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Quote from: Fredomago on July 21, 2021, 11:21:02 AM

Quote from: boyptc on July 21, 2021, 10:07:25 AM

Yes.

The actual process might be complicated for them but it will be granted if they accept those help. And the money that will be used will be worth it as it will help them mentally.

yeah right, everything for a cause will have the value in changing them and helping them to survive this problem, Even it cause them a lot what matters most is the will to cure them and help them in anyhow.

People who are suffering with gambling addiction, aside from the own will inside them they also needs helps coming from the expert as there's already malfunctions inside their minds and the balance is already in need to adjust to bring it back to the original cycles where specialist is the one who can do it for them.

It's the best help because they'll also be helped by their families.

With the help of those people, that's going to make them go with the process and will eventually beat addiction as that's the last resort that one can do.

But if still that doesn't help, time to think of another way of getting rid of it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on July 21, 2021, 06:09:53 AM

Although I'd read a good article on the matter(can you recommend one?) I doubt I could say something valuable in this regard even after reading it.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730661/

Same with me, the long text sometimes makes us feel confused to learn and understand it easily. However, commonly I will try to check per point deeply and read skimming of the most parts. Cheesy

Quote from: arwin100 on July 21, 2021, 06:17:48 AM

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We may not blame this pandemic, but for sure, pandemic becomes one of the reasons also why the gambling activities are increasing during this pandemic.
There is also a reason because many people are commonly being bored easily during the lockdown. We know that many Companie or institutions do WFH so that it will also turn people to be bored. And moreover, every day we are connecting to the gadget and internet. Maybe this pandemic is not the most reasonable, but it becomes one of the triggers. Although of course once more, it will also depend on each person. Least, I also agree with your opinion.

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Seek help from a psychological expert if you're having concerns with an addiction of gambling, this is not a joke and it really affected our mentality. Family member is your most important person to tap at, they're the one who can understand you specially this time when you're struggling to overcome gambling addiction. Don't bring money with you in cash form, and avoid instances that you can access sites related to gambling. Ask from someone who can help you stay away from gambling, like sports engagement and with other entertaining stuffs like music or singing.

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Quote from: geegaw on July 21, 2021, 12:44:39 PM

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Quote from: swogerino on July 21, 2021, 02:24:47 AM

I think what made the situation worse is the pandemic,many people lost their jobs or a certain part of their salary and they were locked at home for some months during 2020 and this is exactly where online gambling saw a big increase in their user base.Most probably these desperate persons were trying to find a way out and they thought to give gambling a try,this made their situations worse as in gambling we all know we will lose much more than we can win and I think this is exactly where addicts are created in big numbers.It is good that the measures for the pandemic have eased a lot since then and people can start their recovery by returning back to their everyday life.

We cannot blame the pandemic about this issues since if we are in our proper mind to think to much on such things we can avoid to gamble more then came to the point that we been hooked up to the game. Although there are some instance that pandemic really contribute since many casino advertisement popping out but if we know how to control our selves we this gambling things will not hurt us totally. Now since we are slowly progressing maybe its good for addicted gamblers to avoid playing to much so that they will not suffer more financial damage to theirselves.

Agreed, in a time of pandemic perhaps more advertising about gambling or more precisely, people have more time to pay attention to these information patterns but deciding to participate is also a very strong personal responsibility, a failure from here on it is better not to blame gambling but to reconsider your own maturity. The rationale for recent addictions probably arises from our having too much useless time, to avoid the emotions of gambling, to make the most of our time more productively and productively for our lives and families.

People are mostly spending up their time online which they would really be that prone into those advertisement which might really be poking up the gambler mind that they do have inside.

This is actually depending on self personal control and not all would really be good at that and this is why they do get easily hooked up if interest will really spark out.

Addiction? Its a common phase and you are the ones who do hold your fate and if you don't have control then you do know on whats next.

