Topic: Which bitcoin casino is your favourite and why? - page 2. (Read 3606 times)

only play poker so has to be seals with clubs

Yes, in theory I understand this is the way it's supposed to work. Take note that the slots I played yesterday didn't have jackpots.

There's really no excuse for a casino to configure their slots for low payout (my example below) or increase the difficulty at particular times. Yes, a casino recently admitted their slots' difficulty level was too high for the free voucher play. Then when they failed to change the difficulty level back to impossible after trying to configure (not sure if it's done per user or at the server level) one user was literally accused of exploiting the fact that the slots were paying too high - it was an error at that point. Not a cheat gone bad.

THIS is the type of stuff we don't need or want. A few happy customers don't equate to or represent the entire bitcoin gaming community. And I've given several of these places so many opportunities to prove themselves - all the while losing my money to their greed.

I pay attention... in ways most don't think about. I recognize some of the tactics used to deceive players. Lots of them actually. I have screenshots/recordings of some of the stuff I've witnessed that would make you do a double take. Clever, clever programming, but sometimes they slip. Or so cheap they can't afford real devs.

Indulge yourself by reading my post history if you'd like. I call them out (have two I need to do actually)... just check out their responses. They know when I know I've caught onto one of their scams. Mostly they pray I forget about it or quietly remove evidence from their site (one removed two jackpot winners!). Yes, I follow up. Who knows... perhaps it's tenacity in exposing their schemes is the reason everybody else around me seems to be winning except me. Wouldn't surprise me at all if I'm their laughing stock, I lose so often/much. I already know my IP and personal email was shared...

I'll leave it at this for now.

But to answer your original question.. I have have no favorite casino. Betcoinsports was, but it's replacement BetcoinCasino doesn't make my frequent list. If bitcoinvideocasino would stop cheating, they'd be it at the moment. Unfortunately I decided to give them another try and ended up losing over 1+BTC in less than an hour of play perhaps (close to 1.5 total - just today). How? played for hours at .0001 bet and the slots behaved as expected. I tried the other games for a lil while, but no secret I prefer slots. Anyways, after losing about 30x in a row, made another deposit and upped the ante to the next level of .001. First couple of spins the slot realized I might suspect something (they have a mind of their own don't they , and I was able to recover my day's loss from a couple of spins. Sure, I could've walked away at that break even point, but it was a conscious decision to continue. Then suddenly, without even so much as a warning, it dumped no pay results on me until all was coins were gone. Naturally I'm left wondering if their slot difficulty is positively correlated with wager amount. But we already know the answer, don't we.

You should note that the slots that are having jackpots are having normally lower payout ratio as they are taking 1-2% for the jackpot pool to be fed with that. At least a nice example of that is a game from NetENT Megafortune.

It's believable I suppose - I simply don't know enough about that piece (other than observation and what others say) to have an informed opinion. But I would like to caveat that with this... in the long run - all it takes is that one lucky person to hit a jackpot for the casino to realize that 2-4% margin. In the meantime, 98% never cashes out. 

RNG can be a bitch sometimes I agree but thats what slots are all about. Seeing the operation of the casinos from the inside in the classic online casino space I can tell you that 2-4% margin is correct on the long run for most of slots at bigger casinos that use popular RNG slot producers. The big differences between slots are in volatility though. I know it is hard to believe sometimes but its true.

A question for Aksplace and b!z since you guys are more into reviewing casino webpages,

I saw somewhere in your reviews from one casino that you try to check the hot wallet of casino to see if they are able to payout the players.  What kind of criteria are you using to say, ok this casino has enough BTC in their wallet. Is there a ratio for that compared to the max bet on the roulette for example?

What is the min. amount of BTC in your opinion for a healthy casino to have in the hot wallet? And what numbers raises red flag?

I can also assume that this kind of information could be private in some times and that casinos are not comfortable to disclose this info.

Hooray, do I see a light bulb above your head? Google is a good helper in situations like this, isn't it!

Now roll back and delete all your incompetent posts with the "all casinos that offer bonuses are rigged" statements. Or maybe you are still not fully convinced? Do some more googling, you might find more answers!

I've got to tell you Alan, sometimes you do make my day!

Nope, that's actually correct for most casinos.

No comment, I only play slots for the most part.


I've managed to clear the wagering requirements at casinos before, but it's a challenge and I'm only successful (now) maybe about 10% of the time. Last year when I'd drop 10BTC in a casino, it was easy... almost impossible if you deposit below a certain threshold. If you really think most casinos' slots only have an house edge of 2-4%, please direct me to them; I'm tired of what's available now. Here's what my game play is like now for the most part:

Oh, I thought you were onto something   lol  But yes, it's just unfortunate what we have to experience just to find a place that won't cheat - this is coming from my experience. And I agree with you 100%... customer service isn't top priority, making money is. I wouldn't doubt when the well runs dry, flaky casino owners just go out and open up another. With the coins I've lost this year in casinos alone, I could open my own... seriously. Hell, I should do that.

