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Topic: Which USB hub to use with Block Erupters | NanoFury NF1 | BPMC Red Fury | Ant U1 - page 5. (Read 128592 times)

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I've updated the OP with the link and additional info for the 19-porter from Dipo Electronic, sold there through the forums: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4538611

Will post review once I get the unit and a batch of U1 AntMiners. I am going to test it with a mix of three different USB miners, as well as it being hosted by RPi.



Very nice USB Miner hubs, and some new info on the spec for the PSU's (grounded, ungrounded) shielded cables, and some tests to run.

Good stuff, well done.

Now to sell enuf of em to get a price drop Smiley Will do my best.
legendary
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I've updated the OP with the link and additional info for the 19-porter from Dipo Electronic, sold there through the forums: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4538611

Will post review once I get the unit and a batch of U1 AntMiners. I am going to test it with a mix of three different USB miners, as well as it being hosted by RPi.

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All of the USB ASICs conform to USB 2.0 signalling, maybe not the draw amps tho Smiley
USB 3.0 works with some hubs and not others, USB 2.0 is more "Robust" and forgiving for these.
USB 2.0 is a older spec, with mature chips and drivers, allowing more USB devices per machine in most cases.

So if you are going to go ASIC USB, use (the very hard to find, USB 2.0 3a or better powered hubs).
There are few 5v bricks @ 5a and NO really good PS for them have been made.
This is the drawback, USB 2.0 hubs when made (design specs) had NO idea we would need this much current.
12v bricks are dime a dozen. But introduces V3.0 spec to the game.

So we mod the hubs as this thread has proven.

Watts is not a issue for hubs and usb it is all about current draw Amps.

1000watts is 10 old skool bulbs enuf to light a small toolroom or 1200watts is a small ceramic space heater.
You will get a bill for those if ran 24/7 Smiley

USB hubs (even ten of em) pull like 30 watts each or so, wall warts have very low current draw.
Using USB Asics is not a concern, till you get to hundreds of them.

My price point in my head is 2gh for 50 dollars, that is what I aim for.
Ants are getting REAL Close.


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I suck at math... but this should work fine with antminers?

Anker® USB 3.0 7-Port Hub with 1 BC 1.2 Charging Port up to 5V 1.5A, 12V 3A Power Adapter


My plan is to run 6 antminers and artic breeze fan in the charging port #7

Antminer = "1.2 Watt power from the USB port and .5 Amp" - I'm going to assume not overclocked




In reality this will probably only be stable with 4 ants + the fan. ..........If it runs 5 its a bonus.

Damn.. Well least I'll have lower expectations Smiley

If you have access to a killawatt device you will be able to check the power draw and post back here.

I don't have a measuring device like that. Maybe I should get one though.

I will report back, in reality if it does a better job than my current configuration I'll be happy. Just wish I would of saw this thread before I ordered the hub I did.



As you can see the average is much lower than it should be, should be all 2's in the highlighted red box.
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I suck at math... but this should work fine with antminers?

Anker® USB 3.0 7-Port Hub with 1 BC 1.2 Charging Port up to 5V 1.5A, 12V 3A Power Adapter


My plan is to run 6 antminers and artic breeze fan in the charging port #7

Antminer = "1.2 Watt power from the USB port and .5 Amp" - I'm going to assume not overclocked




In reality this will probably only be stable with 4 ants + the fan. ..........If it runs 5 its a bonus.

Damn.. Well least I'll have lower expectations Smiley

If you have access to a killawatt device you will be able to check the power draw and post back here.
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I suck at math... but this should work fine with antminers?

Anker® USB 3.0 7-Port Hub with 1 BC 1.2 Charging Port up to 5V 1.5A, 12V 3A Power Adapter


My plan is to run 6 antminers and artic breeze fan in the charging port #7

Antminer = "1.2 Watt power from the USB port and .5 Amp" - I'm going to assume not overclocked




In reality this will probably only be stable with 4 ants + the fan. ..........If it runs 5 its a bonus.

Damn.. Well least I'll have lower expectations Smiley
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I suck at math... but this should work fine with antminers?

Anker® USB 3.0 7-Port Hub with 1 BC 1.2 Charging Port up to 5V 1.5A, 12V 3A Power Adapter


My plan is to run 6 antminers and artic breeze fan in the charging port #7

Antminer = "1.2 Watt power from the USB port and .5 Amp" - I'm going to assume not overclocked




In reality this will probably only be stable with 4 ants + the fan. ..........If it runs 5 its a bonus.
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Activity: 168
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I suck at math... but this should work fine with antminers?

Anker® USB 3.0 7-Port Hub with 1 BC 1.2 Charging Port up to 5V 1.5A, 12V 3A Power Adapter


My plan is to run 6 antminers and artic breeze fan in the charging port #7

Antminer = "1.2 Watt power from the USB port and .5 Amp" - I'm going to assume not overclocked


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They do alot more work, newer chips pull less power than the older BE's.
Still I allow a max of 1a to each one when in hubs, ie: a 3a 5v 2.0usb hub I would only run 3 or 4.

