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Quote from: 2chase on January 30, 2019, 06:06:07 PM

There are two radically opposite points of view on this matter - some people believe that whales control the market, and the second category of people believes that no one controls the market at all. I think both of these opinions are wrong. As usual, the truth is always in the middle

Half truths are worse than outright lies

If the truth is in the middle, it pretty much means that whales are still controlling the market (maybe, to a somewhat lesser degree). And there is nothing wrong or surprising in it. If you have enough financial leverage, it would be plain stupid not to exploit it to your advantage. And this is equally applicable to any market, not just crypto. In 1980 the Hunt brothers tried to corner the silver market. Ultimately they failed, and that's likely the reason we heard about them at all. If they succeeded, they would likely have remained unknown to the wider public as silence is the sound of money talking

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There are two radically opposite points of view on this matter - some people believe that whales control the market, and the second category of people believes that no one controls the market at all. I think both of these opinions are wrong. As usual, the truth is always in the middle.

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obviously no one control bitcoin price and if you are talking about price fall it is because of some government and some counties rejecting bitcoin , and other policy and sentiments causes price fluctuation

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Quote from: Maricel2017 on October 02, 2018, 12:49:53 AM

The investors, i, you, we are the one who control the market because the crypto value fluctuates because of us, the demand in the market will make the value of coin increasing and now market are experience big dump because there are many big investors fulling our their investment due to they are predicting that crypto will not exist more than a decade.

tor very precise and correct that you submit in my opinion the development of crypto currencies and markets that influence the invader itself

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The government controls the forces of supply and demand,such as who is allowed to enter the market or what prices may be charge.Also from an economic perspective,institutional and retail investors control the market through what is essentially supply and demand.

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The market is controlled by big holders of bitcoin and positive news and more importantly wall street investors one tweet can bring thousands of bitcoins to market

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Quote from: astik1 on January 30, 2019, 09:05:33 AM

Most of popular exchange are centralized and that's why they are trying to build up their own DEX for lesser issues regarding what the crypto community is discussing. Some of them are abusing their power to influence the market but to have total control of the market it has been said that the whales are doing it.

not all exchanges manipulated price.some of them to be honest operate their exchanges.and its proved several exchanges on korea passed audit from their goverment.its shows to us centralize exchanges not always bad.

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Most of popular exchange are centralized and that's why they are trying to build up their own DEX for lesser issues regarding what the crypto community is discussing. Some of them are abusing their power to influence the market but to have total control of the market it has been said that the whales are doing it.

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Quote from: Yara1 on November 18, 2018, 09:49:21 AM

In most cases user don't care if a currency is decentralizes of not all they look out for is how the currency is able to offer the easy and secured access to transactions across platform and when it come to crypto currency what control the market is the market force of demands.

The market is control by specific number people, I think those investors and holders are the one who are making the price high day by day, when in market most of people sell their coin so it makes the price down a little, but when high amount of people use to buy so it makes the price high once again, it is just my own thinking some people says huge company investors are actually controlling the market.

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As you have rigthly stated, the market is decentralized, but control by investors in the cryptocurrency space, the higher your stake the more influence you have to control the market trend, reason why the whales in the space have more control power, as the space evolve Government might have power to regulate the space with a level of control.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on October 01, 2018, 03:58:24 PM

Most of the people don't care if a currency is decentralized or not and don't what it means too. They are just interested to make profits, no matter how. They jump on the new flower of the month, invest some cash and sit down until the flower blooms.
How it works, or what it is exactly doesn't matter to them

Yeah, people only care about profits. No one cares whether the coin is decentralized or centralized, mineable or pre-mined. The majority of people don't give a shit about building a conducive environment for cryptocurrency, all they care about is their pockets.

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No doubt Markets are controlled by few people, using their greed and influence can really hurt this market and that’s the sad truth. Just like what happen few days ago during Bitcoin cash fork that hashwar thing, I don’t fully understand that argument but that is so immature to see dev’s fighting on twitter for dominance, its just so immature seeing them doing that, that’s why some investors lose their confidence in crypto that contributes to massive dumped.

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In most cases user don't care if a currency is decentralizes of not all they look out for is how the currency is able to offer the easy and secured access to transactions across platform and when it come to crypto currency what control the market is the market force of demands.

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Quote from: junglist.massive on November 18, 2018, 09:20:54 AM

In general, the market is influenced by demand, supply and market ratios, but without us knowing many large whales could give an impact on the market whether the price increased or decreased. So on the other hand we can only follow what the whales want for profits from the market. We can’t stop the whales who keep taking greater profits and become even richer.

