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Who is the right guy to vote if it all depends on their stance on Bitcoin. Can we carefully read in-between the lines?




They are both not in support of bitcoin but are refusing to be outright about it so it doesn't trigger the population whos into bitcoin not to support them, for me, if their victory is crypto dependent then in clear terms, neither of them should win because obviously neither of them will promote crypto currency to thrive in their rule. if i am to vote based on their concerns with cryptocurrency, I'm voting non i will want someone who can state in clear terms their support from crypto currency then we can be sure he mentioned it and to hold him by his words if the need arises.
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these were from the past but I believe a real politician stands his own ground

i would only believe a politician who’s in support of bitcoin if they have been showing support to it even prior to elections what a politician say or do when there is no election at stake is the sincerest and raw he can ever be
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no one hates bitcoin or loves bitcoin more, both move based on their own interests and their party. if you say that trump is quite pro bitcoin, then you should see his statement on bitcoin when he was president, you can see how what he says now is the opposite of what he said before, and now it makes him only use pro-bitcoin for his own interests. and if you say that biden is not pro bitcoin, then you should see how the bitcoin market is currently growing in the us and how bitcoin regulations there are being improved.

so about bitcoin, these two candidates are actually the same, there is no guarantee that trump or biden can make bitcoin better there and not get discrimination.

We can't really know exactly what the two of them are thinking about bitcoin, but you can't take someone's past and judge their present. Everyone has the right and can change their views and that has happened to many people, not just Trump. Additionally, I don't think Biden is taking a fair stance on crypto by trying to increase taxes on miners to 30%, condoning the SEC's aggressive actions against a series of exchanges and crypto companies as well as trying to shut down mixers...If Biden continues to serve as president in the next term, we don't know what other harsh regulations he will introduce to the markets. Meanwhile, Trump will be able to introduce regulations that are friendlier to us.

In a recent interview, Larry Fink said that he is a big believer in Bitcoin after researching it and he also admitted that he was wrong to doubt it five years ago. Do you think Larry Fink is a liar like Trump?


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Let inform you theirs no government that is in support of bitcoin, but individually they might have passions on bitcoin but one or two things will make them not speak out when their assume powers, many countries criticism cryptocurrency mostly Bitcoin and that is not what we will use to campaign against them, so what I really want us to know is that Biden can state what's good about bitcoin why it motive to do so is because they wants people to vote them in office and also Donald Trump maybe speaking good about bitcoin and it's possible that if he assumed office it will not valid bitcoin, so politicians is not something you will give 80% trust.
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I think neither presidential candidate really cares about Bitcoin. What they care about is getting more voters. I think a lot of people from the Bitcoin community like Trump because he made himself seem very pro-Bitcoin. They hope he will do good things for Bitcoin which will make the price go up.

I agree, neither of them likes bitcoin or cryptocurrency at all, the purpose of everything they do and promise is just because they want us to vote for them. But at least former President Trump has publicly supported bitcoin, and if he is elected and fulfills his promises, we will have a chance to develop further. Meanwhile, with the current administration, they are even trying to raise taxes and impose more regulations to slow our growth. So, it is not surprising that more crypto investors expressed support for candidate Trump than the current administration.
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I think neither presidential candidate really cares about Bitcoin. What they care about is getting more voters. I think a lot of people from the Bitcoin community like Trump because he made himself seem very pro-Bitcoin. They hope he will do good things for Bitcoin which will make the price go up.
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At the end of the day, this election is about change.

If you want to stick with the situation that saw Bitcoin go up 500% under president Biden, or do you want to take your changes with radical changes?

Do you want abortion to stay legal in the United States as it has been, or do you want it to be illegal?

People can have different answers to those questions above, but that's what this election boils down to.

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Who is the right guy to vote if it all depends on their stance on Bitcoin. Can we carefully read in-between the lines?

I will vote for Donald Trump as a bitcoin enthusiast and want bitcoin to be at least be more legal and a lawful asset to be used in my country when he comes on seat. Not expecting much though, but given it a trial is now a bad idea at all.

If they were actually the ones who made the tweets,

Biden used the definite statement that he will "never," while Trump just said he is not a fan. Someone who is not a fan can later change their opinions and views on something when they get to understand that thing and then like it.

With "never," you have likely closed any chance to even change your mind, so I'd say Biden has a stronger negative view about bitcoin than Trump has.

