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December 07, 2013, 11:46:14 PM
Satoshi is from the UK and I think I know where he lives, here are the reasons why:

The first American settlers stuck two fingers up at the British establishment by removing silent letters from perfectly good words. So I still have to keep changing the default spell check language in Word from American English to British English. Microsoft have no incentive for fixing this problem, so it's something you have to get used to doing every now and then.

That's what got me thinking about Satoshi's country of origin. His/Her/Their 2009 paper uses the word 'favour' and not 'fovor'.

The original p2p network, now the internet, well that was Sir Tim Berners Lee, another Brit. So p2p at the game changing level is something of a national sport.

But then there are the actors in the software scenario testing and development - Alice and Bob. Typical British names, but we are still light years away from a smoking gun. But who in Japan uses Alice and Bob when trying to figure out the bad actors out there and how they might try and attack Bitcoin code? That strikes a blow for Japan being the mother of bitcoin invention.

Then there is the first IP address used to send a bitcoin transaction. Yes BTC was first seen as involving the movement of value over IP.

Alice was sent 9.95 of something at 11.45pm on 3 January 2009 (American's use January 3, 2009, so not a Yank) by Bob for order #12345. Her IP address started with 192.168........ I could tell you the rest, but then I would have to kill you. It seems that this early use IP address is still in use somewhere in England (i.e. Not Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), but this time by a little chap who likes gaming and has created a server for his friends with this address.

Now the IP address could indeed be random. But if you are alpha testing, you might want to check that transactions are working, so would you use a random address, in a system originally designed to use IP addresses as well as block codes? Was the advent of anonymity a later step in the original development process?

Or, did Satoshi have a little kid who is now a teenage gaming geek? Maybe, the property with this IP address is owned by a different family.

Either way, my bet is that Satoshi is English, as many others have pointed out based on times of posts and use of grammar.

This would indeed make sense, all the great inventors are from the UK (let the abuse begin Grin), its something to do with the water.

As a network engineer, I can tell you that the 192.168.x.x range will be black-holed by any decent provider. This because it is specified to be the subnet to use for lan's.
Interesting. That IP address wouldn't be 192.168.0.1 per chance?  Because that is the default internal address mask number for almost every wifi router in the world, and just means that Satoshi was testing out the Send-to-IP function on an internal network, or even within his own GNU/Linux machine. 
This is the only reasonable explanation I have for it too.

Loved the rest of the story though!
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December 07, 2013, 11:22:00 PM
Some people think he/she/them is actually affiliated to a government whose interest lies in creating a means to strike against existing fiat currency domination conditions.

This could mean that PRC government and many other emerging economies would be interested, but it could also be a honey trap against those with motivations to do so.

Cryptocurrency and its derivatives are out of the bag now. First nation state to claim the lion's share in its control will benefit handsomely, just as those who took the lion's share in taming and keeping tabs on good part of the internet has profited from that venture.

So this satoshi moniker doesn't have to be a person - a group is more likely. All those hints pointing towards UK origin sounds very easy to fake for anyone with a drop of motivation in concealing their identity.

Interesting reading here on this thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-bitcoin-conspiracies-thread-361215
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December 07, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Satoshi is from the UK and I think I know where he lives, here are the reasons why:

The first American settlers stuck two fingers up at the British establishment by removing silent letters from perfectly good words. So I still have to keep changing the default spell check language in Word from American English to British English. Microsoft have no incentive for fixing this problem, so it's something you have to get used to doing every now and then.

That's what got me thinking about Satoshi's country of origin. His/Her/Their 2009 paper uses the word 'favour' and not 'fovor'.

The original p2p network, now the internet, well that was Sir Tim Berners Lee, another Brit. So p2p at the game changing level is something of a national sport.

But then there are the actors in the software scenario testing and development - Alice and Bob. Typical British names, but we are still light years away from a smoking gun. But who in Japan uses Alice and Bob when trying to figure out the bad actors out there and how they might try and attack Bitcoin code? That strikes a blow for Japan being the mother of bitcoin invention.