There is no easy and fast money here. Just luck and opportunity for one to become rich. Figure out if how many people had become rich because of cryptocurrency. Probably those team that are running away with the money they collected in the ICO. So, those people were probably in the first of the list on getting rich.

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In general, the market is influenced by demand, supply and market ratios, but without us knowing many large whales could give an impact on the market whether the price increased or decreased. So on the other hand we can only follow what the whales want for profits from the market. We can’t stop the whales who keep taking greater profits and become even richer.

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Quote from: slivver on October 01, 2018, 11:36:56 AM

Remember, this whole thing about crypto is largely decentralized, thus, there is no single authoritative body in control of the crypto market. Although there are few centralized platforms among crypto, the market is largely influenced by the efforts and influence of the users of crypto. How well sellers and buyers treat the coins on the market affect the performance of the market.

I am thinking about an invisible hand that can control the market but I am not sure about this.what do you guys think about this?

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Quote from: wingsthegreat21 on November 16, 2018, 12:32:06 PM

I think for me cryptomarket is impossible to control directly its just that we have to give thanks to decentralization but I do have this impression that market could be controlled indirectly by some group of big people who influence media and because of this that through media they may direct opinions of inexperienced traders and give some best insights on how this cryptocurrency works.

You definitely proof your point about some group of power people which usually inluence the crypto currency market by making false news in other to cause panic the crypto market but I want you to know that there are also others group that manipulate the price through dumping of their huge holding. However, we need to understand that the whole crypto currency are not totally decentralized.

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Quote from: wahyu wida on November 16, 2018, 09:34:57 PM

Quote from: boyz97 on November 16, 2018, 06:42:55 PM

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Quote from: okala on November 16, 2018, 02:09:21 PM

The forces of demands and supplies control the market! Cryptocoins market is not different from our traditional market and I believe that we can only become understandable if we treat it as such. This market cannot be controlled by a single person governments and organizations therefore we need to learn the rules of demand and supply and invest along with that.

I agree with this opinion. I just want to add that the cryptocurrency market is more speculative. A person who has on the stock exchange, for example, $1 million, can significantly affect the price of any cryptocurrency. In the stock market, amounts are needed much more

I also agree that the demand and supply control the market because everytime the demand increase the its price is also increases like what happen in Bitcoin and since Bitcoin supply is only limited its price become expensive. So if Bitcoin increase surely the other cryptocurrency is will be increase. Then you will be see the market is pumping.

bitcoin influence market sentiment and psychology.when it rise other coins rise too.investors confidence maybe at that time was the recovery time.and vice versa.

right. bitcoin can indeed be said to be the most influential coin to other coins. but i don't think anyone can control bitcoin. usually whales are only looking for a momentary advantage

Of course yes anyone can control the bitcoin . if you are a bitcoin user and you sell or buy btc , you are also moving the scale depending on the amount that you buy or sell .

If you are only a speculater , you can also make the price move by making a fud because some users do also tend to panic especially noobs .

Cryptos are really uncontrollable imo because they are decentralized not unlike to fiats and local currency that are centralized which means they are controlled by banks and governments .

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Quote from: boyz97 on November 16, 2018, 06:42:55 PM

Quote from: KesoNie on November 16, 2018, 04:54:30 PM

Quote from: alex_gr_cc on November 16, 2018, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: okala on November 16, 2018, 02:09:21 PM

The forces of demands and supplies control the market! Cryptocoins market is not different from our traditional market and I believe that we can only become understandable if we treat it as such. This market cannot be controlled by a single person governments and organizations therefore we need to learn the rules of demand and supply and invest along with that.

I agree with this opinion. I just want to add that the cryptocurrency market is more speculative. A person who has on the stock exchange, for example, $1 million, can significantly affect the price of any cryptocurrency. In the stock market, amounts are needed much more

I also agree that the demand and supply control the market because everytime the demand increase the its price is also increases like what happen in Bitcoin and since Bitcoin supply is only limited its price become expensive. So if Bitcoin increase surely the other cryptocurrency is will be increase. Then you will be see the market is pumping.

bitcoin influence market sentiment and psychology.when it rise other coins rise too.investors confidence maybe at that time was the recovery time.and vice versa.

right. bitcoin can indeed be said to be the most influential coin to other coins. but i don't think anyone can control bitcoin. usually whales are only looking for a momentary advantage

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Like the social stages. Letting the world transition to another stage requires a lot of factors, knowledge and community, as well as a certain amount of knowledge in society so society can move on to another stage. Cryptocurrency too and decentralized network, its future is still shaping up in the community.

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