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Having a addiction is not really bad but it based on the kind of addiction you have whether is a positive or negative addiction. Having a gambling addiction can also be said as positive if there is an achievement it brings to a person. Just like sports gambling, a lot of persons has become very rich with it making them popular. Although the beginning might be tedious be once mastery is gained, then more money can be achieved.

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

That depends on your definition of many, it is true that those that are addicted to gambling gamble a lot which means that a few of them could have gotten lucky even when the odds were against them and they made a fortune, the problem with this is that such luck will eventually run out and they will lose all of that money, and this has the added risk that they could become even more addicted to gambling as they will remember the time they had so much money and they will want to recover it only to lose even more money in the process.

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Most western countries and cities have either groups of support for gamblers and other addictions to share and encourage each other to resits. I think this is different from alcoholism and that most people could benefit from a more specialised psychological support to find out what is triggering their gambling beyond their control zone. However, many people that gamble do not have the resources to get into this specialised treatments and have to do with help from the church groups or others.

They say "the worst thing that can happen to an addict to gambling is winning".

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Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

only a few people can get rich from gambling, one of which is for those who have complete control in playing so they can decide when to stop after getting a big win. and for those who are never satisfied with the wins they get, chances are they can turn things around because they are stuck in the same circle so they always try to make big profits but on the contrary, it's because they already have a very great addiction
as you said a gambler can get rich because the winnings he earns are partly used as investment assets or turned into capital to build a real business

Never forget that Luck is the main factor on why these gamblers do become rich and able to sustain themselves into this industry for a long time and this is where some addicted gamblers do target most.

Being sustainable and profitable in gambling on while they do play without even realizing that they are being consumed by addiction and getting wrecked slowly.They would only realize when its too late.

When it comes to addiction problem then no one can help you out but rather yourself on realizing on things that you had done but of course it would be needing that strong self control and will
for you to succeed on avoiding or solving it.

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Quote from: molsewid on June 28, 2021, 12:15:58 PM

Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

only a few people can get rich from gambling, one of which is for those who have complete control in playing so they can decide when to stop after getting a big win. and for those who are never satisfied with the wins they get, chances are they can turn things around because they are stuck in the same circle so they always try to make big profits but on the contrary, it's because they already have a very great addiction
as you said a gambler can get rich because the winnings he earns are partly used as investment assets or turned into capital to build a real business

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Quote from: AicecreaME on June 23, 2021, 07:36:33 AM

~ No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.

~ Maybe only one option out of many is suitable, and that's why it's hard to find it right away, but with enough tries the right solution will be found eventually.

theres many option to fix gambling addiction .
there are browsers extensions and softwaresto install to prevent you from accesing the online casino and there are self exclusion service within the site itself but the best fix is when you seek for a professional because they have the right tools , space and medicines to help you with your disease . they are not hard not hard to find because we have internet and we can easily search them up online

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I have been a part of Betsson team for a while and can truly say that this is the team that not only cares about the players deposit/withdraws but also cares on their addiction problems. There are numerous organizations that help gambling addicts, I want to share ones (from Betsson) that weren't included in this thread via OP or other users:

1. GA Gamblers Anonymous

2. Gordonhouse (Analogue)

3. Stödlinjen <-- If you are from Sweden

I'll create a thread and will talk more about these and additional resources, I think a similar thread should be pinned there.

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Internet has a lot to offer, just type Rehabilitation and most that will appear can cater any form of addiction, it's not like they're built just to rehabilitate drug addicts.

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Quote from: molsewid on June 28, 2021, 12:15:58 PM

Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

What I know, most gambling addicts who make it rich because playing professionally can control themselves in playing and play with discipline.
Many people get rich from gambling and they turn their gambling profits into real business or investment because they think they will not gamble forever, unlike those who play who can't control themselves from rich to poor and all depends on them being a smart gambler and also mature.

