Topic: "Who is Satoshi?" Should we put an end to this discussion? - page 2. (Read 751 times)

Satoshi Nakamoto probably  planned all of this, he knew that his creation will be huge since this is a unique concept and can disrupt the banking system, he knew that he stumble something that will be against the present system, he is using a tor whenever he login here do not have a social media account, and he limits his interaction.

We really like to know who Nakamoto is, all inventions and creations have a personality behind it and it's very unusual for a popular and revolutionary creation where the creator is nowhere to be found, but we should respect his wishes he wants a private life and we should just be thankful that he creates Bitcoin and blockchain.
 

I think we will never find out answer to this question.
Given the fact that people are naturally curious and want to know everything, Bitcoin users will always ask themselves this question and this discussion will never end

A loud and clear YES from me! I cannot see the whole point on this Satoshi Nakamoto identity uncovering mission. Perhaps there really is no point on this. We have Bitcoin on our hands already, plus a core team that is sort of making sure that the operation is kept at its best form and running forward smoothly. What else could we ask for? The rest of the responsibilities, say to promote wider adoption, are left on us, the community of Bitcoin supporters. 

If the mission to uncover the person behind the name is simply out of pure curiosity or the want to raise some questions directly to himself, I don't think it is worth it. Satoshi is better off left a mystery.

Hal Finney, end of discussion.

if you try to trace the name that send information to journalist by wiki leaks you will get no where and there only clues

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really with dont need more then this clues mate,

Don't expect them or any underground team to say clearly with did Bitcoin we also cicada and everything come from wiki leaks, if it was like this they for sure didn't was behind this projects.

But the facts out there and deep research need to be done, and it's the most realistic rather then fiction and life sometime stranger then fiction.

Wiki leaks it's the biggest operation that was in history in leaking information even agents go to see what new over there,.

Ok ....cicada the biggest operation that was in searching very smart people focus on cryptography and hiding information,

cicada 3301 have the same vision as wiki leaks and also talked about cash in leaked emails from winners in 2012.

Between them you have the biggest stratup/operation done in the finical area.

It's true some people from wiki leaks said that peer to peer file sharing can bring finical freedom.

Wiki leaks work heavily with peer to peer and cryptography.

It's all tied together whether you want it or not and realistic* compare to all the shit out there, the vision behind them is the same, satoshi in the papers say the same what wiki leaks and cicada say in different words and they all work with the same technology -- peer to peer and cryptography

Wiki leaks projects when they send information to journalist is always under one name.

From here you don't need more information it's all tied together , and realistic.

at last to know this more deep then this dont try to get...

but still inspire to know all this

I think we'll never know who he is.

And we have had quite a number of attention seekers claiming to be satoshi, but none has come forward with sufficient prove to back up their claims.

I actually doubt if there are still active research on satoshi's identity, it's now obvious that the network can work fairly superb without him/her/they.
We just have to make good use of this network and ought to be glad satoshi made all this possible.

I think the most important part of Antonopoulos' words is the following:

"Euclidean geometry works whether I know who Euclid was or not. Whether Euclid was a moral and good person or whether he was a corrupt plutocrat and a bastard."

Although, there is, indeed, a good possibility of finding out who Satoshi is, this information is irrelevant regarding the future of Bitcoin.

Let me explain my point with an example. If a big luxury hotel was built by company X, and later it becomes known that this company consisted of terrorists, it is very important because there can be a bomb somewhere inside the hotel. But we all know that there is no bomb in Bitcoin source code, and that's why it doesn't matter who created it.

Of course, I will be forever grateful to the Satoshi who wrote the Bitcoin white paper, But I also know that people change, and thus, even if someone proves that it was him, it is not necessary to obey the new version of Satoshi, 10 years later.

The protocol stands on its own. I hope he's never identified. Otherwise Bitcoin might have its own Vitalik Buterin.


That seems like a misinterpretation. Bitcoin was intended to be a trustless medium of exchange yes, but that doesn't mean it wasn't intended to be traded for fiat. This is from Satoshi's early writings on the forum:

Betwrong

sorry to say I not him and somebody else here said that meadhead account also connected to me, someone just directed me to his posts about wiki leaks and cicada 3301 and I know this kind of forums is full of crap information and non sense.
so I checked his history just to get the idea who behind the account and what weird he disappeared because he was very active?, and I was amazed from the information he provided, he also love to help and bring light.

what really weird he and few other almost in the same time said that xrp is going to crash while xrp was 0.44 and slowly go up to 0.50-60, what shooked me they was right xrp crashed very hard and they probably did huge chunk of money if they was short.

not only bitcoinqubit also few others said this several times that xrp going to crash hard,

bitcoinqubit said it several times in this manner, watch the huge curve taking down xrp and few times while everybody in their non sense and the crap is going here, check his history you will find it.

and who make deep research get to simple facts that wiki leaks,cicada 3301,bitcoin they all connected to each other.

few emails that was leaked about cicada 3301 by winners from 2012 clealry show the connection, as cicada speak about cash and privacy and freedom, do the research yourself and see.

and i very rarely support any one in this industry because most of them scams include here or rather selfish which very bad from economical point of view.

wiki leaks few time said they going to make huge operation to find new people to join them.
they also mention that visa and paypal and other big companies ban them which mean bitcoin solve all their problems.

for some its the same if it one person or team, but some want to know the source.

No way that we can finish this discussion because people will always be courious about it and ask this question over and over again.
We will always come to the same conclusion, we don't know who is Satoshi and wll never find out unless Satoshi decides to reveal his identity, what will never happen in my opinion.
Satoshi cares about his privacy very well.

