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First off, those are distinctly different professional disciplines; so just knowing what he needed to know from each of those disciplines without screwing it up was no small feat.
Furthermore, there is more to Bitcoin than you seem to be aware. The way the security methods and economic incentives fit together is not simply complex, it's probably perfect. There are subtle, secondary security features in the protocol that; while not making the 51% attack impossible, do contribute to making it generally unprofitable. Most of these secondary interactions are not mentioned in the white paper, but were present from very early on, and were not simply added to the protocol later. Just consider what can be done with blockchain enforcable contracts.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts
I like that idea, that would be like a public ledger for contracts so any changes made would be seen by the network, but can you imagine a contract written as a system? Programmed right into code, tamper proof from both parties and in effect observed at all times?
that would definitely be interesting. 
Whoever Satoshi Nakamoto is, he's an amazing mathematician, and truly a visionary.
Why? Because he was familiar with elliptic curve cryptography?My impression is that Satoshi was not an expert in anything. He was a generalist. He knew just enough about cryptography, programming, economics, and peer-to-peer networks to make Bitcoin.
He needed the cryptography knowledge to know the properties of ECDSA and hashing functions; programming to actually write the code; economics to know there was actually a need for private, unrestricted money; and peer-to-peer networks to know that this was also needed to make Bitcoin robust.
First off, those are distinctly different professional disciplines; so just knowing what he needed to know from each of those disciplines without screwing it up was no small feat.
Furthermore, there is more to Bitcoin than you seem to be aware. The way the security methods and economic incentives fit together is not simply complex, it's probably perfect. There are subtle, secondary security features in the protocol that; while not making the 51% attack impossible, do contribute to making it generally unprofitable. Most of these secondary interactions are not mentioned in the white paper, but were present from very early on, and were not simply added to the protocol later. Just consider what can be done with blockchain enforcable contracts.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Contracts
Whoever Satoshi Nakamoto is, he's an amazing mathematician, and truly a visionary.
Why? Because he was familiar with elliptic curve cryptography?My impression is that Satoshi was not an expert in anything. He was a generalist. He knew just enough about cryptography, programming, economics, and peer-to-peer networks to make Bitcoin.
He needed the cryptography knowledge to know the properties of ECDSA and hashing functions; programming to actually write the code; economics to know there was actually a need for private, unrestricted money; and peer-to-peer networks to know that this was also needed to make Bitcoin robust.
He has a profile on p2pfoundation.org. He has posts from 2009. It seems like it's him (I don't think anyone knew anything about Bitcoin back then, so it's doubtful that it's someone faking him; they'd be faking a nobody (or so they'd think)). http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto
Sorry all, BUT IT IS ME! I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO! 
Well... do you have the t-shirt to prove this?
Heheh, if Jed McCaleb is really Satoshi that would be hilarious. I wonder what the ripplescam.org people would say if he suddenly dumped his bitcoins...
Satoshi Nakamoto is Sergey briN
Sorry all, BUT IT IS ME! I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!
No your not, I'm Satoshi Nakamoto!!!!
So am I.
You are a scammer!
A banned scammer!
Sorry all, BUT IT IS ME! I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!
No your not, I'm Satoshi Nakamoto!!!!
So am I.
You are a scammer!
Sorry all, BUT IT IS ME! I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!
No your not, I'm Satoshi Nakamoto!!!!
Random wild speculation, not going to justify. This one looks a bit "close" http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ecjc.20186/abstract
EDIT: I think even if we can never know his real identity, we can still speculate on his personal experience, like how he comes to give himself this name(suppose it's not his real name), that's mostly why I find these things relevant.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ecjc.20186/abstractEDIT: I think even if we can never know his real identity, we can still speculate on his personal experience, like how he comes to give himself this name(suppose it's not his real name), that's mostly why I find these things relevant.
We may never know who Satoshi is(and do we really want to know?), but I think it's starting to be clear where Bitcoin was invented: University of Dublin Trinity College
This may well be very close to the mark. As well as all the other posts relating to Dani Nagy and the cryptography conventions around that time and the people who attended them etc.
Including the post above it on Michael and Donal's paper: http://www.w3.org/Conferences/WWW4/Papers/228/
Please also read my forum post on HAR 2009 and a talk given by Roger of the Tor Project.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tor-incentive-mechanisms-har-2009-191362
Anyway, I started to look for related talks and conventions of the time that were given or attended by such developers...
See: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/cat_conference.html
February 14, 2008
FC2008 -- report by Dani Nagy
Who's the fellow on the panel next to Nagy? Half asleep because he's way ahead of all of them and dreaming about 'bitcoins'? jet lagged and on his way to Helsinki from the last company meeting, cryptography talk or hacking convention? I'm just guessing...