It is not easy to have discipline and control, especially for the addicted to gambling, because they can lose control anytime without they know.
If they can get rich from gambling but can not use that money for their life instead of searching for more winning, they will not have a chance to enjoy their winning.
Once they become addicted to gambling, it will not be easy to cure and if they do not go to the right person, they can ruin their lives, especially if they still play gambling.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

I agree to this.

Most of them will definitely end up being poor again, because they will go happy go lucky every time they play gambling because their mindset says that as long as they play gambling, they will make more profits in the long run, but everything could escalate quickly if they are not going to be wise on spending the money they won from gambling.

Sadly, aside from gambling, they can't think of anything where they should spend their money, like for example investing it on cryptocurrency or real estate, they will just continue to bet it 'till they get empty-handed again.

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Quote from: Fatunad on June 26, 2021, 04:42:43 PM

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This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.

You cant really blame out people on having that kind of impression on where they do really look negatively with gambling due to the effects that it could possibly give out on someone when they are attached with addiction which is actually true but it would all vary on how someone will be treating gambling
and how they do deal with it up with because not all that do play does automatically be considered as an addicted one.There are people whom do play just for the sake of entertainment but people are naturally being judgemental when it comes to this situation which i cant really blame them off.

I get your point but to automatically assume that someone is addicted to gambling just because they gamble once in a while is just wrong, quite honestly we can find a lot more people that area addicted to video games and social media on the streets and I am sure it would not be even close, for every addicted gambler I think we could find 100 people addicted to social media and yet people do not think of them as addicted even if they obviously are.

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Quote from: molsewid on June 28, 2021, 12:15:58 PM

Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

yeah right, if that gamblers explores more possibilities and not just relying with his gambling capabilities, the very chance that he can managed to survive and established his wealth,

It's difficult to find the right system and attitude for anyone to continuously earned from gambling industry, by chance, only few can do that.

But, if you are good enough in working with your opportunities, avoiding to become addicted and using this venue as ladder for better lifestyle is very possible to happened to anyone.

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Quote from: molsewid on June 28, 2021, 12:15:58 PM

Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

What I know, most gambling addicts who make it rich because playing professionally can control themselves in playing and play with discipline.
Many people get rich from gambling and they turn their gambling profits into real business or investment because they think they will not gamble forever, unlike those who play who can't control themselves from rich to poor and all depends on them being a smart gambler and also mature.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 22, 2021, 07:21:45 PM

It's true that many gambling addicts have become rich from gambling but will it last long?

most of them will only fall back into poverty because of their lack of control over themselves so they think that the money they win must be played back so that more and more. this is the reason why gambling addiction will never produce anything.

Actually gambling can produce anything and it made some gamblers become rich. Well there are some gamblers that become rich and maintained their wealth but many have had fall into trap and fall back to where they started. But I guess I would only believe that a gambler could maintain his wealth if he invested his money in real business or invest it in any kind of investment but if until now he would only rely on his ability and skills on winning in gambling then I'm afraid that his wealth will going to last long in his hand.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on June 23, 2021, 07:36:33 AM

~ No matter how small your progress is on quitting your gambling addiction, keep it up, it's still better than doing nothing about it.

I agree. Sometimes even the help from the best possible professional may look ineffective, but a gambling addict taking that help and struggling with his/her addiction with all their might should be proud of themselves because they are on the right road. Maybe only one option out of many is suitable, and that's why it's hard to find it right away, but with enough tries the right solution will be found eventually.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 26, 2021, 04:39:50 PM

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everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.

This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.

You cant really blame out people on having that kind of impression on where they do really look negatively with gambling due to the effects that it could possibly give out on someone when they are attached with addiction which is actually true but it would all vary on how someone will be treating gambling
and how they do deal with it up with because not all that do play does automatically be considered as an addicted one.There are people whom do play just for the sake of entertainment but people are naturally being judgemental when it comes to this situation which i cant really blame them off.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on June 23, 2021, 04:41:44 PM

Quote from: hahay on June 23, 2021, 07:41:15 AM

everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

I never had a big trouble with gambling and I did tried to hide a few of my psychological problems back in college (long time ago) but I have to say gambling is different than other addictions. If you are addicted to drugs or addicted to smoking or addicted to alcohol, all of these you can hide because it is neither THAT expensive (could become very expensive eventually but not if you let it) but gambling addiction only becomes a bad thing when you are financially ruined, otherwise it is literally entertainment.