What you should be wagering here is bonus and not bonus + deposited amount.

Maybe you would be surprised but most of the fiat online casinos have 0% wagering set on table games. And its quite normal. Mostly the wagering of the bonus is only possible with slots and its 100%. House edges on the slots are 2-4%. Also you would be surprised that people do manage to clear (complete wagering requirements) for their bonuses even with that in your opinion high house edge - its true many dont but still the % is higher than 10. I guess this has to do with the fact that the odds are truly in casino favour but on the other hands big wins happen as well. So then we are talking about the volatility of slot and payout distribution.

Regarding the rigged casinos it was a question actually. Regarding bonuses I don't see anything wrong for a casino having 40-50 times wagering requirement. In the end its up to the player if he wants to go that route or not. As mentioned you should be always able to cancel the bonus and keep your money shall you change your mind after depositing. Also I agree that many casinos are trying to be evil by tricking players into wrong decision by giving players too little info and then claiming afterwards that it was written in the small print. But luckily people are not stupid and this kind of techniques are short lived on the long run to keep up the reputable brand.

I think a good question is also how many Bitcoin casinos actually know how to provide good service to their customers. - Live support, how about responsible gaming where people actually can look for organisations that are providing help to addition with gambling or maybe having a nice user friendly FAQ.

In a 8 deck shoe of Baccarat the house edge on a banker bet is 1.06%. Therefore, if you bet $1.00 for 10,000 games, the game balance should be around -1.06%*$10000 = -$100.60
Depending on what deposit and bonus offer you receive, the final balance will be different from casino to casino.

So lets suppose a casino offered you a 200% bonus with a 12x rollover. You will have to look in the fine print but for example BITOOMBA Casino says Baccarat hands equal only .25% of the rollover so we will have to multiply the 12x rollover by 4 to satisfy such bonus. If you deposit $100, just by playing Baccarat alone and only wagering $1.00 per spin you would have to play banker 14400 times to meet such rollover. Lets plug the numbers into the calculation and this is what you should end up around -1.06%*$14400 = -$152.64.

Initial Deposit  + $200 Bonus - $152.64 = +47.36

If this is the case the player has a real edge and is unsuitable for a casino to offer long term especially with bitcoins which anyone could actually create 100 accounts and take such bonus offers. One thing is certain, Most RNG casino software is designed to take advantage of players and without the really dumb providers exposing themselves (casino web scripts for example and also the same software Bit777 shilled for) it sadly goes undetected.

Holy shit... This is happening to me now and I have no clue who the damn culprit is. Usually I give out my luckycris email... but I've signed up with a few sites recently using my real address, and like an idiot used my outlook client to send correspondence to tech support. Jesus. I may never know who sold my address.

FWIW, I played a few Internet casinos 10+ years ago when they offered free money. I played blackjack, luckily won and cashed out at $800.

What's interesting is not the money, but the fact my email address i used has been spammed by 2 dozen online casinos ever since. I can do nothing to get myself off these lists.

So:

1) Casino operators do not care about the law
2) They are a bunch of shit-heads.
3) The fact they would spam me for 10+ years without a single response shows what total shit-heads they are.

Of course the math don't add up but they want you to believe its true, so every time you deposit and continue to lose it was just "bad luck". Most of these conman are worse then child rapist they would eat there own children if they had to. We are writing up a mathematical equation as we speak and breaking it down to show folks how they really roll who offer these so called HUGE BONUSES.

Thanks for the answers.

verajohn.com does look like a very nice solution. It's a blend of high quality content and bitcoin. Apart from accepting bitcoins still they miss almost all bitcoin casino primary advantages as I understand (provability, instant cashouts, privacy respected, no territory restrictions). Nevertheless I am sure they will attract a certain demographics of gamblers in bitcoin space.

I am sure that other classic online casinos will follow the lead.

Is that a fact? I don't doubt it, but guess I'll go consult Google. But I do agree with aksplace to an extent; casino's would go broke without a rollover requirement, they admit this - everyone would take the bonus and run. And think about it... if a casino offers an enormous bonus to every player and their games are really truly fair (whatever the hell this means, I don't even know anymore), what would that tell you about their bottom line? If their casino really has a 90+% payout as they claim, they're paying users for providing the entertainment! But even so, very few players actually meet the rollover requirement anyway. Bonuses attract players no doubt, it's all the baggage that comes along with it that's questionable.

When you translate that into English please re-publish and I will read it.

Sure would hate for a fella to lose bitcoins to a FAIR casino wouldn't we. People are starting to understand the importance of provable fairness we won't let you lead the sheep to the slaughter house and it's been a pleasure on doing so may I add. We are actually publishing a debacle showing how "slow" you really are shortly.

Provably fair is fine - its just provably fair at 47% or whatever. Show me a casino provably fair at 51% and I'll stop by