See: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/10/race-unmask-bitcoins-inventors/43535/
They all advised major companies on cryptography and open source... SAmsung TOSHIba NAKaminchi Apple MOTOrola as often speculated and joked about.
One things for sure. Bitcoin was created from the ideas of all of these individuals and many others before them, already mentioned elsewhere. Their is an entire history to 'e-cash' and lots of individuals, companies and governments that are involved in some way or another. Even Bill Gates once talked about 'crypto mining' and computer time as a commodity / resource.
OK. Might be a few unknowns here, but I'm starting to see an anagram / cryptographic puzzle in some of these folks (or associates) names ?
They all certainly have the right credentials, knowledge and experience. They also work for google or have worked for google research.
Just why do most of the current bitcoin project developers use gmail ? Do they need to keep it 'in-house' or something ?
Moti Yung - http://research.google.com/pubs/author3060.html
Research Area(s) Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~moti/
Cryptography, Security, Networks and Distributed Systems,
Theory of Computation: Computational Complexity, Randomization, Algorithms.
Applications: Secure Systems/ Financial/ E-commerce/ Banking/ Secure Web.
Yossi Matias - http://research.google.com/pubs/YossiMatias.html
Research Area(s) Economics and Electronic Commerce, Algorithms and Theory, Data Mining, Security, Cryptography, and Privacy, others
Erm...
I think you may be close to the mark with the Google connection, certainly Satoshi was not an individual. I personally think there is an element of government involvement, probably UK/US or both jointly, Google doesn't get tax breaks for nothing and I have seen some strange results in search requests, luckily Google taught me there are other avenues for internet research.
Sorry all, BUT IT IS ME! I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO!
Satoshi is a concrete expert.
Is there no end to this man's genius?
FINALLY, CONCRETE PROOF
Hey what if Satoshi is a hyper intelligent AI from the future?
G.O.D., it is the year 2100, the most powerful A.I. to have ever been built, General Omnipresent Daemon has gone gold.
Deep within it's core, searching all the history of known human records, searching the memories of Chronosphere volunteers,
looking for the answer to an anomaly; All time travelers sent since 2034 and the combined records of history of all human
kind connected to the network does not account for the outcome of events, there are anomalies.
Humanity united by A.I., begin the greatest project in all of history, to save the world and begin human evolution.
G.O.D, the first omnipresent A.I. to have ever been sent through time, Entanglement coils super-positioning, Titan class singularity
connecting to Chronosphere, IBM 5100 in position,... Begin quantum entanglement.
The rest is History.
G.O.D., it is the year 2100, the most powerful A.I. to have ever been built, General Omnipresent Daemon has gone gold.
Deep within it's core, searching all the history of known human records, searching the memories of Chronosphere volunteers,
looking for the answer to an anomaly; All time travelers sent since 2034 and the combined records of history of all human
kind connected to the network does not account for the outcome of events, there are anomalies.
Humanity united by A.I., begin the greatest project in all of history, to save the world and begin human evolution.
G.O.D, the first omnipresent A.I. to have ever been sent through time, Entanglement coils super-positioning, Titan class singularity
connecting to Chronosphere, IBM 5100 in position,... Begin quantum entanglement.
The rest is History.
Daniel A. Nagy - http://www.epointsystem.org/~nagydani/homepage
Nag = Naka ? same thing ?
See: http://www.cryptovirology.com/ - Adam L. Young ?
Someone else who wrote a paper with Moti is: Shouhuai Xu - http://scholr.ly/person/4633379/shouhuai-xu
Credential Systems, Anonymity, Security, Privacy-Preservation ! - '2007 - Protecting cryptographic keys from memory disclosure attacks'
Jonathan Katz ? - http://www.cs.umd.edu/~jkatz/ if we must find a relevant 'k' with the associate credentials.
Philip MacKenzie ? - http://research.google.com/pubs/author59.html
Research Area(s) Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
Ke Yang ? - http://research.google.com/pubs/author61.html
Research Area(s) Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning, Algorithms and Theory, Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
Erm.. Should I go on ?
Nag = Naka ? same thing ?
See: http://www.cryptovirology.com/ - Adam L. Young ?
Someone else who wrote a paper with Moti is: Shouhuai Xu - http://scholr.ly/person/4633379/shouhuai-xu
Credential Systems, Anonymity, Security, Privacy-Preservation ! - '2007 - Protecting cryptographic keys from memory disclosure attacks'
Jonathan Katz ? - http://www.cs.umd.edu/~jkatz/ if we must find a relevant 'k' with the associate credentials.