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In my country there are rehabilitation houses for people who suffer from addictions, they are places that give treatments so that the addicted person leaves with good mental health, without addiction. But I must say that because they are places that welcome many people, the owners of the places ask the addict's relatives to donate some food and money to support the place where they help the sick. in my opinion it's a good thing. I had some addicted relatives who went to this place and got better. When a person is sick, they have to have the courage to say: "I'm sick and I need help" is the first condition for the person to get better, if the person refuses to accept that they are sick then they will not improve treatment to quit the addiction

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Quote from: arwin100 on July 21, 2021, 06:17:48 AM

Quote from: swogerino on July 21, 2021, 02:24:47 AM

I think what made the situation worse is the pandemic,many people lost their jobs or a certain part of their salary and they were locked at home for some months during 2020 and this is exactly where online gambling saw a big increase in their user base.Most probably these desperate persons were trying to find a way out and they thought to give gambling a try,this made their situations worse as in gambling we all know we will lose much more than we can win and I think this is exactly where addicts are created in big numbers.It is good that the measures for the pandemic have eased a lot since then and people can start their recovery by returning back to their everyday life.

We cannot blame the pandemic about this issues since if we are in our proper mind to think to much on such things we can avoid to gamble more then came to the point that we been hooked up to the game. Although there are some instance that pandemic really contribute since many casino advertisement popping out but if we know how to control our selves we this gambling things will not hurt us totally. Now since we are slowly progressing maybe its good for addicted gamblers to avoid playing to much so that they will not suffer more financial damage to theirselves.

Agreed, in a time of pandemic perhaps more advertising about gambling or more precisely, people have more time to pay attention to these information patterns but deciding to participate is also a very strong personal responsibility, a failure from here on it is better not to blame gambling but to reconsider your own maturity. The rationale for recent addictions probably arises from our having too much useless time, to avoid the emotions of gambling, to make the most of our time more productively and productively for our lives and families.

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Quote from: boyptc on July 21, 2021, 10:07:25 AM

Yes.

The actual process might be complicated for them but it will be granted if they accept those help. And the money that will be used will be worth it as it will help them mentally.

yeah right, everything for a cause will have the value in changing them and helping them to survive this problem, Even it cause them a lot what matters most is the will to cure them and help them in anyhow.

People who are suffering with gambling addiction, aside from the own will inside them they also needs helps coming from the expert as there's already malfunctions inside their minds and the balance is already in need to adjust to bring it back to the original cycles where specialist is the one who can do it for them.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 19, 2021, 07:00:36 PM

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Seeking help from a psychologist would mean he has to have money to pay for the therapy, there's got to be a lot of control before he could do that. Because I suspect an addict will just gamble instead of paying someone for therapy. He might feel like gambling is more therapeutic for him.

It might be good if there is a government agency handling this kind of problem for gamblers who hits rock bottom because that's where it will really be serious.

An addicted gambler that seeks actual help and really wants to end his addiction wouldn't mind the fee that he has to pay for the professional help that he'll get.

That's why some are asking for actual help to do in the process of elimination of their addiction.

Gamblers who have a strong intention to overcome their addiction, usually they will do various ways for them to recover from addiction.
Including spending a very large amount of money to pay for the therapy, maybe they do this because gambling addiction is hard to make
their life messy. But it is better for the government to help provide assistance to addicted gamblers, it will be more effective to reduce
the number of addicted gamblers. Because there are indeed some gamblers who are unable to pay the therapy fees, due to being in a lot of debt.

Yes.

The actual process might be complicated for them but it will be granted if they accept those help. And the money that will be used will be worth it as it will help them mentally.

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Quote from: Zilon on July 20, 2021, 07:45:24 AM

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 19, 2021, 07:00:36 PM

Gamblers who have a strong intention to overcome their addiction, usually they will do various ways for them to recover from addiction.
Including spending a very large amount of money to pay for the therapy, maybe they do this because gambling addiction is hard to make
their life messy. But it is better for the government to help provide assistance to addicted gamblers, it will be more effective to reduce
the number of addicted gamblers. Because there are indeed some gamblers who are unable to pay the therapy fees, due to being in a lot of debt.

