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I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

Not all gambling activities will have a bad impact on work there are times when someone is on break from work and they gather with fellow co-workers and do several gaming sessions to entertain themselves and calm their minds due to busy work.
I have also played several games during my breaks at work and it is true that they can provide fun when the work I have to complete is complicated.

However it all still depends on how we manage our time and can work professionally so that we don't let the gambling we do affect the work we have to complete.

If you able to manage working and gambling at workplace altogether then good for you even though that doesn't mean it is that so simple for others to manage it that way too. There are people that can quickly get carried away that they use extra work time to continue in their gambling at a supposed time when break should be over, and because not everyone has the ability to manage it all together in good thats why organisations frown against gambling at workplace and abhor workers who would want to mix work with gambling because it will most likely affect productiveness of the worker no matter how they may try to be in control of how they gamble.
Fun is necessary at workplace but not with through gambling there's high possibility of a loophole for low productivity no matter what.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 20, 2023, 10:49:37 AM

I think this is too risky most especially if you have family to feed. Even rich people struggle to achieve a balance focus between gambling and a job. How much more those who are going to gamble for a serious money and those who are chasing luck. I think if you are gambling you should make things a balance or else things might go wrong. So treat it just a past time guys don't take it seriously.

But it will still be difficult if they gamble and try to balance everything, especially in gambling, they can lose, which will affect their work. It's best if he doesn't gamble while working and waits until he's finished work and gone home so that if he loses, it won't affect everything because he can go straight to sleep if he can. Playing gambling while working will not work well because we need to focus at work, and we will not see our work become a mess because we experience loss and change our mood while working. So it's best to forget about gambling and focus on your work.

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Quote from: 0t3p0t on October 20, 2023, 10:49:37 AM

I think this is too risky most especially if you have family to feed. Even rich people struggle to achieve a balance focus between gambling and a job. How much more those who are going to gamble for a serious money and those who are chasing luck. I think if you are gambling you should make things a balance or else things might go wrong. So treat it just a past time guys don't take it seriously.

Yes, that's right, I think it's true that it's very risky, especially if it interferes with your work performance and then you get fired just because you're caught gambling. It's not very good if you gamble in your free time in the office, for example, if you're a worker who's always in front of the computer, that doesn't mean you have to make time. to gamble because it will really disturb your concentration even when you are relaxing.

It is not recommended to gamble during work time because obviously it will create other risks apart from losing at gambling, there is also the possibility of being fired and losing your job, don't let that happen, especially if you still have a family who needs to support your life from your job, obviously this is not recommended. recommend gambling at work although everyone can do that but it will not end well in the end.

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I think this is too risky most especially if you have family to feed. Even rich people struggle to achieve a balance focus between gambling and a job. How much more those who are going to gamble for a serious money and those who are chasing luck. I think if you are gambling you should make things a balance or else things might go wrong. So treat it just a past time guys don't take it seriously.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 20, 2023, 09:17:27 AM

I did play on online casinos in my office before. It was the time when I did not have much to do in office. I tried everything actually. I watched movies, played games, did trades, and did some other stuff with my officemates. I have a lot of work experience and this only happened more than a year since I later realized that I should try to make myself busy with something that is work-related.

Both online and peer-to-peer sports betting during work hours are common to me since this doesn't consume a lot of time. However, there were also times when I had to watch games live online or on our office televisions because having a bet makes games more exciting to watch. But of course, I made sure that it wouldn't affect my regular output at work.

I have never done gambling at work, because so far I have never had the experience of working in someone else's place, so I don't know how it is and what the situation is, but if you look at the ethics that needs to be done by a worker doing gambling at time Work is not a good and good thing ethically at work an employee, even though you have a lot of empty time.

Because I am a freelancer and business owner, so gambling on the sidelines of the free time I certainly cannot be categorized into what the OP meant right? Because there are no rules that bind I have to keep the code of ethics of a worker.

But it seems fun for a worker to be naughty and play gambling at work as you do a friend, that's what my workers do, but I scold him and give him a warning. Grin

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Quote from: inthelongrun on October 20, 2023, 09:17:27 AM

I did play on online casinos in my office before. It was the time when I did not have much to do in office. I tried everything actually. I watched movies, played games, did trades, and did some other stuff with my officemates. I have a lot of work experience and this only happened more than a year since I later realized that I should try to make myself busy with something that is work-related.