The example you point out from those two statements is clearly how every logical person will think when they analyse this statements. They are both politicians, so I won’t take any of their positive thought about bitcoin very serious becaus they can do or say anything in order to their way into that seat. Trump have always been a critics of bitcoin before now, why the sudden change and love for bitcoin when he’s about to contest for presidency again? Don’t you think the massive surge in bitcoin from that time till now made him have a way to lure bitcoin lover to vote him in the upcoming elections too? Maybe I might be thinking too deeply or out of context, but politicians are not to be trusted 100% in my opinion.
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Both these guys are politicians and would most likely do or say what would give them votes at them time. At the time of writing making that post, it might most likely be that saying they're against Bitcoin would have given them more votes or more support, but right now their stance might have changed as we can see with Trump. This doesn't mean they really care about bitcoin, they only truly care about the votes.
I honestly don't care about politicians views on things like this even though they have the power to influence it one way or the other. I believe that whatever they say is for their own interests or interests of their party.
Nether of them can stop bitcoin though. They can only make stricter regulations, but they can't stop it .
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no one hates bitcoin or loves bitcoin more, both move based on their own interests and their party. if you say that trump is quite pro bitcoin, then you should see his statement on bitcoin when he was president, you can see how what he says now is the opposite of what he said before, and now it makes him only use pro-bitcoin for his own interests. and if you say that biden is not pro bitcoin, then you should see how the bitcoin market is currently growing in the us and how bitcoin regulations there are being improved.

so about bitcoin, these two candidates are actually the same, there is no guarantee that trump or biden can make bitcoin better there and not get discrimination.
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Who is the right guy to vote if it all depends on their stance on Bitcoin. Can we carefully read in-between the lines?

I don't care about politicians but it seems their interests in Bitcoin is really playing big impact on it. Like when Trump announced his Vice yesterday, Bitcoin price shoot up because the vice is a Bitcoin maximalist as they say but here are the things I want to say a out Biden and Trump and Bitcoin.

When Trump was in office, he said many bad things about Bitcoin, worst than what Biden is trying to with the crypto regulations they are trying to pass so badly, says a lot of things that crash the Bitcoin market but after he lost the office, he saw the big impact on the people, minted some NFTs on ethereum and now he is calling a big shot to give Bitcoin  a second chance. I hope he doesn't change when he get to the office.

Biden is just trying to be neutral and sometimes do politics and right now, he doesn't know anything than the regulations they are trying to pass but my question is wouldn't Trump do the same when he get to the office, he doesn't rule the US alone and the number of people that does crypto aren't big than the half population of the entire US. I just think we have to wait to see how it will turn out later after the election.
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When it comes to crypto talk of POTUS, I would prefer to have Joe Biden who seems to be more neutral figure in influencing the crypto landscape than have Trump in the driving seat that will see volatility on the raise as his always speculating on anything and everything and an asset such as Bitcoin doesn't need uncertainty at the moment!!!

And besides, Trump coming back will not only affect Crypto but fiat will be impacted with his usual tweets, and conferences... trading is about to get one hell of a bumpy ride!!
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This is a statement of fact or true. All Trump said about cryptocurrency above is true.
  • Not a legal tender (save for El Salvador)
  • Highly volatile
  • If unregulated, it can facilitate illegal deals.
Trump was more open and showed that he knows about cryptocurrency than Biden.
So it becomes increasingly clear who will actually be part of crypto or Bitcoin and who really doesn't know what Bitcoin is and what is in it.

Trump seems more realistic and reveals facts that he should have said,
but certainly does not rule out the possibility of fully supporting him someday.

When the current election is getting hotter and there is a shooting against Trump,
this makes the attention of the American people focused on Trump and Biden helpless.
Obviously, Trump is more of that man who is willing to dive into new ideas, learn new things and diversify. I knew much about him during his election with Hillary. He is bold and audacious. He is able to say big things and find a way to accomplish them among all odds. I learnt that he said something nice about cryptocurrency recently, but many people understood that it was mere pre-election promises. But I have known him as someone who is able to stand and defend his statement anytime.
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This is a statement of fact or true. All Trump said about cryptocurrency above is true.
  • Not a legal tender (save for El Salvador)
  • Highly volatile
  • If unregulated, it can facilitate illegal deals.
Trump was more open and showed that he knows about cryptocurrency than Biden.
So it becomes increasingly clear who will actually be part of crypto or Bitcoin and who really doesn't know what Bitcoin is and what is in it.

Trump seems more realistic and reveals facts that he should have said,
but certainly does not rule out the possibility of fully supporting him someday.

When the current election is getting hotter and there is a shooting against Trump,
this makes the attention of the American people focused on Trump and Biden helpless.
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This is emphatic, expressing total lack of interest and no room to have a rethink about it. Which means, if he has an option to stop bitcoin, he will.