I believe those people really have their chance to solve their addiction problem, especially if some people around them can help them. Yes, he can spend the money to seek help and cure his addiction but other gamblers will not do the same as the addiction level on every gambler will be different. The government can help them and support them, but the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their problem to others. So that makes it the government difficult to start to help them.

Once can only be helped if he/she opens up to some one reliable. There are many addicts who love their present status and feel very comfortable with it. Getting help is a personal decision because you can't help someone who isn't ready to accept help. You might volunteer to help an addict who doesn't want help and end up complicating the whole process. For me the addictor should first desire to helped that Way it makes the whole process more easier.

That is why the addicted person to the gambling needs to have an open mind to share his problem with others. Otherwise, that can cause another conflict between him and them. If the addicted person can get help from others, it will solve the problem and they will have a better life than before because they can solve the addiction. They should do that before everything becomes worse and not get out of addiction for a long time.

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Quote from: swogerino on July 21, 2021, 02:24:47 AM

I think what made the situation worse is the pandemic,many people lost their jobs or a certain part of their salary and they were locked at home for some months during 2020 and this is exactly where online gambling saw a big increase in their user base.Most probably these desperate persons were trying to find a way out and they thought to give gambling a try,this made their situations worse as in gambling we all know we will lose much more than we can win and I think this is exactly where addicts are created in big numbers.It is good that the measures for the pandemic have eased a lot since then and people can start their recovery by returning back to their everyday life.

We cannot blame the pandemic about this issues since if we are in our proper mind to think to much on such things we can avoid to gamble more then came to the point that we been hooked up to the game. Although there are some instance that pandemic really contribute since many casino advertisement popping out but if we know how to control our selves we this gambling things will not hurt us totally. Now since we are slowly progressing maybe its good for addicted gamblers to avoid playing to much so that they will not suffer more financial damage to theirselves.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 17, 2021, 03:06:16 PM

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While it is true that we all want to pursue that which is pleasurable to us it is known that the part of our brains that is in charge of controlling impulses is in the frontal lobe, near our foreheads, and those that have problems controlling their impulses have less activity there caused simply because that is the way they were born or because of an accident, and there is a correlation between lack of impulse control and addictions, so unfortunately there are some people that are predisposed to addictions due to neurological issues.

Well, this is too deep for us discuss here, I think. Although I'd read a good article on the matter(can you recommend one?) I doubt I could say something valuable in this regard even after reading it. That's why many of us in this thread recommend seeking professional help in the first place. We, regular gamblers, can help with an advice or two on very common cases, but still the best advice we can give - go to a pro.

Here is an article about it, it is about alcohol addiction but extrapolations can be made about gambling as well.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2730661/

Thank you for the link. I will download a pdf format to my kindle, and will read it, but after a quick scan I can see that it will take time, maybe a lot of time, until I will be able to understand the most part of it, let alone every word there. But I will try. This topic is very interesting to me. Who knows, maybe I can become an expert in this field one day.

Quote from: Silberman on July 17, 2021, 03:06:16 PM

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And here is a quote from the same article.

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Thus, addiction is likely due in part to increased impulsiveness from the loss of frontal cortical inhibition of impulses and increased limbic drive.

So while addiction is not completely caused by a diminished activity on the frontal lobe it is a factor that is there which means that those that have lower activity in that region of their brains are at higher risk of becoming addicted to anything.

I hope I will be able to comment on this, after exploring the article.

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I think what made the situation worse is the pandemic,many people lost their jobs or a certain part of their salary and they were locked at home for some months during 2020 and this is exactly where online gambling saw a big increase in their user base.Most probably these desperate persons were trying to find a way out and they thought to give gambling a try,this made their situations worse as in gambling we all know we will lose much more than we can win and I think this is exactly where addicts are created in big numbers.It is good that the measures for the pandemic have eased a lot since then and people can start their recovery by returning back to their everyday life.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 20, 2021, 01:16:19 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 19, 2021, 07:00:36 PM

Gamblers who have a strong intention to overcome their addiction, usually they will do various ways for them to recover from addiction.
Including spending a very large amount of money to pay for the therapy, maybe they do this because gambling addiction is hard to make
their life messy. But it is better for the government to help provide assistance to addicted gamblers, it will be more effective to reduce
the number of addicted gamblers. Because there are indeed some gamblers who are unable to pay the therapy fees, due to being in a lot of debt.

