I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't think so, maybe it depends of the nature of the work. Mostly or should I say 98% of all the companies don't do HIV screening. Though, I haven't encounter a person who has HIV, but he./she knows how to handle it and it cannot affect your work then its possible to have a normal life. 
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I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't think so, maybe it depends of the nature of the work. Mostly or should I say 98% of all the companies don't do HIV screening. Though, I haven't encounter a person who has HIV, but he./she knows how to handle it and it cannot affect your work then its possible to have a normal life. 
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't see any reason that having hiv can affect people's productivity and effectiveness in any way. I mean aside from being depressed and being discriminated, people with hiv can think, react and work as well as people who are well without it. I think this needs to be looked into also as we need to be more educated so that we can lessen discrimination towards hiv victimsAlthough I am against discriminating HIV positive people, I have to say that HIV affects the performance of an individual. The patients are sometimes forced to take drug cocktails, which are having harmful side-effects such as nausea, vomiting.etc.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't see any reason that having hiv can affect people's productivity and effectiveness in any way. I mean aside from being depressed and being discriminated, people with hiv can think, react and work as well as people who are well without it. I think this needs to be looked into also as we need to be more educated so that we can lessen discrimination towards hiv victims
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't see any reason that having hiv can affect people's productivity and effectiveness in any way. I mean aside from being depressed and being discriminated, people with hiv can think, react and work as well as people who are well without it. I think this needs to be looked into also as we need to be more educated so that we can lessen discrimination towards hiv victimsterrible: bad, dangerous, desperate, extreme, serious, severe
Why do you think it's a question of emotions? It's a pure question of rationality. You're a human being (I guess) and you're both dangerous and extreme, the word terrible applies rather well I'd say.
Stop insulting me. You are not objective if you are calling me things.
You just can't respond to my rational argument because you are addicted to arguments from emotions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
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Ok so here:
1/ We already discussed the fact that "responsibility" is FAR from being clear. You can get aids or lung cancer without being responsible of it! And are you even aware that no one gets "free healthcare" we all pay for it? And do you understand that you can smoke 10 cigs a day, have lung cancer and the two might be COMPLETELY UNRELATED or are you so terrible (see it works well) that you can't even imagine something not absolute?
1/ We already discussed the fact that "responsibility" is FAR from being clear. You can get aids or lung cancer without being responsible of it! And are you even aware that no one gets "free healthcare" we all pay for it? And do you understand that you can smoke 10 cigs a day, have lung cancer and the two might be COMPLETELY UNRELATED or are you so terrible (see it works well) that you can't even imagine something not absolute?
Yes but none of that is based on data, you have just probably made that up.
It is true that there were guys who smoked until 90, but I bet most people just simply die at 60. The exception is not the majority.
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2/You haven't answered this point. HIV isn't enough as a punishment they also have to be ejected from society?
Who said anything about being ejected from society? Now you are putting words in my mouth.I havent even said anything related to their work. But I will give an answer now.
I think that they could work, but only in jobs where the risk of infecting others would be very low.
For example in offices, people drink from 1 water container, so the risk of getting AIDS infection from that is not that small. So that has to be properly examined.
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Lol?
People are "incentivized" to get aids?
The fact that people with aids can work is for you an incentive for them to not take care of their health when they fuck?
So you're actually saying that A CERTAIN DEATH isn't refraining them from doing dangerous things but that not working would be a good threat?
You even understand how stupid that sounds? Because that's exactly what you're saying.
You're saying that rejecting HIV positive people is a good way to limit bad behaviour...
People are "incentivized" to get aids?
The fact that people with aids can work is for you an incentive for them to not take care of their health when they fuck?
So you're actually saying that A CERTAIN DEATH isn't refraining them from doing dangerous things but that not working would be a good threat?
You even understand how stupid that sounds? Because that's exactly what you're saying.
You're saying that rejecting HIV positive people is a good way to limit bad behaviour...
No they are incentivized to fuck without brains. But people dont think about consequences.
And when they get AIDS, they go to online forums to cry to people how it's all the fault of everyone else, but themselves.
Ok thanks for proving you're completely dumb ^^
First look at your answers, you said they shouldn't be allowed to work in your first post.
But the only fact that you don't understand that you can get lung cancer while smoking and the two being no related show how limited you are.there is no emotion involved here, you're a terrible and limited human being, objectively speaking.
Oh and by the way, do you know what aids are?
You can't get infected from drinking in the same place... you can french kiss someone infected for 5 hours you wouldn't get infected...
It just shows again how limited but yet extremely arrogant you are.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
I don't see any reason that having hiv can affect people's productivity and effectiveness in any way. I mean aside from being depressed and being discriminated, people with hiv can think, react and work as well as people who are well without it. I think this needs to be looked into also as we need to be more educated so that we can lessen discrimination towards hiv victims 
terrible: bad, dangerous, desperate, extreme, serious, severe
Why do you think it's a question of emotions? It's a pure question of rationality. You're a human being (I guess) and you're both dangerous and extreme, the word terrible applies rather well I'd say.