This is a statement of fact or true. All Trump said about cryptocurrency above is true.
  • Not a legal tender (save for El Salvador)
  • Highly volatile
  • If unregulated, it can facilitate illegal deals.
Trump was more open and showed that he knows about cryptocurrency than Biden.
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They are both indirectly not in support of bitcoin. Even if Trump is speaking positively about bitcoin now, that does not mean that he has good intentions for the technology; it's all about standing with something that can help his political agenda. That's all I see here.

The truth is that politicians can't be trusted, they can say something today and the next time they say something different again. His concern about bitcoin right now may not be genuine and we can't really tell if his support for bitcoin is real or not, let me just accept that trump was ignorant about bitcoin in the past but right now maybe he might have gotten a good understanding about bitcoin.
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So if you are casting your vote, it should be based on what you think the person can be able to do to help the country achieve more height and the citizen be more comfortable, not what they promised to do for bitcoin, which I doubt they will even keep their word once they achieve that political office. 
 
Governments hate privacy and anonymity, so anyone standing and representing a government office, especially that of the US, can hardly stand fully with Bitcoin.
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I think vote should be based on capacity,  looking at these contestant and go for the person that has the citizens at hearts.   If we just follow politicians on what they say when elections are by the corners we may end up choosing the wrong leader.  If I'm voting I'll go for the person I know that can make good impact to the life of the people.
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At the end of the day, they're both politicians and would like to get the sentiment of the people that are in Bitcoin.

Trump can say that he's not really into Bitcoin and doesn't like it because of its volatility. Both have generic thoughts about Bitcoin and that were their former.

Now that with the upcoming months, it's important for them to address each issue that should be in favor of them from the people that have read their thoughts oppositely.
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Hate is a strong word. I think both are just very old and thus not in the pro-Bitcoin demographic. That's simply because for the vast majority of their lives, Bitcoin did not exist, and they've obtained their wealth within the traditional economy. Then there's also an issue of Trump being very 'America first', and that entails the USD first. He wants a strong USD, so any other currency is a rival. But he's also shifting policies to gain wider support, becoming more open to the idea of Bitcoin. Meanwhile, Biden is honestly doing I don't know what because he seems unfit to run for presidency and yet does not want to give his party a chance with a different candidate.
Trump does like it, Biden probably has no idea about it. That's the difference between them, I do not think that either hates it and sometimes you do not have to hate something. I believe that Trump likes it, which means that he is not a person who would hate something that benefits him, so he is not a hater and he will do even more than what he has done so far to make more money from crypto, it is going to definitely help with all of it. However, we need to remember that it is not an easy choice, we need to make sure that we are going to end up with a good return one way or another, should be a good deal without a doubt.

I think the best way to go right now would be just focusing on how we could provide some stuff, it is not going to be all that complicated, it is going to end up with Biden not liking as the closest.

However, in that case I do not think that Biden doesn't dislike it neither, he probably has no clue, dude probably doesn't know where he is most of the time and thinking that he is going to hate something he doesn't even understand? I do not think so. This is why we need to realize that life isn't always all that fair, but we could probably do a better job over time than these two, we just need to wait four more years until they are both gone.
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Hate is a strong word. I think both are just very old and thus not in the pro-Bitcoin demographic. That's simply because for the vast majority of their lives, Bitcoin did not exist, and they've obtained their wealth within the traditional economy. Then there's also an issue of Trump being very 'America first', and that entails the USD first. He wants a strong USD, so any other currency is a rival. But he's also shifting policies to gain wider support, becoming more open to the idea of Bitcoin. Meanwhile, Biden is honestly doing I don't know what because he seems unfit to run for presidency and yet does not want to give his party a chance with a different candidate.
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I would say no one should be believe when it comes to crypto. There are bigger issues for them to handle and your voting should not be based on just cryptocurrency.

Politicians can make thousands of promises about anything and everything under the sun. But they may not fulfill such promises after the election. We have many such examples. So focus on the bigger picture while voting.

Of course, we need to look at the big picture before deciding who to vote for, but we're on the bitcoin forum and we are all crypto investors. Therefore, it is understandable that people tend to pay more attention to candidates with a pro-cryptocurrency stance. Many people consider bitcoin and cryptocurrency to be a part of their lives and future, so there is nothing wrong with them relying on this factor to vote for candidates.

There is no guarantee that they will deliver on their promises when elected, but I would rather trust someone who makes promises than support someone who goes public and introduces a series of crypto crackdown regulations.
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