Spending 100 bucks on movies per month versus spending 100 bucks on gambling is literally the same thing, who cares at that point? But if you are financially ruined then you have a big addiction, and having a financial trouble is not something you can hide, you literally lose everything you have and that is why it is not something you can hide.

This is one of my issues with some people, since they think badly of gambling and of anyone that does it if you spend a certain amount of money each month on the activity suddenly they think you are addicted, but when you point out they spend more money on whatever they find pleasurable, like drinking coffee, tobacco, apps or video games suddenly I am a bad person for pointing this out and I am deflecting the issue, as long as someone can enjoy their gambling and you do not lose control of your finances then you are fine and you can keep gambling.

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Well, everyone has a concern for the people closest to them and that can be a strong impetus for them to provide input and advice about gambling addiction. But the problem is, when a gambling addict can still control his life so well that it doesn't appear that he is a gambling addict, then how can the people closest to him help. So in this case it is those gambling addicts who have really ruined their own lives and even for those around them, if that were the case surely there would be many people who would care for him to help get out of the gambling addiction that has ruined his life.

The closest people around the gambler can know if something different happens to that person because they are bond with a relationship that we can not know, and only they will know about that. But yes, if the addicted gambler doesn't realize that something wrong already happened to them, they will not ask for help about their problem. The closest people will make sure that they will help many things for that addicted person to gambling if they see that that addicted person start ruined his life.

Yes like that, everyone has their own way of being able to control the situation in their life to look good, so even if the people closest to them know something different but he still looks good in the end they will still act normal. Therefore, they or those closest to them will definitely act when the chaos is clearly seen. It's different when the addict can share his story immediately even though it hasn't caused a mess because after all, anticipating would be better but unfortunately, not many gamblers can share their bad stories in gambling immediately.

It is not easy for the addict to admit or share his story about addiction to gambling to other people because that can make those people will angry to them, how it could happen to them. But if the addicted can share the story with their closest people, that will help them get the way out of the problem, which will not take too long for those people to solve the problem. Even if that gambler is smart to hide his addiction, that will not happen forever because someday, he will tell/share/show about gambling to others to see that he is really addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on June 24, 2021, 03:44:03 AM

here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab

You don't blame addiction of people to the government. It's your personal matter and you should be the one to find out the answer and how you'll get rid of it.

It doesn't matter if you're rich or not.

You're not rich then you gamble, you must be responsible of yourself and look to your financial situation.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on June 24, 2021, 03:44:03 AM

Quote from: rodskee on June 22, 2021, 07:26:16 AM

There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.

your city is very lucky to have a program like this
if it continues to grow, definitely very helpful for those who are addicted but have no money

This is a rare occasion when groups are forming just to focus for gamblers , though maybe their group is composed of former
gamblers or even friends or family of addicted gamblers that wanted to help others out.

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here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab

Of course because the government is gaining from gambling addiction and their tandem with gambling operators/owners lol.

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Quote from: rodskee on June 22, 2021, 07:26:16 AM

There is a certain group in our City that has this movement now to Help addicted gamblers, to have rehabilitation or at least counselling .
so far there are 6 patients/clients already that voluntarily gives their own for the treatment .
we are looking for more volunteer because the local government already pledge assistance if we will be needing specially financially though we are a Non Government Organization and there are concern companies and individuals that lending their hands for the project and so far so good.

your city is very lucky to have a program like this
if it continues to grow, definitely very helpful for those who are addicted but have no money

here in my country right now it is very difficult to find a place to get rid of addiction because of the lack of funding from the government
only addicts who have money can go to a psychiatrist or rehab

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