You can't compare Satoshi with Euclid. The later lived and died thousands of years ago, and now it is impossible to find more information about him. But the case with Satoshi Nakamoto is different. There is a good possibility that the individual (or a group of individuals) who is known to us as Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive. Therefore it is possible to find his real identity.

I think we will, We may never find out who they are, but I think they will and are still active in the development or will be in a future coin again similar to bitcoin.  I think they will become active on this forum again, but will never know the identity of them until we live their blockchain in the timeless realm. We will just know they are alive. Anyways, that is what matters to me although I really would love to meet and talk to them in person and thank them for their service in person, just knowing they are alive would be cool. I don`t even care if it is the nsa, fb`s zuck or whatever and I am probably the biggest anti current goverment and anti current establishment and anti current banking system, person you will see. I still would be able to look past even if JP MORGAN and the Rockefeller`s and the FED created it.  I don`t think other countries would though. I mean it probably is the USA goverment let`s be real, they can find a guy hiding in a cave, they can find a person on the Internet. Even if they did vpn I don`t think they would stand a chance by NSA. Unless they are living in the middle east wearing a full burka hiding in a cave, inside of another cave with no internet or computer around lol come on now.

A discussion is considered "ended" or not only if you want or don't want to participate in it.
If you don't want to participate in the "Who is Satoshi?" discussion,just  ignore it.We can't stop it just like that.Hundreds of newbies are entering the bitcoin world everyday and they continue to ask the same question."Who is Satoshi?"
For me,it's pretty clear that we will never find out...

This coin has been created already, and it's name is Bitcoin. That's what Andreas M. Antonopoulos is talking about in the text I quoted in the OP. No elite can control Bitcoin blockchain because it is under control of the greatest power on Earth, which is mathematics.


Have you just created an account to support another one of yours. That's funny.

I almost stay away from any type forums the reason because to much bullshit, I am expert in blockchain, cryptography and great coder.

Someone directed me to this post and I know how much non sense posts and information on this forum , and was thinking the same about your post without even checking ,

I did very deep research about all this stuff and you was right, all the siginals lead to wiki leaks.

And yes the NSA was working on something similar in 1996,

From the moment I saw this link I know there is something in your post because no body ever posted here this type of info.

cicada 3301 and exposed few emails from winners,  - not shit youtuber and d0ne very professionally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Pr89bZo9M&t=1544s

14:29 - 16:10 min -- leaked email from winner 2012 which say they are international team around the globe. also -- said liberty ,privacy,security, cash.

and we will happy to be with us for future project.


said liberty ,privacy,security, cash**--

wiki leaks also mention few times they need huge cash flow to keep this giant project and other projects which come and wiki leaks its the biggest project in the entire history ,


not only this all of the people that talk about that peer to peer and cryptgraphy tech will make finical freedom as i put few of them the other i dont expose as smart people know how to get to this people, they hinted about it and also about cicada 3301 as they searched to find new people around the world to join them.

all this forum and no body find this simple link yet they all day long out put the non sense and crap inside their head....simple link
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.

you so fucking uneducated its unbelievable
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search on the web

Wikileaks, Peer-to-Peer and cryptography, and the literary underground : Can the freedom of speech be absolute?
by -- Takushi OTANI really was way before bitcoin come**
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someone else said this try to trace who behind this statement:

WikiLeaks is a website that publishes secret documents revealing the misconduct of governments and corporations. In its first year, WikiLeaks published more than 1.2 million secret documents. These documents revealed classified information about countries and corporations around the globe, spilling sensitive secrets about major conflicts and human rights abuses.

state-of-the-art encryption(cryptography), peer-to-peer file sharing, and the internet itself – is what makes it possible for WikiLeaks to release millions of secret documents at once.
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How cryptography and peer to peer tech is a key weapon in the fight against empire states -- Julian Assange said this.
said before bitcoin come to the world
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shitty people always try to steal great projects until smart people debunk their fake shit ass..
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its not about if it dosent matter or not,

at last if people interesting what goes on the web and what the root cause for something on the web they need put the right info rather then create fictions and silly post and other shit.

there are tons out there projects that done on th web which all of them under one name...

just know wiki leaks works in this manner -- under one name which lead no where

and a lot of people that behind wiki leaks hinted about bitcoin tech is coming they also hinted about cicada 3301,

the problem is the people is far away from be educated to trace simple things here its more medium stuff ,

and when you trace it right its interesting ...

for example ALL THIS FORUM AND NO BODY CAN FIND THIS LLINK
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Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.

For me, it doesn't really matter who satoshi is as long as he never comes back. He/she/they could be anyone, literally, and if they decide to come back without us knowing that they were some super shady, nefarious beings then I guess it's game over. Personally, as long as the protocol works perfectly and the visions of Satoshi is fulfilled, we can let them be and just continue with what we're doing while we're at it and improve the system if there needs something to be improved. But of course, we should always recognize what he/she/they did, and we can do that without constantly asking their real identity is because that's their right after all.

also some of the minds of wiki leaks not only mention and hint about bitcoin which is not new tech and mix of tech that already exist , they also hint about operation like cicada 3301

Not to mention the paper that closely resembles an outline of Bitcoin having been written up in 1996 by the NSA. https://archive.org/details/CryptographyOfAnonymousElectronicCash

IN ICO phase one of the recommendations was to make sure the team was well known before buying, as an anonymous team would indicate suspicion. Yet somehow Satoshi team escaped this suspicion even though nobody knows who they are.