and Ukraine are super close neighbors, and definitely has what each other want from their closeness. I think if an agreement can be reached based on the interest of both countries it would be helpful in ending the war.

 Buying gas with ruble is not the solution. However, looking at the ruble situation they have found a way to get it back to normal prices as well. So I do assume that they know what they are doing. The funny thing is, if west can't sanction off Russia and create a big problem for them, then why would Russia stop the Ukraine attack ever? The idea was that Russia would economically go to hell and they would stop and beg for the sanctions to be lifted, but they are doing fine. So Ukraine is in big trouble right now, they can't expect much from rest of the world anymore, they just have to face Russia off on the streets and hope that they will stop for some other reason.

You may be right here too because Russia made a law that Putin signed that countries buying their gas will have to pay in Russia currency, ruble. I think the Russian gas is very strategic for the EU especially Germany and this law is meant to strengthen the ruble against the fall that it has experienced since the war because of the sanctions on their banks.

It's hard to predict when the war between Russia and Ukraine will stop unless we can read Putin's mind. even the president of ukraine has several times proposed peace mediation to putin but always rejected by him. What I'm worried about is that more and more countries will eventually lift their sanctions on Russia because their oil and gas is scarce. Victims of the economic impact that will occur will explode.