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Quote from: noorman0 on October 13, 2023, 02:43:51 AM

Gambling while working shows how messed up your gambling habits are, you actually can't control your tendency to gamble even in a place that won't give you comfort.

I don't think we should first think about the negative effects in work relationships, I mean between you and your boss or coworkers. As effects on yourself, it will threaten your position as an employee or disrupt your professionalism status in the eyes of others.

This will only depend on our job positions. If we are destined in the field, or anything where computers and phones are away. We can't do much even if we are addicted in gambling. But, if your position is working at the office, there is always a chance that you will sneak into a gambling website. Maybe some or most companies put a site restriction but a techy person can easily bypass it.

This is wrong and risky so they should control their selves even if it's hard and if they still value their work. The last thing that you said seems the same. It's always better to think negatively when it comes to gambling or similar so that we can avoid it easily if our goal is to focus on a much important activity.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on October 20, 2023, 01:24:37 AM

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Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

Not all gambling activities will have a bad impact on work there are times when someone is on break from work and they gather with fellow co-workers and do several gaming sessions to entertain themselves and calm their minds due to busy work.
I have also played several games during my breaks at work and it is true that they can provide fun when the work I have to complete is complicated.

However it all still depends on how we manage our time and can work professionally so that we don't let the gambling we do affect the work we have to complete.

Obviously if they are gambling during breaks then it won't interfere with their work at all, maybe they just want to find a little entertainment because they are tired from work, so I think it's normal - it's normal for some people to do. But I think the problem is when you're at work and your work is not too busy like guarding a shop or whatever and then you gamble on your cell phone, well that would be a problem where surely your focus will be disturbed there and if your boss sees it then surely they will scold you, maybe that will have an impact on your work.

I think if we can find the right time to gamble it doesn't matter, as we discussed above that gambling during break time is fine - what is important is not to interfere with your more important activities such as work. But well it depends on themselves also in managing the time and in my opinion even if it's in the break time I think you better avoid it, because it is very likely that you get emotional when the final result is not as expected then surely at least you will work with an upset state of mind and that can interfere with your focus at work, that's all.

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Quote from: knowngunman on October 19, 2023, 11:35:57 AM

But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

I strongly agree with your points on a gambling employee not being fired immediately except its stated in their terms and conditions, but on overall, its unethical except its what they're being employed to do.

On the other hand, winning in gambling should be shared, although I don't agree with the ratio.

The winnings must be shared but what is to be withdrawn should be much higher, if its in ratio, then it should be 2:1 of what was won. Remember, there has been series of possibles losses prior and has to be covered for, in most cases.

Covering those losses is a difficult thing to do. Remember, we won't be able to win too often, especially if we gamble. We will lose more than we win. That's what keeps us in a state of loss.

Those who work should not gamble at work. After all, they weren't relaxing and it was a workplace. They can lose focus at work, which will interfere with their performance that day. And that can also carry over until it's time for them to go home.

And if they gamble to the point of using up family money, they will run into trouble sooner or later. If they lost all their money, it would be clear that their family's financial position would suffer. They don't buy their daily necessities because they have lost that money.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on October 20, 2023, 01:07:53 AM

Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

While I agree with you in that statement above I am highly convinced that toxic managers would love to see someone doing just that so they can have a lot of details regarding that person playing Chess or Solitaire when they will go ask a promotion for themselves they will use that person as an example of how a good of work they are doing that they don't leave anything going unnoticed by them.

I also agree that the work shift should be changed to six hours as the most productive worker as they say in US has a maximum of 4 work productivity by day and in that other time they can gamble or do whatever they like.

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Quote from: Rabata on October 19, 2023, 11:19:09 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

Not all gambling activities will have a bad impact on work there are times when someone is on break from work and they gather with fellow co-workers and do several gaming sessions to entertain themselves and calm their minds due to busy work.
I have also played several games during my breaks at work and it is true that they can provide fun when the work I have to complete is complicated.

However it all still depends on how we manage our time and can work professionally so that we don't let the gambling we do affect the work we have to complete.

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Most people are not 100% busy at work, because you only stay active.. if there are work that needs to be done. So, I see no issue with people gambling or playing Chess or Solitaire or whatever in their idle time.

It is a whole other matter when you have work to do and you gamble and it influences your performance and productivity. Roll Eyes

We are even encouraged to play online Chess at work, because it stimulates your brain and improves your strategic thinking abilities. (obviously when there are no work) Tongue

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Quote from: knowngunman on October 19, 2023, 11:35:57 AM

But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

I strongly agree with your points on a gambling employee not being fired immediately except its stated in their terms and conditions, but on overall, its unethical except its what they're being employed to do.

On the other hand, winning in gambling should be shared, although I don't agree with the ratio.