Many people talk about therapy or consultation with psychologist to solve gambling addiction. I have one question related to this, how effective is such therapy to solve gambling addiction? Is there any studies about the effectivity of therapy to help gamblers overcome their addiction? Just curious, because I still believe that the only way to overcome any addiction will always start from ourselves. Most of the time I think that others wont be able to help, maybe I'm wrong but it is based on my own experience when I was an alcohol addict long time ago but I could stop it myself without any helps from other people.

Indeed, therapy will not be effective if there is no desire from ourselves to recover, because like you said the key is in ourselves. As long as there is
no strong desire on our part to recover from gambling addiction, doing therapy may only make us stop gambling temporarily and at any time we
can relapse. So to cure gambling addiction, it is necessary to convince the gambler, what he did was wrong, and it took someone close to him to
help convince him that he wanted to recover from his gambling addiction.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 20, 2021, 05:32:55 PM

Addiction is something that can be cured directly or in instant but doesnt mean its not possible.

It depends on the gravity of addiction, once you are addicted, you already have a problem and I don't think it could be cured instantly as you are building that overtime until it enters into your system, eventually it will control you and you'll not be able to think of minimizing the risk when you are gambling.

Gambling addiction can be treated, but it needs time and your dedication to change your life for the better.

In the end, it's your effort that is necessary, you cannot rely on your change on other people.

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Quote from: Silberman on July 20, 2021, 03:06:17 PM

Quote from: Woodie on July 17, 2021, 04:14:06 PM

This is like the third time am seeing a thread talk about Gambling addiction, does this mean this pandemic has given people a reason to gamble more such that they have forgotten to limit themselves??

If gambling is really an issue talk to some one you trust preferably family or friends because you don't want someone that will look down on you for opening up.

All addictions went up during the pandemic, we must understand that people are social by nature so the lockdowns affected people, now if you were living with your family then this was not as much of an issue but for those living alone this was terrible, this means that we saw an increase in all kind of addictions including but not limited to drugs, alcohol, food, video games, social media and gambling, so this is why it is so important to discuss it as some people may be on the verge to fall into this and we could get to them before they fall even further into those harmful behaviors.

Do you have any source about this matter about raising up addiction percentage since this pandemic?

We can really say that online gambling did really have significant rise in users since people are spending mostly online of their time and even non gamblers had been hooked up
because of those more screen time.

Addiction is something that can be cured directly or in instant but doesnt mean its not possible.

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The topic is worrying, because eventually the topic of addiction is appearing much more in people who have never gambled and who are desperate for money, in fact I know some people who have come to casino games because they see it as advice that they got on google to make money, and most of them are unemployed and want to maintain their status-quo by resorting to such actions as casinos and gambling, obviously if a person has no experience they can lose a lot, becoming addicted quickly, for me the pandemic has seen many new players with and without experience entering.

I think the only way to combat addiction is with professional help and manage stress and anxiety with other games, games that do not involve a lot of money but that can generate it, some games like Warcraft, Tibia, Axie Infinity are some of the options that they can take, and that is what many have dedicated themselves to, since they can invest but with more options to gain than lose, but that involve a lot of time to dedicate to it.

This is a very good article about addiction and tells how you can deal with the problem:

Gambling Addiction and Problem Gambling

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The biggest step to overcoming a gambling addiction is realizing that you have a problem. It takes tremendous strength and courage to own up to this, especially if you have lost a lot of money and strained or broken relationships along the way. Don’t despair, and don’t try to go it alone. Many others have been in your shoes and have been able to break the habit and rebuild their lives. You can, too.