Both online and peer-to-peer sports betting during work hours are common to me since this doesn't consume a lot of time. However, there were also times when I had to watch games live online or on our office televisions because having a bet makes games more exciting to watch. But of course, I made sure that it wouldn't affect my regular output at work.

Well, it will actually take some level of maturity to not let playing or gambling in office during work hours affect your output in work, for personally, i think its not about the game itself, but the outcome of the game, and that this does not affect your productivity at work also largely depends on the type of work you are doing, although i do have in mind that you mentioned that you mostly do this when you don't have much to do at your office.

But then, let's consider those who pretty busy at work having to spare sometime in-between work to watch a match they probably have betted some reasonable amount of money on, believing that he or she would win the bet, but unluckily, his team lost, and he watched every bit of that match at work. Do you think that the outcome of that game will not somehow, negatively affect that Persons's productivity at work for the rest of that day?, not actually the outcome of the game, but the money he or she lost when he or she already believed that he or she would win the game.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 20, 2023, 09:23:57 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on October 20, 2023, 02:07:53 AM

Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

It is a whole other matter when you have work to do and you gamble and it influences your performance and productivity. Roll Eyes

We are even encouraged to play online Chess at work, because it stimulates your brain and improves your strategic thinking abilities. (obviously when there are no work) Tongue

For a fact, a lot of people do get free time at work that they can use the free time to engage themselves in other things as well but gambling is one of the things that shouldn't be done at work. I said so because gambling is something that requires total attention and sometimes, when you're gambling and loses your money, you'll want to gamble more to reclaim it and on the process of trying to get back the lost money, you won't be conscious of time again. So as a result of unconsciousness of time, one is likely to know when it's time to get back to work again and thereby allowing gambling to affect his work which might likely lead to sack from work

Agree with your thoughts about that since its not good to play at your free time since you might be out of focus due to disturbance that we can possibly encounter while playing on our work place. Much better for that is to use for resting since we can getaway with heavy stress especially if we lose and make sure to regain our energy if we do that. There's a lot of time for gambling and we can do it once we are at home setting on bench and relaxing for sure with this we can focus on the games we play then might gain some good results on gameplays we have done on certain games we engage with.

It will be bad for us if we are really bothered at work with the results shown since our work can really get affected and we might not be productive on our jobs for thinking about those losses

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Quote from: Kakmakr on October 20, 2023, 02:07:53 AM

Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

It is a whole other matter when you have work to do and you gamble and it influences your performance and productivity. Roll Eyes

We are even encouraged to play online Chess at work, because it stimulates your brain and improves your strategic thinking abilities. (obviously when there are no work) Tongue

For a fact, a lot of people do get free time at work that they can use the free time to engage themselves in other things as well but gambling is one of the things that shouldn't be done at work. I said so because gambling is something that requires total attention and sometimes, when you're gambling and loses your money, you'll want to gamble more to reclaim it and on the process of trying to get back the lost money, you won't be conscious of time again. So as a result of unconsciousness of time, one is likely to know when it's time to get back to work again and thereby allowing gambling to affect his work which might likely lead to sack from work

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I did play on online casinos in my office before. It was the time when I did not have much to do in office. I tried everything actually. I watched movies, played games, did trades, and did some other stuff with my officemates. I have a lot of work experience and this only happened more than a year since I later realized that I should try to make myself busy with something that is work-related.

Both online and peer-to-peer sports betting during work hours are common to me since this doesn't consume a lot of time. However, there were also times when I had to watch games live online or on our office televisions because having a bet makes games more exciting to watch. But of course, I made sure that it wouldn't affect my regular output at work.

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Quote from: noorman0 on October 13, 2023, 03:43:51 AM

Gambling while working shows how messed up your gambling habits are, you actually can't control your tendency to gamble even in a place that won't give you comfort.

I don't think we should first think about the negative effects in work relationships, I mean between you and your boss or coworkers. As effects on yourself, it will threaten your position as an employee or disrupt your professionalism status in the eyes of others.

This will only depend on our job positions. If we are destined in the field, or anything where computers and phones are away. We can't do much even if we are addicted in gambling. But, if your position is working at the office, there is always a chance that you will sneak into a gambling website. Maybe some or most companies put a site restriction but a techy person can easily bypass it.