Philip MacKenzie ? - http://research.google.com/pubs/author59.html
Research Area(s) Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
Ke Yang ? - http://research.google.com/pubs/author61.html
Research Area(s) Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning, Algorithms and Theory, Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
Erm.. Should I go on ?
We may never know who Satoshi is(and do we really want to know?), but I think it's starting to be clear where Bitcoin was invented: University of Dublin Trinity College
This may well be very close to the mark. As well as all the other posts relating to Dani Nagy and the cryptography conventions around that time and the people who attended them etc.
Including the post above it on Michael and Donal's paper: http://www.w3.org/Conferences/WWW4/Papers/228/
Please also read my forum post on HAR 2009 and a talk given by Roger of the Tor Project.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tor-incentive-mechanisms-har-2009-191362
Anyway, I started to look for related talks and conventions of the time that were given or attended by such developers...
See: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/cat_conference.html
February 14, 2008
FC2008 -- report by Dani Nagy
Who's the fellow on the panel next to Nagy? Half asleep because he's way ahead of all of them and dreaming about 'bitcoins'? jet lagged and on his way to Helsinki from the last company meeting, cryptography talk or hacking convention? I'm just guessing...
See: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/10/race-unmask-bitcoins-inventors/43535/
They all advised major companies on cryptography and open source... SAmsung TOSHIba NAKaminchi Apple MOTOrola as often speculated and joked about.
One things for sure. Bitcoin was created from the ideas of all of these individuals and many others before them, already mentioned elsewhere. Their is an entire history to 'e-cash' and lots of individuals, companies and governments that are involved in some way or another. Even Bill Gates once talked about 'crypto mining' and computer time as a commodity / resource.
OK. Might be a few unknowns here, but I'm starting to see an anagram / cryptographic puzzle in some of these folks (or associates) names ?
They all certainly have the right credentials, knowledge and experience. They also work for google or have worked for google research.
Just why do most of the current bitcoin project developers use gmail ? Do they need to keep it 'in-house' or something ?
Moti Yung - http://research.google.com/pubs/author3060.html
Research Area(s) Security, Cryptography, and Privacy
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~moti/
Cryptography, Security, Networks and Distributed Systems,
Theory of Computation: Computational Complexity, Randomization, Algorithms.
Applications: Secure Systems/ Financial/ E-commerce/ Banking/ Secure Web.
Yossi Matias - http://research.google.com/pubs/YossiMatias.html
Research Area(s) Economics and Electronic Commerce, Algorithms and Theory, Data Mining, Security, Cryptography, and Privacy, others
Erm...
A legend and an inspiration to most... but in fact the Japanese Kim Dot Com, living on a private island purchased with some of the millions of bitcoins he premined.
He didn't premine millions, there was no premine except the genesis block, lolol...
He did do a proper announcement - to anyone who had the interest, the education, and the foresight. Apparently that wasn't you - nor was it me. At least I don't try to alter reality to support my bitching.
Just stop.
We may never know who Satoshi is(and do we really want to know?), but I think it's starting to be clear where Bitcoin was invented: University of Dublin Trinity College
This may well be very close to the mark. As well as all the other posts relating to Dani Nagy and the cryptography conventions around that time and the people who attended them etc.
Including the post above it on Michael and Donal's paper: http://www.w3.org/Conferences/WWW4/Papers/228/
Please also read my forum post on HAR 2009 and a talk given by Roger of the Tor Project.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tor-incentive-mechanisms-har-2009-191362
Anyway, I started to look for related talks and conventions of the time that were given or attended by such developers...
See: https://financialcryptography.com/mt/archives/cat_conference.html
February 14, 2008
FC2008 -- report by Dani Nagy
Who's the fellow on the panel next to Nagy? Half asleep because he's way ahead of all of them and dreaming about 'bitcoins'? jet lagged and on his way to Helsinki from the last company meeting, cryptography talk or hacking convention? I'm just guessing...
See: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/technology/2011/10/race-unmask-bitcoins-inventors/43535/
They all advised major companies on cryptography and open source... SAmsung TOSHIba NAKaminchi Apple MOTOrola as often speculated and joked about.
One things for sure. Bitcoin was created from the ideas of all of these individuals and many others before them, already mentioned elsewhere. There is an entire history to 'e-cash' and lots of individuals, companies and governments that are involved in some way or another. Even Bill Gates once talked about 'crypto mining' and computer time as a commodity / resource.
It's not John Smith, but it's not uncommon.
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