Source: https://www.helpguide.org/articles/addictions/gambling-addiction-and-problem-gambling.htm#

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Quote from: Silberman on July 20, 2021, 03:06:17 PM

Quote from: Woodie on July 17, 2021, 04:14:06 PM

This is like the third time am seeing a thread talk about Gambling addiction, does this mean this pandemic has given people a reason to gamble more such that they have forgotten to limit themselves??

If gambling is really an issue talk to some one you trust preferably family or friends because you don't want someone that will look down on you for opening up.

All addictions went up during the pandemic, we must understand that people are social by nature so the lockdowns affected people, now if you were living with your family then this was not as much of an issue but for those living alone this was terrible, this means that we saw an increase in all kind of addictions including but not limited to drugs, alcohol, food, video games, social media and gambling

Are you implying that our social well-being is to blame for those that have turned out to be gambling addicts?
Honestly this is just a sympathy card for those that would say this because you could use this time to learn something new, a new degree if you can because we have plenty of online schools right about now and this could get you socializing again.

Btw very valid points you have aired @Silberman

Quote from: Silberman on July 20, 2021, 03:06:17 PM

so this is why it is so important to discuss it as some people may be on the verge to fall into this and we could get to them before they fall even further into those harmful behaviors.

For these regulated casinos they should know that people are gambling heavily this time around and should see this has business as usual, let them have some kind of reminder on one's dashboard on the signs and ways to over come gambling addiction...I remember seeing this on bet365, wonder if they still do it.

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Quote from: Woodie on July 17, 2021, 04:14:06 PM

This is like the third time am seeing a thread talk about Gambling addiction, does this mean this pandemic has given people a reason to gamble more such that they have forgotten to limit themselves??

If gambling is really an issue talk to some one you trust preferably family or friends because you don't want someone that will look down on you for opening up.

All addictions went up during the pandemic, we must understand that people are social by nature so the lockdowns affected people, now if you were living with your family then this was not as much of an issue but for those living alone this was terrible, this means that we saw an increase in all kind of addictions including but not limited to drugs, alcohol, food, video games, social media and gambling, so this is why it is so important to discuss it as some people may be on the verge to fall into this and we could get to them before they fall even further into those harmful behaviors.

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Quote from: michellee on July 20, 2021, 07:34:30 AM

Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 19, 2021, 07:00:36 PM

Gamblers who have a strong intention to overcome their addiction, usually they will do various ways for them to recover from addiction.
Including spending a very large amount of money to pay for the therapy, maybe they do this because gambling addiction is hard to make
their life messy. But it is better for the government to help provide assistance to addicted gamblers, it will be more effective to reduce
the number of addicted gamblers. Because there are indeed some gamblers who are unable to pay the therapy fees, due to being in a lot of debt.

I believe those people really have their chance to solve their addiction problem, especially if some people around them can help them. Yes, he can spend the money to seek help and cure his addiction but other gamblers will not do the same as the addiction level on every gambler will be different. The government can help them and support them, but the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their problem to others. So that makes it the government difficult to start to help them.

Once can only be helped if he/she opens up to some one reliable. There are many addicts who love their present status and feel very comfortable with it. Getting help is a personal decision because you can't help someone who isn't ready to accept help. You might volunteer to help an addict who doesn't want help and end up complicating the whole process. For me the addictor should first desire to helped that Way it makes the whole process more easier.

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Quote from: Wawa2013 on July 19, 2021, 07:00:36 PM

Gamblers who have a strong intention to overcome their addiction, usually they will do various ways for them to recover from addiction.
Including spending a very large amount of money to pay for the therapy, maybe they do this because gambling addiction is hard to make
their life messy. But it is better for the government to help provide assistance to addicted gamblers, it will be more effective to reduce
the number of addicted gamblers. Because there are indeed some gamblers who are unable to pay the therapy fees, due to being in a lot of debt.

I believe those people really have their chance to solve their addiction problem, especially if some people around them can help them. Yes, he can spend the money to seek help and cure his addiction but other gamblers will not do the same as the addiction level on every gambler will be different. The government can help them and support them, but the addicted person to gambling does not want to tell their problem to others. So that makes it the government difficult to start to help them.

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