Here in Nigeria, HIV/AIDS screening is not a prerequisite for a job regardless of whether it is the private or public sector.
HIV/AIDS patients should not be stigmatized because some people contact it by mistake. So therefore, they should not be limited to working conditions as they need our love and care to over this phase of trying and difficult time.
SPREAD THE LOVE, NOT THE VIRUS NOR STIGMA!!!!
Topic: Which countries allow HIV positive people to work into? (Read 5069 times)
I don't remember hearing news about countries allowing companies to screen for AIDS before hiring. The problem with that is it could open the doors for companies also asking applicants to get screened for various ailments like diabetes, etc. Which, as you probably expect, would open the door for discrimination. Obviously companies would want the fittest employees, even if it's just an office job.
I'm not sure about other countries but in mine it's illegal for companies to fire an employee simply for being HIV. Since pre-screening is not allowed, the only way they'd know is if you tell them or if they find other ways to get employees tested and then fire them for something else.
You do know you can't transmit HIV the same way like flu right? Not to mention the virus don't survive long outside the body. You can keep kissing a positive person for hours and not contract it, what made you think just working in the same room with a positive colleague would somehow "taint" you? Unless you intend to fuck him/her in the restroom, then that would be your fault and something you shouldn't be doing at work anyway. You're not getting paid to do that.
If they fucked up and got HIV it's their fault, of course you should separate them from healty people, it's their punishment.
You do know you can't transmit HIV the same way like flu right? Not to mention the virus don't survive long outside the body. You can keep kissing a positive person for hours and not contract it, what made you think just working in the same room with a positive colleague would somehow "taint" you? Unless you intend to fuck him/her in the restroom, then that would be your fault and something you shouldn't be doing at work anyway. You're not getting paid to do that.
Use fucking condoms, how can people be so idiots?
If they fucked up and got HIV it's their fault, of course you should separate them from healty people, it's their punishment.
If they got it from blood transfusion, then they should sue the hospital and the doctor/nurse who was responsible.
Lol, it can really be so easy to blame someone for making mistakes but when it comes to those who got it not because they fucked up but they got it from their parents or as to what you have said from the mistake of the hospital. That is why it is not a good idea to generalize it.
Separation from other people is really the best option to prevent it
I don't even know what to say xD
I guess I can't do much better than that:
http://fr.lmgtfy.com/?q=can+you+get+hiv+through+saliva
Here are some articles about how you can't get HIV from kissing:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/transmission.html
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
I mean, HIV can be transmitted only from sexual fluids and blood. To have the slightest chance of getting HIV from kissing would mean the person you're kissing has LIQUID BLOOD IN HIS MOUTH! Like some fucking vampire xD
I don't know if you ever kissed someone, but if you've ever kissed someone and you actually tasted blood while kissing this person... This is something VERY DISTURBING!
And I don't see how having AN INCREDIBLY LOW CHANCE OF EVER GETTING INFECTED from literally EATING the mouth of your partner is linked to HIV people working conditions... You casually french kiss your co-workers on a daily basis? XD
Ah man, you are a pain in the ass with these arguments.
No not liquid blood, it;s enough if there are small tiny microscopic particles. Like some tiny blood cells in the mouth from biting your tongue or something like that.
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The virus is tiny, so it's enough if 1 HIV virus is escaping from your blood stream, and gets into the blood stream of the other guy, it's done at that point.
You can get the virus plenty of times without getting infected.
If 1 HIV virus enters your body you have an INCREDIBLE LOW chance of anything happening!!!
Don't say like it's over and you can do nothing about it...
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And also people can cut themselves,without even realizing it, small drops of blood can be droped on a desk, and then the other guy gets infected who works there.
Like how I cut myself acidentally the other day with a sharp wood fragment, and I haven't even realized but the blood can then be dropped on surfaces, and inthis case that could infect people.
Yes it's low chance, but the chance is not 0%.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMB
Not to say that you also "forget" about your "if you drink to the same source water you can get infected" which is false false faaaaaaaaaaaaalse
You can't get infected by "touching contaminated blood". You can get infected by licking fresh contaminated blood sure, but if you do that you have your own problems xD
Outside of human body the virus doesn't survive longer than a few seconds unless it's kept in a sterilized and warm environment.
And you can touch it as much as you want! You could litteraly drown half of your body in contaminated blood it wouldn't change a thing. (unless this half is the head of course)
I don't even know what to say xD
I guess I can't do much better than that:
http://fr.lmgtfy.com/?q=can+you+get+hiv+through+saliva
Here are some articles about how you can't get HIV from kissing:
https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/transmission.html
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/how-you-get-hiv-aids/
I mean, HIV can be transmitted only from sexual fluids and blood. To have the slightest chance of getting HIV from kissing would mean the person you're kissing has LIQUID BLOOD IN HIS MOUTH! Like some fucking vampire xD
I don't know if you ever kissed someone, but if you've ever kissed someone and you actually tasted blood while kissing this person... This is something VERY DISTURBING!
