Which bitcoin casino is your favourite and why? - page 3.

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Quote from: Casino Nick on January 29, 2014, 09:12:45 AM

Quote from: aksplace on January 28, 2014, 07:56:37 PM

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I do not really see many casinos offering any deposit bonuses

Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.

I am sorry but I am not sure I understand your logic here quite well. Bonuses and free spins have been one of the biggest standard promotions in classic gambling industry. Why exactly you believe that in provable casinos it is different? Because all the big slot producers (NETENT, IGT, PT, WMS) are rigged?

You can't find logic somewhere, where there isn't any. Alan was just trying to look smart in front of the newbies so he can lure them to his site... and they can lose their money in the provably fair casinos that pay him.

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on January 29, 2014, 12:08:04 AM

I dislike them all because they all provably take your money Cool

They sure as hell do - one scheme after another. I make quite a big stink about it on their thread too. Matter of fact, I need to hit bitcoinvideocasion's thread up again. Damn slot machine discriminated against my larger bets and refused to hit any lines. But at least when it finally decides to pay, it pays. Unlike most of slot software out now. Sure, you'll hit something every few spins, but out of those, only about 1 out of 10 pays you higher than your initial bet. It's pretty shocking when a slot throws confetti at you and flash 'Big Win' in your face when you've only won .7 credits on a .3 game. OMG, the list just goes on and on. I should compile all this in one reference thread.

Simple answer - stop playing. We both know casinos are the ultimate riggers ....

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on January 29, 2014, 12:08:04 AM

I dislike them all because they all provably take your money Cool

They sure as hell do - one scheme after another. I make quite a big stink about it on their thread too. Matter of fact, I need to hit bitcoinvideocasion's thread up again. Damn slot machine discriminated against my larger bets and refused to hit any lines. But at least when it finally decides to pay, it pays. Unlike most of slot software out now. Sure, you'll hit something every few spins, but out of those, only about 1 out of 10 pays you higher than your initial bet. It's pretty shocking when a slot throws confetti at you and flash 'Big Win' in your face when you've only won .7 credits on a .3 game. OMG, the list just goes on and on. I should compile all this in one reference thread.

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Quote from: aksplace on January 28, 2014, 07:56:37 PM

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I do not really see many casinos offering any deposit bonuses

Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.

I am sorry but I am not sure I understand your logic here quite well. Bonuses and free spins have been one of the biggest standard promotions in classic gambling industry. Why exactly you believe that in provable casinos it is different? Because all the big slot producers (NETENT, IGT, PT, WMS) are rigged?

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Quote from: Casino Nick on January 29, 2014, 03:02:56 AM

Thanks for breaking it down. I do see your point that as soon as bigger slot providers start to support bitcoins there will be alot more great content available. As it is today there is nobody from the big slot producers allowing you to play directly with Bitcoins as far as I know. I guess its also a question if you provability wins over nice looking content (3d slot) for example?

How much do you spend for gambling per month would you say on average?

I am not your whale, I am your social player, maybe some day when BTC = $1mil I might be until then I play on USD average.

As more mass adoption hits, I think the provably fair issues will leave, I see it more as geek gambling. Blackjack, roulette, and baccrat is easy either way but when you get into slots I want to be entertained, and only local slot game I play is Texas Tea.

Probably in a given month wife and I puts $100-200 a month into state run machines and we usually run about 10-25% deficient on that on a yearly average. We do it socially, go out for an evening get dinner then play for a half hour and get a few drinks. When we go to the local table game casino she puts $20 in slots, I play $100 of blackjack, but again its more of a night out, dinner drinks and etc.

Here in BTC earlier during college football season maybe $25-50 a week on sportsbettting and like I said ~$20 a week on black jack, but stopped mid season as BTC jumped from $100 a coin to $1000. (These quick jumps are going to cause some in BTC to be cautious when the market moves)

Also as a note - I wont gamble any where here that wont keep it as BTC (no cash transactions) - though it would make a cheap exchange though, no transaction fees.