The winnings must be shared but what is to be withdrawn should be much higher, if its in ratio, then it should be 2:1 of what was won. Remember, there has been series of possibles losses prior and has to be covered for, in most cases.

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That's why I'd like to tell you again what I've talked about many times here. Gambling is simply greed. And the way to overcome or limit that greed is to set aside a certain amount of your salary or income - it could be 10 to 20 percent. By taking such a precaution, even if you lose, you will be able to carry on with the rest of your money for the rest of your life because you have lost the amount you could have risked. When you invest all of your salary here for the sake of making a quick profit, it will start to turn into a quagmire. You will start losing and losing and losing and you will start to collapse. This will affect not only your work performance but also your enjoyment, excitement and happiness in your daily life and everything connected to it.

Yes, I agree with you that gambling is something that must be limited otherwise gambling will waste as much of our money as possible with continuous losses, playing gambling must use money that we can afford to lose, namely a small amount from the results of our hard work gain, so that when we experience defeat and the money we have limited runs out we will stop for a moment without thinking about the defeat that just happened, this is self-discipline and will make us responsible gamblers so that the potential for gambling addiction will be avoided in us.

Gambling can give you the same pleasure as some games or activities, but it is important to remember that the risk of losing is likely to be higher in gambling than in others. When you ignore this and play with all your money, you don't know what to do with the rest of your time. It will start to set you back, both health-wise and financially. To be honest, it doesn't make sense to me to spend the money you have worked hard for a month and earned in return in one day. For this, you can also turn to gambling after saving every month. When you lose at gambling, this time you will say that it was the money I had already allocated for gambling and you will move on. In this way, you will not have problems for the rest of your life and you will have done your pleasure.

It seems like everyone who has a job and only gets a salary every month will definitely be more careful when they want to gamble because if they are not careful, they will definitely lose the money easily and they will regret it because the results of his hard work for a month wasted in vain.
but there is also people who think of gambling as an additional result for example they have a job but they want to increase their income from gambling, this can be done but we cannot have high expectations because gambling does not always provide the results or profits we expect but if we really dare to speculate and bear risks such as sports betting can definitely make money there but still be careful in betting because not all sports betting is accurate we have to bet in small amounts and still use limits even with small bets even if we only make small profits if we are diligent we will make there's a lot of money there with that initial capital.

In order not to experience this, a person addicted to gambling should save regularly every month.
Because if he plays with the money he is currently working and earning, he can lose what he has earned in 1 month by investing a large amount of money to recover it when he loses. I'm always in favor of risk management, so assuming that we do, for example, we are really addicted to gambling and we actually just enjoy it. We must first tell ourselves that this is an area that has the potential to make us lose most of our money. After explaining it, you need to set aside 10 percent or maximum 20 percent. After that, it will be trouble for you. Of course, you need to adjust the percentage of your money yourself. Because we are the ones who are aware of how much you spend and what you are aiming for.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Let me tell you, the feeling is far from pleasant. It leads to a decline in your work performance, which can have significant consequences since that's your primary source of income. It might be manageable if you're winning, but the harsh reality is often quite the opposite. Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

I would not ever think of something as irresponsible as gambling at work. Because its not allowed and it is very unprofessional to do in a place that is paying you to provide a certain service. To me that just seems false and dishonest. And even insulting to the person who hired you and pays you.

If someone gets to the point of needing to gamble everywhere, at work, on the toilet, etc. then that is a definite problem and a serious sign of gambling addiction. That person needs to stop gambling and keep away from addictive habits.

Otherwise things will not turn out fine for them.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on October 19, 2023, 05:08:15 AM

Gambling at work is the most disastrous thing one can think of doing.

Imagine gambling at work and during working hours and your superiors gets to find out, it doesn't matter whether or not you just got started that day or you have been there, their assumption is that you don't put in time into your work and you also indulge in unethical engagements at duty, the office can even be into gambling for a service, you will loose your job instantly.

No, this is not applicable to all works. It depends on the nature of your work and how tolerant your employer is. First of all, is it stated in your company rules that gambling is prohibited? Before we can conclude that it's unethical. Secondly, is your performance at place of work declining due to gambling? I agree that gambling at place of work during working hours is bad and can cause distraction but it is not enough reason to fire employee instantly without issuing warning unless it's agreed upon the commencement of service there.

Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

But I think we all agree to have gambling budget aside from our main budget for the family. I know it is hard to stick to the plan some time but if you engage in gambling with money meant for family budget, you'll end up in financial crisis. We lost all the money budgeted for gambling that week or month as the case may be, it's better you take a break for a while until you make another budget to start over again. Winning should always be divided into two, one part for personal use while the other for gambling budget again.

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Quote from: wallet4bitcoin on October 19, 2023, 05:08:15 AM

Gambling at work is the most disastrous thing one can think of doing.