And I don't see how having AN INCREDIBLY LOW CHANCE OF EVER GETTING INFECTED from literally EATING the mouth of your partner is linked to HIV people working conditions... You casually french kiss your co-workers on a daily basis? XD
Ah man, you are a pain in the ass with these arguments.
No not liquid blood, it;s enough if there are small tiny microscopic particles. Like some tiny blood cells in the mouth from biting your tongue or something like that.
The virus is tiny, so it's enough if 1 HIV virus is escaping from your blood stream, and gets into the blood stream of the other guy, it's done at that point.
And also people can cut themselves,without even realizing it, small drops of blood can be droped on a desk, and then the other guy gets infected who works there.
Like how I cut myself acidentally the other day with a sharp wood fragment, and I haven't even realized but the blood can then be dropped on surfaces, and inthis case that could infect people.
Yes it's low chance, but the chance is not 0%.
From this information? In the middle East are bad for gays. Patients with HIV Infection anywhere else in the world is not popular. This infection is deadly and nobody wants to risk. Although on the surface can be tolerated.
Being gay in countries such as Saudi Arabia is not as bad as you think. Obviously they face some discrimination, but no one is going to behead them or throw them from high-rises for their sexual orientation. Till now, Saudi Arabia has reported more than 5,000 HIV infections among its citizens. The majority were infected through homosexual activity. These people get their regular checkups and medications from the government-run hospitals and every thing is free. But for the HIV positive non-citizens, it is a different story.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't think so, maybe it depends of the nature of the work. Mostly or should I say 98% of all the companies don't do HIV screening. Though, I haven't encounter a person who has HIV, but he./she knows how to handle it and it cannot affect your work then its possible to have a normal life. In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
Well people sometimes don't actually tell the truth because they really want to get the job but people are putting it on the medical info when they apply in here in my country they will accept a person that requires the HIV but really they are not to eat with us or share somethings with them but we truly accept him but not his HIV. Philipines is a very secure country and here i thought that country same as this also 10% people has a HIV and i am afraid to get one its uncured its very scary. People now a days are really earning cancer from one person and the case is having sex with a stranger that you no nothing about. Now that is very scary i really don't want to have HIV >.< i heard it will kill you slowly and surely die >.<
If they fucked up and got HIV it's their fault, of course you should separate them from healty people, it's their punishment.
If they got it from blood transfusion, then they should sue the hospital and the doctor/nurse who was responsible.
There are a lot of things where can a person get an HIV, sexual intercourse was probably the most common one but that does not the only source of HIV.
I can give you one example a nurse recently used the same injection that he/she used to the previous patient that has HIV, Since that requires blood contact then the other patient might probably be able to pass the virus. Other situation would be you saw someone being on the accident you helped him/her and lets just say that you got a wound while helping that person who has an HIV and since you get a direct contact with that person your wound be infected by the blood of that HIV positive person on the accident,, hmm wait should you use a condom before you help them?
So you need to help an HIV infected person (0.8% of population) that this people has an accident where they actually bleed (less than 1% of population) that you help them actively (and not let the safety intervention team do their jobs because you're here before, which is great but happens like maybe 50% of times) that you hurt yourself while helping this person (don't know, maybe 0.5% of chance? I'd say less but whatever) that your bleeding fleshing enters in contact with the hurt person (maybe... 0.0001% chance?) and then you have only a 5% chance of getting infected because blood contact doesn't mean infection (you can have sex with an HIV positive person without getting infected, it's just stupidely risky).
So that makes like... 0.00000000000001% chance of all this happening?
Like, it won't happen. It never happened. Stop spreading stupid and useless fears man ^^
Ok thanks for proving you're completely dumb ^^
First look at your answers, you said they shouldn't be allowed to work in your first post.
But the only fact that you don't understand that you can get lung cancer while smoking and the two being no related show how limited you are.there is no emotion involved here, you're a terrible and limited human being, objectively speaking.
Oh and by the way, do you know what aids are?
You can't get infected from drinking in the same place... you can french kiss someone infected for 5 hours you wouldn't get infected...
It just shows again how limited but yet extremely arrogant you are.
Oh really, more insults, no evidence.
Saying you're dumb isn't an insult, here it's a fact. You're self-contradictory, have no evidence whatsoever, and you ignore logical reasonning. You're dumb, nothing bad about it don't worry!
For example in offices, people drink from 1 water container, so the risk of getting AIDS infection from that is not that small. So that has to be properly examined.
This is false, dumb, unrelated to any real facts etc etc... And unrelated to your whole argumentation about french kissing.