They will run in ports on the PC well enuf, if the port you pick is not being or hooked to a hub with like mouse keyboard speakers ect attached to it.

Need to map your pc ports to see what built in hubs they use.
Most PCs only have 2 hubs, good PC's have many more. I have one PC with 8 usb hubs to use, as it does not have a Ivy or higher processor and bios to turn on/enable usb3.0. They automagically become usb 2.0 with a higher current load ability.

I am using the 10port cheapos, and modding as shown here, never more than 7 BE's or 5-6 ants will be used.. The hubs PCboard (it is to thin) gets hot from the current and the plastic melts if fully loaded, they are so cheap WHY over load them ?

They or any of the others in this thread were not made for the load we use them at.
Just read and learn how to make do, correctly.

AntMiner 49port IS made for BE's not ants and will accept a very high load, even it has a limit tho, crammin 49 in it and plugin and goin is asking for trouble.

Everything you need to know USB HUB related is in this wonderful thread, somewhere Smiley

More will be posted.. ants kick butt Smiley

OH! and on the Powerbricks that feel "light" may not be cheaply made, just the newer style "switching PS"
quote from a link above by: #Aurum

http://www.apogeekits.com/power_adapter_selection.htm

""Typical AC to DC regulated switching power adapter
 
""While older regulated power adapters are really just like the previously described unregulated transformer type with a linear (analog) voltage regulator built in (and with many of the same limitations), today's modern "switch mode" regulated power adapters are a big step forward in technology. Gone, are the bulky, heavy, heat generating, internal voltage reduction transformers. Replaced by high speed digital switching circuitry that shrinks the overall size and weight, and greatly reduces heat generated "losses", while at the same time, greatly increasing the available output power.""

So keep your head up...
legendary
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Shouldn't they all conform to the USB 2.0 standard of 5V @ 0.5A or is U1 an exception?
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Time to add Antminer U1 to the lists?

Agreed, prolly the best bang for buck stick at this time.
Great info on USB Hubs in this thread, all "Sticks" are the same except power requirements of the plugged in units.
Would like to know draw in amps of the A1 "Antminer sticks" @2gh.
Will be getting some soon.

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between a rock and a block!
Time to add Antminer U1 to the lists?
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i put my printer's adapter and its working fine...i guess hubs need some break offline so that adapters dont get cooked:P

my printer only needs 1500mA at 12v
So a PSU that can now only drive one Erupter will still power that printer.
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i put my printer's adapter and its working fine...i guess hubs need some break offline so that adapters dont get cooked:P
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it has its own power adapter and still seems to be working...light is on

The power supply is cooked.

If you plug in a second device then the indicator on the psu flashes?
If so you need a new PSU.
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it has its own power adapter and still seems to be working...light is on
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i have a 10port orico usb hub and today i noticed the usbs blinking and orico lights not working....i tried removing /adding usbs/fans and the only way that it works is by using only 1 asic usb ...anyone else have the same problem with hubs?

thanks for any help

over cooked psu
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i have a 10port orico usb hub and today i noticed the usbs blinking and orico lights not working....i tried removing /adding usbs/fans and the only way that it works is by using only 1 asic usb ...anyone else have the same problem with hubs?

thanks for any help
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I dunno if anyone is still maintaining the list, but this is a nice cheapish 10 port USB2 hub with decent power..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=orico+10+port+hub&_sop=15

Orico P10-U2-BK USB2 10 Ports 12V 3A £17.99 ($29.31) bought on Amazon UK recently, ships from Hong Kong postage included.

USB2 is good enough for mining. 35 MB/s or 280 Mbit/s is faster than most peoples internet connection.



Has anyone tried this with a Pi?......... USB 2 "should" be ok but with Pi?
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Hi everyone,

I believe I've found the holy grail on USB hubs for miners. Orico makes a 10 port USB 2.0 hub (P10-U2), but never advertises is. I just got in contact with my rep, and will be placing a very large order on them. Cost is going to be significantly lower than any other hub on the list on the front of the page. The PSU is 12v/3a, and is a spitting image of the P10-U3 (which ranges in price from $50 - $65 online).

I should be able to sell them for between $25 - $30 USD including shipping. I am planning on buying at least 100 of them to save a little money on shipping to me (which is likely going to cost about $3 - 5 per unit).

I haven't seen anyone else mention this hub, so I thought I'd speak up. I've had great success with Orico, since they're the ones behind the major favorites like Anker and Satechi.

I bought two of these from Amazon under the Anker label w/4A power supplies back in July. They have been going 24/7 since. Only problem is the push/push type power switch tends to stick down in hot weather and needs an occasional tap on the unit to free it up. The 4A supplies get quite warm but not hot, so I might think the 3A units underpowered.

some comments from earlier this year...............
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