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legendary
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June 26, 2018, 03:18:51 AM
Just want to thank everyone in this thread for being so diligent about finding info. Just a heads up I think Satoshi should be removed from the list (or at least add an asterisk)  as if VJ was known to be a large seed dealer then it wouldn't have been Satoshi since Satoshi already had tons of coins and no need to work for any like this, that and it seems to risky for him.

I would like to second this. I know we all enjoy a bit of drama and story to the not much talked about early histories of some Bitcoin users, but I think it's really high time we removed Satoshi from these types of associations. Satoshi clearly did not want to prevent anyone or censor use, but he was never a part of this type of deals.

In some ways, these guys contributed to Bitcoin being used as a currency but we could have done without them. All tools, no matter how useful, can be used for all means. This is just an example of that.
AGD
legendary
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June 26, 2018, 03:14:10 AM
If i remember the planetganja saga correctly, he started sending the emails after he slipped local cops. It's been a minute, but i remember tuning in for that thread.

From his first posting:
https://myplanetganja.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11022

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So I've got this trip planned, to the Big Apple. Golly gee and shucks, I shure am looking forward to seeing the big city 'n stuff. I'm not sure exactly where I'm gonna be staying when I get there, but I'm pretty sure it's going to be one of them 'state of the art' facilities, if you know what I mean.
sr. member
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June 25, 2018, 07:15:28 PM
If i remember the planetganja saga correctly, he started sending the emails after he slipped local cops. It's been a minute, but i remember tuning in for that thread.
AGD
legendary
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June 25, 2018, 02:22:19 AM
He was fighting extradition, so presumably he did not want to end up in the US court system. 

Maybe there was another reason to delay the extradition, but he knew that he'd be ending up in NY.
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June 25, 2018, 01:53:10 AM
He was fighting extradition, so presumably he did not want to end up in the US court system. 
AGD
legendary
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June 25, 2018, 01:31:11 AM
Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.
He certainly is not.
Are you saying he would rather stay in a Thai prison?  I bet not. 
Being in prison in Thailand means he potentially will get out of prison in the somewhat near future. Being extradited to the US means he will likely spend the rest of his life in prison.

I am not familiar with the conditions of Thailand prison, however there are other considerations that he will take into account.

The reason why he is in jail, is because he insisted on beeing jailed. No one, but a few nerds were looking for him before he went public with his 'come and get me' game.

https://myplanetganja.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11022&start=120

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Subject: Re: Indictment and extradition
Date: 27 May 2015 16:21
From: "Scott Hoff
To: [email protected]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA256

27 May 2015

Serrin Turner
Assistant United States Attorney
U.S. Attorney's Office
Southern District of New York
1 St. Andrew's Plaza
New York, New York 10007
U.S.A.

by email: [email protected]


Sir,

Mr. Turner, I am disappoint.

It has been over two weeks, and I have yet to receive a response to my previous email to you.

I am loath to communicate details concerning the rogue FBI character Diamond over insecure unencrypted email, as it has been made clear to me that my life would be in danger if I had any dealings with the U.S. justice system in any form.

Diamond has previously shown to have inside knowledge that would have only been available to someone with insider knowledge. On or about 30 October 2014 I was informed that nob/Force along with another player had abused their positions to steal over US$1.5 million. That later proved to be accurate.

On or about 7 March 2015 I was informed that a major 'Dark Net Market' would be closing within the next two weeks, as a result of the successful extortion of over US$6 million from the operators of the site by Diamond. Less than two weeks later Evolution market was gone. Diamond claims that total earnings from extorting similar sites is in excess of US$10 million.

Naturally I have been unable to determine whether or not Diamonds claim that there is a sealed indictement for me is accurate. I have been able to confirm that Cambodian and Thai border agents / Immigration Police have my picture and information, along with orders to detain me if I attempt a crossing or exit. There is also a cash incentive reward for information leading to my location and aprehension.

The scheme which Diamond is attempting to involve me in will yield over an order of magnitude more return than the Evolution extortion, some US$70 million+ in total.

Under the circumstances, I'm very concerned about falling into the clutches of Diamond, or subjecting myself to custody of the U.S. justice system, where considering the money involved, I would be in fear for my life.

I contacted you as it is obvious that Diamond has information that is closely related to investigations that your office is involved in. It occurs to me that your office may in fact believe that you are au fait with the situation vis-Ã -vis Diamond, inasmuch as this may all be the result of a sanctioned investigative process. If that is the case, may I suggest that it has run off the rails quite some time ago.

I intend to uncover the identity of Diamond; I have a pretty good idea how to go about that, and if you and/or your office are unable or unwilling to assist, perhaps you could pass my information on to someone who can.

Sincerely,

Mr. Clark
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June 25, 2018, 12:29:51 AM
Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.
He certainly is not.
Are you saying he would rather stay in a Thai prison?  I bet not. 
Being in prison in Thailand means he potentially will get out of prison in the somewhat near future. Being extradited to the US means he will likely spend the rest of his life in prison.