Imagine gambling at work and during working hours and your superiors gets to find out, it doesn't matter whether or not you just got started that day or you have been there, their assumption is that you don't put in time into your work and you also indulge in unethical engagements at duty, the office can even be into gambling for a service, you will loose your job instantly.

Situations like this may lead to termination. This is why people should know and realize that during working hours, focusing on your work tasks would be the best thing to do. Instead of taking the risk of losing the job, might be better to aim to be one of the top-performing employees at work. Any other activity especially gambling will put your job at risk. Aside from that, imagine if you lose in gambling, the salary you earned that day will only go to gambling.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Completely true, If gambling is done during work, it can certainly have its effects. When you are regularly involved in a job, you will lose focus on your work while placing any new bets. Your mind will be in one place where the work output will definitely be hindered. If you lose a bet at that time your work will be affected the most. Every month when you lose the bet after receiving certain amount from job then you have to spend the whole month very badly. You will be tensed for money. And work performance cannot be expected at that time. Gambling should never be done on the job hour as it may affect personal life.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

Let me tell you, the feeling is far from pleasant. It leads to a decline in your work performance, which can have significant consequences since that's your primary source of income. It might be manageable if you're winning, but the harsh reality is often quite the opposite. Even when we do win, we tend to spend most of our winnings, so we don't treat it as business money. This leaves us in a precarious situation when we lose because the money we initially budgeted for our families gets diverted to cover unexpected gambling-related expenses.

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

One thing I don't joke with is any attempt or element that try to disrupt my main source of income, I make sure I completely eliminate it from my life. Yes, I said what I said, if the source of income is gone today, there will be no opportunity to gamble anymore and there will not be money to feed again. You ought to have think of that and forget gambling completely because if we check your gambling history, I doubt if your gambling income will exceed your place of work income.

Furthermore, what did you take gambling? You think it's a place where you can wake up and do some magic and then double, tribe and X your wager, no. As you are thinking of the winning side, you should also think of the losing side because for every winning that you take from casino, they expect or want you to give it back in the future, that's how they profit and you want to take that all from them Grin

Another thing you should consider is break, yes take a break. It's good for the body, help relax the body and makes you productive. You don't have to gamble all the time if you don't want to start having nemesis of too much loss from gambling, you need to strike a balance between your work, your free time and gambling time.

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Quote from: lalabotax on October 15, 2023, 04:41:32 PM

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My job and gambling, which is important? Of course, I'll choose my job because it's consistent in paying my bills at the end of the month, unlike gambling that is risky and unreliable to depend on.

this is a very valid reason. No matter how much we like gambling, no matter how big it is, we must not let it interfere with our work. because it is impossible if we to gamble while working, the results of our work can still be as good as without us doing gambling activities. because our focus will be divided. Moreover, if we experience losses when playing gambling while working then it will certainly really disturb our concentration and focus. so that the results of our work will decrease and not be optimal. If that's the case and our boss is disappointed then we will also be the ones who lose. and if they find out, our position will be threatened and we will be fired. So it's better to divide your time wisely when to gamble and when to work.

I go in line with that thought and also respect the official guidelines for workers and one of the rules in my office is that no one does other things aside from the official duties that brought you to the office, and also if caught in the middle of that, you may be sacked so it do better to stay off the gambling while at work and only play games when at home.

So better stay off and work instead of distracting your official schedule to gamble at some point.

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Quote from: dothebeats on October 15, 2023, 09:33:55 AM

Playing something even if it's not gambling during work hours is definitely the best possible way to lose a job FAST. I don't really know why you get to ask these very weird questions. I mean, why would anyone in their sane mind will decide to just randomly gamble at their workplace? What difference will it make when you gamble at home? If you have a poor work ethic, quit the job and do something else that would make you money, then gamble to your heart's content.

The only game that we can play are the ones who came from the company or to our managers and bosses. Maybe there's also bosses and managers who are not strict enough and can allow us to do non-job related activities on our vacant time?

OP might only be bored at work, that is why he asked it or thinks it's a good idea to gamble during working hours. That is the difference of gambling at our workplace from our home. Another would be is ; it gives extra excitement because we may get caught out and get a violation. If he have a poor work ethic, maybe operating a business will fit better at him. The goodness of it is; he can play gambling anytime because he himself is the boss.

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Gambling at work is the most disastrous thing one can think of doing.

Imagine gambling at work and during working hours and your superiors gets to find out, it doesn't matter whether or not you just got started that day or you have been there, their assumption is that you don't put in time into your work and you also indulge in unethical engagements at duty, the office can even be into gambling for a service, you will loose your job instantly.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to share my experience with you all. Even though I'm not currently employed, I went through a phase of gambling while I was working in the past, and the outcome wasn't positive. It affected my job performance because, as you may know, when you lose, you tend to dwell on your losses and constantly think about strategies to win. When we talk about work, it usually means we're not particularly wealthy, and imagine what happens when we gamble money we can't afford to lose, especially when we're not earning much.

