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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

Coin dump can cause the price of a coin to fall but can rise again if the project is committed to its investors. While market manipulation is more structured cheating and in my opinion this is more frightening than coin dump

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This is why we need specially the traders to do further more research before engaging up to such news. There is no wrong either with that as long as we can coped up with the situation. What must be understand is that what we need to do before and during such situation in order to lessen further losses and maximize potential earnings. What makes me scared is that the long bear market and then market would still be going down.

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Yes, market manipulation is very bad. Sometimes it does not allow you to see the full picture of what is happening in the market and it can play a cruel joke.

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They're both feared, but usually by different traders.

Usually more accomplished traders will be worried about market manipulation, since this will throw all their technical/fundamental analysis, charting and market insight straight out the window.

Coins being dumped usually only affects those that were stupid enough to buy risky cryptocurrencies, such as inexperienced investors. I doubt many truly stellar traders have been affected by these, only noob bag holders.

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Quote from: Darlingtona on November 12, 2019, 03:44:57 PM

Most scary is seeing you bought tokens dumping like hell without reasons.

It's not without any reasons but it simply implies that there's a massive sell out that happens and you're missing the moment because you're just watching the whole scene. I know how it feels to see your most precious altcoins getting burned in value without doing any action. Why is it its like that? because we're believing that the coin that we're holding is going to do something in the near future and we don't want to sell it because if we do, we'll miss that chance of profiting much but instead of that, the opposite happens.

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

At least dumps are more natural and were caused mostly by people on our level unlike market manipulation that only mainly making income for very few people. Market manipulation could do some good in the industry but it does not focus on the welfare of the majority. There are times that there is a need for market manipulation but in mamy cases, it is just being abused.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 12, 2019, 08:11:12 AM

I am not scared, but I am worried if I see the market got dump because that will makes the price is down too deep. That will makes traders will panic because some of them cannot hold longer and they will make fast decision to sell their coin without think that is only for a flash dump. I am worried that the price needs longer to increase again, and sometimes, that will trigger to get another dump. I see that is happening with bitcoin yesterday and make the price down step by step.

there are many traders out there who certainly have different ways, some traders have good patience and of course when a dump occurs they will be better able to control themselves better and remain patient to wait for the market to pump. in potential coin trading i don't think it takes a long time to increase again so there is no reason for you to sell it too fast because prices will at least go down and go up fast, of course good traders will be aware of the situation

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

Even though price fluctuations are normal, market manipulation is still a cringe concept for me. It is so ironic that most of us prefer crypto over fiat because we do not like the long processes of many banks and how they easily control the money. Yet, here we are, letting many big platforms manipulate the market. Well, there is almost nothing we can do. We do not have high impact in the market individually so, even if one wants to go against the tide, he will drown.

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Most scary is seeing you bought tokens dumping like hell without reasons.

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

I'm scared too because of marketcap situation, still marketcap is under 250 billions. Altcoins season isn't coming yet and Bitcoin dominance isn't over yet. If market move again you can trust top coin. Although why are you waiting for pump, you should wait for plummet and instant you should invest.

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Quote from: calandra78 on November 12, 2019, 08:10:58 AM

Quote from: breathlessz on November 12, 2019, 08:05:54 AM

it would be more beneficial if we know the whales scenario, because the crypto world is a decentralized system, so manipulation seems to be a close friend of those who are strong. therefore don't be greedy for profit, so we can consistently get the benefits

how do we know that? you might be trapped in this scenario. the market is truly unpredictable now. some sentiments from the celebrities on the market also failed to make the pump. somehow we have to focus on what kind of analysis.

It would be hard to determine, getting along on the trend or in the market movement can be risky since the market is really unpredictable. It may become the reason for possible loss.
Deep Analyzation is really needed, as you said, the market is unpredictable, but even if we study the market, we can't still expect the possible outcome that will happen.

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Market manipulation can either lead to coin pump or dump. Dumping doesn't just happen, fud and manipulation takes centre stage in the dumping of coins.

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I am not scared, but I am worried if I see the market got dump because that will makes the price is down too deep. That will makes traders will panic because some of them cannot hold longer and they will make fast decision to sell their coin without think that is only for a flash dump. I am worried that the price needs longer to increase again, and sometimes, that will trigger to get another dump. I see that is happening with bitcoin yesterday and make the price down step by step.