Stop insulting me. You are not objective if you are calling me things.
You just can't respond to my rational argument because you are addicted to arguments from emotions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
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Ok so here:
1/ We already discussed the fact that "responsibility" is FAR from being clear. You can get aids or lung cancer without being responsible of it! And are you even aware that no one gets "free healthcare" we all pay for it? And do you understand that you can smoke 10 cigs a day, have lung cancer and the two might be COMPLETELY UNRELATED or are you so terrible (see it works well) that you can't even imagine something not absolute?
1/ We already discussed the fact that "responsibility" is FAR from being clear. You can get aids or lung cancer without being responsible of it! And are you even aware that no one gets "free healthcare" we all pay for it? And do you understand that you can smoke 10 cigs a day, have lung cancer and the two might be COMPLETELY UNRELATED or are you so terrible (see it works well) that you can't even imagine something not absolute?
Yes but none of that is based on data, you have just probably made that up.
It is true that there were guys who smoked until 90, but I bet most people just simply die at 60. The exception is not the majority.
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2/You haven't answered this point. HIV isn't enough as a punishment they also have to be ejected from society?
Who said anything about being ejected from society? Now you are putting words in my mouth.I havent even said anything related to their work. But I will give an answer now.
I think that they could work, but only in jobs where the risk of infecting others would be very low.
For example in offices, people drink from 1 water container, so the risk of getting AIDS infection from that is not that small. So that has to be properly examined.
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Lol?
People are "incentivized" to get aids?
The fact that people with aids can work is for you an incentive for them to not take care of their health when they fuck?
So you're actually saying that A CERTAIN DEATH isn't refraining them from doing dangerous things but that not working would be a good threat?
You even understand how stupid that sounds? Because that's exactly what you're saying.
You're saying that rejecting HIV positive people is a good way to limit bad behaviour...
People are "incentivized" to get aids?
The fact that people with aids can work is for you an incentive for them to not take care of their health when they fuck?
So you're actually saying that A CERTAIN DEATH isn't refraining them from doing dangerous things but that not working would be a good threat?
You even understand how stupid that sounds? Because that's exactly what you're saying.
You're saying that rejecting HIV positive people is a good way to limit bad behaviour...
No they are incentivized to fuck without brains. But people dont think about consequences.
And when they get AIDS, they go to online forums to cry to people how it's all the fault of everyone else, but themselves.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive diseaseFor certain professions, such as those in the defense forces or in healthcare, candidates with HIV are not allowed to apply. But for all other professions, there is no legal ground to bar someone due to his HIV status.
I think those who had sickness like HIV i think government had their own job separated for aids and HIP positive.
Here in my country they are seen this type of virus from some applicant but its not affecting as normal people working for their jobs.
Government here are giving them a chance to work. HIV can't spread if you are not halving sex to others.
So i think it is ok to allow those HIV positive to work.
In developped and civilized countries, you will have a medical checkup but the results will be yours only.
In most civilized countries the employer has no right to enquire about things like your health or private life.
And rightfully.
What does it change that someone has aids?
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You're not only terribly wrong you're also a terrible human being.
Aaaaaah, so now you are giving an argument from emotion, to an argument of rationality. Very honest debating tactics.
You try to emotionize a pretty simple concept: Life has consequences, so deal with it.
It's not like there aren't 9999999999 dangers humans face every single day. Why should 1 person externalize his own dangers to others, that is the real evil thing to do.
Why do you think it's a question of emotions? It's a pure question of rationality. You're a human being (I guess) and you're both dangerous and extreme, the word terrible applies rather well I'd say.
1/ Don't you think that getting the aids in enough for punishment?
That is the punishment, it is the consequence of their poor actions. It's nature's way of punishing people for bad behavior.
Just as a smoker getting lungh cancer is a selfish hypocrite for running to the government and asking for free healthcare, for making his own poor bad decisions, but want others to pay for it. In other words they dont want to assume responsibility for their actions.
1/ We already discussed the fact that "responsibility" is FAR from being clear. You can get aids or lung cancer without being responsible of it! And are you even aware that no one gets "free healthcare" we all pay for it? And do you understand that you can smoke 10 cigs a day, have lung cancer and the two might be COMPLETELY UNRELATED or are you so terrible (see it works well) that you can't even imagine something not absolute?
2/You haven't answered this point. HIV isn't enough as a punishment they also have to be ejected from society?
2/ We agree on the fact that in many cases people who got the aids aren't responsible. How do you decide when one is responsible then?
YES.
I dont know: an investigation. A court. It's not like things cant be proven or debated in modern society.
Besides HIV can be probably cured one day, so this is not like it's a permanent punishment, but until that day, people should be not incentivized to pursue foolish actions.
This is a temporary threat management to say, in order to limit the bad behavior and incentivize the good.
People are "incentivized" to get aids?
The fact that people with aids can work is for you an incentive for them to not take care of their health when they fuck?