Then there is the first IP address used to send a bitcoin transaction. Yes BTC was first seen as involving the movement of value over IP.

Alice was sent 9.95 of something at 11.45pm on 3 January 2009 (American's use January 3, 2009, so not a Yank) by Bob for order #12345. Her IP address started with 192.168........ I could tell you the rest, but then I would have to kill you. It seems that this early use IP address is still in use somewhere in England (i.e. Not Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), but this time by a little chap who likes gaming and has created a server for his friends with this address.

Now the IP address could indeed be random. But if you are alpha testing, you might want to check that transactions are working, so would you use a random address, in a system originally designed to use IP addresses as well as block codes? Was the advent of anonymity a later step in the original development process?

Or, did Satoshi have a little kid who is now a teenage gaming geek? Maybe, the property with this IP address is owned by a different family.

Either way, my bet is that Satoshi is English, as many others have pointed out based on times of posts and use of grammar.

This would indeed make sense, all the great inventors are from the UK (let the abuse begin Grin), its something to do with the water.


Interesting. That IP address wouldn't be 192.168.0.1 per chance?  Because that is the default internal address mask number for almost every wifi router in the world, and just means that Satoshi was testing out the Send-to-IP function on an internal network, or even within his own GNU/Linux machine. 
legendary
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December 07, 2013, 08:20:33 PM
Satoshi is from the UK and I think I know where he lives, here are the reasons why:

The first American settlers stuck two fingers up at the British establishment by removing silent letters from perfectly good words. So I still have to keep changing the default spell check language in Word from American English to British English. Microsoft have no incentive for fixing this problem, so it's something you have to get used to doing every now and then.

That's what got me thinking about Satoshi's country of origin. His/Her/Their 2009 paper uses the word 'favour' and not 'fovor'.

The original p2p network, now the internet, well that was Sir Tim Berners Lee, another Brit. So p2p at the game changing level is something of a national sport.

But then there are the actors in the software scenario testing and development - Alice and Bob. Typical British names, but we are still light years away from a smoking gun. But who in Japan uses Alice and Bob when trying to figure out the bad actors out there and how they might try and attack Bitcoin code? That strikes a blow for Japan being the mother of bitcoin invention.

Then there is the first IP address used to send a bitcoin transaction. Yes BTC was first seen as involving the movement of value over IP.

Alice was sent 9.95 of something at 11.45pm on 3 January 2009 (American's use January 3, 2009, so not a Yank) by Bob for order #12345. Her IP address started with 192.168........ I could tell you the rest, but then I would have to kill you. It seems that this early use IP address is still in use somewhere in England (i.e. Not Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland), but this time by a little chap who likes gaming and has created a server for his friends with this address.

Now the IP address could indeed be random. But if you are alpha testing, you might want to check that transactions are working, so would you use a random address, in a system originally designed to use IP addresses as well as block codes? Was the advent of anonymity a later step in the original development process?

Or, did Satoshi have a little kid who is now a teenage gaming geek? Maybe, the property with this IP address is owned by a different family.

Either way, my bet is that Satoshi is English, as many others have pointed out based on times of posts and use of grammar.

This would indeed make sense, all the great inventors are from the UK (let the abuse begin Grin), its something to do with the water.
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Giga
December 07, 2013, 06:41:57 PM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him

Yep, the guy who created "Magic: The Gathering Online Exchange" clearly is the same man who created one of the most original and fresh takes on economic theory in 100+ years.

didn't the founder of gox also create an innovative peer2peer platform edonkey2k ? i believe his work with p2p tech is what made most suspect he is indeed satoshi along with multiple other coincidences.
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December 07, 2013, 04:53:53 PM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him

Yep, the guy who created "Magic: The Gathering Online Exchange" clearly is the same man who created one of the most original and fresh takes on economic theory in 100+ years.
Yup, and he created a trading engine that could only do 7 trades a second after creating bitcoin Cheesy

He put all of his bitcoins into Mt Gox, and his account got GOXXXED, and now he has nothing.