OP although it all depends on the individual mindset on how they handle there gambling emotion if losing, because that's one of the reasons people should gamble with the little they no will not affect them if they lose, so boiling down to what you are saying, a gambler could only be easily affected if they use a huge amount of money that would have been use to take care of other serious needs in there family for gambling and when they losses it seriously affect there working performance because they could be thinking about what the money would have done for them if they had not gamble with it.

Gambling has really done more harm than good to most of the people, because we no that whenever we gamble with a big amount and losses, immediately our moon changes and at that moment you may not be thinking straight and if your job is a technical job there is every possibility of making a mistake and could cost you your job.

So like I said the best gambling practice to help you remain calm even when losing is gambling with the little money that cannot affect you if losses.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 12, 2023, 09:52:01 PM

I'd like to hear from those of you who have experienced this or are still dealing with it. Please share your testimonies.

I have never gambled while working in an office, but what you said is true that gambling can damage our concentration a little when we do it when we have to do other important things, so not only when working in the office, but also when there are students who gamble on the sidelines. doing campus assignments will be annoying because often gamblers will find it difficult to stop whatever the result is unless the money in the casino has run out, so when they lose they will always be curious and when they win they will always think this is a lucky time so it is almost difficult to stop. It's better to gamble when you have free time, so it's not on the sidelines of important activities because it can disturb our focus and can make us make the wrong decisions, for example, because we're upset about losing and increasing our bets until the money runs out quickly.

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That's why I'd like to tell you again what I've talked about many times here. Gambling is simply greed. And the way to overcome or limit that greed is to set aside a certain amount of your salary or income - it could be 10 to 20 percent. By taking such a precaution, even if you lose, you will be able to carry on with the rest of your money for the rest of your life because you have lost the amount you could have risked. When you invest all of your salary here for the sake of making a quick profit, it will start to turn into a quagmire. You will start losing and losing and losing and you will start to collapse. This will affect not only your work performance but also your enjoyment, excitement and happiness in your daily life and everything connected to it.

Yes, I agree with you that gambling is something that must be limited otherwise gambling will waste as much of our money as possible with continuous losses, playing gambling must use money that we can afford to lose, namely a small amount from the results of our hard work gain, so that when we experience defeat and the money we have limited runs out we will stop for a moment without thinking about the defeat that just happened, this is self-discipline and will make us responsible gamblers so that the potential for gambling addiction will be avoided in us.

Gambling can give you the same pleasure as some games or activities, but it is important to remember that the risk of losing is likely to be higher in gambling than in others. When you ignore this and play with all your money, you don't know what to do with the rest of your time. It will start to set you back, both health-wise and financially. To be honest, it doesn't make sense to me to spend the money you have worked hard for a month and earned in return in one day. For this, you can also turn to gambling after saving every month. When you lose at gambling, this time you will say that it was the money I had already allocated for gambling and you will move on. In this way, you will not have problems for the rest of your life and you will have done your pleasure.

It seems like everyone who has a job and only gets a salary every month will definitely be more careful when they want to gamble because if they are not careful, they will definitely lose the money easily and they will regret it because the results of his hard work for a month wasted in vain.
but there is also people who think of gambling as an additional result for example they have a job but they want to increase their income from gambling, this can be done but we cannot have high expectations because gambling does not always provide the results or profits we expect but if we really dare to speculate and bear risks such as sports betting can definitely make money there but still be careful in betting because not all sports betting is accurate we have to bet in small amounts and still use limits even with small bets even if we only make small profits if we are diligent we will make there's a lot of money there with that initial capital.

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Quote from: lalabotax on October 15, 2023, 04:41:32 PM

Quote from: Josefjix on October 15, 2023, 03:33:51 PM

My job and gambling, which is important? Ofcourse I'll choose my job because it's consistent in paying my bills at the end of the month unlike gambling that's risky and unreliable to depend on.

this is a very valid reason. No matter how much we like gambling, no matter how big it is, we must not let it interfere with our work. because it is impossible if we gamble while working, the results of our work can still be as good as without us doing gambling activities. because our focus will be divided. Moreover, if we experience losses when playing gambling while working then it will certainly really disturb our concentration and focus. so that the results of our work will decrease and not be optimal. If that's the case and our boss is disappointed then we will also be the ones who lose. and if they find out, our position will be threatened and we will be fired. So it's better to divide your time wisely when to gamble and when to work.

Gambling at work could be counted for an unseriousness and that just what it means because you can't serve two masters at the same time, work on itself needed one's attention and same also is gambling, i believe most jobs as well ro have their own requirements as well for their employees to follow, part of it is that you may not be allowed to use the phone while at work, if caught you might loose the job.

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