This is wrong and risky so they should control their selves even if it's hard and if they still value their work. The last thing that you said seems the same. It's always better to think negatively when it comes to gambling or similar so that we can avoid it easily if our goal is to focus on a much important activity.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 20, 2023, 02:24:37 AM

Quote from: Rabata on October 19, 2023, 12:19:09 PM

Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

Not all gambling activities will have a bad impact on work there are times when someone is on break from work and they gather with fellow co-workers and do several gaming sessions to entertain themselves and calm their minds due to busy work.
I have also played several games during my breaks at work and it is true that they can provide fun when the work I have to complete is complicated.

However it all still depends on how we manage our time and can work professionally so that we don't let the gambling we do affect the work we have to complete.

Obviously if they are gambling during breaks then it won't interfere with their work at all, maybe they just want to find a little entertainment because they are tired from work, so I think it's normal - it's normal for some people to do. But I think the problem is when you're at work and your work is not too busy like guarding a shop or whatever and then you gamble on your cell phone, well that would be a problem where surely your focus will be disturbed there and if your boss sees it then surely they will scold you, maybe that will have an impact on your work.

I think if we can find the right time to gamble it doesn't matter, as we discussed above that gambling during break time is fine - what is important is not to interfere with your more important activities such as work. But well it depends on themselves also in managing the time and in my opinion even if it's in the break time I think you better avoid it, because it is very likely that you get emotional when the final result is not as expected then surely at least you will work with an upset state of mind and that can interfere with your focus at work, that's all.

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But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

I strongly agree with your points on a gambling employee not being fired immediately except its stated in their terms and conditions, but on overall, its unethical except its what they're being employed to do.

On the other hand, winning in gambling should be shared, although I don't agree with the ratio.

The winnings must be shared but what is to be withdrawn should be much higher, if its in ratio, then it should be 2:1 of what was won. Remember, there has been series of possibles losses prior and has to be covered for, in most cases.

Covering those losses is a difficult thing to do. Remember, we won't be able to win too often, especially if we gamble. We will lose more than we win. That's what keeps us in a state of loss.

Those who work should not gamble at work. After all, they weren't relaxing and it was a workplace. They can lose focus at work, which will interfere with their performance that day. And that can also carry over until it's time for them to go home.

And if they gamble to the point of using up family money, they will run into trouble sooner or later. If they lost all their money, it would be clear that their family's financial position would suffer. They don't buy their daily necessities because they have lost that money.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on October 20, 2023, 02:07:53 AM

Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

While I agree with you in that statement above I am highly convinced that toxic managers would love to see someone doing just that so they can have a lot of details regarding that person playing Chess or Solitaire when they will go ask a promotion for themselves they will use that person as an example of how a good of work they are doing that they don't leave anything going unnoticed by them.

I also agree that the work shift should be changed to six hours as the most productive worker as they say in US has a maximum of 4 work productivity by day and in that other time they can gamble or do whatever they like.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 10:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

Not all gambling activities will have a bad impact on work there are times when someone is on break from work and they gather with fellow co-workers and do several gaming sessions to entertain themselves and calm their minds due to busy work.
I have also played several games during my breaks at work and it is true that they can provide fun when the work I have to complete is complicated.

However it all still depends on how we manage our time and can work professionally so that we don't let the gambling we do affect the work we have to complete.

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Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

It is a whole other matter when you have work to do and you gamble and it influences your performance and productivity. Roll Eyes

We are even encouraged to play online Chess at work, because it stimulates your brain and improves your strategic thinking abilities. (obviously when there are no work) Tongue

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Quote from: knowngunman on October 19, 2023, 12:35:57 PM

But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

I strongly agree with your points on a gambling employee not being fired immediately except its stated in their terms and conditions, but on overall, its unethical except its what they're being employed to do.

On the other hand, winning in gambling should be shared, although I don't agree with the ratio.

The winnings must be shared but what is to be withdrawn should be much higher, if its in ratio, then it should be 2:1 of what was won. Remember, there has been series of possibles losses prior and has to be covered for, in most cases.

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That's why I'd like to tell you again what I've talked about many times here. Gambling is simply greed. And the way to overcome or limit that greed is to set aside a certain amount of your salary or income - it could be 10 to 20 percent. By taking such a precaution, even if you lose, you will be able to carry on with the rest of your money for the rest of your life because you have lost the amount you could have risked. When you invest all of your salary here for the sake of making a quick profit, it will start to turn into a quagmire. You will start losing and losing and losing and you will start to collapse. This will affect not only your work performance but also your enjoyment, excitement and happiness in your daily life and everything connected to it.