Satoshi is broke.  Long live Satoshi.
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December 07, 2013, 06:07:22 AM
I think Nick Szabo (creator of bit gold, a Bitcoin precursor) is the most likely candidate, possibly with one or more collaborators.

The letters make sense

Absolutely, never noticed the correlation before!
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December 07, 2013, 05:21:09 AM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him

Yep, the guy who created "Magic: The Gathering Online Exchange" clearly is the same man who created one of the most original and fresh takes on economic theory in 100+ years.
Yup, and he created a trading engine that could only do 7 trades a second after creating bitcoin Cheesy
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December 07, 2013, 04:03:20 AM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him

Yep, the guy who created "Magic: The Gathering Online Exchange" clearly is the same man who created one of the most original and fresh takes on economic theory in 100+ years.
legendary
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December 07, 2013, 02:40:00 AM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him

You, literally, have no idea of what you speak.
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December 07, 2013, 02:19:26 AM
Go to mtgox and you will find Nakamoto.

The top bitcoin exchanger is in Japan and a japanese man created bitcoin

Go there and you will find him
legendary
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December 07, 2013, 01:25:42 AM
I think Nick Szabo (creator of bit gold, a Bitcoin precursor) is the most likely candidate, possibly with one or more collaborators.

The letters make sense
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1.21 GIGA WATTS
December 06, 2013, 03:21:52 PM
every one know Mt.Gox started bitcoin.  Tongue

hey they own the 'Bitcoin' trade mark, this proves it doesn't it.   Roll Eyes

 Grin Grin Grin
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December 06, 2013, 03:04:29 PM
I am pretty sure that Satoshi is at least not Japanese, I mean would he not have published Bitcoin in Japan first if he really was Japanese? No, as far as I know, he only ever spoke English.

But why did he choose a Japanese name? Is he a fan of the language or is his name itself another puzzle?

Anyway, I'm really curious if or when we are gonna see the first coins being moved.
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December 06, 2013, 01:49:45 PM
I think Nick Szabo (creator of bit gold, a Bitcoin precursor) is the most likely candidate, possibly with one or more collaborators.
legendary
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December 06, 2013, 12:48:24 PM
I know I really shouldn't be doing this, but....

http://iang.org/papers/fc7.html

I wonder if anyone has bothered to ask Ian Grigg if he is, or has knowledge of, Satoshi Nakamoto.  It seems obvious to me that Satoshi must have read his works, at a minimum.

did Satoshi cite him in the whitepaper? is it plagiarism to reuse your own thoughts in a later work? some argue yes Smiley

Plagiarism is an impossibility in a libertarian worldview.  It might be polite to cite this paper, but it's not a crime to fail to do so.
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December 06, 2013, 12:29:24 PM
I know I really shouldn't be doing this, but....

http://iang.org/papers/fc7.html

I wonder if anyone has bothered to ask Ian Grigg if he is, or has knowledge of, Satoshi Nakamoto.  It seems obvious to me that Satoshi must have read his works, at a minimum.

did Satoshi cite him in the whitepaper? is it plagiarism to reuse your own thoughts in a later work? some argue yes Smiley
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December 06, 2013, 10:16:21 AM
Are we any closer towards establishing the identity of Satoshi-san?

Using the process of elimination, which of these is100% out?

  • 1. Gavin Andresen

I'm certain it's not Gavin.  I was here when they were both still active, and the possibility that the were the same individual was brought up and investigated then, but they had notablely differnet English writing styles, and differnet coding styles.  While such a thing can be faked to a degree with concious effort, it's provablely true that Gavin was quite busy doing other things in life while Satoshi was busy building Bitcoin early.

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  • 6. Government


Which government?
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December 06, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
I know I really shouldn't be doing this, but....

http://iang.org/papers/fc7.html

I wonder if anyone has bothered to ask Ian Grigg if he is, or has knowledge of, Satoshi Nakamoto.  It seems obvious to me that Satoshi must have read his works, at a minimum.
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December 04, 2013, 10:47:40 PM
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