You see? Saying you're dumb is very objective
In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
i was under the impression it was almost totally impossible for anyone to become a citizen of a middle eastern country unless they were born there, not that anyone would want to anyway.
and i don't think they'll be very forgiving if you are a citizen.
Yes. It is next to impossible to obtain the citizenship in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia in rare instances grant citizenship to Muslim immigrants who have stayed there continuously for 20 years or more. Also, they grant citizenship to non-Saudi women married to Saudi men (may be revoked if the marriage ends in a divorce).
In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
i was under the impression it was almost totally impossible for anyone to become a citizen of a middle eastern country unless they were born there, not that anyone would want to anyway.
and i don't think they'll be very forgiving if you are a citizen.
Yes. It is next to impossible to obtain the citizenship in Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia in rare instances grant citizenship to Muslim immigrants who have stayed there continuously for 20 years or more. Also, they grant citizenship to non-Saudi women married to Saudi men (may be revoked if the marriage ends in a divorce).
In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
i was under the impression it was almost totally impossible for anyone to become a citizen of a middle eastern country unless they were born there, not that anyone would want to anyway.
and i don't think they'll be very forgiving if you are a citizen.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't think so, maybe it depends of the nature of the work. Mostly or should I say 98% of all the companies don't do HIV screening. Though, I haven't encounter a person who has HIV, but he./she knows how to handle it and it cannot affect your work then its possible to have a normal life. In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
Oh. I honestly thought they will kick out pretty much whoever has it despite if they a registered local or not.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't think so, maybe it depends of the nature of the work. Mostly or should I say 98% of all the companies don't do HIV screening. Though, I haven't encounter a person who has HIV, but he./she knows how to handle it and it cannot affect your work then its possible to have a normal life. In the middle east, they will kick you out if you are not a citizen. If you have the citizenship, then there is nothing to worry about. The treatment is free, and you will face no harassment even if they know that you got the virus from gay sex.
Ok thanks for proving you're completely dumb ^^
First look at your answers, you said they shouldn't be allowed to work in your first post.
But the only fact that you don't understand that you can get lung cancer while smoking and the two being no related show how limited you are.there is no emotion involved here, you're a terrible and limited human being, objectively speaking.
Oh and by the way, do you know what aids are?
You can't get infected from drinking in the same place... you can french kiss someone infected for 5 hours you wouldn't get infected...
It just shows again how limited but yet extremely arrogant you are.
Oh really, more insults, no evidence.
By the way, you can get HIV from saliva too, not just sexual fluids. It's just that the risk is lower.
So maybe 1 kiss on the chin is small risk, but french kissing for 5 hours? Especially if the person you are kissing might have a sore gum, or maybe the food he ate has cut bruised his gum (which happens to me all the time I eat peanuts or dry bread) so small drops of blood could be released in the mouth.
Ok now that is a guaranteed HIV infection right there.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
why you ask? you're HIV positive?
if i'm an employer i would certainly ask for such info to my employees just so i know who among them are going to take vacation from time to time. the employer i believe has the right to know especially if his business in the "adult" business.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't see any reason that having hiv can affect people's productivity and effectiveness in any way. I mean aside from being depressed and being discriminated, people with hiv can think, react and work as well as people who are well without it. I think this needs to be looked into also as we need to be more educated so that we can lessen discrimination towards hiv victimsAlthough I am against discriminating HIV positive people, I have to say that HIV affects the performance of an individual. The patients are sometimes forced to take drug cocktails, which are having harmful side-effects such as nausea, vomiting.etc.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
Well people sometimes don't actually tell the truth because they really want to get the job but people are putting it on the medical info when they apply in here in my country they will accept a person that requires the HIV but really they are not to eat with us or share somethings with them but we truly accept him but not his HIV. Philipines is a very secure country and here i thought that country same as this also 10% people has a HIV and i am afraid to get one its uncured its very scary. People now a days are really earning cancer from one person and the case is having sex with a stranger that you no nothing about. Now that is very scary i really don't want to have HIV >.< i heard it will kill you slowly and surely die >.<
If they fucked up and got HIV it's their fault, of course you should separate them from healty people, it's their punishment.
If they got it from blood transfusion, then they should sue the hospital and the doctor/nurse who was responsible.
There are a lot of things where can a person get an HIV, sexual intercourse was probably the most common one but that does not the only source of HIV.
I can give you one example a nurse recently used the same injection that he/she used to the previous patient that has HIV, Since that requires blood contact then the other patient might probably be able to pass the virus. Other situation would be you saw someone being on the accident you helped him/her and lets just say that you got a wound while helping that person who has an HIV and since you get a direct contact with that person your wound be infected by the blood of that HIV positive person on the accident,, hmm wait should you use a condom before you help them?
That's very glad to hear that and it's very relieve to know that those people are working instead staying away from life. Although I don't know which countries allow that, but am sure there are many of them
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