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Quote from: breathlessz on November 12, 2019, 08:05:54 AM

it would be more beneficial if we know the whales scenario, because the crypto world is a decentralized system, so manipulation seems to be a close friend of those who are strong. therefore don't be greedy for profit, so we can consistently get the benefits

how do we know that? you might be trapped in this scenario. the market is truly unpredictable now. some sentiments from the celebrities on the market also failed to make the pump. somehow we have to focus on what kind of analysis.

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Quote from: Memminger on November 12, 2019, 07:36:08 AM

Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

Though I am still looking forward that the cryptomarket would grow huge up to the point that price manipulation by whales would not have this kind of massive impact. I think it is better not to get profit than riding a FOMO that would drag your assets down the drain.

What I’m scared about is that I had invested my time, energy and effort for months and yet I would not get anything being a totally waste of resources since in the end they turn out to be scam even those unexpected ones who are managed by reputed people but sometimes they also fall in this kind of trap.

it would be more beneficial if we know the whales scenario, because the crypto world is a decentralized system, so manipulation seems to be a close friend of those who are strong. therefore don't be greedy for profit, so we can consistently get the benefits

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Quote from: tadpole_bitfrog on November 12, 2019, 07:41:57 AM

I have the same fear as you. Trading indicators really matter for a market that is always manipulated as strongly as the crypto market. There, it takes people tens of thousands of dollars to realize the problem and experience.
so even the knowledgeable person will not easily beat the market. Just to be safe, you shouldn't trade here. hold & sell high is the best strategy.

TA is pretty much useless, Most analysts have been wrong and only a few correct predictions.

Quote from: TIDOVEE on November 12, 2019, 06:10:58 AM

Market manipulation can produce price dump, and not all price dump are as a result of market manipulation.

Market manipulation creates opportunity if you played it well.

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

I have the same fear as you. Trading indicators really matter for a market that is always manipulated as strongly as the crypto market. There, it takes people tens of thousands of dollars to realize the problem and experience.
so even the knowledgeable person will not easily beat the market. Just to be safe, you shouldn't trade here. hold & sell high is the best strategy.

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

Though I am still looking forward that the cryptomarket would grow huge up to the point that price manipulation by whales would not have this kind of massive impact. I think it is better not to get profit than riding a FOMO that would drag your assets down the drain.

What I’m scared about is that I had invested my time, energy and effort for months and yet I would not get anything being a totally waste of resources since in the end they turn out to be scam even those unexpected ones who are managed by reputed people but sometimes they also fall in this kind of trap.

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Quote from: Natalim on November 12, 2019, 01:43:13 AM

There is no such thing as scary if you understand that its normal and you know how to play it.
Market manipulation could result to dump and pump, that is what is happening in the market, therefore you need to make some strategy to benefit on that.

That's how experienced traders are doing, instead of worrying about this certain dump they manage to accumulate and wait for the time that bounce
back shows and quickly sell out for decent profits. Repeating steps by steps and having a good skills anticipating how the market brings them is the key
in order to place good positioning. Most of the time it's experienced and instinct that helps to make a good decision around this market.

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Quote from: caffu chino on November 11, 2019, 02:51:22 AM

Hi all...
I want to ask, which of these two things is more feared by traders, market manipulation or coin dumps. both of these things always make the loss of traders from the beginning of popular crypto until now.

I'm personally very scared when the market is at an uptrend, but suddenly there is a dump that causes prices to fall very deep, even lower than when I bought the coin. that's why when prices go up high (more than 15%) I won't buy it. I better not get profit than get stuck by FOMO. while for market manipulation, this is normal. I'm not surprised by this, because I always trade coins that have a large marketcap. so the risk of manipulation is very low. and when there is manipulation I will definitely know.

how about you guys? which makes you scared?

the place of disposal of coins, the reason is almost the same as you. when a coin suddenly rises very high, but then falls dramatically beyond the purchase price, of course our hope to get profit, it will get a deep loss. while in the period of disposal of the coin, recover prices will be very slow, even the worst possibility is the coin will sink and we do not get anything from what we bought before.

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