You run at 10% to 25% deficit - why do you do it?

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I like just-dice the most because they seems very fair to me. On poker I like seals because of the number of players playing there.

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Quote from: aksplace on January 29, 2014, 02:15:12 AM

Casino bonuses are only industry standard for RNG casinos, the ones that "fix games" or in a better term set a guaranteed casino percentage profit. And unlike most RNG software, provably fair casinos each hand or game is not a guarantee for the casino and the outcome is truly random. Long term success statistically is impossible for a provably fair casino offering bonuses without a huge rollover. I can only think of one provably fair casino that offers a bonus,they are also stiffing players as we speak. That statement was accurate

I cannot stop laughing right now.

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So Allan, essentially you are stating that Microgaming, Playtech, IGT, NetEnt, Sheriff Gaming, Novomatic, EGT and countless others are providing rigged software, because every single casino that uses their software offers large bonuses, and is also RNG and does not feature the provably fair technology. You must be out of your mind to make such a ludacris statement. Have you EVER had any closer encounters to such software? My best guess is NO, otherwise you would know better. You would know about the different randomness tests their RNG's have gone through, something that most bitcoin casinos have not (and of course are left vulnerable against different attacks). You would know that their "guaranteed percentage profit" is guaranteed after tens of millions of games - which is a mathematical guarantee not a software one, and there are 0 guarantees in the short term. You would know other important facts, but I am not here to educate you, that's your job.

After such statements I can only wonder how can you push your opinion as credible, when there is no common sense in it at all.

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I will break it down like this - I bet sports (NCAA FB much pretty thats it) and play Blackjack and everyonce in a while Dice (modified Roulette) here.

For Provably Fair BJ

1. Casinobitco.in 2. BitcoinVideoCasino

For NonProvably Fair BJ - Real feel
1. Bit777 - as they are only ones I trust with an RNG

Dice

1. Just-Dice 2. Coinroll.it

Sportsbooks

1 Casinobitco.in 2. Bitbook 3. Nitrogen - I use the three and honestly all offer great service and an assest to the BTC community, imo

As far as the other stuff out right now I will pass.

Why because I live in a state where Video Poker Parlors are allowed (and are within 500 yards of my house) and the IGT system is used and has state audited payouts. My wife and I both play, she moreso than me as its a way to decompress, but if/when IGT games are on a Bitcoin site imo its game over. Because games like Texas Tea, Lion Fish, and such are the standard, and such more fun to play.

Also live within 45 minutes of table games also so if I want to play BJ I can go there, but to sit down on the computer and throw $20 on some BJ on a Friday night without driving 45 minutes is nice, and why I play in BTC

Thanks for breaking it down. I do see your point that as soon as bigger slot providers start to support bitcoins there will be alot more great content available. As it is today there is nobody from the big slot producers allowing you to play directly with Bitcoins as far as I know. I guess its also a question if you provability wins over nice looking content (3d slot) for example?

How much do you spend for gambling per month would you say on average?

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Quote from: bit777 on January 29, 2014, 01:54:57 AM

Quote from: aksplace on January 28, 2014, 07:56:37 PM

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I do not really see many casinos offering any deposit bonuses

Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.

This is the most misleading statement I've read in recent days. I am surprised it comes from such a renown casino professional. Casino bonuses are industry standard, and they should and must be offered by any casino that wants to keep their players or attract new ones. Both online and land-based. The fact that some of the provably fair casinos are not offering such means that their owners are not very experienced in the gambling industry nor in marketing it.

Casino bonuses are only industry standard for RNG casinos, the ones that "fix games" or in a better term set a guaranteed casino percentage profit. And unlike most RNG software, provably fair casinos each hand or game is not a guarantee for the casino and the outcome is truly random. Long term success statistically is impossible for a provably fair casino offering bonuses without a huge rollover. I can only think of one provably fair casino that offers a bonus,they are also stiffing players as we speak. That statement was accurate

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Quote from: aksplace on January 28, 2014, 07:56:37 PM

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I do not really see many casinos offering any deposit bonuses

Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.