Yes, I agree with you that gambling is something that must be limited otherwise gambling will waste as much of our money as possible with continuous losses, playing gambling must use money that we can afford to lose, namely a small amount from the results of our hard work gain, so that when we experience defeat and the money we have limited runs out we will stop for a moment without thinking about the defeat that just happened, this is self-discipline and will make us responsible gamblers so that the potential for gambling addiction will be avoided in us.

Gambling can give you the same pleasure as some games or activities, but it is important to remember that the risk of losing is likely to be higher in gambling than in others. When you ignore this and play with all your money, you don't know what to do with the rest of your time. It will start to set you back, both health-wise and financially. To be honest, it doesn't make sense to me to spend the money you have worked hard for a month and earned in return in one day. For this, you can also turn to gambling after saving every month. When you lose at gambling, this time you will say that it was the money I had already allocated for gambling and you will move on. In this way, you will not have problems for the rest of your life and you will have done your pleasure.

It seems like everyone who has a job and only gets a salary every month will definitely be more careful when they want to gamble because if they are not careful, they will definitely lose the money easily and they will regret it because the results of his hard work for a month wasted in vain.
but there is also people who think of gambling as an additional result for example they have a job but they want to increase their income from gambling, this can be done but we cannot have high expectations because gambling does not always provide the results or profits we expect but if we really dare to speculate and bear risks such as sports betting can definitely make money there but still be careful in betting because not all sports betting is accurate we have to bet in small amounts and still use limits even with small bets even if we only make small profits if we are diligent we will make there's a lot of money there with that initial capital.

In order not to experience this, a person addicted to gambling should save regularly every month.
Because if he plays with the money he is currently working and earning, he can lose what he has earned in 1 month by investing a large amount of money to recover it when he loses. I'm always in favor of risk management, so assuming that we do, for example, we are really addicted to gambling and we actually just enjoy it. We must first tell ourselves that this is an area that has the potential to make us lose most of our money. After explaining it, you need to set aside 10 percent or maximum 20 percent. After that, it will be trouble for you. Of course, you need to adjust the percentage of your money yourself. Because we are the ones who are aware of how much you spend and what you are aiming for.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 10:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Let me tell you, the feeling is far from pleasant. It leads to a decline in your work performance, which can have significant consequences since that's your primary source of income. It might be manageable if you're winning, but the harsh reality is often quite the opposite. Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

I would not ever think of something as irresponsible as gambling at work. Because its not allowed and it is very unprofessional to do in a place that is paying you to provide a certain service. To me that just seems false and dishonest. And even insulting to the person who hired you and pays you.

If someone gets to the point of needing to gamble everywhere, at work, on the toilet, etc. then that is a definite problem and a serious sign of gambling addiction. That person needs to stop gambling and keep away from addictive habits.

Otherwise things will not turn out fine for them.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on October 19, 2023, 06:08:15 AM

Gambling at work is the most disastrous thing one can think of doing.

Imagine gambling at work and during working hours and your superiors gets to find out, it doesn't matter whether or not you just got started that day or you have been there, their assumption is that you don't put in time into your work and you also indulge in unethical engagements at duty, the office can even be into gambling for a service, you will loose your job instantly.

No, this is not applicable to all works. It depends on the nature of your work and how tolerant your employer is. First of all, is it stated in your company rules that gambling is prohibited? Before we can conclude that it's unethical. Secondly, is your performance at place of work declining due to gambling? I agree that gambling at place of work during working hours is bad and can cause distraction but it is not enough reason to fire employee instantly without issuing warning unless it's agreed upon the commencement of service there.

Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 10:52:01 PM

Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on October 19, 2023, 06:08:15 AM

Gambling at work is the most disastrous thing one can think of doing.

Imagine gambling at work and during working hours and your superiors gets to find out, it doesn't matter whether or not you just got started that day or you have been there, their assumption is that you don't put in time into your work and you also indulge in unethical engagements at duty, the office can even be into gambling for a service, you will loose your job instantly.

Situations like this may lead to termination. This is why people should know and realize that during working hours, focusing on your work tasks would be the best thing to do. Instead of taking the risk of losing the job, might be better to aim to be one of the top-performing employees at work. Any other activity especially gambling will put your job at risk. Aside from that, imagine if you lose in gambling, the salary you earned that day will only go to gambling.

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