So you're actually saying that A CERTAIN DEATH isn't refraining them from doing dangerous things but that not working would be a good threat?
You even understand how stupid that sounds? Because that's exactly what you're saying.
You're saying that rejecting HIV positive people is a good way to limit bad behaviour...
3/ And the most important, you believe that it should be "survival of the strongest" no?
No. I believe that people have to hold personal responsibility.
I do want to help people who have became victims that have not been through their own fault. (Rape victims, sick children, etc...)
But I don't want to help idiots, who have caused the problems for themselves (Smokers getting lungh cancer, Fat people getting diabetes, etc...)
You believe that individuals are completely free of their choices. So that they should take alone responsibility of what happens. It's logical.
Problem is that as far as we know it is not the case.
Did you ever heard of neuromarketing?
It's a very important scientific field of marketing, the goal is to use neuroscience to influence people. To manipulate them.
It's now extremely well developed and at heart of our daily life.
The results are terrifying, most of our consuming actions are unconscious. You buy this or that not because you rationally want to, but because hundreds of very small manipulation leads you to do it.
Sadly I would have trouble advising you lectures in English... I can only recommend you Pierre Bourdieux work.
Neuromarketing is just an example.
What you believe, that humans are completely free of their actions, is basically false, and proved wrong.
We leave in a society built on systems, and those systems have gained so much influence that they partially control our life and ways of thinking.
To think that ones is free so completely responsible is not right, it's just... A social convention, nothing more.
To give you an example: would you say there is a difference of judgement to have between a young woman who killed her father who was raping her on a daily basis and a man who just killed his neighbour because he was angry?
Are you talking about the rule of law. But how is really? If you know of someone in the team are sick with AIDS I doubt that it will be finalized before the end of the month. And rightly so. I do believe that to hide the disease is a crime.
Once again, if that person is denied a promotion, or told to resign from his job, then he can file a court case claiming discrimination based on the HIV status. In the end, the company will be forced to pay a multi-million dollar compensation.
Right. All the companies, if they were smart, would set up a system for selling off the business to a dummie corporation, so that they have an excuse for overturning their employees for any reason.
I think no country has let someone who is HIV positive to keep working, be it in the company or institution government owned. That was done because they think for someone who is HIV positive can not work optimally. In my country also do things like that, a lot of people who were fired after getting caught HIV positive. HIV-positive people in the my country if they want to work should be with the business they built themselves. But in my opinion firings not necessary because if a person is HIV positive can still compete with other workers and have a good performance should not be fired, even it would be better to be given the cost of treatment so as not to disturb their performance.
Are you talking about the rule of law. But how is really? If you know of someone in the team are sick with AIDS I doubt that it will be finalized before the end of the month. And rightly so. I do believe that to hide the disease is a crime.
Once again, if that person is denied a promotion, or told to resign from his job, then he can file a court case claiming discrimination based on the HIV status. In the end, the company will be forced to pay a multi-million dollar compensation.
Yes. All the countries where the companies send products to America. 
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive diseaseFor certain professions, such as those in the defense forces or in healthcare, candidates with HIV are not allowed to apply. But for all other professions, there is no legal ground to bar someone due to his HIV status.
I think those who had sickness like HIV i think government had their own job separated for aids and HIP positive.
Here in my country they are seen this type of virus from some applicant but its not affecting as normal people working for their jobs.
Government here are giving them a chance to work. HIV can't spread if you are not halving sex to others.
So i think it is ok to allow those HIV positive to work.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive diseaseFor certain professions, such as those in the defense forces or in healthcare, candidates with HIV are not allowed to apply. But for all other professions, there is no legal ground to bar someone due to his HIV status.
I think those who had sickness like HIV i think government had their own job separated for aids and HIP positive.
Here in my country they are seen this type of virus from some applicant but its not affecting as normal people working for their jobs.
Government here are giving them a chance to work. HIV can't spread if you are not halving sex to others.
So i think it is ok to allow those HIV positive to work.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive diseaseFor certain professions, such as those in the defense forces or in healthcare, candidates with HIV are not allowed to apply. But for all other professions, there is no legal ground to bar someone due to his HIV status.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive diseaseFor certain professions, such as those in the defense forces or in healthcare, candidates with HIV are not allowed to apply. But for all other professions, there is no legal ground to bar someone due to his HIV status.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
In the Philippines there are no discrimination even though you have HIV and you are still capable of working then you will still be accepted. But there are conditions on what kind of work you are in like office work, clerical, messengerial and other jobs that doesnt deal with body contact or food business. But the problem with HIV is that it lowers your immune system and that will result to different kind of disease as lung cancer, penumonia and others. When you accumulate major sickness due to HIV weakening your immune system then you will no longer be qualified to work.
I believe in Philippines, you are not required HIV screening for your pre-employment. Are there any countries that allow you to work if you are HIV positive?
It depends on what field of job you are applying for. Most of all countries required hiv screening for them to prove that you are fit for your desired of work. Hiv is a very sensitive disease