This is the most misleading statement I've read in recent days. I am surprised it comes from such a renown casino professional. Casino bonuses are industry standard, and they should and must be offered by any casino that wants to keep their players or attract new ones. Both online and land-based. The fact that some of the provably fair casinos are not offering such means that their owners are not very experienced in the gambling industry nor in marketing it.

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I dislike them all because they all provably take your money Cool

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Quote from: Casino Nick on January 28, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

Hi guys,

I'm coming from iGaming industry and as you can see I'm quite new at this forum. I would love to hear your opinion about your experience good or bad with the Bitcoin casinos that you had so far.

Are you looking at it as a player or an actor?

Quote from: Casino Nick on January 28, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

1. Where do you like to play the most and why?

I think I will play the most at verajohn.com, since they have the highest quality of games, nice level system and so on. They claim to be "the first old" online casino that takes bitcoin.

Quote from: Casino Nick on January 28, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

2. Which is your favourite casino game?

Mega Fortune. Not really a bitcoin game but since I can now play it for bitcoin, I can win the huge jackpot.

Quote from: Casino Nick on January 28, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

3. Do you think current casinos are missing something that you would love to see in the next casino?

Well again, there's only the verajohn casino that has the high quality games that you should be used to from your iGaming background.

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Quote from: cwil on January 28, 2014, 07:16:22 PM

Quote from: BITOOMBA CASINO on January 28, 2014, 06:38:41 PM

Hello cwil,

When did you not receive a payout of 6 BTC from Bitoomba?

And why would you say our software is "pretty buggy"?

We are constantly adding new games having 8 different slots, provably fair blackjack, baccarat roulette and dice with Video poker coming soon i think it's safe to say we have definitely improved in the last few months and getting even better...

This must have been one or two months ago, I won a large amount on I believe your dino cash game and when I went to withdraw it said displayed an error message similar to "[Object object]." I believe this had to do with your hot wallet lacking funds. Assuming that problem is fixed, I had no other issues with your casino and the games were unique and fun as I remember them.

Thanks for the kind words about our games and casino.

We did have some big wins in Dino Gold in the past 2 months and we have also had an 11BTC win in The Pirates this month but we have not had any payout issues (that we are aware of) furthermore it is not likely at all that our hot wallet was lacking funds.

Did you contact our support team regarding this issue? Can you send me your username in a PM so i can investigate?

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I do not really see many casinos offering any deposit bonuses

Provably fair casinos would go bankrupt if they would offer a bonus without some sort of exorbitant rollover requirement. Reason so, they are FAIR which is the keyword here. Companies that offer 200% cash bonuses for casino games clearly run a rigged house and should be avoided. Just take a look at the threads here this week, it's pretty clear who offers honest games and who does not.

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Bit777 is my favourite.......

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Quote from: BITOOMBA CASINO on January 28, 2014, 06:38:41 PM

Hello cwil,

When did you not receive a payout of 6 BTC from Bitoomba?

And why would you say our software is "pretty buggy"?

We are constantly adding new games having 8 different slots, provably fair blackjack, baccarat roulette and dice with Video poker coming soon i think it's safe to say we have definitely improved in the last few months and getting even better...

This must have been one or two months ago, I won a large amount on I believe your dino cash game and when I went to withdraw it said displayed an error message similar to "[Object object]." I believe this had to do with your hot wallet lacking funds. Assuming that problem is fixed, I had no other issues with your casino and the games were unique and fun as I remember them.

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http://just-dice.com is by far my favorite casino becuase of the provable fairness, the low house edge, and the option to invest. After that, i'd put any website that has a fun game with the gambling, instead of just gambling to lose money.

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