I am not familiar with the conditions of Thailand prison, however there are other considerations that he will take into account.
newbie
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June 24, 2018, 11:46:52 PM
Just want to thank everyone in this thread for being so diligent about finding info. Just a heads up I think Satoshi should be removed from the list (or at least add an asterisk)  as if VJ was known to be a large seed dealer then it wouldn't have been Satoshi since Satoshi already had tons of coins and no need to work for any like this, that and it seems to risky for him.
legendary
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June 21, 2018, 07:48:26 AM
Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.
He certainly is not.
Are you saying he would rather stay in a Thai prison?  I bet not.  Have you ever been to a Thai prison?  Have you seen a grown man naked?

It is still not clear if not very doubtful that Thomas Clark (Plural of Mongoose) was Variety Jones at Silk Road. If they can prove that he was he will probably be in the same situation as Ross Ulbricht (double life)
He deserves double life.  So does Ross.  

There are so many interesting and cool things to do with blockchain.  Why promote murder, drugs and fraud?  Variety Jones and all others harming blockchain with their illicit schemes should be removed from society.  Thank God we have the US government to protect the blockchain and to take the evil away from it.  I feel safer already.
AGD
legendary
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June 21, 2018, 06:47:51 AM
Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.

He certainly is not.


Hi Oz. Nice to see you here.
newbie
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June 21, 2018, 03:06:53 AM
Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.

He certainly is not.
AGD
legendary
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June 20, 2018, 10:43:30 AM
He also helped me get my head straight regarding legal protection
Hahahaha.  How'd that work out for you?  Did your protection stand up OK?


Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.

This came from Ross Ulbrichts journal he wrote (because he was not very smart)

It is still not clear if not very doubtful that Thomas Clark (Plural of Mongoose) was Variety Jones at Silk Road. If they can prove that he was he will probably be in the same situation as Ross Ulbricht (double life)
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
June 20, 2018, 10:38:20 AM
I do not know who is Variety Jones?
But after I find out Variety Jones is a grass seed dealer at SR and Variety Jones sells dubious products of origin.

Try my first posting https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10255248
legendary
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June 20, 2018, 10:30:19 AM
He also helped me get my head straight regarding legal protection
Hahahaha.  How'd that work out for you?  Did your protection stand up OK?


Variety Jones is probably one of the first guys to be very happy to be going to a US jail.  He just got out of a long visit to a Thai jail.  Now he has reasonable food, protection, med care, clothes, cleanliness.  He is fucking stoked!  Very good upgrade for him.
newbie
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June 20, 2018, 10:11:27 AM
I do not know who is Variety Jones?
But after I find out Variety Jones is a grass seed dealer at SR and Variety Jones sells dubious products of origin.
AGD
legendary
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Keeper of the Private Key
June 20, 2018, 09:53:55 AM
Meanwhile he has been extradited to US.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/06/ross-ulbrichts-alleged-confidante-variety-jones-extradited-to-us/

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4516867-Clark-20-Extradition-20-Pr.html

edit:

https://www.law360.com/cybersecurity-privacy/articles/1055056/-silk-road-laptop-said-to-have-dirt-on-alleged-sidekick

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A Canadian man on Tuesday denied helping incarcerated Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht run his infamous web bazaar for illegal drugs, and a prosecutor told the Manhattan federal judge overseeing the case that the government will use chats from Ulbricht's seized laptop in its effort to convict his alleged right-hand man.

U.S. District Judge William H. Pauley III accepted a not guilty plea from Roger Thomas Clark, 56, who was extradited to New York on Friday after being in custody in Thailand  since December 2015.
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December 29, 2017, 02:54:26 PM
I'm still trying to decide whether I'd prefer life in a Thai jail or a US prison. I hope he's more comfortable than I imagine.

He seems to be convinced that he'd be murdered in the USA.

Thailand seems like a MUCH more likely place to get killed in...  http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/after-alleged-alphabay-kingpin-found-dead-in-thai-jail-authorities-announce-huge-dark-web-takedown/news-story/cac0cfa628027cf414dc602bd2b3ec33
The only reason he is in jail in Thailand is because the US is trying to extradite him to the US. If he can successfully fight extradition, he will be released from jail in Thailand. If he does get extradited, he will face trial in the US, and potentially have to stay in prison for a very long time.   
AGD
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 07:32:54 AM
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I was actually just jerking your chain because I know how gay you are for the FEDS Tongue.
...

Mind explaining this to a stranger?
legendary
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December 29, 2017, 06:53:05 AM
I'm still trying to decide whether I'd prefer life in a Thai jail or a US prison. I hope he's more comfortable than I imagine.

He seems to be convinced that he'd be murdered in the USA.

Thailand seems like a MUCH more likely place to get killed in...  http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/after-alleged-alphabay-kingpin-found-dead-in-thai-jail-authorities-announce-huge-dark-web-takedown/news-story/cac0cfa628027cf414dc602bd2b3ec33

It's a rock and a hard place then.
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